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What single locomotive do you want that hasn't been produced or announced yet?

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Posted by nfmisso on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

Bowser makes a Arrow train.

Wrong train; the original poster was referring to the RDC that NYC modified and added a pair of jet engines, from a B-36. See Mainline Modeler March 1988

You are thinking of the Aero Train. http://www.bowser-trains.com/hoemrrs/aerotrain/aerotrain.htm

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QUOTE:
New York Central RDC3 #M497

The New York Central's jet RDC RDC3 #M497, set the US speed record at 183.681 mph in 1966, running in a publicity-stunt-***-experimental run between Butler, IN and Stryker, OH. The September issue of Smithsonian's Invention and Technology mag (right in the back) has more about the jet tests. The only practical result of this car was the jet snowblower now used in Buffalo.

So, here's the US rail speed records, as best as I can tell:

183.85 mph jet-RDC July 24, 1966
183.681 mph jet-RDC 1966
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Posted by nfmisso on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by flyingscot

-C&O Simple Simon (forgot the wheel arrangement)

Class H-7 2-8-8-2
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Posted by nfmisso on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

That one jet powered Arrow train (the one that looked like a jet plane(made by GM?))

NYC made it, the jet engines were from a B36. See article in Mainline Modeler.
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Posted by nfmisso on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

An early E unit. An E3 would probably be best for commercial reasons - there's more than one potential roadname. An E5 would also be very nice, although only the CB&Q had these. I'd suggest a Proto 1000 level E3 as an ideal candidate for a new model.

RB; there is practically no external difference between the E3, E4 and E6. See articles in MRG on detailing a SAL E4 in the citrus scheme.
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Posted by dehusman on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:27 PM
Reading I-9sc 2-8-0 or I-8 camelback 2-8-0. Yeah the T-1 Northern is sexier but the consols were everywhere and did everything.

A 56" driver 2-8-0 with a 60-65" diameter straight boiler (BLW).

A pre WW1 4-4-0. We have several makes of 1860-1870 era Americans, but nothing from the 1890's to 1910's. Probably the most mass produced wheel arrangement in history and totally ignored.

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Posted by joseph2 on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:17 PM
I live near Lima,Ohio and would like to see a Lima Diesel finally be built.Like a 2400 HP centercab transfer unit.
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Posted by tomwatkins on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:17 PM
An accurate Southern Railway Ps-4 Heavy Pacific. They are close to a USRA Heavy but with enough differences to make a difficult conversion to do accurately. And they are beautiful locomotives.
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Posted by GDRMCo on Monday, January 26, 2004 7:08 PM
i would like:
a QR tilt train
SD70ACe
SD70M flared
SD70MAC flared
DD45

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 6:32 PM
C39-8 with standard cab. Not necessarily because these were particularly great engines. I am trying to get a model of every type of NS locomotive that I worked on during my employment with them. This is one of the few diesels that you can spot a mile away due to the "shrug-shouldered" appearance caused by the standard cab roof line.
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Posted by dharmon on Monday, January 26, 2004 6:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by badasscat

HO, SDP40F in Amtrak bloody nose colors.

Athearn makes an FP-45, which is the closest thing, but not quite the same (I've read it's possible to convert it to an SDP40F, but wouldn't be at all easy for me). I have found an unpainted shell that fits the Athearn FP-45, but I'd rather have RTR as my painting skills are not the best. At least one company seems to make this loco in N scale, but I need HO.

This is the locomotive I remember most from my youth, when I first started riding long distance trains. I'd love to model a 1970's era Amtrak train just as I remember it but it's impossible without an SDP40F. (I can use other 70's-era locos, but it's just not as I remember it.)



I agree an SDP40F or SDF40-2 would be great. Gem imported pointed nose one in Brass many years ago, but it is not a great looking model and lacks alot of the detail one would expect for the price. I recently completed a SDF40-2 from an Athearn FP45 and it was a fair amount of work. Probably wouldn't pass the rivet counter test, but it is good enough for me. I have seen the resin shell, but I prefer the flat nose versions of the second batch ordered. Its too bad RPP didn't do a shell before they were absorbed into Athearn. It would be great for P2K or Kato to do one, because they could do Amtrak (bloody nose and cigar band), Santa Fe (before they notched the noses), and Metra F40Cs using pretty much the same shell.
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Monday, January 26, 2004 6:13 PM
From the plastic locomotive manufacturers ,in HO, I would like to see ATSF's "Amos n Andy" set, also called the 1-spot that was rebuilt and painted in warbonnet colors in the Topeka, KS shops in 1938. The most noticeable rebuilt features were the reconfiguring of the front ends with elevated cabs and a curved sheet metal nose giving it a bulldoggish look. Six axles replaced the original four. There were no other locomotives like them [^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 6:06 PM
I would love to see anything Santa Fe in the Steam/Diesel era. But I would really like to see a 2-10-2 a 4-12-2 and some RTR SD40T-2's!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 5:56 PM
HO, SDP40F in Amtrak bloody nose colors.

Athearn makes an FP-45, which is the closest thing, but not quite the same (I've read it's possible to convert it to an SDP40F, but wouldn't be at all easy for me). I have found an unpainted shell that fits the Athearn FP-45, but I'd rather have RTR as my painting skills are not the best. At least one company seems to make this loco in N scale, but I need HO.

This is the locomotive I remember most from my youth, when I first started riding long distance trains. I'd love to model a 1970's era Amtrak train just as I remember it but it's impossible without an SDP40F. (I can use other 70's-era locos, but it's just not as I remember it.)
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 5:47 PM
In N-scale: an Alco T-6 switcher (I have made an attempt to kitbash one from an Arnold S-2)
Also, high-nosed U-Boats (yay Atlas for the B23-7, now give us more early GE's!)

And, though I wouldn't have a use for it, I think a Little Joe electric would be kewl.
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Posted by CP5415 on Monday, January 26, 2004 5:47 PM
I'm not sure if this had ever been produced, but a CP Montreal Locomotive Works RSD-17 "Empress of Agincourt" [^]

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Posted by tankertoad70 on Monday, January 26, 2004 5:42 PM
GP39-2[:D][:p]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 5:40 PM
A Canadian National non-streamlined 4-8-4 with Elesco Feedwater tank. with Vanderbilt tender. In total CN had more Northerns than any other RR in North America, a total of 203.

If you can't build that then I'll settle for a CP Royal Hudson.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 5:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy



UP Gas Turbine (already out?)
That one jet powered Arrow train (the one that looked like a jet plane(made by GM?))
Modernized 4-4-0 (from the 30's)




Lionel is going to make a turbine (way own of your price range). Bowser makes a Arrow train. IHC make a 1900-1920 4-4-0. Hope this helps.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 5:22 PM
I've got a few: (in plastic of course)
-E1
-E2
-Porter 0-4-0
-M-10000
-C&O Simple Simon (forgot the wheel arrangement)
-UP 4-12-2
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Posted by Jacktal on Monday, January 26, 2004 4:49 PM
Any of these in "N" scale:Big Boy(top choice) and/or Challenger and/or Allegheny in plastic for my layout museum and occasional running.Also would like the Centipede 'cause I really love unique and BIG engines.Don't know of any available though...........
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 4:47 PM
I'd like to see:
HO
M-10000 (already out?)
UP 3 unit Gas Turbine
A plastic 4-12-2
A streamlined UP/C&NW 4-8-2, used to haul the Overland Limited
A GTW U3a/b 4-8-4
A Pere Marquette 2-8-4 without silver wheels! (what was P2K thinking!?[:0])
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 4:46 PM
A SD50 that will be made for a long time! The PK2 and Athearn RTR are very limited run.
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Posted by Jetrock on Monday, January 26, 2004 4:37 PM
An HOn3 "gypsy" 0-4-0 logging engine, like the "Falk" Heck, even a resin casting to go over an N scale 0-4-0 would work...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 4:35 PM
An early E unit. An E3 would probably be best for commercial reasons - there's more than one potential roadname. An E5 would also be very nice, although only the CB&Q had these. I'd suggest a Proto 1000 level E3 as an ideal candidate for a new model.
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Posted by cbq9911a on Monday, January 26, 2004 4:32 PM
A Baldwin Russian Decapod with the air pumps on the pilot beam, like Frisco 1630 at the Illinois Railway Museum. (The Bachmann Spectrum Russian Decapod is an Alco with the air pumps on the boiler side.)
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Posted by AltonFan on Monday, January 26, 2004 3:32 PM
Ray: dittoes!

I would like to see, in N scale:

a 2-10-4, either based on Chicago Great Western or Kansas City Southern prototype.
a heavy, later, 2-6-0, of the kind used by Southern Pacific and the Green Bay & Western.

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Posted by nfmisso on Monday, January 26, 2004 3:29 PM
Any eight-coupled steam locomotive with 56" to 58" drivers, a N&W M or M2 would be perfect. [:D][:D]

Second, a N&W Y5 or Y6/Y6a (the Y6b does not count).
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Posted by nfmisso on Monday, January 26, 2004 3:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

NYC H-5 class 2-8-2: possibly the second most popular mike built after the USRA light. Several hundred were built before WWI and USRA control. The engine was used by the NYC, NKP, CCC&StL, P&E, MC, Georgia RR, and at least three other shortlines in the south, making the engine worthwhile for any manufacturer to produce (there were more of the H-5's made than any USRA engine besides the light mikes).

Hi Ray;

Hasn't this been announced by Trix ?
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Posted by orsonroy on Monday, January 26, 2004 3:23 PM
I've got several, actually, all steam, and all in plastic (sound-equiped preferably!):

NYC H-5 class 2-8-2: possibly the second most popular mike built after the USRA light. Several hundred were built before WWI and USRA control. The engine was used by the NYC, NKP, CCC&StL, P&E, MC, Georgia RR, and at least three other shortlines in the south, making the engine worthwhile for any manufacturer to produce (there were more of the H-5's made than any USRA engine besides the light mikes).

IC/Harriman 2-8-2: the Illinois Central had over 600 mikados, which was a larger number of engines than most roads entire roster! Although these engines were rebuilt several times and started to take on their own personalities and looks, the basic Paducah mike could easily be created in plastic, and re-detailed (like what Bachmann or Life Like do now with new steam) to represent Harriman Mikes from several roads, including the UP, Rock Island and Alton.

Post-WWI modernized "generic" 4-4-0: Americans held on in most parts of the country until the Depression and WWII, and looked nothing like any 4-4-0 currently on the market (the IHC 4-4-0 is a SP-based bastardization). With most steam modelers looking for small steam, this engine should be a shoo-in for Bachmann.

Harriman 4-4-2: just like the IC Mike, the Harriman 4-4-2 was used by almost a dozen roads, and was used until the beginning of WWII. Another well-travelled, but not USRA, steam engine.

Harriman 4-6-2: see a trend yet? The Harriman cartel of railroads was the first attempt of real standardization in RR motive power, and probably paved the way for the USRA engines. The Harriman 4-6-2 is a much smaller pacific than the USRA light, so it'd be a different model that what we usually get.

All of the above engines are pre-WWI prototypes, and represent solid pre-USRA and pre-superpower steam designs. None of these engines are oddballs or single-road specific, yet none of the plastic manufacturers have ever given these engines any serious thought, instead trotting out yet another USRA engine. With all these engines made, it would be quite easy for modelers to backdate to a 1910-1930 era layout ("the Golden Age" of railroading)

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, January 26, 2004 3:20 PM
How 'bout the never built Nuclear Powered engine the Dept of Energy designed back in the 50's, that would look really cool on a period layout...

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