Trains.com

RE:COFFEE POT #3 March 2011 for all to take a drink and chat. 5+ years and going. Some extra windy days and some rain. Plenty of coffee but also grits and sweet ice tea.

63228 views
872 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: South Carolina
  • 9,713 posts
Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, March 25, 2011 9:42 AM

Traindood that is the problem prisons is to much luxury anymore like 88 said go back to where they were required to do work to pay for there stay I'm not saying ball n chain but lets get rid of the luxury of being in prison. and as you said I think I said enough for now.

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

http://rtssite.shutterfly.com/

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Sparta, N.J.
  • 344 posts
Posted by traindood on Friday, March 25, 2011 9:23 AM

Hey fifedog:    Stumbled across your spread in CTT in Jan '08. Layout is sweeeeeeeet!!    I wonder if there is any connection between the door busting prison population and the pablum pukeing...........no, i think said enough for now.    We must control ourselves now. later. 

Think good thoughts, do good deeds! 

 

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • 8,050 posts
Posted by fifedog on Friday, March 25, 2011 9:10 AM

Mornin' boys. Chilly.

Where do judges come from?  No need to comment further on that.

88 - Nice to see you posting again. Captain

tgif

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Sparta, N.J.
  • 344 posts
Posted by traindood on Friday, March 25, 2011 9:09 AM

Hey chief:      Curious, is that a brandy new m14 out of new old stock or a used one.  Also, got my first expert badge with the 1911 '45.  If you ran out of bullets you could use it as a club!  later.  

Think good thoughts, do good deeds! 

 

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 25, 2011 8:54 AM

Does our Legal System have its problems? Yes. Is it the best on the planet - by far!

Sorry if this steps on some toes. The reason for our Legal System being the way it is because of the rampant corruption in the past that plagued Police Departments. The Police used to have unfetted control and they could torture a person into a confession. We are supposed to be Innocent until proven Guilty, but that mentality does not hold true in Traffic Court. There the Officer's word is, in many cases, gospel. I couldn't tell you how many times an officer messed up my ticket (wrong car manufacturer, color, wrong address - even though they were given 2 of 3 pieces of identification with the correct address, etc) my account was different from the officer's yet because I had no witnesses the officer's word was taken over mine. I could go on and on.

Our Legal System is designed in such a way that emotion is supposed to be checked at the door when it comes to weighting the facts, evidence, testimony, and applying that to the Law. It is very difficult for humans to do that. IMHO, the jury is put in a precarious position. Most of the time none of them will have any understanding of the Law, so they are being asked to apply their logic to the diliberation process. This can be good, or it can be bad. Our Judges are also asked to be lienient and have compassion, this is why many people get multiple chances to straighten out their life, some do, some don't. It is those that don't that continue to do harm that we hear about, not the ones who do straighten out their lives. Our Legal System also promotes the concept of 'rehabilitation', this is why parents who abuse their children are given chance after chance to stop.

I would suggest that we go back to 'hard time' where prisoners actually WORK while they are in prison. Used to be that prisons grew crops, raised cattle, etc to feed the inmates and it was the inmates that tended to the crops and cattle. They also had to cook... clean up... etc. They also had jobs to do maintaining the State's vehicles, stamping license plates, repairing the prison, etc.

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Crystal Lake, IL
  • 8,059 posts
Posted by cnw1995 on Friday, March 25, 2011 8:23 AM

Aloha. Winter here again but it's Friday! Our girls team heads off to play Duke in the next round of the tournament so we could wear blue today - as in jeans for me. LOL. Looks like the bride has packed full our weekend. Sigh.

Doug Murphy 'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...' Henry V.

  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: South Carolina
  • 9,713 posts
Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, March 25, 2011 8:14 AM

Jack and others you have every right to be ranting about our so call legal systems as you all have said these officers and the DA office puts hours into bringing these folks to trial so some 2 bit lawyer ( defending) can get this loop hole or that loop hole to get it reduced to a slap on the hand compared to the victims fate or nothing at all. Its about time they look at some other countries not sure anymore but when I was in Italy back in the 70 we were told if a driver hits a pedestrian and cripples or kill him/her he is require to support there family for the rest of there natural life.

Now there's a law we could use to start with.

Morning all not a lot going on here. Off today and relaxing plan later to go get a few hairs cut on my head as there getting thin up there a little so don't want to many cut Smile

hope to work on my self/ceiling layout some more. About time for breakfast so probably drop in later

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

http://rtssite.shutterfly.com/

  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Rolesville, NC
  • 15,416 posts
Posted by ChiefEagles on Friday, March 25, 2011 8:08 AM

Morning all.  Yankees, take your chilly weather back. Angry  Temps really dropped.  Cloudy.  Suppose to rain tomorrow and some Sunday.  We need it even though we are having a family fishing derby tomorrow.  Finn and Lucy at groomers.  Now for more coffee and watch predator hunting on DVR.  Then run errands.

Roy, forwarded your post to IRS.  They seem very interested. Whistling

Snowhio in PA????  Laugh  LAZ, when are you going to shoot that groundhog like I did. Devil

I had to close up greenhouse and turn heat back on as some nights are to get into the high 30's. Sad

Later

 God bless TCA 05-58541   Benefactor Member of the NRA,  Member of the American Legion,   Retired Boss Hog of Roseyville Laugh,   KC&D QualifiedCowboy       

              

  • Member since
    November 2007
  • From: Cape Ann Taxachusetts
  • 3,780 posts
Posted by RockIsland52 on Friday, March 25, 2011 7:26 AM

Good Mornin' Ya'll From Chilly Taxachusetts,

SJ and Jon got it right.  To me, law enforcement does its best, too often at the risk of their own lives.  The revolving door......there is something seriously wrong with our judicial system which hands down a sentence where clearly that sentence does not fit the crime, either on its own merits or on a comparative basis as SJ suggests.  SJ lost a sister, Jon a neighbor's significant other, and I a friend.  They are gone.  What is the value of their lives?  Apparently not much.....for the victim, their families, and their friends.  

In my friend's scenario the defense attorney hammered away at the accident reconstruction officer whose credentials and experience were beyond reproach.  It was that officer's due diligence and caring for doing the best possible analysis and evidence delivery that sealed the defendant's fate.     

Since there were no eye witnesses in this case to the actual impact, and a whole host of "possibilities and unknowns" open to scrutiny, that officer nonetheless took the facts and evidence, applied physics and science, took on the assaults of the defense to his analysis and conclusion, and delivered his message with a firm, objective demeanor, never once waivering and never once letting the defense get under his skin. 

I was also stunned when the DA was allowed to introduce new evidence, not permitted during the trial phase, to support the presecution's sentencing recommendation.  That evidence revealed a very troubled defendant who was clearly a ticking time bomb behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.  Tragedy was only a matter of time.  Tragedy and loss of life was delivered.  The defendant had prior "courtesies, benefit of the doubt, and leniency" that established a pattern of callousness and recklessness that should not have been afforded to him.        

Hence my rants.  Please accept my apologies for pontificating on this.  On the road we are surrounded every day by drivers who should not even have a driver's license let alone be out on the road behind the wheel of a 4,000 pound weapon.  Our driving experience, caution, and attentiveness to our driving, are our only defenses.

Enough said.

Jack

IF IT WON'T COME LOOSE BY TAPPING ON IT, DON'T TRY TO FORCE IT. USE A BIGGER HAMMER.

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: North Texas
  • 5,707 posts
Posted by wrmcclellan on Friday, March 25, 2011 7:20 AM

Good morning all!

Been busy the last couple of days. Have to work hard and save up for York! Intead of sending money to the Chief - I claim my trains as dependents - big deductions!

Beautiful here - low 80's and low humidity, but the low humidity is coming to an end today. The bad news is we are already 4 inches behind on rain this year and this month so far is the driest on record and onlt one day of possible rain in sight for next week.

Jack - so sorry for your friend and your grief in this time. I agree with you.

Got up extra early today due to conference call with European office and forgot they do not go to daylight savings time until this weekend - so I got up an hour earlier for no reason......

I think the new car show comes to town this weekend. Have to go check out the new Camaro convertible.

Have a great day all!

Regards, Roy

  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: S.E. Ohio
  • 5,434 posts
Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Friday, March 25, 2011 6:40 AM

Good Morning from Blueberryhill....

It is a cold 22 degrees. Going up to 34 today with some sunshine.

Today is an easy day. I have some paperwork to do and the usual chores. Later, I can relax in the train room. Need to dust again.

Buckeye & LAZ....TGIF

Dining car is here with the usual for breakfast.

Y'all have a great Friday.

Chuck

Chuck # 3 I found my thrill on Blueberryhill !!
  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Millersburg, Pa.
  • 7,607 posts
Posted by laz 57 on Friday, March 25, 2011 5:58 AM

Hi GUYZ,

  22 and cold here, awaiting more SNO HI O for Sunday.

CHUCK and BUCKEYE, TGIF!!!!

Stay frosty,

laz57

  There's a race of men that don't fit in, A race that can't stay still; Robert Service. TCA 03-55991
  • Member since
    January 2001
  • From: US
  • 5,369 posts
Posted by cheapclassics on Friday, March 25, 2011 4:59 AM

Good morning all,

And it is a good morning in SE Indiana as Butler won again last night, and the weather will be cloudy with some precip in the forecast as well and temps in the 30s and 40s.  Good day at work yesterday.  Good night at home as well.  Will be a busy weekend as well with a train show and possibly some soccer games to ref and Indycar on Sunday along with a visit from the grandkids.  I had the regular fare on the dining car for breakfast before sending it to "Points East".  TBIL anytime and I can drive (I DO have a copy of the real keys).  I hope everyone has a good day.

Keep on training,

Mike C. from Indiana

  • Member since
    January 2010
  • From: Maryville, TN
  • 1,701 posts
Posted by Demay on Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:08 PM

Good evening all,

I just finished watching Duke lose against Arizona.  I guess Duke forgot that basketball games consist of two halves since they went into halftime with a lead.  Arizona crushed them in the second half and Duke fell apart. 

I had brief, but good chats with Brutus, RT, and SJ tonight.  I couldn't chat long as they had major world issues to resolve. 

Brutus - I hope your wife's new medication works well.  Thumbs UpThumbs Up to your daughter.

Good night,

Joe

  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Rolesville, NC
  • 15,416 posts
Posted by ChiefEagles on Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:04 PM

traindood

Hey Chief:          Oh yea, I forgot the AR 15, my bad, must be slippin', wouldn't of happend five years ago.  I lose millions of brains cells every day!!  Now where was I?  That's right, I was puttin' my bib on!   Confused   later.

AR15 is OK but I am not an AR fan.  My new one is a M14.  I carried that until issued a M16.  Then later issued a 1911 [.45 semi-auto pistol].  Then later issued another M14. 

Tomorrow is only one meeting.  Lucy and Finn go to groomers early.  Saturday is a family fishing derby.  I am to "host it" and hand out prises.  Calling for rain [which we need].  We did have .8 last night.

Sleep tight.

 God bless TCA 05-58541   Benefactor Member of the NRA,  Member of the American Legion,   Retired Boss Hog of Roseyville Laugh,   KC&D QualifiedCowboy       

              

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: St. Louis, MO
  • 4,913 posts
Posted by Brutus on Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:59 PM

Found 'em last night, while I was cleaning up after the trip, thanks SJ Thumbs Up

Wife got some new medicine for this recurrent CDIF stuff.  This is vancomycin and cost us $40 for 56 pills.  It cost the insurance over 1700!  I sure hope this works!  They did't do the count right, so she had to go back and the pharmacist redid it.  In the end, she was right and got all her medicine.

Went to my daughter's concert at school tonight - she was good and besides singing with the group, she also played drums behind some soloists.  I wish they would do more songs that people know versus all the songs from other countries.  I guess the teachers get bored with the same old stuff, but come on....

Chief - you are filling up that gun safe!  You'll need another one pretty soon Thumbs Up

Nice chats with RT, SJ and Joe tonight.  About ready to get going, but only banilla for me tonight as I already had a piece of leftover cake Smile

RIP Chewy - best dog I ever had.

  • Member since
    April 2007
  • From: MICH
  • 8,153 posts
Posted by sir james I on Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:42 PM

Good evening

33 today. Where's the global warming?

Well I thumbed Jan.CTT today, looks like some good articles, may take awhile to get through it. Brutus the real keys to the Thingy are on the sun visor, banilla will be ready...S.J.

"IT's GOOD TO BE THE KING",by Mel Brooks 

  Charter Member- Tardis Train Crew (TTC)   - Detroit3railers-  Detroit Historical society Glancy Modular trains- Charter member BTTS

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Sandy Eggo
  • 5,608 posts
Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:17 PM

John & Dood,

When I have a lot of "catching-up to do" I use a trick that I believe came from RI Jack. If your system will do it, I open CTT in two windows. One for reading and the other for posting. Unfortunately, sometimes I forget to open the second window. ConfusedConfused Huh? 

Remember the Veterans. Past, present and future.

www.sd3r.org

Proud New Member Of The NRA

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Sparta, N.J.
  • 344 posts
Posted by traindood on Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:55 PM

Hey Chief:          Oh yea, I forgot the AR 15, my bad, must be slippin', wouldn't of happend five years ago.  I lose millions of brains cells every day!!  Now where was I?  That's right, I was puttin' my bib on!   Confused   later.

Think good thoughts, do good deeds! 

 

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Adel, Iowa
  • 2,292 posts
Posted by jonadel on Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:50 PM

Jack  -- it truly is a sad day for everyone, I can totally empathize with you -- our neighbor lost her significant other 18 months ago, hit and run.  Two illegals sped away leaving a gas station without paying and hit him head on on his motorcycle coming home from work.  He never knew what hit him, the driver got 10 years and his brother (passenger) had been deemed incompetent to stand trial.  These two were also involved in a police shoot out 5 years ago and it never went to trial -- DA is in deep doo doo on that one.

Makes our daily travails seem petty.  Hope he can get some professional guidance.

Jon

So many roads, so little time. 

 

  • Member since
    April 2007
  • From: MICH
  • 8,153 posts
Posted by sir james I on Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:45 PM

Thanks Doug M, my sisters death was not recent it was 1998. Her 3 daughters still have problems accepting her death..Jim

"IT's GOOD TO BE THE KING",by Mel Brooks 

  Charter Member- Tardis Train Crew (TTC)   - Detroit3railers-  Detroit Historical society Glancy Modular trains- Charter member BTTS

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Crystal Lake, IL
  • 8,059 posts
Posted by cnw1995 on Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:48 PM

Aloha. See the sun peeking through the clouds, but cold! Last week of mid-week services serving as video director tonight. Nice long write-up in the Chicago Tribune on railfans - made us not sound crazy... Jack and SJ, my condolences on your losses. It is hard...  Drove the bride to get her license renewed. Big prep for her new license photo - she had to be perfect. I think it's a gender thing. LOL. When it was my turn, I just took off my hat. Big Smile.  Drove around Woodstock's square - where Groundhog Day was filmed. Back home, I took an old book off the shelf to recycle - ended up getting sucked into cleaning out all our bookshelves. Got all my stuff organized.

Doug Murphy 'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...' Henry V.

  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Rolesville, NC
  • 15,416 posts
Posted by ChiefEagles on Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:22 PM

Buckeye Riveter

Taxes back from CPA.  They tell me I owe a bunch of $$$$$$$ because some guy in North Carolina is to get a huge refund.   Somehow, there was a big math error and they need everyone to help pay this tar heeler. 

"Antae" up my buds.  Pay now so my refund check comes by April 1 as promised.  Got to pay for that M14 rifle.  Double payments from all in Ohio.

Later

 God bless TCA 05-58541   Benefactor Member of the NRA,  Member of the American Legion,   Retired Boss Hog of Roseyville Laugh,   KC&D QualifiedCowboy       

              

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Sparta, N.J.
  • 344 posts
Posted by traindood on Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:14 PM

Hey John:  (jefelectric)    We must be on the same wavelength. I gotta write this stuff down; starting to go on info overload!  Dunce  Only downside to grandkids living close is you gotta feed 'em.  Brother, can they eat!   Wifey said to me yesterday,"who ate all the bacon?"  "I'll give you one guess." i said.   When they got done all I had left was two Ritz crackers and some mustard!  Laugh  later.     

Think good thoughts, do good deeds! 

 

  • Member since
    November 2007
  • From: Cape Ann Taxachusetts
  • 3,780 posts
Posted by RockIsland52 on Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:13 PM

dougdagrump

Mornin' All.

Jack_It is always hard to lose a loved one, but under these circumstances it is even harder to understand or accept. Your eloquence truly conveys what the impact of such a senseless act causes. Based on your knowledge of your friend would he have the strength to use this loss to speak out and help to educate others much the same as the founder of MADD ? Either way the best we can do is stand with our friends and be there for them whenever they need a shoulder to lean on or someone to talk with. Angel

................

Coffee refill time !

Later 

DougDG, Ray, and all......thanks for your thoughtful words.  

My buddy is a quiet, humble , and unassuming guy.  But I saw a side in him yesterday I had never seen before, when he was permitted to deliver a victim impact statement to the convicted defendant (emotionless from the start of the trial to the finish)  and to the court after the sentencing.  

Powerful, moving, and heartbreaking.......the only way I can explain his statement.  A lot of tears freely flowed on our side of the isle, men as well as women, myself included, as my buddy delivered his statement.  I don't know if he could ever relive this horror yet again.   I am proud to be his friend. 

The defendant had waived his right to a jury trial and opted to let the judge make the final ruling.  The judge held nothing back in his closing remarks when recounting the defendant's gross negligence and an incident that he termed unquestionably avoidable.

On a final note, I cannot understate my respect and admiration for the state and local police, the fire department, the EMTs, and the District Attorney's office.  They performed their duties flawlessly and professionally in what could only be described as gruesome and challenging circumstances.  Justice was served only because they did everything they could and missed nothing.

Jack

IF IT WON'T COME LOOSE BY TAPPING ON IT, DON'T TRY TO FORCE IT. USE A BIGGER HAMMER.

  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Glendora, Calif.
  • 2,672 posts
Posted by SPMan on Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:33 PM

Good morning all, Verizon due today for FIOS hook up.  We had a little rain yesterday but nothing like Doug in San Diego.  Tried the pulled pork bar-b-que last night that I got from Costco.  It was OK but Eastern Carolina Bar-B-Que, it ain't.  No substitute for the real thing.

Jack, unfortunately at the end of these things, all you can do is move on.  Prayers for all concerned.

Papers full of stories about Liz.  Quite a gal!  My sister met her once when she worked on a campaign for Senator Warner.  She said Liz invited them to some kind of lunch one day and my sister told her that she wasn't sure they were suppose to be there.  However, Liz said, "Well you know how to eat don't you".  So they did.

Train friend of mine who is also a Jazz musician just got back from trip to New Orleans.  He said he got invited by the tour guide to give talk on history of jazz for the people in the group.  I'm sure he knew a lot more about it than the tour guide.  Folks on the tour got their money's worth that day.

later,SP Ray

SPMan

              

 

              

 

              

 

              

 

              

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:03 PM

SJ,

       That store was the highlight of my week in the area.  I was in there twice during the week, and I can't wait to go back this summer.  It's not just that store either.  Berlin is loaded with antique stores.  Makes burning to a crisp at Assateague worthwhile.

JohnF,

             I sent you a PM containing the link.

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Sandy Eggo
  • 5,608 posts
Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:19 AM

Mornin' All.

Jack_It is always hard to lose a loved one, but under these circumstances it is even harder to understand or accept. Your eloquence truly conveys what the impact of such a senseless act causes. Based on your knowledge of your friend would he have the strength to use this loss to speak out and help to educate others much the same as the founder of MADD ? Either way the best we can do is stand with our friends and be there for them whenever they need a shoulder to lean on or someone to talk with. Angel

Rained like the dickens again last nite, if this keeps up the shrinks will have to come up with a new psychosis. The Flatrock Syndrome, feeling like a flatrock and Pat's cows are airborne far to frequently. Lots of blue sky this morning however more rain for this afternoon & evening. Bang Head

CNW_You're welcome. Wink

Museum motive power all packed and ready to go, two MTH GP-7's, an Atlas GP-9 and K-Line GP-38. All freight all day, mite even try a DCS Record & Playback with two consists running in opposing directions. Cowboy

Coffee refill time !

Later 

Remember the Veterans. Past, present and future.

www.sd3r.org

Proud New Member Of The NRA

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Central PA
  • 2,536 posts
Posted by jefelectric on Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:06 AM

Good morning,

As usual after reading all the posts, I can't remember all of them, must take notes as I go. Embarrassed

John & Jim thanks for the offer of the video link, would appreciate it.

Rained most of the night and is supposed to clear up, but haven't seen the sun yet.

Traindood, isn't it nice to have grandsons living close by? Big Smile

Got a few errands to run today and that's about it.

John

John Fullerton Home of the BUBB&A  http://www.jeanandjohn.net/trains.html
  • Member since
    February 2008
  • From: Sparta, N.J.
  • 344 posts
Posted by traindood on Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:36 AM

Morning:  Lots to say:   John;  9inches.  Distracted driving: People here are so preoccupied wih all sorts of things, it's a wonder there isn't more fatalities.  On Rt. 80 I saw once a young girl painting her toenails with one foot on the dashboard!!     Stick out tongue    Chief: My favorite all time rifle is an  03 Springfield.  Can't beat the accuracy for a mass produced weapon. Later on used the Garand, too many jammys. M14 was pretty good; beat the heck out of that one, better than the early M16's until they fixed them.    Sir James;   My two cents: change Doctors.  been there, done that.   Last but not least,  a big   Happy B-Day    to  Eric Weiss (Houdini)    

Think good thoughts, do good deeds! 

 

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

FREE EMAIL NEWSLETTER

Get the Classic Toy Trains newsletter delivered to your inbox twice a month