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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, December 24, 2007 10:00 PM
RT, thats terrible!  Oh man....at least no one was hurt.....were they?  I hope you can get that replaced quickly and it had best not cost you anything.  Oh, and I hope the house is OK!  Not a fun way to spend Christmas....crawling around under a house.
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Posted by Cox 47 on Monday, December 24, 2007 10:37 PM
Merry Christmas from Sallie and Jerry.......
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Posted by philnrunt on Monday, December 24, 2007 11:03 PM

   Merry Christmas to each and everyone!

    Here in Indiana, it is 12:05, Dec 25th, so it is officially the big day here.

   Quiet in the diner tonight, I see, even the trains have stopped in honor of the day. Glad the diner stays open so those working have a place to relax, watch the world go by and spend time with good people.

   Sure hope all of you have a great day today, and that the new year brings happiness and prosperity to all.

  

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Posted by Canondale61 on Monday, December 24, 2007 11:04 PM

Merry Christmas to all from my family to yours.

 

Hope this day finds every one well and prayers go out to all on sick call.Angel [angel]

RT hope no one was hurt in that mess.

Paul hope your newest addition is still improving and wait to next year!!

PC hope your wife continues to improve.

 

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Posted by eeyore9900 on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:38 AM

Evening folks-dropping in for a few-Merry Christmas!

Just a quiet evening here-Dawn had to work earlier this evening, & will have to put a few in tomorrow midday. Not much planned tomorrow-just to head to my parents', & that's about it. I got Dawn some gift certificates for our local craft store for her beadwork, even though she considers the fact that I'd already got her Christmas present in September. (our house)

RT-wow-hopefully everyone's ok, & things can get straightened around quickly. Your porch (well, what's left of it) looks an awful lot like the one Dawn had on her mobile. She was right at the entrance to her park & the same could've happened to her. Wishing you the best!

Phil-glad to see ya. "Good People." Those 2 key words are the reason I like to stop in when I can. Shootin' the breeze with the above & also TRAIN people, makes my day. I've seemed to make a # of friends here, & I'm thankful for that. Life issues, etc, it's good to talk things with people that can relate, & also relate being model railroaders/railfans. I truly regret my 20+ years somewhat hiatus from the hobby, for I've missed a lot & still playing catch up.

Well, I better hit the sack-I hope Christmas goes VERY well for everyone else, & I'll try to stop in in the next few days or the weekend. Wink [;)]

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 3:14 AM

Good Morning from Tipton IN ! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by rtraincollector on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:50 AM

MERRY CHRISTMAS 

 

Nobody was hurt thank goodness ! II do believe there is more damage than you can see as The kitchen which is the first room now has a doward slant to it towards the front where the tounge would be but ours is removed.

I did score on some cars for my trains yesterday at dollar general the cars are 1:43 scale which my trains are (O gauge ) and they had them for $2.00 each so I bought 12 of them lol. Heres a pic of them all

Well not much else this morning think I'll have some breakfast thou not much just a lite one this day have to save room for christmas dinner.

Morning chole I'll have the country special you know bacon (4 strips) 3 eggs any style, Biscuits, 4 pancakes, Eds OJ , Hash browns, and a big cinnamon bun thanks chole.

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Posted by JeremyB on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:51 AM

Hi Guys

Juts thought I would drop in and wish everyone a merry christmas, hope santa is good to you all.

 

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 6:10 AM

RT,  I'm glad nobody was hurt, that's a horible way to start christmas!

 

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

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Posted by pcarrell on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:02 AM

Merry Christmas Everyone!

It's a beautiful morning to celebrate the birth of our blessed Savior!

 


Christmas In The Air

Listen to the sleigh bells ring
Their tinkling sounds delight.
Both, young and old gather 'round
The Christmas square tonight.

Sing of joy and peace on earth
Good will to all mankind.
Voices echo through the hills
Of precious love divine,

And as the stars in heav'n above
Cast down their brilliant glow,
Angels sing along with man,
While gazing down below.

Christmas time is in the air
And with it comes the hope,
Of a Savior born in 'Bethlehem
So many years ago.

Let peace now reign, in your heart
And joyful praise proclaim,
What wondrous gift the Father gave,
Emmanuel, His name!
 

 

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:21 AM

Merry Christmas morning, all!

Zoe, a cup of coffee and some scrambled eggs and toast for me, please. Thanks!

RT, may they get rolling quickly on fixing your lounge and steps (and anything else that needs fixing) there. The cars look good - you're set for summer on your layout, I'd say. Thumbs Up [tup]

 pcarrell wrote:

Merry Christmas Everyone!

It's a beautiful morning to celebrate the birth of our blessed Savior!

Sign - Ditto [#ditto], PC, as well as seconding Indiana Phil's and Mitch's remarks about the gift of  friends in the Diner!

May everyone be able to visit or be in touch with loved ones, friends or family today. Angel [angel] Angel [angel] Angel [angel] for healing, comfort, and may the peace He came to bring be yours. Prayers for protection for our men and women in the military services who are away from their loved ones to protect our freedom to celebrate today.

Blessings on this day and the years ahead,

Jim in Cape Girardeau 

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 8:46 AM

Merry Christmas everybody from Cincinnati ......... I can tell we're headed nothward by the frost on the car this morining. Probably, we will have snow on it next in Michigan. Granddaughters have already opened presents this morning.

Best wishes to each of you, and prayers for those in need.

I saw Fergie's caboose thread. Congrats, Fergie, on the caboose. ...but don't you need several dozen for all those 2-10-2's?????

Happy Model Railroading!!!!

 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:13 AM

in a CHRISTMAS mug, please & thank you!

RT, those cars looks real sharp. Very sorry about your house though, what a bummer to have to deal with that on Christmas. Hope there is no serious internal damage.

A MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone, from Cederstrand Studio & Farm!

Had a OK time with the Inlaws at last nights big dinner. Enjoyed most sitting on a dock watching a barge make trips across the lake on dredge runs. Best part is nobody went psycho.Laugh [(-D] Current goal is to mail out our Christmas cards & presents before New Years. 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:49 AM

I just about have my computer back to normal after rebuilding the main drive from the shattered remnants of the crash the other night. There's only one piece of hardware to install. That's my card reader. Problem is Windows 98 absolutely refuses to accept the driver, and it's the same one that I used before. That won't be a problem for long however as I'm preparing to upgrade to XP. XP won't be able to take in all the components on my main board as it's a bit outdated. Nothing major, just the network adapter (needed for getting on the internet). Installing XP now would have it in place when I install the new board I'm currently paying on. The shop tech assures me that XP will pick up everything on the new board without a problem and all that will be required is a little fine tuning from the utilities setup CD. I'm looking forward to getting my system back on the net so that I won't have to come over here to my parents place to use their dinosaur. They just upgraded it by adding a dual core processor but it's still slower than mine.

I don't know just how cold it was last night but I know I got really cold out on a fire call. The call came in around nine pm. A drunk driver had run off the road, gone through a chain link fence and hit tree. It was pretty obvious that he had been going quite a bit faster than the posted limit of 25 mph, say maybe about 50. The car was a real mess and the engine was on fire when we got there. The fire was quickly put out and the scene was secured. The police couldn't find any sign of the vehicles occupants but had run the plate, so they at least knew who the owner was. Talk about somebody that was in big trouble. Driving while intoxicated, driving on a permanently  suspended license, leaving the scene of an accident plus other charges. What a way to spend Christmas.

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Posted by ModelTrainLover on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11:42 AM
 rtraincollector wrote:

Merry Christmas All . Well I was at work today and about 10 after 3 the wife called and said I need to come home i think the house has been hit by a car. I told her I would be right home . Heres what I found when I got home.

 

 

 The steps you see above were bounced about 8' and turned 45 degrees There is one set of blocks holding the house up knocked down. That i know of have notice the front is leaning down so need to try and see under the house tomorrow when its light out to see if anymore blocks are knocked out of there position.

well look at it this way the person who did it can be charged with hit and run, and leaving the sceen of an acident. and just be very thankful that the propane tanks didn't blow other wise this could have been a lot worse

and Merry Christmaas to everyone!

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11:42 AM

Jeffery, you will be surprised that XP has many legacy drivers.  I highly recommend going to the Windows update page, once you get all the security updates it will offer all the drivers for everything on your machine.

 

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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11:45 AM

Merry Christmas everyone.

RT do you know who hit your house? I hope that yo do as repairs could be expensive.

Jeff good to hear that you are close to getting the puter fixed up.

This is going to be short as Mary Ann is still cleaning up and needs help. She ordered me to take a break so I don't want to over do it.

See you all later.

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11:46 AM

Speaking of cabooses.....Does anybody have old Tyco cabooses not in good shape? I took several apart, repainted them for the L.S.&W and lost the end rails and ladders.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:43 PM
 Paul W. Beverung wrote:

Merry Christmas everyone.

RT do you know who hit your house? I hope that yo do as repairs could be expensive.

See you all later.

Yes when I got home the police were already here so theres a whole report that I can get a copy of come thursday.

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Posted by SilverSpike on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 3:59 PM

Merry Christmas

and

Happy New Year!

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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:28 PM

While continuing the arduous job of organizing the workshop, made a decision this evening. Instead of building shelves to hold the leftover 2x4's (from house construction), why not finally begin my train table. So, borrowing Dave V's layout dimensions, I cut parts for a basic old-style (heavy duty) train table. Although I still plan on using foam, which will make a better table top: OSB or plywood?

Rain finally stopped here and it is a mud fest. Still preferable to drought conditions any day. Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas. Back to the dungeon/workshop for more organizing. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

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Posted by concretelackey on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:33 PM
 Cederstrand wrote:

While continuing the arduous job of organizing the workshop, made a decision this evening. Instead of building shelves to hold the leftover 2x4's (from house construction), why not finally begin my train table. So, borrowing Dave V's layout dimensions, I cut parts for a basic old-style (heavy duty) train table. Although I still plan on using foam, which will make a better table top: OSB or plywood?

Rain finally stopped here and it is a mud fest. Still preferable to drought conditions any day. Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas. Back to the dungeon/workshop for more organizing. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

IMHO- OSB is more sensitive to moisture (warpage and delamination) and does not hold screws as well. Unless you have a brand new or freshly resharpened blade to cut the OSB with your edges will be more splintered than plywood. As for pricing, if I was doing a room sized layout (or anything room sized) I may consider OSB over plywood and take that savings to invest in additional blades and fastening hardware. However, since it sounds as though you are doing roughly a 3'x8' I would go plywood. just my My 2 cents [2c]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 8:06 PM
Today I installed Windows XP Pro on my computer. It's an old copy that requires no activation. Everything on the system seems to be working, even the network adapter, of which I'm somewhat doubtful. That's a custom built piece of equipment. I think Windows just dug around until it found a generic driver that seems to work. I won't know for sure until I can hook up to the net and try going online. In any case, this is just a stop gap measure to get everything working so that when I get a copy of XP Home I can just install it over the XP Pro and it will be in place when I put the new board in. That's still a month or so away. You should have seen the fun when I plugged in my card reader. Windows looked at it and actually tripped up twice while assigning a driver to it. And I got the USB function of all my cameras working, even the old Aiptek Pencam which I bought around six or seven years ago. Only thing now is that the old board that's in there is basically running in overdrive now. It wasn't designed for XP.

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:13 PM

I agree with Ken,

My last layout was OSB, never again.  Areas of the layout warped or saged after the first year and was much heaver than the plywood. (Around the walls basement layout).

I would recomend 1/2" "good one side" plywood with 1" x 4" or 2" x 4" framing.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:21 PM

Hello. I certainly hope each of you had a great Christmas. We had a good visit in Cincinnati with the son who lives here with his wife and kids. Grandkids were all smiles.

This afternoon, I found out one of the Michigan daughters had been in a collision along with with her young family. Their minivan was destroyed and its airbags had deployed. She and my grandson went by ambulance to the hospital. Son-in-law and granddaughter were not hurt much. All are home now and will be OK. I'm thankful it was not much worse than that.

We drive to Michigan tomorrow.

Merry Chistmas again everyone.

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Posted by concretelackey on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:24 PM
Heartland, while saddened to hear about the accident I"m (make that we) are glad they are safe now.
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Posted by GMTRacing on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:25 PM

It never seems to end for you Jeff. At times I'm glad I'm functionally illiterate when it comes to programming and accessory drives. I know at the end of the day, the trials you go through give you a better computer than I have or can get but I gotta tell you if I had to go through all that you do I'd still be using pencil and paper.

Rob - I'd go with the plywood if possible. My lower layout is 2x4 supporting 1/4" plywood (luan actually) with foam over that. After two years, no issues with sagging or warping though I did try to keep the load down and limited the depth to a max of 36".

Hope everyone had a good day and hopefully took a second to remember what today is really all about. As for me we had all the family over at one time or another and that was really good. I'll check in tomorrow time to turn in for me.   CUL,Big Smile [:D] J.R.

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Posted by philnrunt on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:52 PM

   Howdy all. Hope everyone had a great day, we did.

    Cederstrand, I'm not sure where you live, but if you ever have humidity above.....oh, I don't know.....lets say 1 per cent, go with plywood! OSB should stand for Oriented SPONGE Board. I would make some pithy comment about "IMHO it's only good for...." but I really can't think of much of anything it's really good for. Like Ken and others said, cutting it is less than satisfying, I don't think you'll be unhappy with choosing plywood. And good to hear that you are building your layout!

    Didn't get any Model RRing things for Cmas, which is fine and dandy, seems when people don't know what to buy you they gravitate towards anything with Lionel on it. I have clocks that hoot, collectible tins- only 12 million made- and numerous other Lionel items. Bless 'em. Thats one great thing about a running layout, once they see what you are trying to do, then the gifts become a bit more applicable to Model RRing.

    However, I do believe Amyjo picked me up a few shirts and a Brakeman's lantern from Schraeders, but we haven't had time to open our gifts yet! Yesterday was the Cmas eve portion of the in-laws holliday, we ate ourselves stupid, ten members of the family that either play or played instruments in school put on a great little concert, and we sang carols. Today, we ate ourselves stupider, again were entertained by the band and played with all of the toys and games the kids got. These people are lots of fun! I think when I get home tomorrow morning, we will open our gifts and that will certainly make our nephew happy. He's learning what the term "bittersweet" means. He really enjoys being here with his family, but misses his mom. Ah, the choices life gives you.

   Everybody take care, and hope the Christmas cheer hangs on through the coming year! 

 

  

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Posted by bogp40 on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:25 PM
 Cederstrand wrote:

While continuing the arduous job of organizing the workshop, made a decision this evening. Instead of building shelves to hold the leftover 2x4's (from house construction), why not finally begin my train table. So, borrowing Dave V's layout dimensions, I cut parts for a basic old-style (heavy duty) train table. Although I still plan on using foam, which will make a better table top: OSB or plywood?

Rain finally stopped here and it is a mud fest. Still preferable to drought conditions any day. Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas. Back to the dungeon/workshop for more organizing. Cowboy [C):-)] Rob

Rob,

Hope you had a very Merry Christmas.

If you are wondering what to do for the benchwork. consider what you want for your true layout. Materials for the foundation of your frame for a layout that you will put countless hours of hard work into, set a plan for the overall layout and build to suit your needs. I realize that as a carpenter some of this may come so easy for me, I still try to instill on those to build  their layouts in a way that they will not regret their methods of construction later on.

If this style of construction still works for your needs and have no problem with it, then fine, go for it. When I first got into the hobby I was in a large club setting with standards that were far beyond the average home layout. Our second layout was to be state of the art in design, benchwork, track selection, electrical and in the scenery dept. Just because a layout may be only a smaller verion, there's no reason to cut any corners. Sometimes I find it difficult to explain my position to those who are doing a smaller or room sized layout. It is your layout to be proud of and expect the most from the space restraints to accomplish as much as you can from it.

I find a problem with the build a frame and just cover with foam type of layouts. If you are building a layout that is primarily flat, no grades, or bridges spanning deep rivers or canyons then that foam covered plywood empire will be fine and continue in that way. However, if the prototype that you are trying to model needs various contours and major elevation changes you should really consider an open frame construction.

As a carpenter I don't even want to go to the club and build benchwork and work with wood --as I do this all day long. I love to do the scenery, build the hills and contours, including all bridges, portals and all the below track scenery as rivers, valleys etc. Sure, I'll help on real trouble spots where alterations become critical for spans or strength. at the duckunders or where a bridge is cut out.

I don't know your prototype and the terrain you are modeling, just give some thought to any open grid whereas  any contours below the track elevation are done very easily. The track whether pine spline or cookie cutter at the club make any of these possible sitting up on risers. All the scwnery contours are placed for our needs.

The following pic shows a portion of what I'm dealing with,

For any drastic elevation changes open grid is a must

And use a decent grade of plywood instead of any OSB, I find it so inferior to plywood. Of coarse other will disagree, I have been doing quality carpentry for 35 years and would only use this stuff for a pallet or shipping container, let alone my home layout.

 

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Posted by bogp40 on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:38 PM

RT,

Hope all works out well. What a way to start of Christmas. That person must have been really moving to snap off those 2x6s and decking like that. Thankfully no one was hurt. I hope you had a merry Christmas anyway.

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