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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, May 6, 2012 10:55 PM

Ray ... I'm glad the dog was unharmed. Running to a road can be bad for a dog. SOunds like a delightful afternoon with grad daughters.. ..... That's an adventure you had with the 2-8-2. Sometimes, the decoders need to be reset to factory defaults so you can start over. 

Vincent ... Sounds like a good purchase of the F45..... I have the Proto 1000 F3s and like them, too. I have replaced cracked gears as needed which is the common problem with them. Mine are a CB&Q ABBA and a GN AB. 

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Posted by Packer on Sunday, May 6, 2012 10:41 PM

Evening guys

I managed to snag that Genesis F45. So now I have 2, 6635 with MRC sound and digirax DCC (was MRC for all), and 6633, which I need to buy a decoder for. Train finds are kind of dry after that one though.

Jeff, seems pretty tedious. and heavy machiing isn't really my strong suit

Ken, Well I looked on the bay and found some of the P1K F3s. They seem to go for the same price as the stewarts.

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, May 6, 2012 10:15 PM

Evenin' folks!

Janie, just a decaf for me...  What, no can't have a piece of the strawberry rhubarb pie tonight as much as would like to....  Yep, not taking any chances.  Ate only a small amount at my son's house tonight and behaved myself.  I have a blood draw first thing in the morning, that's why!

I played with the granddaughters all afternoon.  They weren't always being nice to each other and almost got sent to their rooms on a couple of occasions.  The girls, myself, and their Uncle Ben went outside to the front porch for a while and let the girls run off some energy out there.  I happened to look over towards the driveway and see their Beagle who is supposed to be on a chain when he is outside running up the driveway.....  He wore out the cable and it broke!  Ben was able to catch him just as he was nearing the road on his way over to the neighbors house to start trouble...  He stayed inside the rest of the day.

My hearing aids once again started doing some strange things...  Not communication with each other and not cycling through the different setting like they are supposed to  The right one finally just stopped working???  Guess they will be going back to the factory to find out what is going on with them.  Since i am not supposed to be driving without the hearing aids, i decided to head back home early. 

Decided to take a look at my Athearn 2-8-2 Mike.  It just would run when I tried to get it to bring a train out of staging several months ago, and I figured it had the typical Athearn cracked gear issue like the first one I bought several years ago.  Decided to take it apart and see if I could check on the gear.  I removed the housing carefully and ghot to where I could try to wiggle the worm gear.  it seemed to be OK.  Reassembled the loco and figured maybe somehow I had a bad decoded.  Removed the top of the tender and remembered on this all the pick up is in the loco and the decoder just sits loose in the tender...  Took just the loco over and tried to fire it up.  Nothing...  No lights, no forward or reverse.... Was about ready to chuck the decoder when i remembered I had a "Loy's Toys" decoder tester.  Removed the decoder and took it and the tester up to where the Zepher is still connected to the Timesaver.  Decoder showed it had power but didn't respond to #41 for the loco.  Suddenly a thought occurred.  Unusual, but it happens.  Reset the address on the decoder and Whalla!  Decoder now works.  Reinstalled it in the Mike, and I now have a working locomotive again.......

Hope you all have a great evening out there!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, May 6, 2012 9:39 PM

Howdy ... I'll have some derby pie...... mmmmm 

Ulrich .... Hows the weather in Switzerland summer and fall? Are the rental chalets at places near train stations? Your pictures look great.. How's train service in Germany from Swiss to your location? .... Starting to wonder about Europe. I suspect Switzerland, Austria, Germany are among the few places that are holding together somewhat. 

Alvie ... I meant t osay earlier, it was good you stopped in. .... 

Vincent ... Good luck with your F unit hunt. I like my Stewarts. No troubles with mine. There are many alternatives, though. 

Where are Atta Boy, Duke, Bama, and other MIA's? 

I've been under the layout working on wiring.

Cheers.  

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, May 6, 2012 9:05 PM

Time for me to call it a night. I had to change the dressing on my foot three times today. It's been bleeding like a stuck pig. See y'all tomorrow.

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:56 PM

 Vince Yes that is for an A B set, the dummy is the B unit. Let me know if you want them. Personal I would look at PK 1000's on E-Stupid my self. I have had no luck with Stewart's. Shame the motors are not as good as PK's. Shells will inter change and I like the bigger wires the Stewart's have.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, May 6, 2012 6:48 PM

Packer

Jeff, I agree with you, but it is fairly reasonable for what they are going for on the bay. How hard was it to fit an athearn drive into a stewart F-unit?

It was more trouble than I'd want to go to again. I just wanted to see if it could be done. It can but it takes lots of surgery. The Stewart frame has high sides and ends. The trucks for it fit in a single hole each as the clip holds it to the frame. To put the Proto trucks in required reaming the holes out larger and making a mount to go go across the hole and the mount has to have a pin on it for the truck to pivot on and the worm cover clip has to be able to grab the top of it. I cut the high sides and ends off the frame and filled the holes from the coupler adapters with lead then mounted extended coupler pockets to the frame.The weight lost by losing the sides and ends was replaced by adding the Athearn super weight. And I'm not making any more of them.

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Posted by Packer on Sunday, May 6, 2012 5:28 PM

I managed to snag an Athearn RTR SW15 on the bay. So I finally have a pair of switchers. The seller has an Athearn Genesis F45 as well. I'm gonna try to snag the F45 too, but I won't go as hard on it as the SW15.

Ken, The ones I watched went for around 50-60 each, and they aren't the kato ones. Those go even higher. Is the $59 for the A-B set? That seems reasonable given what the ones I watched on ebay went for. I could probably swap the shells to some friends who model the Santa Fe to get some undecs. That would give me an ABB of stewarts, and 2 athearn As.

Jeff, I agree with you, but it is fairly reasonable for what they are going for on the bay. How hard was it to fit an athearn drive into a stewart F-unit?

Vincent

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, May 6, 2012 5:13 PM

cudaken
What is a good prices on a Stewart F unit on E-Bay? Reason I ask is Ken (owner of K-10) had set aside a A B set for me last year. He finally found them and asked if I still wanted them? Well Jeffery all ready have more f my junk than I care to think about so I told him No. I saw them today on the shelf for $59.00 NIB. Is that a good prices? If so, let me know and I will help you get them. A is power, B is a dummy. Santa Fe Freight Warbonnet paint.

I'd consider that a good price if both units are powered.

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, May 6, 2012 5:04 PM

 Afternoon Folks

 Beer Please, thank you Flo.

 Pretty much napped this AM, still tired. Getting Old Sucks!

 Went to K-10 today. It was open house today and when I pulled up the parking lot was packed. As luck would have it I ran into Simon 1966 and we had a good chat.

 Vince What is a good prices on a Stewart F unit on E-Bay? Reason I ask is Ken (owner of K-10) had set aside a A B set for me last year. He finally found them and asked if I still wanted them? Well Jeffery all ready have more of my junk than I care to think about so I told him No. I saw them today on the shelf for $59.00 NIB. Is that a good prices? If so, let me know and I will help you get them. A is power, B is a dummy. Santa Fe Freight Warbonnet paint.

 Later, Ken

 

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Posted by Packer on Sunday, May 6, 2012 3:07 PM

Afternoon guys

Just got back from work, boy was it busy.

F-unit hunt: It seems everytime I find what could be a decent deal on a stewart F-unit, the price goes crazy. I'm gonna call the hunt to an semi-active stage. Mean I'll keep looking, but I won't make it a priority.

I'll stop in later, I have some things to do around the house.

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Sunday, May 6, 2012 2:31 PM

Coffee in a  UNION PACIFIC  mug, please.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, May 6, 2012 1:53 PM

Good Afternoon

Sunny and 66F right now...had to spend some time mowing...no...make that CUT...our hay today..dang nitrogen enriched rainwater....Grumpy

Ulrich:  On that question of running vs operating..I tend to do both here..depends on what I feel like more....Whistling

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:30 AM

Tikes! ... Don't look, kids! ... Ray "mooned "the diner.

Our sky was hazy last night, and it was not a good view. 

Galaxy ... Glad to hear it was a good wedding. 

Chris ... good to see your posts here in THAT diner.

Jeff ... You keep the Sundown Shops busy. Overtime costs must be big on your railroad.  .... The KCS photos I mentioned are in Kalmbach's current  Classic Trains issue I just received. You may wish to look at it on your next LHS visit. 

Ulrich ... I like the Swiss steamer pictures. 

 

 

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Posted by cats think well of me on Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:17 AM

Morning everyone! 

Worked this morning, and right now making for an easy day cleaning up the house, especially after the furry family members :( 

Well Madame Butterfly had been an amazing production! The acting, arias, and the orchestra! Perfecto! After getting home last night I spent an hour playing some of them on Youtube.

Going to setup the airbrush to play with again, this time on an actual model itself! I have a real Athearn car or two that'll be perfect for that. 

-Alvie

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:10 AM

An explanation of the subject I used for this mornings photo. I know it looks like an Athearn mechanism. It isn't. You have to look closer. The weight on it is for an Athearn F7 but had to be filed to fit the frame it's on. The flywheels, shafts and worms are the newer Athearn 'hex' drive type. The motor is Proto Power West from A-Line. The trucks are Proto 1000 AAR and the frame (are you ready for this?) is a modified Stewart/Kato frame. The loco is DCC. There's a Bachmann decoder mounted under the far end of the weight just above the rear truck. The body shell for it is a Proto 2000 F3B shell. This is truly a 'junk box special'.

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, May 6, 2012 9:59 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, I'll have a raisin bran muffin with real butter and a cup of dark roast coffee this morning.

Currently 57°F outside under sunny skies with a high later around 66°F.  i tried to get a decent photo of the super sized full moon last night.  I think I need a lot larger glass to get anything world class.... LOL  I did get an interesting shot through the neighbor's Maple tree using my 100mm lens.

Most of today I will be over at my son's house babysitting the granddaughters while he and his better half are doing a wine tour this afternoon.  Then I will stay for dinner which is always excellent!  Need to be careful how much and what I eat though as I have a blood draw tomorrow morning for my 6 month check up at the doctor's office next week.

Bill, I love the old Pennsy Station you posted.  Somewhat similar to the NYC Station used to look like in Canandaigua way back when.

Ulrich, nice work on the layout....  Keep us posted with the updates.  The guy you are doing the design for is lucky to have your help!

Need to get a few things done before lunch time. Catch you all later!

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, May 6, 2012 9:28 AM

Good morning. It's 76° and cloudy. The high will be 88° and it'll be partly cloudy.

Nothing planned for today. Don't feel like doing anything.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, May 6, 2012 9:20 AM

Good morning, Chloe.  Coffee, please.  This afternoon it should be nice enough to get our motorcycles out for a short ride.

Yesterday, Larry and I did a short operations session on our layout.  It is amazing how fast time flies.  Maybe I will get the lawn mowed today.Laugh 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 6, 2012 9:04 AM

Still working on that tin-plate layout plan:

Introducing curved turnouts makes the dang thing look a lot sleeker and increases the platform length. Need to rework the wiring diagram Sad

Next step is "scenery".

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Good Morning...
Posted by wetidlerjr on Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:45 AM

 

Good Morning! from Tipton IN.

 

 

Cool

 

 

 

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Near a cornfield in Indiana...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:38 AM

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Ulrich: I can see a combination of Marklin's plan with WS scenery...oh my....http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_love.gif

You know, Barry - I can see that too. I don´t know what it is, but there is something to the way layouts were built in those days. A very simplistic approach to scenery, but it made young and old boys´ hearts go "boom, boom, boom" , when they saw a layout like this. And to be honest, I think they were just great - in a different, but nonetheless appealing way.

I could actually see myself building one like that. But again, hold the colored sawdust and those awful plastic trees Smile, Wink & Grin

Just a quick poll among friends:

When it comes to operating your layout, what do you prefer (or do most of the time)?

  • "Real" operation, with way bills etc.?
  • Just letting a train run?

I am right now that my way of operating a layout is changing. It used to be trying to attempt to re-enact prototype operation as close as possible, but now I find letting trains run more appealing. Makes my mind wander back to my youth days...

Is this just age?

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:25 AM

Good Morning!!!  Coffee and yes, the breakfast buffet please, thank you.

A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 1pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 87.

OK. I have good news. Yesterday I did go uptown to a garage saler using the old bank as a multi-family thing. Now I know this guy naturally, and he is/was a MRer and he was selling some of his stuff. Mostly the Circus Train stuff so I didn't really expect to get anything. I did however pick up a box of scratch building pieces and parts for $5. The whitepicket fencing I could use and themisc feed bags, shovelstools etc not to mention decls, just a plethora of stuff in a shoe box size container was worth waaaaay more than $5. Also got another one of them multi little plastic drawer things with a bunch of couplers, lot’s of horn hook which will find their way to the trash…Hmm.uuuuunlessss…Mischief..anyway and some plastic couplers but quite a few KD’s and their boxes and spring things. So those, the handy cabinet several Caboose ground throws (of which I do need some more) some solder and a magnetic uncoupling tool and some misc stuff with a few small tools is worth ten bucks to me. Could I have haggled a bit? Sure, but I need him to do a roof repair again. Boot around the vent pipe leaks and well, don’t want him thinking he needs to recoup his loss with interestLaugh. Just kidding. He’s a real nice guy.

Well, hauled a lot of stuff to the village garage cleanup day thing. Problem is you can’t really tell anything is goneSigh.

Today do some more cleanup outside and guess what. You’re right, it’s been three days….gotta mow again. I don’t get it. It hasn’t really rained all that much either.   

Ya’ll have a good day!!!!

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, May 6, 2012 6:41 AM

Good Morning

We are having a mix of sun/cloud with the ever popular chance of showersWhistling

Today is a relaxing day of train stuff and cuddling the little Spring..who is demanding attention now lol!

Ulrich: I can see a combination of Marklin's plan with WS scenery...oh my....

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Morning Coffee....
Posted by galaxy on Sunday, May 6, 2012 6:26 AM

GOOD MORNING!!!

Today is Sunday, May 6th, 2012!!!

Warning: Mother's Day is one week away {For those who still have mothers or are married to or know a mother}!!!

Geeked

-G .

Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 6, 2012 1:07 AM

AmanaMedic

What's the Swiss word or words for "seeya later?"

Chrishttp://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww164/CUFFEMTP/8ball-1.jpg

 

Chris - that´ll be "uffwiederluege".

Good Morning Gang,

I don´t want to hurry you folks, but we have a train to catch, so please finish your breakfast and get going!

I talked to the Rhaetian Railway management and could persuade them to assign a special motive power to our train to St. Moritz today.

Helper service will be done by this cutie:

Good reasons to be at the station on time!

Garry - the layout will be done in the tradition of Marklin´s show layouts of the 1950´s and 1960´s, exclusively using materials from that time.  I could persuade him to leave out the colored saw dust and use WS ground cover instead Smile, Wink & Grin

To give you an idea of what layouts liked like in my youth days, here is a picture:

Have a good day!

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, May 6, 2012 12:30 AM

 Morning

 Happy Day Off!

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:25 PM

 Evening Dinners!

 Flo, Beer Please.

 Work Front I feel beat to death, my feet are killing me. Went in at 8:30 AM and we close at 7:00 PM. Took a late lunch and at 5:00 PM, only 1 car in the parking lot. Cool, should get out at closing! Cool Well it goes with out saying we got a 5:00 rush. Got out of the store at 8:45 PM, good thing we closed at 7:00 PM. 

 I am Training another new Manager In Training! Bang Head Guess that tells me what Dave thinks of me. I just need to find time and speak up and tell him I want a shop! But, it is hard to find him with free time!

 Seems I have 2 day off sort of. I am off Sunday and after today I need it. I am off Wednesday as well, but I have to go to a training class? Well, that is sort of off. At lease I will be sitting!

 Sunday As luck would have it, K-10 Model train has it's open house Sunday! Cool

 Gary If by chances you don't need your Erie's Whistling Let me know.

 Ken

 

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:58 PM

"Chris, long time no see.The building on the right looks nice, but I have no layout to use it on."

Thanks! I don't either... and what I'm envisioning once I get THAT far, there won't be a place/purpose for it. It's a Design Preservation Models (DPM) "Cutting's Scissors Works," I think. It was originally knocked together in 1987, re-worked a bit in 1988, and again in 1997. 

Gooooooooooooood Evening, I'll have a burger like BILL's, only make it a double, no...a triple please, with some bacon. I'd best take it "to go," gotta get the cafe' feature finished-up. It's slowly coming together. The story on the cool kids who aren't jerks is filed. IF things go as planned (jinx! jinx! jinx!) I "might" be able to spend some quality time tomorrow with the SW-something and/or the GP-50.

 

Did I just hear God laugh?

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Posted by Packer on Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:43 PM

Evening guys

Just got back from some Cinco de Mayo stuff. Had to call the night early because I'm beat and have to work at 6 tomorrow morning. Hiopefully it won't be too busy.

Chris, long time no see.The building on the right looks nice, but I have no layout to use it on.

jeffrey-wimberly

Got my Walthers Flyer in the mail today. I was just glancing through it when I came across the new SD9's. They look really good but at $189.98 for standard DC ($289.98 for DCC/Sound) I won't be buying one anything soon nor anytime in the foreseeable future. The manufacturers must think we all have money falling out our butts.

I saw that too. What makes it worse for me is they got the BN Green wrong. They had it right on some of their previous locos. I have only gotten 2 brand-new locomotives in my time in the hobby. My F45 and GP15 were new Athearn Genesis models. Still amazes me that in the 2 or 3 years since my F45 the price of new locos has gone up by almost 100 bucks... I'm hoping to be able to get a new Stewart C636 for my birthday

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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