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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:59 AM
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 lionroar88 wrote:
 kpolak wrote:
 lionroar88 wrote:

Need opinion on something

The water supply for the toilet comes through the floor, should I leave this alone and just cut the tile around it, or should I reroute the water supply through the wall?

Leave it.  Remember there's water in them pipes.  As soon as you open the pipe, even if you blow the pipes out with compressed air, you'll get a lake on your ceiling.  My 2 cents [2c]

Kurt



Ummm... Kurt... that's what they make towels for... you put a bunched up towel under the pipes, then cut the pipe... only runs for a few seconds.  Just did this on one of the vanities, but I have to rip up part of the floor, put down new underlayment, and all that mess... just not sure it is worth the effort... of course I've done this much so what is another hour work - right?

Sounds like you're bettrer at sweating fittings than I...It took me 2+ hours + great hair lloss to join (2) 1/2 inch pipes under the floor where I removed a toilet in our remodel.  Water kept leaking into the joint and messing up the solder.  Opinion based on bad personal experience.

I agree with Jumijo, (gulp) the wall would be better, and make floor tiling easier and cleaner.

Kurt

 

when your doing sweating in them pipes with water we always put some bread in there to temp block the water and let us get the sweating done and then the water will disolve the bread.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:30 AM
 kpolak wrote:
 lionroar88 wrote:
 kpolak wrote:
 lionroar88 wrote:

Need opinion on something

The water supply for the toilet comes through the floor, should I leave this alone and just cut the tile around it, or should I reroute the water supply through the wall?

Leave it.  Remember there's water in them pipes.  As soon as you open the pipe, even if you blow the pipes out with compressed air, you'll get a lake on your ceiling.  My 2 cents [2c]

Kurt



Ummm... Kurt... that's what they make towels for... you put a bunched up towel under the pipes, then cut the pipe... only runs for a few seconds.  Just did this on one of the vanities, but I have to rip up part of the floor, put down new underlayment, and all that mess... just not sure it is worth the effort... of course I've done this much so what is another hour work - right?

Sounds like you're bettrer at sweating fittings than I...It took me 2+ hours + great hair lloss to join (2) 1/2 inch pipes under the floor where I removed a toilet in our remodel.  Water kept leaking into the joint and messing up the solder.  Opinion based on bad personal experience.

I agree with Jumijo, (gulp) the wall would be better, and make floor tiling easier and cleaner.

Kurt

 



OIC!  The pipes in the house are CPVC, not copper! Smile [:)] The ONLY place they used copper was for the shower lines above the diverters, so that makes it 1,000,000 times easier to do plumbing! Smile [:)]  I only have one joint that I need to sweat... THANK GOD!
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Posted by kpolak on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:56 AM
 lionroar88 wrote:
 kpolak wrote:
 lionroar88 wrote:

Need opinion on something

The water supply for the toilet comes through the floor, should I leave this alone and just cut the tile around it, or should I reroute the water supply through the wall?

Leave it.  Remember there's water in them pipes.  As soon as you open the pipe, even if you blow the pipes out with compressed air, you'll get a lake on your ceiling.  My 2 cents [2c]

Kurt



Ummm... Kurt... that's what they make towels for... you put a bunched up towel under the pipes, then cut the pipe... only runs for a few seconds.  Just did this on one of the vanities, but I have to rip up part of the floor, put down new underlayment, and all that mess... just not sure it is worth the effort... of course I've done this much so what is another hour work - right?

Sounds like you're bettrer at sweating fittings than I...It took me 2+ hours + great hair lloss to join (2) 1/2 inch pipes under the floor where I removed a toilet in our remodel.  Water kept leaking into the joint and messing up the solder.  Opinion based on bad personal experience.

I agree with Jumijo, (gulp) the wall would be better, and make floor tiling easier and cleaner.

Kurt

 

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Posted by sir james I on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:41 AM

GOOD MORNING All

A good thread day. Train pic's, a beautiful school,etc., I like the Fram filters too,because of the easy grip. But that first time off for plug & filter can be a new word learning experince. Been there. As for the water pipes all our first floor pipes come through the floor, never had a problem with that, but I would not advise someone else how to do theirs. Cool with a little sun this AM rain expected later, its down hill from here.....Later   Sir James

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Posted by cnw1995 on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:55 AM

Morning from a cool and grey Chicago where it was 43 degrees cooler than it was 48 hours ago.
Jon, got your email; I'll look around. 

Jim A, every week, I seem to be paying other people more to do more things that I used to myself.  MMMMM, bacon.

Brent, I'm impressed with your work - personally, I try to avoid anything in the house having to do with water under pressure and 120 v.

Mitch, nice website. Glad to hear your mom is recovering. Wonder how Dr. John's mom is faring?

Nick, very nice photos - I recognize that 'French' look to the middle engine.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:53 AM
 kpolak wrote:
 lionroar88 wrote:

Need opinion on something

The water supply for the toilet comes through the floor, should I leave this alone and just cut the tile around it, or should I reroute the water supply through the wall?

Leave it.  Remember there's water in them pipes.  As soon as you open the pipe, even if you blow the pipes out with compressed air, you'll get a lake on your ceiling.  My 2 cents [2c]

Kurt



Ummm... Kurt... that's what they make towels for... you put a bunched up towel under the pipes, then cut the pipe... only runs for a few seconds.  Just did this on one of the vanities, but I have to rip up part of the floor, put down new underlayment, and all that mess... just not sure it is worth the effort... of course I've done this much so what is another hour work - right?

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Jim,
Thanks for comparing me to a 60 year old woman! Sad [:(]

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Posted by kpolak on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 AM
 lionroar88 wrote:

Need opinion on something

The water supply for the toilet comes through the floor, should I leave this alone and just cut the tile around it, or should I reroute the water supply through the wall?

Leave it.  Remember there's water in them pipes.  As soon as you open the pipe, even if you blow the pipes out with compressed air, you'll get a lake on your ceiling.  My 2 cents [2c]

Kurt

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Posted by RRCharlie on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:33 AM

Cool (70 degrees ) and sunny in Jacksonville this morning. Not much new with the trains. Fell down 3 stairs at back of deck Saturday night. Went for my annual physical yesterday. Doctor asked how I was. Told him, "It only hurts when I breathe!". Said I probably cracked a rib. Not much can be done so I guess I'll just play Mr. Tudball ( from Carol Burnett Show ) for next few weeks. Waiting for the Train Works to call and tell me the new collegiate cars are in. They have shipped from Lionel, but Dave always has a time lag waiting for his supplier. Anxiously awaiting next month's ( December ) TRAINS magazine. I will be joining the elite group from the Coffee Pot as my letter to the editor will be published. Happy Hump Day every one.

Mel Hazen; Jax, FL

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Posted by fifedog on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:22 AM
Jumijo - that's just wrong.
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Posted by Jumijo on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:17 AM

 

Brent reminds me of Mrs. Howell of Gilligan's Island when she ate the radioactive beets. She was running around doing everything.  

And yes, I am going to eat that bacon. Are you going to eat that cruller? Can we watch? Wink [;)]

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Posted by fifedog on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:11 AM

Jumijo - I don't know what 88 runs on, but like I said before, when he finally gets down to building his train layout---WATCH OUT!

Oh, about your chest, you probably popped a "gasket" when you were trying to loosen that oil pan bolt;weird positions will do that...  If you're not going to eat that bacon, could you pass it over here?Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:01 AM
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Bent,

Go in the wall with the toilet water supply if you can.  I'll repair your tender and vista dome if you repair my bathroom!

Do you drink a lot of Red Bull by any chance? 



LOL!  I would spend a lot of money on airfare!  Would definitely do it IF I lived near you, I don't do this stuff for a living, but it is VERY relaxing for me.

No on the Red Bull.  I think Don asked what I eat for breakfast... On weekdays, typically I'll have a bowl of Frosted Mini-Wheats or a bowl of oatmeal, 1 slice of wheat bread toast with peanut butter, and a glass of OJ.  On weekends either Belgian Waffle, Pancakes, or some form of eggs, with home fries, bacon for maple sausage (Bob Evans), and OJ.  One 20oz coffee too everyday or I get bad headaches.

I have to see if my medical coverage covers chiropractors or massage therapists... my shoulders and back are killing me right now!
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Posted by Jumijo on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:55 AM

Bent,

Go in the wall with the toilet water supply if you can.  I'll repair your tender and vista dome if you repair my bathroom!

Do you drink a lot of Red Bull by any chance? 

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:52 AM
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My left chest hurts this morning. "I'm coming Elizabeth!"  Dead [xx(]

Don't worry.  Lots of folks have that when they are having a heart attack.  When it feels like I am standing on your chest, call 911. Shock [:O]

Mornging.  Meeting with Town Commissioner at 9.  Dr's apt at 1:30 to check hand and see if there are more places to carve out. Shock [:O]  Got a sprinkle this AM.  Fife, thanks./  Got to watch those Pot Pies.  I cook them when I am on the road in motel room [microwave them].  Later. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:48 AM

Mitch,
Glad your Mom is doing better!  LOL @ the pot and spoon, that is classic!

Brutus,
Thought you would find this interesting:
http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18900333&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478569&rfi=6

Has Laz stopped posting on the Pot?

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Wanted to post a couple update pics of the bathroom...

This is the framing for the new tub step:


Framing with Hardiboard installed:


Vanity areas (you can see where the drywall patches are for the old medicine cabinets):



Shower area:


Wall removed where the shower faucet is:


Close up of the old plumbing:


Old plumbing cut away:


I must have forgotten to take a pic of the new plumbing completed... will post later... here is the start of a test fit before I realized the mounting board needed to be replaced with a narrower one so the large black plate in back would be flush with the finished wall:



So tonight I finish the shower plumbing and finish removing the drywall/tile.  Then install the Hardiboard around the shower and behind the tub.  Still have to remove tile in toilet room.

Need opinion on something

The water supply for the toilet comes through the floor, should I leave this alone and just cut the tile around it, or should I reroute the water supply through the wall?

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Posted by fifedog on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:26 AM

Mornin' boys. Mornin' English.  Fair & 70's here in the Mid-Atlantic region.  Got a little rain last night;calling for a little more this evening.

Nick12 - Thanks for sharing the Amsterdam pics.  Beautiful station.  Personally, don't care for the bullet-nosed high-speed locos.  But when you're in a hurry, they'll do the trick.  Just curious, do the local stores in Amsterdam charge a premium on chips, snacks, and other "munchies"...

Phish - I use FRAM filters with the black grip ends.  Easy off.

Chief - Direct on Mr. Wolf and the switch problem.  He will also get his ear bent for their new parts policy.

Mitchie - glad Mom is home and you're able to get out to Romney.  Just came back.  Leaves haven't changed there yet, just up top near Oakland.  Reading a book on Romney in the Civil War right now.  Picked it up at the Apple-Butter Festival in Burlington Saturday.  Also picked up a paperback train book Chessie System in WEST VIRGINIA.  If you're a big C&O fan, get it.  But Mr Dixon totally ignores a big portion of the B&O and WM.Disapprove [V] Disappointed.

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Posted by jonadel on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:39 AM
Mitch--

A most excellent web site for your new school, easy to use. Even parents should be able to understand it! Quite an interesting design, doesn't look like a traditional school, do you have a floor plan yet? Are you enjoying your year off? :) At least you don't have to plan/present inservice, ugggggg.

We were talking about York last night and how much we enjoyed our time in PA last year, loved the area and especially the history available. We are really looking forward to our next trip, whenever that might be.

Jon

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:31 AM

Good Morning from Blueberryhill....

It is a sunny, but cool, 54 degrees. Going up to 74, today, with a chance of rain later.

Today is the weekly trip to Cambridge, for the grocery shopping. No change in gas prices. In fact, all the prices of everything, are staying high. Not fun any more.  No time for trains today. A few aches and pains are coming back since the weather cooled off.

Indians start the ballgames with Boston Friday. 7 games.

Dining car has arrived and is ready for breakfast. Later.

Y'all have a great Wednesday.

Chuck

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Posted by Jumijo on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:33 AM

Rainy here this morning. That's cool with me as I just put grass seed down Monday.

No trains last night. I watched Flicka with the kids. A modern version, not the oldie. One of the lads fell asleep and didn't see the happy ending.

Although I didn't run any trains, I did go down and look the layout over. The 2343s are on the inside loop, parked in front of the station. I looked at them for a minute or two and thought how lucky I was to finally get such a nice set. Right place at the right time ($$). I really am enjoying those beauties! 

My left chest hurts this morning. "I'm coming Elizabeth!"  Dead [xx(]

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Posted by CSXect on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:16 AM

GOOD MORNING COFFEE POT, watch out for the dribble cupsMischief [:-,]

Yesterday I went to renew my drivers licences and the computer system went down state wide as soon as it was my turnBanged Head [banghead] will try again today after work.

I downloaded a free version of digital mars C/C++ compiler and took me a couple hours to figure out how to actualy compile a simple print statement but I succeded if I like the compiler I may go for the full version.

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Posted by mitchelr on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:58 AM

Morning Folks.

Some of you are up mighty early today.  Fresh pot is on. Not much train related news here. Too busy with work and other stuff.

If anyone is interested, you can visit the website I put together for my new school. Been very busy with getting ready to order furniture, budgets and such.

http://www.carrollk12.org/ebbvalley 

Take care,

Mitch 

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:47 AM

Morning all

Great cool morning in Southern Ohio

Colin-too bad about the knee, been there have the tee shirt.  For a while take it easy, you will be better in the long run.

Jumijo-Crazy plugs at times.  I dread first oil changes for those same reasons.  I do like cheif, cheater bar and six points.  Crappy thing too is some of the filters are using thinner sheetmetal for the cannister, so when you are removing them if they are real tight, they crush in the wrench or twist.  A real mess.  I've switched all vehicles to synthetic oil.  25K on the oil rated from the manufacturer and premium oil filters.

Glad to hear there was no damage from your derailments.  I was taking a 660 passenger car off the shelf once and the coupler caught the next 661 and pulled it off the shelf, falling about 5' to my desk/workbench.  Dented the desk top, no damage to the car.  Talk about anxiety attack! 

The mission at church is going great, but making for a very long day.  Need to go, all take care

Jim 

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Posted by dbaker48 on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:23 AM

P.S.- Wonder if Don B. heard about the "Banquet Pot Pie" recall. Shock <img src=" border="0" />

Have it on pretty good source, that he knows nothing about it.   Don't have any in our stock, which is unusual, actually liked them.

Had a similiar incident with our LGB, it dropped from a height of 7' straight to the floor.  It was carpeted but from that distance don't know if it mattered much.  Glued the smoke stack back on, roof on, bell, and put it on the track.  No hesitation just merrily took off, smoking as it went. 

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Posted by Nick12DMC on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:11 AM

Hi all, Here's some pics from our quick visit to Amsterdam.

Central Station

DB Intercity Express Cool [8D]

 

How very civilised...Wink [;)]

 Follow the Chief's advice on the 6 point socket. Been there...got the T-shirt. Sad [:(]

Have a good one all

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 9:12 PM
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Ok  --- UNCLE! I give up. I tried to give my new car its first oil change this afternoon. I've been changing my own oil since I was 16. Well, I could not get the @#$% drain plug to budge. So for the first time in 30 years, I'm going to have a mechanic (GM) change my oil for me.

I usually change the oil after the first 500 - 1000 miles, and every 3000 miles there after. I think one other time, I encountered a tight drain plug, but it was no where near as tight as this one. Is this what it's like to get old, Chief?

Use a "pull handle".  You can add a pipe to it and it will turn the car over.  Can not believe oilo pan plug is that tight.  Also, use a 6 point socket to insure not to round off the edges.  I have seen oil filters [factory installed] that I had to drive a large screwdriver through and almost destroy the filter to get it to turn.  Does not take a lot of tightening to install filter [a little oil on the gasket and hand tighten].

Evening all.  Another busy Town day.  Did get to Lowes and get board for divider for layout.  Got some paints to make mountains and trees to paint on it.  Got grass cut [neighbor's too].  Watered and fed deer.  Now watching movie Blood Diamond.  Action movie.

Fife, don't forget tp talk to Mikeyboy about my Realtrax switch failures.  Thanks

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Posted by sir james I on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 9:06 PM

EVENING ALL,

Nice today but cooler 60s, we have 50s starting tomorrow. Went grocery shopping today,and those of you that do that chore know prices are rising. I ordered BCRs for the rest of my "M" engines, tired of those @%$#&* batteries.And no more engines from them until they will start without batteries. This is not a bash I'm just fed up with this situation. Till Tomorrow, Sir James

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 8:52 PM

Can someone tell me the maximum outside rail to rail demensions of a Hell's Gate bridge?  Also, how long is it?

Thanks,
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Posted by dougdagrump on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 8:36 PM

Evenin' All.

Mitch, I think every family has members like that. They will become some of your fondest memories much later in life. Glad to hear she is doing well.

Well after the Sunday run I am really missing K-Line. I had offered to change some traction tires for another club member. When I saw that it was an FM with those big *** trucks I thought what a dummy to volunteer. It looked as though it would be a real pain, took a look and WOW. Remove two little screws and the whole side frame pops rite off, how sweet is that. Wish they were all that easy. One of K-Lines better ideas.

The grandson was out last saturday, found out how sturdy the LGB equipment is, he derailed on the flagstone wash and four cars plus the loco ended up taking a tumble all the way to the ground. After picking up the various roofs , cars, lighting connections and loco the cleaning and re-assembly began. No damage, ran like a champ. Thanks LGB.

Well back to the kitchen, working on a pot of tortilla soup.

P.S.- Wonder if Don B. heard about the "Banquet Pot Pie" recall. Shock [:O] 

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Posted by Brutus on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 7:45 PM
Mitch, when I got to the part about a pot, I just didn't know where your story was going!?  Laugh [(-D]  Glad to hear things are getting better!  Sounds like a great trip!

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Posted by mitchelr on Tuesday, October 9, 2007 7:34 PM

Evening Folks,

Mom was released from the hospital yesterday.  She is really doing well. She and dad are sleeping in separate rooms fro a while so he doen't bump into her and hurt her.  well last night she was trying to get his attention so he could take her to the bathroom.  She said she was shouting at Dad who was asleep in the room across the hall for about 20 minutes.  He finally woke up.  So, now she has a pot and a metal spoon and she bangs the spoon on the pot to wake him up.  What a pair. Both are too stubborn (or cheap) to get hearing aids.  They were going to try a little dinner bell, but he couldn't hear it.

So much going on in the Coffee Pot. 

Colin - sorry to hear about your Knee surgery.  Listen to your Docs and therapists and you will recover nicely.

Chuck, Spankybird, CSXT30 John and other OTTS members - glad you had a good time at the train show last weekend.

LAZ, John/jefelectric, 88-Brent, Fife and other Yorkites - did I read 2:30 on Friday for the photo?  I will be there both days.  I may run into some of you. Happy shopping.

Monday the Mrs. and I are going to Romney to ride the Potomac Eagle.  Should be beautiful. 

 

Take care,

Mitch 

 

 

 

 

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