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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, October 9, 2008 6:54 PM
WCfan, that's a cool scheme. Wikious, that's a great looking diorama. Like the yard office. Will you incorporate that into your bigger layout when you get it?

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Posted by Wikious on Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:01 PM

Yep. Can't have a yard without a yard office, and I don't feel like buying another one.  It's a Pikestuff kit (obviously) and I think I'm going to get a few more of their kits. I like them.

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:03 PM

Thanks Sawyer.

Wikious, that kind of reminds me of Horicon...Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by Wikious on Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:25 PM
WC- Wasn't my intent (I didn't base it off anything), but if I set it up right next to my work bench (paint shop) it'd be Horicon!

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:22 PM

 WCfan wrote:
Yep, F45, SD45, SD45 consist looks quite nice! I'd like to do that in WC, if Athearn Releases a WC F45.

I was thinking more like an F45, SD45, SD45, F45 consist. Maybe throw some SD40-2s in the mix. I've seen a pic of an F45, SD45, SD40-2, SD45, F45 consist before.

Also, with that green and yellow paint on the 60, someone might be tempted to put a Packer's logo on it somewhere.Laugh [(-D]

When looking around the web I found a picture of two WSOR F45. I never heard of them having one before.

I did manage to get that Rotary to work on DCC (it did work before, I just couldn't turn it off). I used some CVs so that it'd take a bit for the blades to get going. The one problem I have with it is that it picks up power like a brass steamer. Power from one rail in the plow, power from the other in the tender. I want to get F-units to push it with, since those or Gp9s were usually used.

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by super cheif n on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:26 PM
does anyone know if there is any rotary snowplows in BNSF or BN in N scale?
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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:27 PM

Close enough to Horicon. Tongue [:P]

That would also look nice! I love the flares!

I have been told I should do a packer locomotive!

Yep, the WSOR had 3 F45s. The WSOR wanted to use them on there Chicago trains, but that never fell through. The F45s where also too heavy for there other branch lines. But I think this was before the WSOR bought the Wisconsin and Calumut (Spelling?).

 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:29 PM
 Packer wrote:

Also, with that green and yellow paint on the 60, someone might be tempted to put a Packer's logo on it somewhere.Laugh [(-D]

 

Hey, that wouldn't look half bad. And of course, it is going to be working in Green bay. Why not see what you can come up w/ WCfan, something like a Packers commemorative locomotive?

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:32 PM

I'll look into it. It'd probably be one of the WIN GP38s. My special units are the First Annv unit, 10th Annv Unit, City of Chicago SD45-2, and now the 150 year Wisconsin Unit.

EDIT: I can do a 100 years annv from 1896-1996 (When the packers where semi-pro), or I can do a 90 year Annv from 1919-2009, or you can wait 10 years to do a 1919-2029 loco..Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:45 PM

Well I have a Packers F9 AB set, with 2 matching cars, one of those hawthore village things.

 super cheif n wrote:
does anyone know if there is any rotary snowplows in BNSF or BN in N scale?

First result off of google shows a BN one. Don't know if the blades rotate.

http://thefreightyard.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=360&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1732&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37&vmcchk=1

You could get the undecorated kit for less than 20, as opposed to a assembled and painted one for 84. (which is more that I paid for mine and it's decoder put together.)

Vincent

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Posted by WCfan on Thursday, October 9, 2008 9:04 PM

Hummm, interesting locomotive. Robby showed me her.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=323167

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=171047&nseq=0

Sean GuldenGeneralBN 6330 was part of a group of SD40-2's acquired by the BN during January-February 1972 numbered BN 6325-6339, and BN's first acquisition of this model. It was repowered with a 12-cylinder Caterpillar prime mover at the Galesburg Diesel Shop in December 1986. Reclassified a SD40C, BN 6330 retained its original appearance except for an SD45 tapered hood added to accomodate a larger radiator, vertical plate smoke deflectors mounted atop the roof behind the cab and Canadian-style snow shields behind the cab sides. Rated at 4,200 horsepower, it was BN highest rated unit and served satisfactorily until retirement at Topeka, Kansas in December 1998. It was to become BNSF 7600, but never had this number applied. Source - BNSF 2007 Locomotive Review and Diagrams II by Robert C. Del Grosso

I might have to add this girl to the list of Kitbahses I would like to do. SDL39, SDM, SD40-2CAT/SD40C.

 

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, October 9, 2008 9:16 PM

I think that one would be fairly easy, if the SD45 and SD40-2 are the same lenght. (I think the dash-2 is longer, so finding the flared radiator would be the hard part)

I've been thinking about doing a E8/9 or an F-unit rebuild, after I finish my projects.

Just don't start more projects than you can handle. (I ain't doing that again)

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by WCfan on Friday, October 10, 2008 3:58 PM

The SD40-2 has a longer frame. Not sure about the body. Basically you'd just cut off the radiators on a SD40-2, and the Long Hood Nose. Replace those with SD45 radiators and long hood noses, and you have the basic idea. The roof details are different, like the turbo, and air filter hatch. You'd also have to get a SD45 DB and cut that up to fit the SD40-2.

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Posted by Packer on Friday, October 10, 2008 8:51 PM

Might be an expensive kitbash. From the rear exhaust stack back, it's an SD45, with an SD45 DB blister.

I did a little reading on it, and somewhere it was suggested using a Kato SD40-2 and SD45 to make it.

Vincent

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Friday, October 10, 2008 8:55 PM
Rapido is forcing me into getting a job. I want to inquire at one of the Grocery Stores/Supermarkets... A friend gets 100$ a week, so put aside half for college, and I can have money for 5 Rapido Osgood-Bradleys in the next 2 months! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Packer on Friday, October 10, 2008 9:01 PM

You could get more than that mowing lawns. I did that for a while, and got around 45 bucks an hour (tractor mower helps).

Right now I'm seeing if I can get a job doing CAD drafting (I'm certified in autoCAD). Definetly pays better than the greasy spoons.

Vincent

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Posted by WCfan on Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:01 PM

Well, I think the most expensive part of the kit bash would be buying a SD40-2. The SD45 blister/splice, SD45 radiators, and long hood nose wouldn't be that expensive. Also, the SD45 DB blister in between the DB and the Radiators is a tad shorter than a normal SD45.

Well, finally the hood of my SDL is starting to look like a Locomotive. The hood doors and air filter aren't glued in. As you can see I did make a mistake, which I realized when I cut the hoods. But that can be fixed by some styrene. Also, the cut below the radiator isn't straight, but again, I can fix that.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:39 PM

Right now I'm waiting for the glue on the wall sections of my Pikestuff single-stall enginehouse to dry... I've cut out the loco door, two people doors, and a window, and attached them in. Then I glued the 6 side wall sections to the end walls, 3 sides to each end, and I have two L shaped wall sections drying now. Then I'll glue them together and add the roof.

I'll get photos soon... Even though the project is litarally a foot from my hand sitting here at my computer, I'm too lazy to get photos just yet...

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Monday, October 13, 2008 10:08 PM
Hey guys.

I'm not going to get into details about everyone's postings, but everyone: great stuff.

I was out of town, in Quebec City. I stayed with a good railfanning friend and club member. We took the 3 hour train ride up there, and stayed the long weekend. There was a model railroad open house, and we spent the Saturday there. CN had some stuff on display, and I got to drive a GP9 via beltpack! Sunday-Monday he had family over, and we got a ton of trackwork done on his 13x15 foot layout.

As you all know, I am also VEEEEERRRRRRRRYYY behind in video editing and uploading, so HOPEFULLY I'll get all this footage to you before the new year... Sigh [sigh]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:51 AM

I don't have any video to edit... I never get to go railfanning basically, although my parents may go to some lamp store which happens to be near Palmer, MA (and the Steaming Tender, a railfan hangout at the junction of CSX's ex-B&A mainline and NECR) so hopefully I can get them to drop me off there for a couple hours... Tis' sad when you have to do this to enjoy your hobby... Although there is a rail line within 8 miles, within biking distance, it's only the Pan Am line from Worcester to Ayer, and it doesn't get much traffic... Plus I'd need to ride on 140, which would not be fun at all...

Then there's the CSX Leominster branch, even easier to get to, with no bad roads, which is limited to GP40-2s, but the chances of actually seeing a train are minimal...

Or I could ride almost 9 miles to the CSX main in Westborough, but that would be on an even worse road much of the way, and my parents don't want me riding on that road... Plus it's 9 miles on a bike, so...

Anyway, I'm getting sidetracked...


Here's some modeling news from me...

This weekend I finished my Pikestuff enginehouse which was in their Kitbasher series, so there were no door or window openings whatsoever. The kit came with blank walls. I cut out door and window openings and installed the doors and windows. I then assembled the walls, added an interior (shop details near the locomotive door, plus a styrene "paved" floor with the rails embedded in the foor) and added the roof. The final step was weathering and signs.

I installed the structure in my White River Junction locomotive service area, and added a lube shed nearby. The facility is located between the yard lead and mainline. Yes, there is a railroad crossing over the mainline.

Looking West. The track on the left is the mainline, and the one on the right is the yard lead. The furthest right track is the New Poland Team track.



Straight on. West is to the left, and East to the right.



Looking East.



From above.





I also installed Caboose Hobbies Ground Throws on my layout. They are shown here in the yard...



...And worked on my IHC cement plant. I added weathering and changed the construction. I added footing to the tower legs, but I haven't got any photos of it...




I still probably have some superdetailing to do...

And... There's new power coming to the WRS!

It's an Atlas unit, which at $50 is a real steal! I'll still have to put a decoder in it, but that price is still low for an Atlas. Now I have TWO locomotives of the same type, also both ex-CSX units even if they're very different... One is an ex-C&O U23B with Blomburg trucks, the other is an ex-SCL unit with FB2 trucks...

Now to wait for it to arrive... But it's a really busy week, so I'll probably be so busy I'll wonder why there's a package for me when it arrives...Whistling [:-^]

I'm also getting ready to paint my first unit in WRS colors. 1701 was done by a friend, and I've never painted any equipment before, so it'll be a new expiriance for me. That's why I'm starting with a cheaper unit: a Bachmann DCC-On-Board GP30. It needed new paint anyway, and I'm planning on selling it afterwards anyway, as it doesn't meet my operating standards. (Locomotives ustbe Atlas, KATO, Athearn Genisis, or Proto 2000. 1701 is a Walthers Trainline, but it's an exception because of the paint scheme. I may sell it sometime in the future though, once I have a replacement for it, and once I have more WRS locomotives...)

The locomotive arrived dead in tow behind the power on 403, stripped of handrails and most other parts.

It arrived in White River Junction yard, and was shoved into the MOW/caboose track to await painting.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:40 PM

Wooooooo! No more custom painting for me! Big Smile [:D]

Good luck on your locos Tyler, it seems everyone has been getting GE's lately...

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:59 PM
 Guilford Guy wrote:

Wooooooo! No more custom painting for me! Big Smile [:D]

Good luck on your locos Tyler, it seems everyone has been getting GE's lately...

Thought you might like that...Wink [;)]

I love GE U-boats, but they don't really fit in with the typical image of a shortline, especially one with my freelanced history...

When the B&M line between White River Jct, VT and Concord, NH washed out, Guilford petitioned to abandon the line. The state of New Hampshire purchased the line and provided funding to open a new alignment over a route less prone to washouts. Consequently, the grade was much steeper.

A new railroad company was founded to operate the line, called the White River Southern Railroad. A connecting shortline called the DDWH now operates the remainder of the line that was washed out on the East, and the line on the West side of the washout is currently abandoned.

Start-up power for the WRS was a pair of ex-B&M RS1s, an ex-CN FP7, and an ex-B&M GP9. The RS1s were sold to the DDWH along with the remainder of the washed out line, the FP7 is currently stored in WRJ as a parts source, and the GP9 is still operating as 1701.

Additional power came in the form of a GP9, and later an SDP35 (the steam generator was removed, making it an SD35 with a squared back) and a U23B. This is where the story gets a bit odd... For a New England shortline running an all EMD early Geep roster, buying an SD or especially a GE is very non-steriotypical. Most smaller railroads stick to one builder, unless they've had a problem with the other. Plus, the SD doesn't make sense. The leap from a GP7/9 to an SD35 is huge. They either got a really good deal, or needed a lot of tractive effort all of a sudden!

The GE doesn't fit either... Must've been a good deal! Incidentally, both of the model locos were really good deals, which is which I purchased them. Anyone got a backstory for the SD and/or GEs?

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Posted by trainlover38 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:08 PM
hey guys- construction on my model railroad is SLOW!!!!!!. Im 12, so I cant drive to the hobby shop everyday. Anyway, you guys' layouts are looking good!
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Posted by Railfan Alex on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:14 PM
Hey!

It's a fictional, and you can do whatever you want!

Here's an idea:

They got the SD35 because they wanted better tractive effort (6 axle SD35 vs. 4 axle GP9) but they didn't want to go with anything older than an SD35, because of their age.

As for the GE's, they later wanted more 4 axle power, with a similar horsepower rating to the SD35's.

But once again, it's a fictional!

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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:33 PM

Regionals do tend to stick to one builder. But I'm positive there is a road out there that is a mix of EMDs and GEs. I don't think your SDP35 is out of place at all. WC had only ONE SD35 on there entire roster, and they only had ONE SD40, and 5 SD40-2s. So it isn't out of place.

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Posted by C&O 2-6-6-6 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:46 PM

Just got a order in from the LHS.

1 rock island modern box car

2 C&O flat cars

3 C&O gondolas

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:45 PM
Hey tyler, there's really nothing to painting locos. Just make sure your masking is good and tight. Now as to decaling...well, I've never done it, so no experience there. I handpaint my locos w/ a paintbrush, are you using a paintbrush or airbrush?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:45 PM

But Boston & Maine 471 was originally a Canadian National GP9RM, and only became B&M power after the Guilford take-over... Whistling [:-^]

I assume WRS chopped the nose themselves.

Whenever anyone feels odd about their roster take a look at Fingerlakes Railway or Mass Central.

FGLK uses B23-7's B30-7's, and a mix of chopped GP9's and standard GP9's. 

Mass Central uses GP9's, an NW5, a CF7, and previous a Whiting 44 Tonner, 2 C425's, and an FP7. I think judging by your location, your roster isn't too far off compared to other railroads. 

BTW, B&M never had RS1's. They had RS2's, RS3's, S1/2/3/4/5's, and S5m's. After McGinnis took over in 1957, no subsequent ALCo's were purchased, and a lot of the older power like the BL2's, and FT's were traded in for four newer GP18's, and a lot of GP9's. They also owned a dozen GP38-2's, and leased 18 GP40-2's from EMD. Rather than reknewing the lease, they were resold by EMD to Helm, and CP, where they still run in fading Gray and Blue.

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Posted by Wikious on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:57 PM
Tyler- one option is that you could give them a leasing paint job. Railroad needed some extra muscle, or maybe they're trying the larger units out to switch providers.

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Posted by trainlover38 on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:36 PM
Sounds good. Do u have any pictures?

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