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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Friday, August 16, 2013 9:57 PM

howmus

Ahhh..... Jake?  I hate to tell you this, but there ain't no college in Hammondsport, NY!  Is she going to Keuka?  If so she will be outside of Penn Yan, NY and near Branchport. (on Keuka Lake)

I live about about 20 miles away from Keuka College.  If you should get up there, I would be happy to give you a tour of the SLOW RR sometime....

73

Thanks for the correction, meant nearby Hammondsport.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, August 16, 2013 10:01 PM

Time for me to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.



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Posted by JimRCGMO on Friday, August 16, 2013 10:31 PM

Good Evening, Chloe - I'll just have a RBF for dessert, please. Thanks!

Ulrich, good to see you having a little time away from the campaign trail. Hadn't seen you in here (but then again, neither have I been very regular about showing up) for a while, and was beginning to get a bit worried. Thumbs Up

Chris - check your email; had an idea or two for your "Sliced Bread Tutorial" course. Smile, Wink & Grin

Jeffrey, sounds like your determination and attitude have NOT been slowed down a bit! BowThumbs Up Nice photo of the (older) layout, also.

Excellent story on the TV news tonight, about a 97 year old woman who refused to cooperate with a couple of teens who came into her grocery/candy store and tried to rob her. She just offered them some Tootsie Rolls instead (and told them to get out)! Laugh Police caught the teens - a 13 year old who was talked into being stupid by an (even more stupid) 17 year old teen.

W**k has been, um... interesting lately. Whistling Really making me wonder about what else might be out there. Sigh Have two co-w**kers leaving on the 30th, two new people  (sort of) being trained to replace them, and me assigned part of the time to another (more educational type) program (which isn't as clearly defined as I would like). Those of you who are of a Angeling persuasion, please put me and w**k on your list.

Tomorrow I will get together for lunch with my buddy Mark again. Need to email him what time I'll be by to pick him up, and which place we'll visit for lunch.

I need to get more efficient with my time. Too much slippage in my wheels - need more sand in my loco, perhaps...

Blessings and prayers,

Jim in Cape G.

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Friday, August 16, 2013 11:08 PM

Gooooooooood Evening. I didn't catch where we are this month so hoping the grill was packed along and open for business, Rerun and I could use a plate of bacon double cheeseburgers right about now.

JIM in CAPE G: Right back atcha Pally! 

Not much going on today in Clarence, Iowa...finally fingered-out how to write up a profile piece on THAT new football coach along with a preseason preview. THAT Editor should be clucking like a happy little hen...it's over 1,000 words, which along with some pics of the coach w**king with the kids, should fill some space pretty easily for her on Monday (layout day). 

In-between bouts of writer's block, I made some more progress on Elevator G...maybe I'll sully everybody's Saturday with some pics of THAT and the IC/ICG/CCP turntable project as they stand at the moment.

Have a good night everybody and a better tomorrow.

Chris (in Iowa)  

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:39 AM

howmus

Ahhh..... Jake?  I hate to tell you this, but there ain't no college in Hammondsport, NY!  Is she going to Keuka?  If so she will be outside of Penn Yan, NY and near Branchport. (on Keuka Lake)

I live about about 20 miles away from Keuka College.  If you should get up there, I would be happy to give you a tour of the SLOW RR sometime....

73

Perhaps he means Alfred State University? That would be closer I think. Had A GF who went there once...

Geeked

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:51 AM

morning coffee in the diner..

GOOD SATURDAY MORNiNG!!!

Today is Saturday, August 17th, 2013!!!

MAKE IT A GREAT DAY!!!

Todays Clean Limerick:

A canner, exceedingly canny,

One morning remarked to his granny,

"A canner can can

Anything  he can;

But he can't can a can, now can he?

Anchors Aweigh, my friend, Anchors aweigh:

Meaning:

Said in preparation of getting underway, especially of a ship

Origin:

There is some doubt in the public mind as to how this phrase should be spelled. Internet searches for 'anchors away' bring up many thousands of hits. The correct spelling is 'anchors aweigh'. As with other frequently seen misspellings, like 'baited breath, and 'just desserts', the 'away' version does make some intuitive sense. The supposed shout of 'anchors away' fits well with the image of ropes being cast off and the anchor being hoisted as a ship prepares to sail away across the sea. There's some justification for assuming the 'away' spelling, as the first known usage of the term in print comes from John Smith's A Sea Grammar, 1627, in which Smith uses that form:

'What is the Anchor away?'

Anchors aweigh

The meaning of the word was nevertheless not the current 'away - removed to a distance', but rather the 'aweigh - being weighed' meaning.

The word 'aweigh' or, as it was often spelled in early citations, 'a-weigh', is now only used in this little phrase. An anchor that is aweigh is one that has just begun to put weight onto the rope or chain by which it is being hauled up. Sailors were fond of adding 'a' to words to make new ones, for example, 'astern', 'aboard', ashore', 'afloat', 'adrift', 'aground', etc.

'A-weigh' is synonymous with the old and now defunct terms 'a-peak' and 'a-trip'. 'A-peak' was the Anglicized version of the French 'a pic', that is, vertical. It is easy to see why the French chose the word vertical to describe an anchor which was being hauled onboard ship. 'A-trip' just meant 'about to be underway', that is, 'on a trip'. This wasn't only reserved for anchors; 'a-trip' was a general sailing term that was used for anything that was about to begin.

Admiral William Henry Smyth, in his nautical dictionary The Sailor's Word-Book, 1867, listed this entry for 'A-trip':

"The anchor is a-trip, or a-weigh, where the purchase has just made it break ground, or raised it clear. Sails are a-trip when they are hoisted from the cap [a thick block of wood], sheeted home, and ready for trimming"...

and for 'Apeek':

"A ship drawn directly over the anchor is apeek"...

The earliest known citation that refers to an anchor being 'aweigh' is in an exchange between two characters in John Dryden's The Tempest, 1670:

Trincalo: Is the Anchor a Peek? Stephano: Is a weigh! is a weigh.

Anchors Aweigh - Film

The song Anchors Aweigh was composed by Charles A. Zimmerman in 1906 with lyrics written by Alfred Hart Miles. It was adopted as the official song of the United States Navy:

Stand Navy down the field, sails set to the sky. We'll never change our course, so Army you steer shy-y-y-y. Roll up the score, Navy, Anchors Aweigh. Sail Navy down the field and sink the Army, sink the Army Grey.

Anchors Aweigh was also a popular musical comedy film of 1945, starring Frank Sinatra and Gene Kelly.

MAKE it a GREAT day!!!

 

Geeked

-G .

Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.

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Posted by james saunders on Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:29 AM

Apologies for my recent absence.

We continue our journey arriving in Cairns to take a journey on the Savannahlander, a fantastic outback rail motor journey over four days that departs from Cairns. I had the privilege of riding it at a VERY discounted rate back in 2007 and even got to sit in the drivers seat Big Smile

On board the 50 year old rail motors you travel up the Kuranda range through plenty of tunnels on narrow ledges in some places with spectacular scenery and rainforest. A short stop at Kuranda before moving onwards gradually seeing the scenery change into the "Savannah" or the outback. You eventually reach Forsayth 450 odd kilometres from Cairns on day two before beginning the return journey the next morning.

Along the way you will encounter alot of Wildlife such as Emu's, Kangaroo's etc and you will also see where the rivers start to flow in different directions, one draining to the east coast and the next draining north to the gulf! That does play a trick on your mind. With plenty of time for photo stops you can gather many great images, of which I'll share a few from my trip, definitely something I want to do again.

Above is morning tea trackside at a staff exchange and cabinet to phone train control.

At Mount Surprise a lovely small town

and the following two shots show some of the great trackwork, mostly the Railmotors take it well and can do 40-60km/h. Some sections are worse and can only manage 10km/h.

Enjoy!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:07 AM

Good morning. It's 65° with 96% humidity. The high will be 92°.


Already had breakfast and took my morning meds. Caregiver has been here and gone. Had her straighten up the bed. Had her help me get bathed and dressed and sent her on her way. Twenty minutes tops. I have no plans for today.

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:54 AM

galaxy

Perhaps he means Alfred State University? That would be closer I think. Had A GF who went there once...

Geeked

Nah...  That's twice as far away from Hammondsport.  Geneva is closer to Hammondsport than Alfred...  Only a little over 18 miles to Keuka College, 38 miles to Geneva, and 41 miles to Alfred.

I have some friends who have taught at Keuka College or worked in other capacities there.  Them folks all gots PHD after their names, they does... Whistling

Ahem...  Mornin' folks!  Yep I'm up early this morning after a good nights sleep and getting ready to head out to the museum for most of the day.  It is member picnic day out there, and I will also do some helping to get the place ready for Diesel Day tomorrow.

Zoe, I'll have the #2 special, over easy eggs, bacon, home fries, and sour dough toast.  Need dark roast coffee with that of course.

Forecast for today is "Mostly".  Yep that is the word they are using.  "Mostly"...  At this point in the day there are shadows outside.  Hope it stays that way!

Oh, Jake, when you get up to the Hammondsport area, I can get you a tour of a fantastic layout built by a gentleman who is a Master Model Railroader.  He loves to have folks stop and see his layout and has regular operating sessions as well.

Catch you all later.

73

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We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by csxns on Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:36 AM

Having a great mourning here was thinking about going to Bojangle's but the wife took off for I can get out of bed so I will just set back and hope that my replacement Pennsylvania ES44AC comes on time.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:34 AM

Good Afternoon Folks!

I hope everyone of you is doing just fine. Continuing prayers for Jeff for a speedy recovery!

I am just home from our big rally in Hamburg. It was an overwhelming affair. More than 1.000 people attended our march the Downtown Hamburg. My fire truck was leading the march. Here are some impressions for you:

The one on the right is my campaign truck. The photo was take right before the march started.

Despite some attempts from a small group of left-wingers, the march was a peaceful, but successful one. Hard to believe that we were able to motivate such a large group of best-agers to join us.

Have a good one!

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Posted by galaxy on Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:39 AM

Hello

Well, there ARE  A bunch of newbies in the diner, and a big fat Welcome to them all!

There ARE a few rules, and I am often asked to regurgitate them, so here they are:

1} Anyone is welcome here who participates in the MR forums!

2} you can talk about anything you want...even if not MRRing related! {within the boundaries of these rules!!!} How your day went, what's going on in your life, what you are up to, etc.

3} KEEP IT CLEAN! There ARE children who read these threads, so NO:  foul language or swearing {includes squiggles to simulate swearing}; NO risque remarks or inuendo or jokes; No dirty talk. If you won't say it to your child, grandchild, Grandmother or religious leader, DON'T say it here!!!!

4} NO "FLAME WAR TOPICS"- includes: politics, religion, etc. One IS allowed to mention prayers and the like for those in need of such..because prayer does not have to be religious realated to wish someone well who is having a hard time....

5} NO risque pics, cartoons, etc. see rule above!

6} OUr hosts have asked to keep pics posted to a limit of one or two per post. They do NOT have to be RR related! {they say something about bandwidth or something}

7} The diner gets "moved" to a new thread a tthe last day of the month, so look for a new diner for the new month!

8} Whomever gets the top of the page must "buy" the meals and "pay the tabs" for those who on that page..{no money changes hands mind you...it is "virtual Money" on a "virtual Credit Card" usually}. DOn't forget a tip for the wait staff!

9} the diner has "security" so beware!

10} come on in, sit a spell and enjoy yourself!

Geeked

 

-G .

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:03 AM

Do you feed hungry LEOPARDS?

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Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by csxns on Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:07 AM

Will that Leopard eat Flounder.

Russell

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:17 AM

LEOPARD FOOD:

And, no, they do not feed the cats or other big animals in public (on display) but only in their dens.

Open the den door, and the cats come in as surely as Pavlov and his dogs.

ROAR

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Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:35 PM

Good afternoon!

I'll have a Barry Sized hot fudge sundae made with frozen custard. Yum! .... JimCG was here, and I'm sure he made efficient use of his time bringing me some frozen custard. He knows I like it. Dinner

Lion .... You can have the leopard food.

jeffrey-wimberly

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Jeff I bet in a few months your going to be moving around like you did before.  You have lots of learning on how to do things all over again.  Your probably going to use muscles that you haven't used before too.  You will get there.  

Well you know what they say. You can't keep a good man down. The same goes for a very determined Cherokee redneck with a fierce independent streak a mile wide. I will rise above this. Just don't be standing in my way.

Jeff ....  Your positive attitude is very inspiring, and I'm glad you put your foot down. Big Smile

Jake .... Best wishes at school.

Russell .... Glad you came back. Feel free to tell us about yourself and your model railroading.

Ulrich .... It is fantanstic to see support for your candidacy! Keep up the momentum!

James ... Thanks for posting photos of the Australian rail diesel car. Not like the RDC's that have been in the USA.. .... The track in the last photo reminds me of my first HO layout when I was very young. Smile, Wink & Grin

Chris ...... Have you buttered up THAT sloced bread yet?  Whistling

 

HAPPY MODEL RAILROADING!

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:24 PM

Evenin folks!

Janie, I'll have a hot butterscotch Sundae with whipped cream and a cherry on top (You have to ask these days as they no longer come standard that way...) and a cup of decaf coffee to wash it down with.

I had a great day out at the museum today.  Nice picnic, the potato salad I brought was a large one and completely disappeared before I was ready to get seconds...  It was a nice relaxing afternoon.  I took my little battery powered sting trimmer out to clean up around the lower yard for diesel days tomorrow.  Used up about 2.5 batteries of tyhe 4 I brought.  Just before I was leaving the Yard Superintendent of the museum came over and asked if he could use the trimmer for a small area up the track where we will be picking up riders and couple he give it back tomorrow.  I do hope there was electric in both of the batteries he has for it.... LOL

Since I got home I have pretty much just been vegging out.  Have to up by 6:30AM tomorrow to be able to make crew call for the day.  We are starting an hour earlier and end an hour later.  I will spend some of the day as a car host on train crew.  Probably will get cycled into some other job (Like holding a red flag and warning the customers that the mud ahead can be slippery, please watch your step...  (Big friendly smile)  Ma'am, please do not stand between the tracks...  (big friendly grin)  We will have 3 different locomotives up and running during the day, the FM H44-12, the GE 80 Tonner, and the GE 45 Tonner Beebee Station will all see service.

Lion, I'm still trying to figure out those packages...  They say Inedible on them, and animal food, and do not feed to some animals....  ???  Scratches head...  Which is it?

Later!

73

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:31 PM

howmus
Lion, I'm still trying to figure out those packages...  They say Inedible on them, and animal food, and do not feed to some animals....  ???  Scratches head...  Which is it?

It is fine frozen meat, but packed in an un inspected plant. Thus it is not legal to sell it for human consumption. I suspect it is just every bit as good and any other lump of meat, or at least the tigers, leopards, lions, bears and birds of prey seem to think so. It is also served to the alligators.

I do not think that you would want to serve it to bovids, but since it is an animal product the warning is there because of the possibility of spreading mad cow disease.

It is acturally fall less warnings than you would find on a lump of meat in your grocer's case: Cook in a potters kiln for 20 days! the very idea. Give me raw lumps of meat, I can deal with that!

ROAR

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Posted by tcwright973 on Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:52 PM

Evening everybody...

I'm having a pretty good weekend so far, and it should get even better by tomorrow night. I got up this morning and just didn't feel like doing anything. That's not to say there isn't a million things I should be doing around the house. So when the wife asked what my plans were for the day, I said not much of anything. She suggested we go watch trains for a couple of hours because she didn't feel like doing anything either. So off we went for a couple of hours. Caught 9 trains, but nothing special. Well, there were 2 BNSF on an empty crude oil headed west. Other than that, pretty routine.

We are planning on going back again tomorrow. Her suggestion by the way, and I don't argue. Afterwards we will come home, get a shower and then I'm taking her out to dinner. It's her birthday so she gets to choose the restaurant. When we get home, I'll give her a couple of gifts I picked up.

I'm expecting delivery of a Sante Fe "Super Chief" passenger car I've had on order. Actually, I have a couple of them on order, but the others aren't due until October. I know, I know. The Super Chief didn't run in western Pennsylvania, so it doesn't really fit into my collection. But the first train I ever controlled the transformer for was a Lionel set my Uncle bought himself back in the mid 40's. He would set it up and let me run it when I would stay a couple of days with them. So I've got a soft spot for that train. And besides, it just looks good.

See you all later...

Tom

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:33 PM

Tom in Pittsburgh ...... First of all. HAPPY BIRTHDAY to your wife! ..... Secondly, PRR and ATSF did offer coast-to-coast sleeping car servies. Cars were moved to connecting trains in Chicago. Santa Fe sleepers went est on PRR, and PRR sleepers went west on ATSF. Therefore, you can run a Santa Fe sleeper on a PRR passenger train and be correct. ........ PRR had similar service with Burlington California Zephyr and with Rock Island Golden State Limted.  The Cal Zephyr also traveled on D&RGW and WP. The Golden State Limited also travled on SP. ..... There might have been similar connections with C&NW or MILW in Chicago for service via Union Pacific trains, but I do not know for sure. ... Also, PRR had through sleepers going through St Louis via the Texas Special (Frisco-Katy) . ... So, add some western railroad sleepers to your PRR trains if you want.  

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:39 PM

Been a somewhat busy day. Helped with folding laundry for a while then looked for a few things online. Cable went out at one point so I watched Tron (original) to pass the time. Now it's time for me to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.



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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:19 PM

Hey there guys.

Had a good second day here on campus. Not much happened today, so I did more decorating in my dorm. Other than that, there wasn't much done.

The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.

-Jake, modeling the Barclay, Towanda & Susquehanna.

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:35 PM

Goooooooooood Evening, a tall, cold RBF please 'n thank you, haven't had THAT for a long while.

GARRY: Nope, haven't buttered up THAT Sliced Bread, I won't even see the young lad until Friday and the next installment of "Facetime with THAT Editor." I doubt very much I'll even bother buttering up THAT bread, I know which side MY bread is buttered on... Whistling Like I told JIM in CAPE G, I'm not even sure what THAT Editor is thinking about thinking about having me do, if anything. We shall see what we see when we see it, I 'spose. When THAT and Mr. Boss were first telling me about the kid, I asked what his photo skills were. They seemed to think he was outstanding. An outstanding writer, outstanding shooter, outstanding this THAT and everything else. THAT's why I call him Sliced Bread if anybody be wondering. 

I'm really wondering how either of the two young ladies THAT interviewed would've done. One was shot down because her references sucked, and I forget what did in the other one. Now depending on how they looked, I might not have minded doin' a little hand-holding in THAT case...Mischief I do remember THAT saying they both had a crap-ton of (urinalism school) experience, more so than Mr. Sliced Bread, who's references were outstanding. Did I mention everything about the kid was supposedly outstanding? Even Big Boss showed up one fine day in the middle of Facetime, and was practically having a personal climactic moment about the kid. Then he noticed I was standing off to the side. He stumbled and fumbled for a moment as he seemed to be trying to remember my name. 

Whatever.

I just keep on keepin' on. I'm still "Old Reliable," the guy who picks up the ball and runs with it, the one who takes up the slack. Everybody and their cousin goes on this thing called "vacation," and I'm the one who stays behind to keep our, "...little weekly miracle" rollin' along. 

Hmmmm. Didn't intend to rant.

In other news and views, w**k on the layout is (again) stalled due to a lack of materials. With Sliced Bread on the payroll, the "cap" on my hours is firmly back in place. But, I did get some prep w**k done on the closet between the RR Room and my office. Eventually, like sometime in the next five to ten years... there will be a lift-out in there in front of  a door to an attic space. On the lift-out shall be trackage with either a staging yard or a continuation of the layout in my office. I also got a little prep w**k done in my office as well. But (again with the but's), I have to replace two 100+ year old windows before I can build anything permanent. Again, a lack of those little green pieces of paper is fouling up the machinery of progress. 

ULRICH: I've been meaning to tell you, I like THAT fire engine, even if those German rigs look a little funny Smile, Wink & Grin . Sorry to hear the far left has been giving you trouble. At the risk of getting poly-tick-ical, I'm not surprised THAT THAT is where the trouble is coming from. 'Nuff said.  I was going to try and sell you my 1953 Dodge fire engine, but I quickly realized the cost of shipping her to Germany would be far more than she's worth. Maybe I can talk a poly-tick-ian around here into THAT for the 2014 elections. Pirate 

Have a good Sunday everybody,

Chris (in Iowa) 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:15 AM

Good Morning Guys!

Yoohoo! Anybody here? Kind of empty, lately. Lots of MIA´s....

Zoe, it´s Sunday, so I dig my usual Sunday fare - bacon&eggs, buttered toast, a stack of hot cakes w/maple syrup, a tall glass of OF and a gallon of coffee. Rallying makes me hungry!

Chris - my fire truck is a 32-year old lady. I agree it looks funny when compared to the ones you folks are used to. It was used to carry 9 fire fighters and a set of pumps to the scene of a fire. In all those 32 years, it just got 10,000 miles in the clock. I will have nearly doubled that by the end of the campaign...

Modern fire trucks look a little bit more "professional" .

... but nothing beats this one:

I´ll be taking a day off from campaigning today and tomorrow. I need to get some rest to refuel my batteries. And I will be getting another year older tomorrow - Sigh

Y´ all have a good one!

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Posted by galaxy on Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:59 AM

morning coffee in the diner...

GOOD SUNDAY MORNING!!!

Today is Sunday August 18th, 2013!!

MAKE IT A GREAT DAY!!

Here's an ode to the chigger,

A bug that's no bigger

Than the point of a tiny small pin

But the welt that he raises

Sure itches like blazes,

And that's where the rub comes in!

 

Betwixt the devil and the deep blue sea:

Meaning:

In difficulty, faced with two dangerous alternatives

Origin:

The phrase was originally 'Between the Devil and the deep sea' (and some 'the Dead Sea' or 'the Red Sea'). The sea turned blue much later and the phrase became well-known via the title of a popular song Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea,written by Ted Koehler and Harold Arlen, and recorded by Cab Calloway in 1931.

What's the source of the original phrase? Well, we would really like to know. 'CANOE', {the Committee to Ascribe a Nautical Origin to Everything}, would have us believe that it has a nautical origin (well, they would, now wouldn't they?). In her book 'When a loose cannon flogs a dead horse there's the devil to pay', Olivia Isil unambiguously attributes a nautical origin to the phrase, albeit without providing any evidence for that.

Set against that there's the explanation that this is from the usual meaning of Devil, that is, the supreme spirit of evil. If it's that Devil we are talking about then the origin is straightforward - the Devil is bad and falling in the deep sea is bad, so when being caught between the two would be cause for concern.

Between the Devil and the deep blue sea

People who like that explanation can point back to Greek mythology for an earlier version of the idea of being caught between evil and the sea. Homer's Odyssey refers to Odysseus being caught between Scylla (a six-headed monster) and Charybdis (a whirlpool).

To explain the nautical theory we'll need to define some sailing terminology. That's always dangerous ground for landlubbers and usually results in some horny-handed sailing type writing in to say that I don't know my scuppers from my square knots, but here goes anyway...

"Devil - the seam which margins the waterways on a ship's hull".

This definition is from Admiral Henry Smyth's invaluable Sailor's Word-Book: An Alphabetical Digest of Nautical Terms, 1867. That definition wasn't entirely clear to me, but a correspondent who describes himself as 'an engineer and vessel constructor' clarified it this way:

"Devil - the seam between the deck planking and the topmost plank of the ship's side".

This seam would need to be watertight and would need filling (in modern terms: caulking) from time to time. On a ship at sea this would presumably require a sailor to be suspended over the side, or at least to stand at the very edge of the deck. Either way it is easy to see how that might be described as 'between the devil and the deep sea'.

Incidentally, another term for filling a seam is 'paying'. Those that like nautical origins also give this as the source for the devil to pay, although the evidence is against them on that one.

The first recorded citation of 'the Devil and the deep sea' in print is in Robert Monro's His expedition with the worthy Scots regiment called Mac-keyes, 1637:

"I, with my partie, did lie on our poste, as betwixt the devill and the deep sea."

The seafaring theory is plausible, but does it 'hold water?' Was the nautical term 'devil' in use when the phrase was coined? We've no evidence to show the word in that context until over two hundred years after the first sighting of the phrase. If the phrase really does predate the word then the nautical derivation is clearly incorrect. The onus falls on the nautical believers to provide the evidence - and I'm not holding my breath on that.

'CANOE' doesn't quite convince with this one. On balance it seems wise to stay on dry land and stick with the Devil we know.

 

Geeked

-G .

Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.

 HO and N Scale.

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:11 AM

*walks in to kitchen to start making schnitzel to put out for the potluck for Ulrichs birthday* Big Smile happy Birthday!!!

SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.

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Posted by liba on Sunday, August 18, 2013 6:59 AM

Good morning, I'll just stumble over to a corner seat. Brother Lion Mr. Ulrich .hpe I spelled your name right. You to are inspirations & wise fellows, and Cheers the Bear& others.

An English breakfast please, thanks. No? English breakfasts, o.k an American one then please. Cheers.

well, I've come out of my funk & will ask my sister how to post pictures so I can share some photos. 4 years I went with out an episode but as my Father said, we all have our moments. I have begrudgingly seen the doc & all is well.. My Mum & Sister say its because I have knocked my head around. What can u do you have to keep going. Fighting apparently has consequences. I really apreciate u all thanks. 

When I found my self bricking up a two story house by my self, it was very hard, I' m glad that I brought that first of many mr mags while paying bills in the news agent. 

My Mates know I'll knock them out if they try to say anything derogatory about m. Rail Roading

Eat up.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:47 AM

Good Morning...

Boy, was I busy the last couple of days...SWMBO decided that 'we' needed to go up into the attic to see what was up there...did I say ...'we'? Sad  Nah...it was more like ...little ol' me that went up to the attic...oh joy Tongue Tied...it was chock-a-block with more junk than ...."Carter had Liver Pills"Dead So...to start...several old chests, a rocking chair, a couple of old paintings and several other items of woe had to come down to the main part of the house...to rest...where else...in my just cleaned up and ready to reno studio space!!!Bang HeadGrumpy So, guess whose workspace gets to be done...first? SWMBO's.....growl!!!!Bang Head

I'm going to crawl back to the basement and mope....Black Eye

.....WelcomeWelcome Liba!!!

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:49 AM

Flo!! Left the CC in the box ...eat up guys!!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:11 AM

Good morning. It's 69° with 100% humidity. The high will be 90°.
 with a very tiny chance of

Not much going on today. I haven't had to use the pain meds for a day now so I guess that's a good sign. Next time the home health people come to change the dressing I'll be able to get another look at how well the wound is healing. I may do some work on the Apple IIe later today depending on how good I'm feeling.

Running Bear, Sundown, Louisiana
          Joined June, 2004

Dr. Frankendiesel aka Scott Running Bear
Space Mouse for president!
15 year veteran fire fighter
Collector of Apple //e's
Running Bear Enterprises
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beatus homo qui invenit sapientiam


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