What am I?

[M636C]

No,

A bigger locomotive North of there!

Peter

[AggroJones]

NYC Mohawk!?!?!?!?

[M636C]

Yes!!

NYC rebuilt two class L2d Mohawks, with a new cast steel frame and cylinders and disc driving axle wheels in 1939. They were numbered 2998 and 2999, and were the prototypes for the L3 and L4 Mohawks (which were numbered 3000 upward).

They looked very like the Hudsons, with the same compressor shields and other details at the front end. In fact, they were only one foot longer than the Hudsons.

They took over some of the heavier trains until replaced by the Niagaras after WWII. Some L3s and L4s were freight only, but most of them were available for passenger trains.

Perhaps that isn't as well known as I thought!

Your turn to ask a question!

Peter

[AggroJones]

Some of us were not painted black.

We were built in groups over a 17 year period by multiple manufactures.

I'm small, but not that small, Eastern steamer.

What am I?

[Anonymous]

B&O Pacific?

[M636C]

If we are being that general, I have to agree with cjm89.
B&O built their own P-1s using mikado boilers, and the construction lasted a long time (the P-9b came in 1938 or so using the firebox from the W-1) and P-7s were both green and blue, so as above! B&O Pacific!

Peter

[Anonymous]

M636C, I might as well not even post, you'll get it right! I could have went to steamlocomotive.com and found the class, but I didn't wan't to.[(-D]

[M636C]

I'm not always right! And we haven't heard from the asker of the question yet!

The numbers of the rebuilt Mohawks were 2995 and 2998, (not 2999). That was just wishful thinking on my part, that they had grouped the dual service engines!

But the B&O were happy to try almost anything over the years. It is worth reading the books about it. A visit to the B&O Museum is worthwhile. A lot of fairly delicate full size models were built in 1927, and these looked like they could do with some restoration even before the roof fell in. I hope they didn't lose too much.

Peter

[AggroJones]

Nope. And nope.

[AggroJones]

Another clue.....

435 of us were built in 4 different classes.

[M636C]

Aggro,

I must be missing something. I can't seem to find anything that meets the clues!

Assuming my numbers might not be accurate, the following fall into the general ball park of numbers and classes:

Reading 2-8-0s (20th century classes)
NYC 2-8-2s
NYC 4-8-2s
B&O 2-8-2s
SOU 2-8-0s

Maybe I need more clues!

Peter

[AggroJones]

We are coal burners in the deep South.

[Anonymous]

A shot in the dark, but a SR Ss-1 2-10-2?

[Anonymous]

A Southern RR 4-8-2 or 4-6-2?

[M636C]

I can't get the numbers to give 435

but it sounds like it should be a Southern 2-8-2, given 4501 being green.

Peter

[AggroJones]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C


Southern 2-8-2, given 4501 being green.

Yes.

[AggroJones]

A total of 83 units were built in 5 classes.

We ressemble a larger, more famous locomotive on our road.

Some of us had parts paint not black.

What are we?

[M636C]

I can never get my stock numbers to match yours!

My figures say 105 units, but there are five subclasses.

UP Challengers?

(Some were grey, look like Big Boy!)

so..... ?

[AggroJones]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

I can never get my stock numbers to match yours!

My figures say 105 units, but there are five subclasses.

UP Challengers?

(Some were grey, look like Big Boy!)

so..... ?

Nope.

[Anonymous]

ESPEE GS-1 thru GS-5 4-8-4 "Golden States?"

or a UP FEF series Northern?

[AggroJones]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cjm89

ESPEE GS-1 thru GS-5 4-8-4 "Golden States?"

or a UP FEF series Northern?

Nope.

Another clue.....I was dual service steamer.

[M636C]

Southern Pacific 4-8-2 classes MT-1 to MT-5,

Had skyline casings like GS series, some were red and orange for Bakersfield trains.

Peter

[AggroJones]

Right.


Now you go. And don't make it impossible! [;)]

[M636C]

We were the last of our kind on the road in question. We were considered as a throwback, because we closely followed a very similar but larger locomotive class. We combined really modern features with some old style features. We lacked an Elesco feedwater heater, which had been characteristic of earlier locomotives of this type on this road. There were twenty of our class. We were big, but light, dual service locomotives. Built as coal burners, we were converted to oil later. Our "nickname" related to a feature later removed.

Peter

[AggroJones]

Canadian National U 4-8-2?

[M636C]

Yes, but not the whole class,

U-1f numbers 6060 to 6079

But it wasn't too hard, like you asked.

The modern features were streamlining, the old feature was a capped stack.
The nickname was "Bullet Nose Betty" (and the cone was later removed.)

They were very similar (except for the nose cone) to the final U2h 4-8-4.

U-1 = 4-8-2
U-2 = 4-8-4 (Canada)
U-3= 4-8-4 (USA)
U-4= Streamliner 4-8-4 (Canada and USA)

Well done, your turn

Peter

[AggroJones]

I was designed for slow pusher service.

I'm a terrible, terrible looking steamer.

Our total number of units built is low.

We worked in the eastern half of the US.

[M636C]

Got to be an 0-8-8-0 Mallet Compound.

Most big Eastern roads had a few (NYC, PRR, B&O, etc..)

Peter

[AggroJones]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Got to be an 0-8-8-0 Mallet Compound.

Most big Eastern roads had a few (NYC, PRR, B&O, etc..)

Peter

Yes, specifically.....


Your turn.

[M636C]

I am the heaviest and last of an old established type. I was built from parts of a much bigger, later design. I was too heavy to be used in the normal service for my wheel arrangement.

The answer requires the road name and wheel arrangement. Extra marks for road class!

Peter