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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 9, 2007 2:01 PM
You would THINK now wouldn't ya?!?!

Imagine if you read it to mean EACH A-Unit came with 2 motors, you order it, and it comes with only 1 A-Unit with 2 motors... I would be a bit miffed at that point.  The reason I think it is 1 A-Unit with 2 motors is I have rarely, if ever, seen Lionel or MTH produce an A-A or A-B-A set with two powered A Units, even more rare is the all powered A-B-A set!

Now Williams does make all powered A-B-A sets if I am not mistaken...

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Posted by Wes Whitmore on Friday, March 9, 2007 2:24 PM

It's probably a total power issue, more than anything, but since it's a premier set, it should be available in double powered A unit.  Maybe many 100 watt transformers will struggle powering 4 motors at a time at higher speeds. 

My 2-8-0 MTH loco with a single motor does a great job pulling up my test incline.  I have a 0 to 6" incline in 10 sections of track (probably around 100 inches), so around 6% incline.  With just the 4 car consist and tender, it doesn't slip or bog down, and is just barely effected with an 8 car consist.  I can only imagine if it had 2 motors, or better yet, two cars with 2 motors!

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, March 9, 2007 3:06 PM

sent an n scale engine ( yes I know we do O gauge ) into bachmann on the 17th of Feb called today as haven't heard anything or seen the check cashed yet. well called first off they had to find it and when they did they gave me an order number and said it is process as of 9 march 2007 (I ask oh as of today its processed they said yes) then they said it will take 6 to 8 weeks to be worked on and returned to you . I'm wondering now that I'm off the phone if I didn't call how much longer wood it have been sitting there before they got to it lol.

I picked this up and a couple of cars (O gauge) (about $20.00 worth) and 4 passenger cars penn central n scale and the engine is an Santa Fe 4-8-4 with a 16 wheel 52' tender she is pretty but looksa like someone tried to fix it and there is parts missing so for the $15.00 figure it was worth the try anyway got it all for $50.00 so I have about $70.00 into it including shipping but have seen the passenger cars sell for about $50.00 on ebay so figure I'm close anyway on the cars alone and seen the engine go for about $65.00 so if it gets fixed I'm in good.

 

heres a pic of her from bachmann's web site.

 

If I keep her she will have to become either a B&O with penn passenger cars or a Penn central herself lol She is a sweet looking engine and I could put a small loop going around like a mountain on my layout in the far corner to make it look like shes in the far distance.

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Posted by Pennvalley on Friday, March 9, 2007 3:20 PM

 rtraincollector wrote:

I picked this up and a couple of cars (O gauge) (about $20.00 worth) and 4 passenger cars penn central n scale and the engine is an Santa Fe 4-8-4 with a 16 wheel 52' tender she is pretty but looksa like someone tried to fix it and there is parts missing so for the $15.00 figure it was worth the try anyway got it all for $50.00 so I have about $70.00 into it including shipping but have seen the passenger cars sell for about $50.00 on ebay so figure I'm close anyway on the cars alone and seen the engine go for about $65.00 so if it gets fixed I'm in good.

heres a pic of her from bachmann's web site.

 

If I keep her she will have to become either a B&O with penn passenger cars or a Penn central herself lol She is a sweet looking engine and I could put a small loop going around like a mountain on my layout in the far corner to make it look like shes in the far distance.

Heh,I have two of those puppies new in boxes. Don't remember the road names. Bought them & then went with PRR stuff.

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Posted by fifedog on Friday, March 9, 2007 3:37 PM

Evenin' boys.  Started the laundery early, so that I can spend the rest of my weekend tidying up the basement for 88's arrival.  Brent, Tuesday after work will be just fine.  I'll email ya.

In reference to F units with similar numbers, EMD actually delivered solid A-B-B-A sets to the railroads back in the 40's, and they were usually given one number per 4 unit set...something like B&O #86,86A,86B,86B2.  And that's usually how they ran until railroads started splitting up the lash-ups to more efficiently use the power.

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Posted by dwiemer on Friday, March 9, 2007 3:57 PM

 lionroar88 wrote:
You would THINK now wouldn't ya?!?!

Imagine if you read it to mean EACH A-Unit came with 2 motors, you order it, and it comes with only 1 A-Unit with 2 motors... I would be a bit miffed at that point.  The reason I think it is 1 A-Unit with 2 motors is I have rarely, if ever, seen Lionel or MTH produce an A-A or A-B-A set with two powered A Units, even more rare is the all powered A-B-A set!

Now Williams does make all powered A-B-A sets if I am not mistaken...

Brent

Brent, this is one of the things that made the K-Line set so nice, Two powered A units and some even had a powered B unit.  Between 4 and 6 motors in a lashup.  That is nice.  I have the Lackawanna ABA set and it is sweet!  Has TMCC, Railsounds, lots of extras all for under $400.  I hope but don't expect Lionel to make these under K-Lionel.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, March 9, 2007 5:22 PM
I got the K-Line Kennecott Copper Company MP-15 diesel engine and its a powerful engine both front and rear trucks are powered. I haven't been able to test it with a load yet as don't have a layout but I put it to a test track and it had some real power to it. I also have hershey set with A&B units and the a unit is powered and it has some good power to it also. Most K-Line units I have gotten seemed to be powerful engines.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 9, 2007 6:21 PM

Good evening all, well, I had another great day of Seminary stuff, Hebrew etc.  Some of it was good some seemed kinda pointless.  Oh well, this to shall pass.  I just hope I do. LOL  Anyways, I'm home now with the kids watching the original Grease; believe it or not my 5 year old son really likes it a lot.  No, trains yet, maybe later though.

Weather-wise it was a beautiful day out here, clear with a slight breeze in the 60's, just perfect.

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Friday, March 9, 2007 6:58 PM

It was a BEAUTIFUL day in Beautiful. downtown, rural, OHIO.

We had sunshine all day and 65 degrees.

Summer  is  coming.

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Friday, March 9, 2007 9:03 PM

TIRED!!!!!  Just got to hotel.  Sold 22 chargers today.  Constant movement of folks and rest of the sales folks had a slow day.  They were all kidding me about selling so much on a Friday.  Off to room.   Too much dang nab reading when yuo miss a whole day.  BTW: did Dewey relate that his folks in Ohio ran a mill that ground GRITS?  Laugh [(-D]

GOOOD night. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 9, 2007 9:05 PM

 fifedog wrote:

Evenin' boys.  Started the laundery early, so that I can spend the rest of my weekend tidying up the basement for 88's arrival.  Brent, Tuesday after work will be just fine.  I'll email ya.

In reference to F units with similar numbers, EMD actually delivered solid A-B-B-A sets to the railroads back in the 40's, and they were usually given one number per 4 unit set...something like B&O #86,86A,86B,86B2.  And that's usually how they ran until railroads started splitting up the lash-ups to more efficiently use the power.



Fife,
Sounds good.  Looking forward to it!  OK... I'll order the other B-Unit!

 dwiemer wrote:

 lionroar88 wrote:
You would THINK now wouldn't ya?!?!

Imagine if you read it to mean EACH A-Unit came with 2 motors, you order it, and it comes with only 1 A-Unit with 2 motors... I would be a bit miffed at that point.  The reason I think it is 1 A-Unit with 2 motors is I have rarely, if ever, seen Lionel or MTH produce an A-A or A-B-A set with two powered A Units, even more rare is the all powered A-B-A set!

Now Williams does make all powered A-B-A sets if I am not mistaken...

Brent

Brent, this is one of the things that made the K-Line set so nice, Two powered A units and some even had a powered B unit.  Between 4 and 6 motors in a lashup.  That is nice.  I have the Lackawanna ABA set and it is sweet!  Has TMCC, Railsounds, lots of extras all for under $400.  I hope but don't expect Lionel to make these under K-Lionel.

Dennis



Dennis,
I have seen 3 K-Line lashups that I really want... E7 B&Os A-B-B-A, F3s C&O (Blue Color Scheme), and B&O F3s.  The C&O set I saw was TMCC, Railsounds, Cruise, ALL 4 units powered... I just stood there wishing I had the extra $325.00 the fella was asking... three weeks later the house was rented, called him, he sold them 30 minutes after I walked away... I could have cryed!  Seems everytime I see a great deal I'm short in the wallet... I've vowed to set aside money each paycheck, that way I hope to never have that problem again!

Then I find out I have to pick up some software for my side business and that is going to eat into the train fund... I need to land a contract or two...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 9, 2007 9:10 PM
Chief,
Since you sold too much today, does that mean you get to go home early?  LOL!

Wife drug me out furniture shopping... she found her Living Room furniture and I found my new family room furniture... oversized leather couch, chair, and ottoman... antique brass buttons... sat down, nearly pulled a Chief and fell asleep!  Now I have to either find end tables and a coffee table, or I'm going to be purchasing some wood and building them myself... have to find something that isn't too bid, or too small... that was the problem at the store... so looks like a trip to the lumber store...

Fife, and the Southern PA guys... anyone know of a specialty lumber store?  I need to find some 5/4 mahogany stock, and 2x stock for the legs... too bad its so late in the school year, could have had Laz build 'em for me!  LOL!

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Posted by tmcc man on Friday, March 9, 2007 10:09 PM

Good evening everyone,

I am still trying to get over this cold that I have. I just finished watching The Departed, and The Marine. Both are great movies, and they will both soon be in my personal DVD collection.

Well, I am really tired. Will check in tomorrow morning.

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Posted by fifedog on Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:21 AM

Mornin' boys.  Chilly and gray in the Mid-Atlantic today. 

88 - I've got some spare 2x4's you're welcome to... Get most of my furniture needs from ValueCity, or 100 year-old hand-me-downs from Aunt Cookie.  At least my home isn't decorated by Mossy Oak...

Just 2 weeks until the gathering!  Gonna have to brush up on the inner workings of battery chargers so that I can keep the conversation lively and interesting.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:31 AM

Good Morning from Blueberryhill....

It is a cloudy, 52 degrees here. Going up to 60 today, with a chance of rain. All the snow has melted and now, we have grass again.

Today, I am taking it easy. Worked a lot yesterday, around the house. I'd like to spend some time outside, with the boys, if it isn't raining. Later, I want to run trains for a few hours. I'm still working on the road plans. Can't decide where I want a highway. Needs more thought.

Dining Car is here early. Almost everyone is sleeping late today. It's time for breakfast. Cute, young waitress today.

Y'all have a great Saturday.

Chuck

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:44 AM
Fife,
Thanks for the offer, but I'm not looking for pine, I need either mahogany or cherry.  Lowes and Home Despot don't carry what I'm looking for so I need to find a specialty lumber store... I have only ever seen one and it was in Mars, PA.  Don't really want to go back there just to purchase wood, seems like a bit of a waste...

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:28 AM
Here we go again.  Off to the store.  In the 60's and sunny but calling for cloudy.  I think they revised the forecast.  May not rain first part of the week.  Might get to wet a hook.  Hope all have a great day.  I see some Yanks are going to get some deserved rain. Evil [}:)]  Later.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:32 AM

 lionroar88 wrote:
Fife,
Thanks for the offer, but I'm not looking for pine, I need either mahogany or cherry.  Lowes and Home Despot don't carry what I'm looking for so I need to find a specialty lumber store... I have only ever seen one and it was in Mars, PA.  Don't really want to go back there just to purchase wood, seems like a bit of a waste...

Brent

Brent try this web site it was http://www.mcgeelumber.com/ it was listed in yellowpages.com in Baltimore, Md but its acually in N.C. but they say they ship nation wide.

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Posted by tmcc man on Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:46 AM

Good morning everyone,

I'm going to take it really slow here today. For some reason, I feel worse today than any other day that I have been sick. Right now, it's a little cloudy out. I hope that it changes, so I could sit outside in the fresh air.

My grandpop's cancer is further along than we wanted. They did catch it late, but we don't know how far along it is. Thank you guys for keeping him in your prayers, and we still need them.

Oh, by the way, we are getting rid of the DSL lines in our house and we are going to buy the air time card by Verizon so we don't have to plug anything in. It should be great.

Jefelectric I remember a while back you said it would be great if they could come out with a wireless battey charger. Well, a company has made a prototype that can recharge cellphone, iPods, etc. I think it is pretty cool.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:32 AM
Bill,
Thanks for the link!  I actually located a place in Gaithersburg, about 20 minutes from the new house.  I think they will be getting quite a bit of business from me in the Summer...

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:37 AM

Good morning all; its 53 degrees and overcast here this morning with a forecast of rain.  Its gonna be a day around the house with the kids today.  I'll be catching up on some school work today, gotta make sure I'm ready for mid-terms.

We'll probably run the Pole Ex today and watch it run in circles; *sigh* gotta get some tubular track for my benchwork...........

Has anyone gotten the newest issue of CTT yet?  I just subscribed the other day and was wondering about the new issue.

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:51 AM
 ATSJer wrote:

Good morning all; its 53 degrees and overcast here this morning with a forecast of rain.  Its gonna be a day around the house with the kids today.  I'll be catching up on some school work today, gotta make sure I'm ready for mid-terms.

We'll probably run the Pole Ex today and watch it run in circles; *sigh* gotta get some tubular track for my benchwork...........

Has anyone gotten the newest issue of CTT yet?  I just subscribed the other day and was wondering about the new issue.

ATSJer......There are 9 issues of CTT in a year. April is one of the missing 3. ( Darn )..The next issue is May 2007.

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Posted by dwiemer on Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:57 AM

Good Morning everyone.  Watching "This Old House", it has become my 4yo son's favorite show.  Wife is under the weather and I have a birthday party to bring my kids to, so little if any train work today.

ATSJer, As I recall, it took a few weeks before I started to get my CTT.  This is of course subject to a number of things.  One is that the CTT is not monthly per se, but that it comes out 9 times per year, so depending on when you joined, it may be a few weeks, or better than a month.  The best thing would be to call the customer service, they are  fantastic.

Hope everyone has a great day.

Dennis

PS: I am not sure which seminary my SS teacher was a professor at, but will check.

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Posted by csxt30 on Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:23 AM

Good Morning Everyone !!

Hoping when we get the next issue of May's CTT, maybe they will have our CTT truck ready for ordering !! Plus the reefer car, but I only want the truck !!  Wonder if they are close to getting it ready ? !

Raining here, but warmer.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend !!

Oh, here is my steel hauling truck !  Found some nice chain materials on E-bay for tie downs, for later !

  

Thanks, John

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Posted by cnw1995 on Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:24 AM
Good morning from a sunny and warming Crystal Lake where I am recovering (similar to Brent) from an evening of furniture shopping. Fortunately, I escaped with the bride only buying a couch... I'm trying to round up someone to go to the DuPage train show nee swap meet tomorrow. Tonight my wife's college roomate shows up for dinner with her husband and kids - ugh. Well, maybe I can interest the boys in the trains.

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Posted by tmcc man on Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:12 PM
Ok, I just found out that my grandfather has stage 3 prostate cancer. I am a little upset about it, but I know they are doing everything they can to help him.
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Posted by Brutus on Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM

MOrning guys.  So this Gathering....  If you hear the Chief muttering There Can Be Only One and he pulls out an old Cavalry Saber, you better Keep Your Heads About You and get your Grits Out of There Fast!  (cue Highlander music - Who Wants to Live Forever!) Wink [;)]

Just got done watching Steamboy.  The rest of the family faded and left, but I stuck through to the end.  Pretty good scifi with lots of cool retro-tech steam power.  No real moral, it's just way to complex of a story and good guys are a little bad and bad guys are a little good etc.

Tom (SPANKYBIRD) - what did you use to attach the wood to that old Marx water tower?  Super glue???

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Posted by Brutus on Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:23 PM
Colin, sorry our posts crossed.  I'm very sorry to hear that, but I've seen cases with stage 6 (? Gleason Score 6) that were cured by surgery etc.  Has it spread, or is it still just in the prostate?  God bless you and your family and grant your grandad the best care possible.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:54 PM

Colin,
Your grandfather will be in my prayers!  Hopefully the cancer has not spread to other organs, if it has not then removal of the prostate should clear it up.  Keep us updated on his progrnosis, how are his spirits?  Is he positive?  If so, and he stays that way, he'll do fine!  I know it's tough, but stay positive, you being there for him and showing your support will mean the world to him right now.

God Bless.

Brent

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:57 PM
Doug,
Wow you got off easy!  My wife has decided she needs:

Living Room:
Couch
Chair
Ottoman

Family Room:
Couch
Chair
Ottoman
Rocker/Recliner
Coffee Table
2 End Tables

All I wanted was the couch, chair, and ottoman for the Family room... I'm trying to convince her to let me build the end tables and coffee table.  I want to build an entertainment center for the big screen TV, she isn't thrilled about that idea either... I know what I want, and I've not been able to find what I want, so I figure 'Build it... They will come...'

Brent

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