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Posted by Texas Zepher on Saturday, April 21, 2007 3:56 PM
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Sounds to me more like Santa Fe's 2-10-4 #5000 (aka "Madame Queen"). Although only rated at 93,000 lbs of TE, that rating was nominal.
Closer but nope,  My source for this story states, "and wonder of wonders the xxxxxx even eclipsed one of the Santa Fe's monstrous brand-new 5011 class 2-10-4's!"
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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:00 PM

A CB&Q's Colorado?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:08 PM

 Texas Zepher wrote:
 andrechapelon wrote:
Sounds to me more like Santa Fe's 2-10-4 #5000 (aka "Madame Queen"). Although only rated at 93,000 lbs of TE, that rating was nominal.
Closer but nope,  My source for this story states, "and wonder of wonders the xxxxxx even eclipsed one of the Santa Fe's monstrous brand-new 5011 class 2-10-4's!"

Well, since the 5011 class wasn't delivered until 1944, this would either have to make the loco a diesel or one of Santa Fe's second hand  N&W Y-3's. I'm going to discount any diesel since they were already a known quantity on the Santa Fe, so I'll say the 1790 class ex N&W Y-3. Santa Fe was sufficiently impressed with the steam generating capabilities of the ex-Y-3's to consider using the boilers to make a new class of 4-8-4's.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:33 PM
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A CB&Q's Colorado?
Nope.  For those who don't know the C&S and CB&Q called a 2-10-4 type locomotive a Colorado class.
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:43 PM

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Well, since the 5011 class wasn't delivered until 1944,
Ah you picked up on that clue.  But now I have to qualify that statement that "brand new" would have to be in relative terms of locomotive life.  This story is from 1946.

I'll say the 1790 class ex N&W Y-3.
Nope.  However a side note here is that these (the Y-3s) were the first articulated locomotives that Santa Fe had on the line since their first horribly failed experiment with the 2-10-10-2.  It left such a bad taste in their mouth they never even considered articulated locomotives again.  Notice there never were any Santa Fe Challengers, Big Boys, or Yellowstones....

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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:50 PM
 Texas Zepher wrote:

 andrechapelon wrote:
Well, since the 5011 class wasn't delivered until 1944,
Ah you picked up on that clue.  But now I have to qualify that statement that "brand new" would have to be in relative terms of locomotive life.  This story is from 1946.

I'll say the 1790 class ex N&W Y-3.
Nope.  However a side note here is that these (the Y-3s) were the first articulated locomotives that Santa Fe had on the line since their first horribly failed experiment with the 2-10-10-2.  It left such a bad taste in their mouth they never even considered articulated locomotives again.  Notice there never were any Santa Fe Challengers, Big Boys, or Yellowstones....

Well, it's either got to be the 16 class F3's or the 51 class Alcos.

OK, I'll go with the 51 class Alcos.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:43 AM
 andrechapelon wrote:
Well, it's either got to be the 16 class F3's or the 51 class Alcos.

OK, I'll go with the 51 class Alcos.

And you would be exactly right.     Source of story is "Santa Fe's Early Diesel Daze 1935-1953".

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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:16 AM

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 andrechapelon wrote:
Well, it&#39;s either got to be the 16 class F3&#39;s or the 51 class Alcos.<p>OK, I&#39;ll go with the 51 class Alcos.
And you would be exactly right.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source of story is &quot;Santa Fe&#39;s Early Diesel Daze 1935-1953&quot;.</p>


You're talking about a diesel!? M'kay guys...we have to indicate if said mystery loco is steam or not from now on. Wink [;)]

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Posted by andrechapelon on Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:12 PM
 AggroJones wrote:

 Texas Zepher wrote:
 andrechapelon wrote:
Well, it&#39;s either got to be the 16 class F3&#39;s or the 51 class Alcos.<p>OK, I&#39;ll go with the 51 class Alcos.
And you would be exactly right.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source of story is &quot;Santa Fe&#39;s Early Diesel Daze 1935-1953&quot;.</p>


You're talking about a diesel!? M'kay guys...we have to indicate if said mystery loco is steam or not from now on. Wink [;)]

Why? That takes half the fun out of it.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:22 PM

 AggroJones wrote:
You're talking about a diesel!? M'kay guys...we have to indicate if said mystery loco is steam or not from now on.
I thought that was a pretty unique twist, to get a question worded in such a way that could have been either.  In 1945-1946 most 4-6-4s and 4-8-4s were being replace by diesels.

So Andre, are you thinking up a good one for us? 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, April 23, 2007 8:13 PM
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I'll go with the 51 class Alcos.
Right, your turn.
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Posted by nscaler711 on Thursday, May 3, 2007 4:01 PM

hey im new to this forum so yea Hello Peoples also

i have a locomotive from the local short line for u guys to guess

 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=215459

ur gonna have to copy and paste it sorry the darn internet service wouldnt let me copy and paste the link on here 

 

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, May 3, 2007 4:50 PM
 nscaler711 wrote:

hey im new to this forum so yea Hello Peoples also

i have a locomotive from the local short line for u guys to guess

 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=215459

ur gonna have to copy and paste it sorry the darn internet service wouldnt let me copy and paste the link on here 

Ex Santa Fe GP7u.

Kinda like this one: 

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, May 3, 2007 4:57 PM

 Texas Zepher wrote:
 andrechapelon wrote:
I'll go with the 51 class Alcos.
Right, your turn.

OK, if you're going to be that way.

I'm a steam locomotive and ran in a country in the Southern Hemisphere. I produced 25,000 lbs of tractive effort and was in regular service until around 1970. I was built both by North British Locomotive Company as well as in the Lower Hutt shops of my owning railroad. The last of my type were built at Lower Hutt in 1956. What am I?

Andre

 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Thursday, May 3, 2007 5:38 PM

Was your nick name - Black Beauty?

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Posted by twhite on Thursday, May 3, 2007 7:57 PM
 andrechapelon wrote:

 Texas Zepher wrote:
 andrechapelon wrote:
I'll go with the 51 class Alcos.
Right, your turn.

OK, if you're going to be that way.

I'm a steam locomotive and ran in a country in the Southern Hemisphere. I produced 25,000 lbs of tractive effort and was in regular service until around 1970. I was built both by North British Locomotive Company as well as in the Lower Hutt shops of my owning railroad. The last of my type were built at Lower Hutt in 1956. What am I?

Andre

Andre:  Are you one of those cute little American-styled 2-8-2's that used to run from Lima up the Andes to Cuzco on the Peruvian Railway?  Just taking a wild guess,but they always looked as if they'd be just as at home on either the D&RGW in Chama, or maybe the WP&Y in Skagway. 

OR: if not, perhaps one of those handsome condenser 4-8-4's on the South African Railways? Again, justa wild guess.  Actually, I'm REALLY curious as to the right answer!

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:11 PM
 twhite wrote:
 andrechapelon wrote:

 Texas Zepher wrote:
 andrechapelon wrote:
I'll go with the 51 class Alcos.
Right, your turn.

OK, if you're going to be that way.

I'm a steam locomotive and ran in a country in the Southern Hemisphere. I produced 25,000 lbs of tractive effort and was in regular service until around 1970. I was built both by North British Locomotive Company as well as in the Lower Hutt shops of my owning railroad. The last of my type were built at Lower Hutt in 1956. What am I?

Andre

Andre:  Are you one of those cute little American-styled 2-8-2's that used to run from Lima up the Andes to Cuzco on the Peruvian Railway?  Just taking a wild guess,but they always looked as if they'd be just as at home on either the D&RGW in Chama, or maybe the WP&Y in Skagway. 

OR: if not, perhaps one of those handsome condenser 4-8-4's on the South African Railways? Again, justa wild guess.  Actually, I'm REALLY curious as to the right answer!

TomTongue [:P]

 

 

Right hemisphere, wrong countries. However, the locomotive in question was built to the same gauge as the SAR Class 25 4-8-4's.

Edit: I misstated where some of the locos were built. The later ones were built at Hillside Workshops not at Lower Hutt.

 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Thursday, May 3, 2007 11:53 PM
 andrechapelon wrote:
Right hemisphere, wrong countries. However, the locomotive in question was built to the same gauge as the SAR Class 25 4-8-4's.

Edit: I misstated where some of the locos were built. The later ones were built at Hillside Workshops not at Lower Hutt. 

New Zeland Railroad Ja class?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, May 4, 2007 12:05 AM
 Texas Zepher wrote:
 andrechapelon wrote:
Right hemisphere, wrong countries. However, the locomotive in question was built to the same gauge as the SAR Class 25 4-8-4's.

Edit: I misstated where some of the locos were built. The later ones were built at Hillside Workshops not at Lower Hutt. 

New Zeland Railroad Ja class?

Yup.

Your turn

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, May 4, 2007 12:23 AM

Mentioning the Hillside Workshop is what gave it away.

Ok, lets see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a mega-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after only wearing it for about 3 months. And this was about 8 years after the merger!  My locomotive class also was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the mega-merger.

What loco am I? 

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Posted by M636C on Friday, May 4, 2007 4:32 AM
 Texas Zepher wrote:

Mentioning the Hillside Workshop is what gave it away.

Ok, lets see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a mega-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after only wearing it for about 3 months. And this was about 8 years after the merger!  My locomotive class also was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the mega-merger.

What loco am I? 

 

Mega Merger sounds like Conrail

I have some strange recollection of a GP35 being repainted in Reading and then withdrawn.

Did Lehigh Valley also run GP35s?

Anyway, that is all a bit hazy!

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, May 4, 2007 2:52 PM
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Mega Merger sounds like Conrail
Mega Merger in the dollar amount not quantity of railroads.   The merger wasn't something like the Lousville & Wadley merging with the Wadley & Southern!  Much closer to the Conrail type.

I have some strange recollection of a GP35 being repainted in Reading and then withdrawn. ... Did Lehigh Valley also run GP35s?
Excellent thought process and might be true, but it is not the one I have in mind.

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Posted by SMassey on Friday, May 4, 2007 5:48 PM

Im going to give this one a try.

There is only one of me, but there are alot of my type.

I am powered with coal.

I used a marine type boiler that operated at 900 psi.

I did not travel far from the shops.

I could crush a caboose if I pushed it too hard.

I only ran for 3 years.

I may have spent more time with a mechanic than I did my engineer

 

Locomotive's road and # or the nic name

 

 

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Posted by twhite on Friday, May 4, 2007 6:00 PM
 SMassey wrote:

Im going to give this one a try.

There is only one of me, but there are alot of my type.

I am powered with coal.

I used a marine type boiler that operated at 900 psi.

I did not travel far from the shops.

I could crush a caboose if I pushed it too hard.

I only ran for 3 years.

I may have spent more time with a mechanic than I did my engineer

 

Locomotive's road and # or the nic name

 

 

 

SMassey--

Your name isn't "Jawn Henry", is it?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, May 4, 2007 6:12 PM
 SMassey wrote:

Im going to give this one a try.

There is only one of me, but there are alot of my type.

I am powered with coal.

I used a marine type boiler that operated at 900 psi.

I did not travel far from the shops.

I could crush a caboose if I pushed it too hard.

I only ran for 3 years.

I may have spent more time with a mechanic than I did my engineer

 

Locomotive's road and # or the nic name

 

 

This one: http://www.skyrocket.de/locomotive/img/nw_te1_2300e.jpg

N&W #2300 "Jawn Henry".

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, May 4, 2007 6:18 PM
 Texas Zepher wrote:
 M636C wrote:
Mega Merger sounds like Conrail
Mega Merger in the dollar amount not quantity of railroads.   The merger wasn't something like the Lousville & Wadley merging with the Wadley & Southern!  Much closer to the Conrail type.

I have some strange recollection of a GP35 being repainted in Reading and then withdrawn. ... Did Lehigh Valley also run GP35s?
Excellent thought process and might be true, but it is not the one I have in mind.

This one?: http://atsf.railfan.net/cowls/bnsf6550a.jpg

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Posted by SMassey on Friday, May 4, 2007 7:43 PM
andrechapelon and Twhite you are right on the money.  Was that one too easy?

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, May 4, 2007 10:33 PM
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andrechapelon and Twhite you are right on the money.  Was that one too easy?
Could we finish one before we start the next!?!
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Posted by twhite on Friday, May 4, 2007 10:45 PM

 Texas Zepher wrote:
 SMassey wrote:
andrechapelon and Twhite you are right on the money.  Was that one too easy?
Could we finish one before we start the next!?!

 

You're right, we should.  But I think you're talking about a diesel, and I don't know anything about diesels, LOL!

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, May 4, 2007 11:19 PM
Yes it is a diesel.

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