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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Friday, March 7, 2008 8:19 PM
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New Haven I-5,

It would really help the dial-up guys if you would edit your quotes down to just the part your quoting and remove the pictures too.  It kills the load times if you're on dial-up.....Thanks Buddy!  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Okay, I'll do that next time.

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Posted by sleeper33 on Friday, March 7, 2008 8:20 PM

New Haven

 How you enjoying the diner?

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, March 7, 2008 9:06 PM

Yes it would mean another move. we realized this was a big mistake and a long story of why we came here. 

 The email said it was being forward to the hiring agencey well I got a phone call from the head of food service there at the va this evening at work and set up a phone interview with her for wed morning. Big Smile [:D] her idea for phone interview .

This could really be a plus for me if I got it when I came to retiring time.

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

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Posted by sleeper33 on Friday, March 7, 2008 9:28 PM

 good luck

 my fingers are crossed for you

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, March 7, 2008 9:57 PM

Tom: That's really sad news and I'm sorry to learn about it. prayers to her family and friends.

Jeff: I hope your eye exams had good results.

Paul .... Glad John is doing better.

Phillip.... Also, glad to learn Mrs PC is doung better.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:08 PM

Good Evening All,

    Through the magic of magic my home computer has healed itself and decided to open pages here at EllIotts. I have no idea why but I'm not one to quibble. Got home late, got packed for the trip to Sebring and decided it was as good a time as any to run trains. Yes that's right - run trains. That is why i built a layout isn't it? The track was a bit troublesome in places where it's been un touched in months, but all in all it ran quite well thank you. Ran my M1A as a passenger train and my RS11 (DL-701 for us New Haven fans) to practice switching sidings. The DCC worked as advertised as well without any smoke getting out (no Lucas parts in there Eh?). How many of us get so caught up in buildings and details that we forget the trains? I know, I know, not you Jeffy. Of course I had proved all the sections as I built them, but this the first time since a lot of revisions that I ran the majority of what I've built so far. How cool is that?

   PC - good to hear that the CFO is doing well. Rob - hope yours can sleep through and maybe that will help your insomnia thing. And Gavin - I hope your working the mid watch as with a five hour difference it's - gasp 4am GMT. At any rate I hope your houligans calm down or at least get shore leave for the weekend. And lets hope they don't think to flush all the toilets at once (synchronised with stop watches, the effect was devastating at Syracuse University a while ago - nuclear water hammer).

Tom - that is tragic news. Our prayers for the family and Paul our prayers for your friend as well.

RT - if the interview is by phone and you get the job, can you then mail in the performance? Enough, enough - I can see I'm getting silly - must be time to retire but I do need to wait until son the youngest returns from his friends house (and after all he did borrow my car to go).

Catch y'all later.   J.R.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:16 PM

Tom: That's really sad news and I'm sorry to learn about it. prayers to her family and friends.

Jeff: I hope your eye exams had good results.

Paul .... Glad John is doing better.

Phillip.... Also, glad to learn Mrs PC is doung better.

***Sign - Ditto [#ditto] everything Garry just said.

There is a SNOW Advisory here. I'll believe it when I see it.  

Well, pretty much decided to turn my heavy train table into a new Router table. Next time I'm out I'll pick up a hoolw core door instead. Besides the weight difference, if I ever wish to expand the layout, it will be easier to match up a second door. That's settled.

I ventured out into the BIG FORUM and found a thread on table size layouts. Found this posted link interesting: http://www.naisp.net/mfischer/m_train2.htm#othrplan I must admit, after looking at that table I built, it sure seems small to do very much with it. Then again, better I start small and START period. My trains are getting mad at me...ready to hit the rails and no where to go. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

 

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Posted by sleeper33 on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:27 PM

 Hi J.R

They've all calmed down now thank god! They havn't done the atomic water thing yet and I HOPE they don't get to hear of it. We did have a couple of them kick out a part of the soil stack about 2 months ago but that was in there own flat so talk about doing it on your own doorstep ( in this case literately ) Got my test track set up on the desk behind me so am running my RS5 and a couple of tanks up and down, might try my sd40-2 tomorrow, as it hasn't had a run in a while, mind you none of my fleet hasDisapprove [V], oh well back to it.

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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:31 PM
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New Haven

 How you enjoying the diner?

Gav

Yes. I am!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:32 PM

Some of you guys were asking about my backdrops. Here's my experiences which were not all good.

I purchased faller's "Schwarzwald-Baar" backdrops when on sale in the Walthers monthly sale flyers. (I love deals.) In particular, I like the realistic sky of these backdrops.

The first panels of the backdrop were applied following Faller's instructions. That created my biggest problem with backdrops.  The directions said to use wallpaper paste, and that's what I did. I let those panels dry overnight, and returned to the trainroom the following morning.

It was horrible! The paper backdrops absorbed the waterbased wallpaper paste. Wrinkles and bubbles were everywhere on my new backdrop. I salvaged it by making a zillion slits with a razor blade, and then gluing the paper down at each slit. it was just terrible.

Next, I tried a cheap adhesive spray, and those sections fell off. Finally, the answer was good quality adhesive spray (3M #77). I spayed evenly over an entire surface on the backside of the paper backdrops. Then, I sprayed a little extra on each corner. Then I pressed the panels in place using care to avoid wrinkling or placing sideways, etc.

I modified much of the backdrop to be compatible with adjoining scenes. The pictures below illustrate.

The first two pictures show that I painted roads to match those on the layout. The roads on the layout near the backdrop are undersized to force perspective. Usually, I place trees to block the view of the transition of the road from the layout to the backdrop.

The last three pictures show the backdrop behind industries in Blackhawk. There is a section of real estate behind the main line that measures 2 inches x 8 feet (between the ice house and the far end of the brewery). I included a mix of building fronts from plastic kits (kitbashed) and paper buildings from Walthers. To the right of the brewery, there is more background space, and that includes downtown Blackhawk. The paper buildings are Walthers "Instant Buildings" and also I cut the sky off a Walthers "Instant Horizen" and glued it up. If you look above the GN FA1, you may see another road transitioning from layout to backdrop.

If you look in Week End Photo Fun, you may see a picture  I posted that shows the backdrop with pictures of buildings glued onto the backdrop. Those pictures were in old magazines and old calendars.  

Presently, I am working on another backdrop section that has a collage of photos glued onto the backgound.  The "glue" is actually the 3M spray adhesive.

When using the spray adhesive, please protect your lungs with a resperator.

 




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Posted by sleeper33 on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:32 PM

 New Haven

I came in just before you and havn't left yet. Garry nice backdropsThumbs Up [tup] wicked

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:47 PM
Hello Gav ........ thanks for the remark. I'll buy a tea for you if you like. It's getting late here, and we are having snow.  

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Posted by sleeper33 on Friday, March 7, 2008 11:06 PM

Garry

I'll have a tea with you thanks. Early morning over here and fine but going to blow a gale on sunday with scattered showers looking at 80 mph gusts / winds should be fun

Gav

P.S.

Cheque please girls. Off home to bed as it's 09:00hrs over here see you all tonight

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03-08-2008
Posted by wetidlerjr on Saturday, March 8, 2008 4:07 AM

Good Morning from Tipton IN ! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, March 8, 2008 5:18 AM
Good morning.

It's currently a very cool 36 degrees under cloudy skies. Expecting a high of 57 under partly cloudy skies this afternoon.

I'll be working at the shop today so I won't be doing much posting until later.

Today's Weather for:      
Sundown, LA  71446-6114      3/8/2008


Wind Chill:  32°F
Humidity:  81%
Dew Point:  32°F

So Far Today
High:  37°F
Low:  35°F
Rain:  0.00"
Rain Rate:  0.00"/h
Gust:  6mph W

Today    High: 58    Mostly sunny. Not as cool. Highs in the upper 50s. Light and variable winds.    

Tonight      Low: 35    Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds.


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Posted by pcarrell on Saturday, March 8, 2008 8:19 AM

Hey all!

Woke up this morning to a whiteout!  Heard a train running out on the CSX main though!

Nasty lookin' out there.  Might have to venture out and get some cool pics of trains in the snow!

Have to find time for homework too.  I'm not looking forward to that really, but it has to be done I suppose.

Tom, my condolences and prayers for those left behind.

Rob, be careful in using Mikes plans.  Many of them just don't work.  The one you've selected has some rather impossible grades.  Go under the bridge and towards the upper left and I think you'll see what I mean.  You have basically a single train length to gain enough height to clear the lower track.  And thats just the problem I spotted right off.  There's also so much track that there's no place for scenery hardly, but thats OK since it'd be hard to switch those industries in the middle with that run-around anyways.  Mad Mike is well known for making plans that often don't work in real life.  Sorry if I sound harsh, but I don't want you to use up your time and resources building something that you may not be happy with in the end.  You can build it if you want to, but I think you could probably do better in that space.  If you'd like you can look at some of the plans I've done in the past with and without other people, or we can work on one for you that will work.  There's also lots of plans out there that will fit a door (Dave Vollmers plan is quite nice).  So I take it you're going to go with Normal scale? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Oh well, I'm outta here!

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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Saturday, March 8, 2008 8:44 AM
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Nice PA! Is that a Athearn unit?

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Posted by pcarrell on Saturday, March 8, 2008 10:46 AM

Took this over at Anderson Yard (Anderson, Indiana) this morning.  Kinda says it all I think.........It's chilly out there!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Prototype%20Train%20Photos/SnowStorm3-8-08.jpg

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Posted by gear-jammer on Saturday, March 8, 2008 11:15 AM

I thought that I would stop by for coffee and an cinnamon roll.

Garry,  Great backdrop shots.  We have a section by our TT that we were just discussing a city backdrop to show the depth.  Your timing was perfect.

Thanks,  Sue

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, March 8, 2008 11:36 AM

 in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please & thank you.

***Garry, excellent job melding those backdrops with the layout. Also appreciate your tips on the process.

***Philip, understood and thanks for the warning. I have yet to find a plan I would not change at least a little anyway. I'm not sure if I would ever be satisfied with just one door size layout, so will make this first one with expansion in mind. And yes, I have ALWAYS been an N scaler. My wife has HO.

Saw a few snow flakes this morning, but not one of them stuck. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

 

 

 

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Posted by Flashwave on Saturday, March 8, 2008 1:02 PM
 pcarrell wrote:

Took this over at Anderson Yard (Anderson, Indiana) this morning.  Kinda says it all I think.........It's chilly out there!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Prototype%20Train%20Photos/SnowStorm3-8-08.jpg

And just to emphasize the magic of Indiana, as of now and a county or two over, there's almost nothing in the way of white stuff. Still cold as al getout though

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Posted by LSWrr on Saturday, March 8, 2008 1:08 PM

Afternoon,

So far we have an average of 18" of snow on the ground with about 2" an hour falling right now.  A few counties south of me a level 3 snow emergency has been declared (all streets closed).

I ran the snow blower in my driveway and did 3 driveways for the widows on my street so they could get their meals on wheels.  I called one of them and asked if they needed anything (you only have to ask one the others will find out in 5 minutes) I ran one to the drug store for an Rx refill.  I need to tell their kids to build a little set of steps to get them in and out of my truck.

RT, good luck with the phone interview.  I guess you don't have to worry about the suit and tie.

Tom, that's horrible, thoughts and prayers to her family!

Paul, believe it or not our Ice breaker here in Cleveland has been busy most of the year with runs to the upper Great Lakes and Canada.  Not much need down here except to help break ice to relieve flooding.

Worked on the L.S.& W late last night, but I have 5 sections assembled and wired, ready for paint and scenery.

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Posted by pcarrell on Saturday, March 8, 2008 2:10 PM
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***Philip, understood and thanks for the warning. I have yet to find a plan I would not change at least a little anyway. I'm not sure if I would ever be satisfied with just one door size layout, so will make this first one with expansion in mind.

It's always best to plan for that anyways. 

And yes, I have ALWAYS been an N scaler. My wife has HO.

Oh yeah, thats right.....I forgot!

If you don't mind, I'll throw in a couple of my plans in that size range and you can look them over.  They're all planned with Atlas RTS 7.0 and use the code 55 line of track, so they should work no problem.

Here's a door with an extention: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/mzungu4sceniced.jpg The grade is about 2.5% though, so just know that.

Here's one where the bridge crosses the modest yard, effectively dividing up the scene: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/mzungu.jpg Again, about 2.5% grade. (hard to get around on a smaller layout)

This is one of my favorites.  It just seems to work, and it has good features and expandability.  I did the scenery for the old west, but you could do it anywhere.  The grade is 1.5% and it's a 4'x8': http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/4X8NSCALEOLDWEST.jpg

This is a 7'x3.5' sized layout with no grade, but a viewblock through 3/4 of it.  It boasts a pretty healthy yard for it's size: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/Rob1Nscale.jpg

his is another flat one, this time it's 46.5"x84" and it again has a viewblock: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/46.jpg

This one is 81"x32.5" and has no grade.  It boasts a decent yard for it's size as well as a reversing section: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/81inx32.jpg

Here is an 81"x18" yard layout: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/8x1.jpg

Here is a 30"x8' layout that is for the guy with a good number of engines to show off: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/30inchx8footNscale-3.jpg

How about a 30"x70"? http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/30x70Nscale1.jpg

Lastly, this one went through a lot of development and it's not bad, but some more work might make it better: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/4x8Nscale-7.jpg  Not only does it have a mine on a hillside, but it has continuous running capability and it bosts a hidden fiddle yard in the back for staging!  The mine track goes up while the staging track goes down, so it effectively splits the grade so it's not as steep.  With scenery it might look something like this: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/4x8Nscale-1.jpg

Now if you could go larger, that opens up the possibilities a lot!  Then you casn look at things like this: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/Kevin.jpg or this one that was done in HO (imagine what it'd look like in N scale!): http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/pcarrell/Track%20Plans/southern4449s%20Plan/maybe2wpaint.jpg

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Posted by pcarrell on Saturday, March 8, 2008 2:32 PM
Oh, and Gerry, those backdrops are awesome!
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:11 PM
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 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:

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Nice PA! Is that a Athearn unit?
Negative. That's a stripped down Proto 2000.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:27 PM

 refill, please & thanks!

***Philip, thanks for the idea generation. I copied over a few of those into my layout file. I suppose sharing a few of my prefernces would be helpful.

1) Have the option of running at least 2 trains continuously without having to do anything at all(for kicking back in a recliner and watching trains run Whistling [:-^])

2) Must have grades winding up a mountain at one end. Won't go into detail here, but I really would like two actual levels to this small layout, and not necessairly connected unless I do a small helix of sorts, perhaps wrapping around the outside of a mountain. (note: I have one large, cool old tressel and one way or another, it is going to get incorporated into this layout)

3) A minimum switching area for the main industry (Soylent Green PlantDinner [dinner]). This will include the equivalent of a slaughter house with stock yard and processing facility.Pirate [oX)] So stock cars dropping off at one end of the Plant, refer cars picking up finished product from the other side. This will be the "working part" of my layout where I can enjoy doing some switching when so inclined.

The twist here is that instead of being set in the future (as in the movie), mine will be steam era.Laugh [(-D]

3) Switch yard & staging area to be added at a later date (along the lines of what Dave V added to his layout)

I'm more interested in scenery and running trains than switching & prototypical work. However, an extension to the table later on can allow for a little more operation. Also want to add a small roundhouse facility to store my locos at and be able to switch them out now and then. These are a few of my personal preferences. I don't want too much, do I?Big Smile [:D]

Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

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Posted by pcarrell on Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:48 PM

Rob,

And you want this all on a door?  Have you considered Z scale? Laugh [(-D]Blindfold [X-)]Black Eye [B)]

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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:52 PM
 pcarrell wrote:

Rob,

And you want this all on a door?  Have you considered Z scale? Laugh [(-D]Blindfold [X-)]Black Eye [B)]

PC, isn't Z scale expensive?

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Posted by Fergmiester on Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:52 PM

Good Afternoon this very wet and windy Saturday!

By the time it is over we will have had about 2" of rain, which given the alternative is a welcome blessing!

Anyway I'll take a big bowl of chicken soup please. Yes it's day 5 of the flu and I'm just coming out of the worst of it!

Spent the better part of the day trying to hook up the sanding tower to the Coaling tower and I finally after several hours of routing, tinkering, scratching have figured what i am doing ...I think.

Cheese: making very good progress much better than my progress of late. might have to get you to give me a hand.

Dick: I'm way ahead of you as most of the painting is done but not complete unfortunately. Still the main hallway and kitchen left and due t how i've felt it went on hold. Maybe tomorrow... maybe!

Der John:  As always impressive work, maybe, just maybe I may get up to see it one of these days. I had a call from George the other day asking if I'd work the Train show this month I had to decline as I am  back to work Wednesday. Yes that's right back to St John's to bring the Hudson home.

Tom: sorry for the loss a real shame to see these kind of things happen to young promising lives. 

Jeff: You seem to be unwavering when it comes to progress I just wish I had that kind of drive these days. 

Ryan: love the Roundhouse! Love the food too good thing it's virtual as I'd never be able to haul myself away from the table if I was in arms reach.  

Anyway guys everyone take care

 

Lter Alll

Fergie 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:57 PM

What's the big deal?

One mountain area with One tressel.

One plant complex.

Two mains.

Sounds simple enough when put that way, does it not?

Big Smile [:D] Rob

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