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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Monday, November 8, 2004 10:31 PM
a rivet counter. [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 6:31 PM
To Aggro's question:

A EsPee cab-forward?
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Posted by andrechapelon on Tuesday, November 9, 2004 8:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cjm89

To Aggro's question:

A EsPee cab-forward?


Naw, Espee's cab-forwards were Baldwin built.

It's the NP Z-8 4-6-6-4. ALCO built 2 for the SP&S

Andre - Back in the saddle after a transcontinental road trip.

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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:45 PM
Of course. The unstoppable Chapelon.

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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:18 PM
I'll just go again.

This engine has one of the highest boiler pressures of any piston driven steamer. She was fast enough to move the varnish, but typically given fast freight. It could be considered the ultimate in its wheel type. One example still exist.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

I'll just go again.

This engine has one of the highest boiler pressures of any piston driven steamer. She was fast enough to move the varnish, but typically given fast freight. It could be considered the ultimate in its wheel type. One example still exist.




Process of elimination.

Boiler pressure would have to be 300 PSI or better to qualify.

Can't be a Santa Fe 2-10-4 as multiple engines still exist (including "Madame Queen").

Neither can it be a KCS 2-10-4 as all 10 were scrapped.

The above are the only 2-10-4's with a BP in excess of 300 PSI.

It's not a UP Big Boy as multiple copies exist.

It's not a Challenger as all of them had boiler pressures < 300 PSI.

Damn, it's a N&W class A 2-6-6-4.

Only one I can think of that qualifies anyhow.

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Posted by M636C on Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:28 PM
Baldwin 60000 might qualify, if there's a "best" in 4-10-2s!

There isn't much to suggest that it could run passenger, but boy, it had boiler pressure!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 14, 2004 2:15 AM
With nobody guessing in many hours, how 'bout the answer......
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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, November 14, 2004 3:53 PM
This engine has one of the highest boiler pressures of any piston driven steamer. She was fast enough to move the varnish, but typically given fast freight. It could be considered the ultimate in its wheel type. One example still exist.
(I was refering to the one downtown at the old SP shops, I forgot there more)

It has 2 HUGE cylinders and burned oil supplied by one of the largest tenders ever.

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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, November 14, 2004 3:55 PM
Andre, the A class does fit that description almost perfectly.

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Posted by M636C on Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:10 PM
The last big two cylinder locomotives were the SP 2-10-2s in the 5000 series.

4-10-2s and 4-12-2s were all three cylinder.

They were used as passenger locomotives on the mountains before the simple articulateds arrived.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

This engine has one of the highest boiler pressures of any piston driven steamer. She was fast enough to move the varnish, but typically given fast freight. It could be considered the ultimate in its wheel type. One example still exist.
(I was refering to the one downtown at the old SP shops, I forgot there more)

It has 2 HUGE cylinders and burned oil supplied by one of the largest tenders ever.



SF 2-10-4.


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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:47 PM
Yes Andre, the Santa Fe 5011 class. Boiler pressure 310.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 15, 2004 4:35 AM
Here is a new one for you all. I'll post the answer very late Monday evening/ Tuesday AM....
You might say I'm narrow minded.....I have 2 sisters, but one has different valve gear than we other 2 . My number is larger than than my sister that has the same type valve gear. We all 3 still exist today, but none of us run. Gene Autry drove me in 1952. Our tenders have something in common with a 'blue', sperm', and 'orca'

Ok, I hope this isn't too many hints...See you here in 24 hours
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Posted by GDRMCo on Monday, November 15, 2004 4:42 AM
I'll do one too. This one is for you diesel fans. I have a 16-_______-T2 engine. I have 157,000 lbs continuous TE 191,000 lbs starting TE 106,000 lbs braking effort. I have H_______C ______less Trucks.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Monday, November 15, 2004 3:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Jennifer RR

Here is a new one for you all. I'll post the answer very late Monday evening/ Tuesday AM....
You might say I'm narrow minded.....I have 2 sisters, but one has different valve gear than we other 2 . My number is larger than than my sister that has the same type valve gear. We all 3 still exist today, but none of us run. Gene Autry drove me in 1952. Our tenders have something in common with a 'blue', sperm', and 'orca'

Ok, I hope this isn't too many hints...See you here in 24 hours
Jennifer



Sounds like SP's narrow gauge 4-6-0's. One of them had Walschaert's gear. #9 is displayed in Laws, CA, IIRC, and has Stephenson valve gear as does sister #8. SP #18 is the 4-6-0 with Walschaerts.

The answer is SP 4-6-0 #9.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Monday, November 15, 2004 3:51 PM
Here's a really easy one.

I'm the smallest standard gauge engine of my type ever built. I am still operational, although I am a number of miles north of where I originally ran.

What am I?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 15, 2004 10:53 PM
Hmmm.
3985? Just kidding [:)]!

Could it be the NP Minetonka?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:35 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainjunky29

Hmmm.
3985? Just kidding [:)]!

Could it be the NP Minetonka?

-Daniel Parks


Nope. More wheels, 8 more.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:25 AM
WOW, Andre is on top of things! He is correct, the 'narrow minded' loco is indeed SPNG Number 9. All 3 locos pulled 'whaleback' sstyle tenders, hence the hint of 'types of whales'. During 1952 or possibly 1953, Gene Autry's Flying A production company went to Keeler to film some episodes of 'The Gene Autry Show". So far I have found 2 of them filmed in Keeler . We see he and his sidekick Pat Buttram chase down the bad guys. In one episode, Gene takes the throttle on number 9 to stop the runaway train. Several cars are detailed in shots of fights on gondola, flat and box cars. Several additional scenes are shot by the ground level, track side end of the station.. This side of the station is widely photographed. Once scene has Gene chasing a bad guy up on the roof, and we see some glimpse of the rarely photographed 'rear side' of the station. The film crew did some quick coverups...A propane tank near the agent's door gets a heavy canvas cover over it, as does the ground level swamp cooler around the corner from the same door. Pat Buttram gets 'carried away' on a fake mail hook mounted on caboose 401 at the conclusion of the show. According to Gerald Bests book, and Ferrells book too, 401 had its roof clipped in late 52 or in 53, The shows were made just to the roof modifications. I have discovered at a Gene Autry webside that Flying A Productions also shot a number of Annie Oakley shows in Keeler. Once the home of 5000 residents, in the 1880s, Keeler is today almost a ghost town, with about 60 residents living in the area. There is a report thqt as of 1998, the former Depot was still in decent shape, and being used as a private residence. Detailers note: In several of the shots we see the rear of the cab of #9, fireman's side. Clearly shown is a safery plackard urging the use of caution not to fall from the train. I have never seen this plackard in any still shots of 8, 9 or 18...Never saw a photo from an angle that would show it, except one. This single still is from a period long after 9 was retired, and clearly shows the 'outline in filth' where that plackard had been removed...probably stolen by a railfan. I plan on making a facsimile of the plackard and an O scale minature of it to mount on my SPNG 18 after she gets painted.
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Posted by joseph2 on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:46 AM
Gene Autry was nicknamed the singing brakeman,I like his music.I think the steam locomotive is the Little River RR 4-6-2,the smallest Pacific built.Was originaly used in Tennessee,is now in Michigan.If this is the right answer,anyone else may ask the next steam question. Joe G.
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Posted by andrechapelon on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:37 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joseph2

Gene Autry was nicknamed the singing brakeman,I like his music.I think the steam locomotive is the Little River RR 4-6-2,the smallest Pacific built.Was originaly used in Tennessee,is now in Michigan.If this is the right answer,anyone else may ask the next steam question. Joe G.


Little River 4-6-2 #110 is the correct answer.

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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GDRMCo

I'll do one too. This one is for you diesel fans. I have a 16-_______-T2 engine. I have 157,000 lbs continuous TE 191,000 lbs starting TE 106,000 lbs braking effort. I have H_______C ______less Trucks.


Some giant stinking powered boxcar? [:p]

Uhhhhhh.....a DD-40AX?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:26 PM
I guess I'll go....

And it'll be hard:
I have the longest rigid wheelbase for a nonarticulated passenger locomotive.
Of my wheel arrangement for my railroad, there are two other classes with survivors.

Good luck!

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Posted by andrechapelon on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:02 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

QUOTE: Originally posted by GDRMCo

I'll do one too. This one is for you diesel fans. I have a 16-_______-T2 engine. I have 157,000 lbs continuous TE 191,000 lbs starting TE 106,000 lbs braking effort. I have H_______C ______less Trucks.


Some giant stinking powered boxcar? [:p]

Uhhhhhh.....a DD-40AX?


Naw, a DD-40AX has 2 engines (645's).

Sounds like he's talking about an SD-90MAC.

But then, I'm a steam man. I could be wrong.

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Posted by GDRMCo on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:04 AM
Nope its a SD70ACe you dills check out GMEMD.com

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Posted by andrechapelon on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainjunky29

I guess I'll go....

And it'll be hard:
I have the longest rigid wheelbase for a nonarticulated passenger locomotive.
Of my wheel arrangement for my railroad, there are two other classes with survivors.

Good luck!

-Daniel Parks


Why hard? The largest nonarticulated locos generally assigned to passenger service were 4-8-4's (except for Canadian Pacific 2-10-4's and they don't count because there are only 2 survivors). The largest (and with a long rigid wheelbase) 4-8-4's generally had 80" drivers. Of the known 4-8-4 survivors, outside of GN S-2 #2584 (on display in Havre, MT), only the Santa Fe, UP and SP 4449 had 80" drivers. Furthermore, these railroads had multiple classes of 4-8-4's.

The engine you're talking about is a 2900 class ATSF 4-8-4. There are surviving samples of 3 classes of SF 4-8-4's, the 3751, 3765 and 2900 classes.

Well, actually, IIRC, the 3765, 3776 and 2900 classes all had the same rigid wheelbase.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:27 PM
Well, you got it!

(Next time....)

Have fun[:)][:D]!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:20 PM
I'll give it a go.

I'm a big passenger steam locomotive, with a very long rigid wheel base.

I pulled crack trains at high speeds, mostly in the eastern half of the United States.

I was built by my own RR, along with my sisters, as somewhat of an experiment.

Unfortunantly, my type didn't have what it took to compete with the diesel and we were all gone by 1954.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:47 PM
PRR T1 4-4-4-4

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