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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:38 PM
I agree with Daniel. That or the PRR S-1.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:13 PM
I considered the S-1, but there was only one, and bigboy4884 seems to imply plural locomotives.
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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

I'll give it a go.

I'm a big passenger steam locomotive, with a very long rigid wheel base.

I pulled crack trains at high speeds, mostly in the eastern half of the United States.

I was built by my own RR, along with my sisters, as somewhat of an experiment.

Unfortunantly, my type didn't have what it took to compete with the diesel and we were all gone by 1954.

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Other people have identified it correctly as the Pennsy T-1.

So here's another one for you.

I am the largest of my type ever built. I hauled passenger trains in the Midwest. There were only 3 of my class and we were built by ALCO in 1930.

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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, November 22, 2004 7:55 PM
I'm stumped. Can we get another clue?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Monday, November 22, 2004 8:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

I'm stumped. Can we get another clue?


I had 239 smaller sisters in 4 classes.

Need more?

Andre

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2004 10:51 PM
Chicago and Northwestern class E-3 4-6-2 Pacifics
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Posted by andrechapelon on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:35 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainjunky29

Chicago and Northwestern class E-3 4-6-2 Pacifics


You got it.

It's your turn.

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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:17 PM
No wonder i couldn't find it. I didn't even concider it to be a 4-6-2 cause I thought the PRR K5 was the largest Pacific. That CNW E3 was heavier or somthing?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

No wonder i couldn't find it. I didn't even concider it to be a 4-6-2 cause I thought the PRR K5 was the largest Pacific. That CNW E3 was heavier or somthing?


The PRR K-5 weighed 328,000 lbs. The C&NW E-3 weighed 347,000 lbs, only 1,000 lbs less that Rutland's L-1 4-8-2's and UP's MT-73 4-8-2's which were middle-weights in the 4-8-2 category.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:33 PM
I'll try to make this one hard:

My railroad ordered hundreds of my type, but there were only twelve of us. I am the fifth of my class. I had 63 inch drivers, and cylinders 22 inches in diameter.
Hint: I am not an SP AC, MC, or MM; a UP MK; or an N&W A or Y.

Class, wheel arrangement, and number please.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainjunky29

I'll try to make this one hard:

My railroad ordered hundreds of my type, but there were only twelve of us. I am the fifth of my class. I had 63 inch drivers, and cylinders 22 inches in diameter.
Hint: I am not an SP AC, MC, or MM; a UP MK; or an N&W A or Y.

Class, wheel arrangement, and number please.

Good luck,
Daniel Parks


Well, if that's all the info we get, then it could a T-29 4-6-0 of SP subsidiary T&NO. There were 12 built with 63" drivers as class T-28 ( all equipped with 22x28 cylinders). The class was changed to T-29 when the engines had 69" drivers applied. The engine numbers were 388-399. The 5th engine in the series would have been #392. Espee had a total of 651 4-6-0's on its roster at one time or another.

By your criteria, SP(T&NO) #392 qualifies. Whether or not it's the engine you were thinking of, I don't know.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 25, 2004 1:33 PM
Dear Andre,
The locomotive I had in mind was an SP AM-2 Cab-Forward. However, as the locomotive you came up with met all of my criteria, and it is my fault for being overly vague, I am forced to accept your answer.

Your turn.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, November 25, 2004 2:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainjunky29

Dear Andre,
The locomotive I had in mind was an SP AM-2 Cab-Forward. However, as the locomotive you came up with met all of my criteria, and it is my fault for being overly vague, I am forced to accept your answer.

Your turn.

Sincerely,
Daniel Parks


HA! At least it was an SP engine.

Actually, you're not forced to accept my answer at all, but what the heck?

I was the last of my in service on my railroad's Pacific Lines. There's a picture of me in a well known book on my railroad. I served west of the Sierras.

What am I?

Happy Thanksgiving.

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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, November 25, 2004 5:06 PM
Southern Pacific AC-11 #4274?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, November 25, 2004 5:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Southern Pacific AC-11 #4274?



You got the railroad right, but not the engine. Apparently I was a bit vague.

I also am of a wheel arrangement long considered obsolete.

Andre

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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, November 25, 2004 7:44 PM
4-6-0 #2301?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 25, 2004 8:16 PM
Or possibly one of SP's 2-6-0's?
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Posted by andrechapelon on Thursday, November 25, 2004 11:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainjunky29

Or possibly one of SP's 2-6-0's?


No, but I used the same boiler as one class of 2-6-0's.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 10:51 AM
An SP 2-8-0?
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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, November 26, 2004 12:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

An SP 2-8-0?


Nope.

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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, November 26, 2004 3:18 PM
4-6-0 #2375?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 3:42 PM
One of those 4-8-0s?
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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, November 26, 2004 5:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

4-6-0 #2375?


Nope.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, November 26, 2004 5:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BoRockhard

One of those 4-8-0s?


No.

Answer is SP second #1502 an E-23 4-4-0. Built in 1900 as #1105, renumbered in 1901 during the general renumbering to # 1445 and renumbered again in 1938 to #1502. There are two pictures of the engine on page 65 of Dunscomb's "A Century Of Southern Pacific Steam Locomotives". 2nd #1502 was scrapped in 1951 and was the last active 4-4-0 on the Pacific Lines of the SP.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 6:48 PM
three truck shay?
two truck shay?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 6:49 PM
three truck shay?
two truck shay?
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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, November 26, 2004 11:06 PM
We were the first real members of our type. I was the first in my batch of 15. All my sisters are dead. I specifically was revived and hauled a famous excursion train in the '70s.


Road number, class, type, railroad.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, November 26, 2004 11:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

We were the first real members of our type. I was the first in my batch of 15. All my sisters are dead. I specifically was revived and hauled a famous excursion train in the '70s.


Road number, class, type, railroad.


Texas & Pacific I-1a 2-10-4 #610. Reconditioned to be one of the 3 locomotives handling the "American Freedom Train".

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:32 AM
Clues
1.) I appeared mid 19th century
2.) I served in the Rockies and the west coast of the U.S
3.) I replaced a popular older engine because more power was needed
4.) The Rio Grande used me to serve the abundant timber, coal, silver and gold regions of the Colorado Mountains.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:22 PM
ok, too hard huh? this clue will give it away but...

I was commonly called a 10-wheeler

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