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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:01 PM

Good day Tom and all in attendance, Drinks on me. (I'm going to go broke at this rate).

 Tom: I'll change my guess for reaching 100 to Aug 22. Hope you have a nice trip.

 Jan/Eric: I enjoy those pictures of the Scandinavian electrics. Being a poor man, I can only dream about owning models of all those electrics, but if I were rich, I would open a museum and have all the electrics (and steam and diesel) on display and in operation. One man did just that, build a museum. Visit the following link http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3893040 for an extraordinary model railroad. My visit last year whetted my appetite for HO trains, but I have too many irons in the fire right now. I don't have the actual figures, but there is about 3 actual miles of track, hundreds of bridges and about 15 trains running at the same time. The walking tour throughout the layout is a mile long. I believe he has 15 million dollars invested in it and still adding on to it. If you took any foreign electric, removed the buffers and installed knuckle couplers, they would look right at home here.

Jan: I've never had Haggis nor am I brave enough to try it. Tip: If you have left over Haggis, you can get Haggis helper at your grocer. Laugh [(-D]

Pete: The PRR, E-6 no.460 is preserved and resides in the Railroad museum of Pennsylvania in Strasburg, Pa. The actual DD-1 is not, but they have one other DD-1 (two sections back-to-back) on display.

CM3: Although I don't follow baseball anymore (After the Giants left New York), I do have a framed picture of Joe DiMaggio and Red Barber that I picked up at a flea market. I don't know if it's worth much. I will try to scan it and post in the forum.

 

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Posted by JanOlov on Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:26 PM

Tom and all magicians.....

DD1, WOW! That is some serious work, to say the least. Just passed by to see some pictures of it here http://rides.webshots.com/album/156431384irrjYU?start=0 impressive!

A wee question folks.... Why is it that some companies are called RAILROAD and some other RAILWAY? What is the difference? Is it a southern, northern, eastern or western thing?

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:38 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, ‘tis the Larsman with a hankerin' for one of my Specials - talkin' sandwiches, of course! <grin> Make it a hero with ham, Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH and two extra large crunchy pickles from the barrel. Round for the house, a Schaefer for me, ‘n the change is YOURS! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Boris, feed the crittAHs ‘n that small jar of PPF is YOURS! Thumbs Up [tup] Don't forget to take Artie OUTBACK for his field mouse! <ugh>

I'm on a short-string myself today - so, thanks to all who have shown up (thus far)!! Thumbs Up [tup]

Boss-lady wants me off this Censored [censored] contraption ‘n back to "work" - translated: do what she wants me to do. <arrrrrggggghhhh> I wanna go back to sea!

Wanted to mention:

Da Boss: Good stuff on "TT" scale!! I had pretty much put that out of my feeble mind all these years. Wow!! [wow] I recall seeing ads for them in many model RR mags over the years. Then, gone-zo. Now I know why! Really a nice offering for the OPTIONAL Toy & Model Trains Day! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Wonder if the guys are getting the most current info, as I find it hard to believe some have logged in and not even mentioned your efforts! Almost like it wasn't there. Thumbs Down [tdn]

For ALL: Gotta use the REFRESH feature we used to harp on not that long ago. Thumbs Up [tup]

One thing I learned early on is to LOOK at your post and the one right before it BEFORE checking out. Many times I've caught one that wasn't there when preparing my "stuff," then when I put it out, zap - thar she blows! So a WOID to DA WISE! <grin>

Jan: No apologies needed, mate! Just a matter of learning the "ropes" if you will.

We've had a few guys over time who'vebeen absolutely rude ‘n ridiculous when it came to being inclusive ‘n the like. Didn't bother reading the posts ‘n hardly ever answered questions directed their way, etc. Totally blew off saying anything about the efforts of others.

What Da Boss has set up is what attracted me. I like the way the bar is operated. As with him, hit ‘n run crap just doesn't get it. We're here to enjoy one another and from what I've seen, you're doing just fine. Reciprocal is the word I like to keep in mind. Thumbs Up [tup]

I see you've taken on the job as Chief Chef  Chef [C=:-)]  ‘round here. Just let me know when you can make yourself available for the "in house indoctrination ‘n full immersion program"! <huh?>

As Manager, you'll find that I'm tough, but fair. Just ask Pete, our Bar Chandler! <grin> Da Boss has already told ya that the pay stinks, so you won't be disappointed. There'll be a "dipper" on a hook with your name on it - we have an upstairs bath tub full o' cash - on pay day, just take a ‘dip' - whatever your "dipper" holds is yours! Size of the "dipper" to be determined by the Manager! <uh oh>

Ron: Great articles ‘n very insightful. Thumbs Up [tup] I used to eat like you mentioned - then as with the Cap'n, doctors said put some slack in the table cloth. So I did. Still a big eater, but the Mrs. keeps an "eye" on me . . . <uh oh>

Share your appreciation for electrics, especially the GG1. Yeah!! [yeah]

Allan: Sign - Welcome [#welcome] back, Mate! Seemed like a long time away. Sorry to learn that your Mrs. has the SAME malady that mine has. Never met a retail store she didn't want to spend hours in. <arrrrrgggghhhh>

Pete: Gotta hand it to ya, you certainly have learned the old adage well - can't say "no' ‘til you ask. Answer is NO! <sorry>

Enjoy the trip with Da Boss! Thumbs Up [tup]

Today Da Boss is ridin' the rails with Pete to Kansas City, Missouri. Hope the air conditioning is working!! <phew> And of course, the brew is COLD! <grin> So, let's see what's in the hopper to compliment the day!

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Ruth, we're runnin' just a bit late (for me), so the <ahem> admin work will have to be a rush job . . . <uh oh> Boris, disengage the cameras ‘n lock the stairwell! <grin>

I'm gone ‘til Tuesday - Da Boss KNOWS! . . . .

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [<div style=

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Posted by EricX2000 on Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:53 PM

Good afternoon Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Oh, that is right! The Captain is out traveling by train this beautiful day together with out car chandler! Hmmm. Ruth, good to see you. Most of the times I get here you are busy helping the manager with admin work. No, no, I not going to tell. I would like a double cheese burger, please.

A quick stop to show sa few pictures from years long gone. For 4 years I was mostly running EMU (commuter trains) on a short line (35 miles) south of Stockholm. It was a single track and old fashioned signaling system. Here are a few pictures showing a typical stop at a small town and meeting a northbound EMU. 

 

Approaching the town. The home signal is showing two green lights = max 40 km/h.

 

After stopping the dispather is coming out to set the switches and signals for the other train.

 

2 minutes later the meeting train is arriving. Like my own train it is only one unit, Class X1.

 

 

Two more pictures from this side of the Artlantic Ocean.

Union Station, Washington D.C.

 

 

Philadelphia. Some Amtrak and NJ Transit equipment.

 

I'll be back later.

Eric 

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Posted by West Coast S on Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:00 PM

Good day gents, well its official, today i'm the head man,#1 boss of my domain, promotion approved!!! Time for some new employees and new ways of doing business!!! Round for all, only the very best barkeep, keep that critter juice out of the mix.

Lars, gawd I hate roof maintaince, especially my desert property where a re-roof is good for only a couple of years, paint life is even less, hoist one for me...

Tom, good to see you again, the highlight of my travels was encountering four former SP geep forties in patched format heading a eastbound mixed manifist east of Tucson, as god intended, two UP dash somethings were in DPU mode at the rear, they were not too grungy or faded a surprising find as its been a loooog time since i've seen something other then Armour Yellow. I've discovered some research material on San Francisco /Transbay ferry service from the golden years that is quite fascinating in its own right and will require further study...

DD1,CMSP&P, good coverage of all things electric, must admit to be being torn between steam and heavy electric operations, I have considered devoting some resources to heavy electric operation in S scale, tough to pass up.....Um? Sacramento Northern in S anybody?

Eric. Wish you a speedy recovery, keep your well being in my thoughts...

Well, heck back to the timeclock

Dave

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Posted by EricX2000 on Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:35 PM

Hi again!

Leon? Oh she is? Hmmm. Okay, no just a ham sandwich and an ice cold Keith's. Thank you!

I have been reading everything posted today and found some interesting facts and pictures!

JanOlov –  A bunch of very nice electrics!Thumbs Up [tup] Great Northern, Milwaukee Road and a number of Dm3’s from the old country! Dm3 was built to pull heavy iron ore trains north of the Arctic Circle. Kind of slow (46.6 mph) but extremely powerful, 9,655 hp and a traction effort of 960 kN. They are now gradually being replaced by even more powerful locomotives, Class IORE.

I like those pictures of the electric Class Ma, the diesel hydraulic T21, and the electric Class F! I have been operating all of them many, many times.Wink [;)]

Thanks for the link to the pictures of the Northlandz layout!Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom –  That is what I thought, you being in your early 30’s!! Wink [;)]
I have the same opinion about life so far as you do! A few things I could have done differently, but as a whole not bad.

Hope your trip today was a ood one without any major delays!Yeah!! [yeah]

Pete –  Very interesting info on the British named locos! Looking forward to next part!

How many times did you manage to get away from Captain Tom? Hope it was a good trip!

CM3 –  Thanks for the info on the Queen and Crescent Limited”!Thumbs Up [tup] There must have a lot of negotiations between the different railroads to put all that together.

Ron –  That is what I call a layout!Wow!! [wow] It is more than a fulltime job to build and maintain it! Wink [;)]

I have decided to start collecting models of all types and classes of locomotives I have been running. It is going to cost a lot, but I’ll give it a try.Smile [:)]

Lars –  Amtrak! I guess my feelings for Amtrak are kind of warm because of the year I spent with them! Nice book cover with a F40 turned cab car and the video cases! I have been thinking for a long time to get some of the Northeast Corridor videos.Smile [:)]

Dave –  Thank you, everything is going better than expected! Even the doctors are impressed.Smile [:)] 

Congratulations to your promotion Yeah!! [yeah] and thanks for the round!!!

 

Where in Montreal is this?

 

Eric 

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Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, August 17, 2007 6:46 AM

Good Morning All

Figured I'd better make an appearance before Tom's Raiders came after me... Again! Not much on the go as In had to disembark from the vessel due to an illness in the family. So not much else on the go, Though I am looking to by a CN Northern by True Line Trains

Later All

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"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!
Posted by siberianmo on Friday, August 17, 2007 8:57 AM

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G'day Gents!

Home again, tired ‘n happy for the time on the rails, but not so MUCH! <phew> Got back to Kirkwood at 12:25 AM today. <zzz> Seems that Amtrak in Missouri stops for freights - at each ‘n every siding between St. Louis ‘n Kansas City! <groan> I believe UP must've had EVERY coal train in their inventory on the main lines yesterday. <ugh>

More later . . .

Many THANX to Lars (once) ‘n Eric (twice) for making those ‘special' mid-day Posts during my absence. As it turned out, the "flow" was just fine yesterday ‘n it appears all's well! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Looks like the evening was a "bust" though, as nary a customer passed through the portals . . . Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill! <grin>

CONTEST underway: All we need is the date when you think we'll hit the century mark! Thumbs Up [tup]

(1) CM3 Shane sez Monday, Aug 20th

(2) Jan sez Saturday, Aug 25th

(3) Pete says Thursday, Aug 30th

(4) Eric says Tuesday, Aug 21st

(5) Lars says Monday, August 27th

(6) Ron says Wednesday, Aug 22nd

what's YOUR pick????

CONTEST submissions end at noon TODAY!!

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

 

Pete (wolfman) at 9:36 AM Thursday - Aug 16th: A fine selection for your get-away to the train! Appreciate the support, of course! Thumbs Up [tup] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Bow [bow]

Pitchford Hall looks "cool" - I know we've seen a full shot, but if you can, let's see her again! Yeah!! [yeah]

Don't know about YOU, but I'm BEAT! After you got off at JCity, we encountered another series of slow downs, making the return to Kirkwood at 12:35 AM - just a tad later than the advertised 8:58 PM arrival! <grin> That run from JCity to Kirkwood in the dark seems sooooooooooo long. And of course they kept the overhead lights on in the seating area, which doesn't help a bit for viewing the little there is to pick out in that area. Oh well . . . "Marlene" says you're "Sweet," but talk "funny!" <hoooo hoooo haaaaa haaaa> I told her only every 1st ‘n 3rd word is "funny"!! <grin>

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:39 AM Thursday - Aug 16th: OUTSTANDING effort with the Sunset Crescent info . . . Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] I too found it a bit of an effort to unsnarl the bits ‘n pieces of info "out there" on those trains. As alluded to, just haven't had the time to do any digging - but obviously you did ‘n have! Yeah!! [yeah]

Air conditioning was running in the business class-café car, ‘n thank the good Lawd for that! <phew> There were two AMD103s (PA Genesis) on the line for a 3 car consist - first time I ever saw that ‘n found it rather odd fer sure, fer sure. Kinda wondered if one was being used to provide the power for the A/C . . . none of the train staff seemed to KNOW!! <geesh>

Glad that RELAY MAN came through! Also, Wolfman Pete says he's having some incoming Email difficulties. So, if you (AND ANYONE ELSE) has sent him something in the past week or so and are expecting a response - best send it AGAIN!!)

Pete 'n I have tentatively decided to "do" a New England rail trip next spring . . . thinking of a round trip to Portland, Maine from BahStun - then a round trip to Albany. Perhaps 3 nite getway, total, then fly back. Interested???

Quarters, round ‘n input most welcome! [er tup]

Jan (JanOlov) at 9:40 AM ‘n 10:51 AM Thursday - Aug 16th: Focus here is and has been the discussion of Classic Trains along with banter at the bar. Appreciate your enthusiasm for the Chef [C=:-)] Chef Chef du jour's job ‘n like the tie in with the menu's from trains of old! Nice touch. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

However, the Thursday - Friday ‘n Saturday "featured" meals will remain a fixture at "Our" Place - as shown in the daily acknowledgments. Proprietor's prerogative, or something like that. <grin> The Chef [C=:-)]  Chief Chef ALWAYS has the option of adding SPECIALS on those days. Kitchen staff does not work on other days . . .

Ron (DD1) at 12:01 PM Thursday - Aug 16th: Don't know if yours was a special effort, or just a "routine" visit - no matter! Good to see ya 'n always appreciate our Southern Gentleman from Mississippi paying a call on the lads at the bar! Yeah!! [yeah] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Contest entry amended! Thumbs Up [tup]

Well, Red Barber made is claim to fame with "my" Brooklyn Dodgers. Of course Joltin' Joe made h

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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, August 17, 2007 12:55 PM

Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present

Will dispense with the usual as it is kind a rough day for a lot us. 

Keep the miners in your thoughts and prayers.

Work safe

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 17, 2007 1:04 PM

Hi Tom and All. Drinks for all. I don't have much to add today. I tried unsuccessfully yesterday to post some images, but they didn't work, so I deleted it. As a test, I'm attaching the following image. Hope it works this time. I'm composing this on a word processor and  copying it to paste on the forum. Later Ron.

A streamlined diesel-electric from Chile. Looks kinda like a Hiawatha or maybe an electroliner?

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, August 17, 2007 4:49 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH Thumbs Up [tup]and is there any Fish ‘N' chips left over from last nightQuestion [?].

ALLAN Great to see you back in the barApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Look forward to your posts when you have caught up.Yeah!! [yeah]

JAN Many thanks for the great US and Swedish electric locomotive photosThumbs Up [tup], the early electrics certainly had the appearance of being powerful locomotives.Approve [^]

They look like mushy peas on the fish and chipsApprove [^], they are almost impossible to get here in mid moSad [:(] but the local Irish pub had a go a making them recently.Thumbs Up [tup]

Good link to the model railroad,Thumbs Up [tup] I was able to view it in slideshow.Wow!! [wow] 

ERIC As I said to Tom, the TT scale rings a bell with me I have been trying to think about it. I think it may have been in the early 1960s, when it was being promoted in the UK, I don't recall it being very popular in Britain though.

Thanks for the info and the photo of the Du2sThumbs Up [tup]; the class had many years of serviceBow [bow]. I knew you would have the info on #6703Yeah!! [yeah], am I right thinking it is a diesel hydraulicQuestion [?].

Many thanks for the X1 EMU from the cab photosThumbs Up [tup], do you know which type of loco that is in the first Amtrak photoQuestion [?]

Glad you enjoyed the Named Locos, I have the LMS one I done, I lost the LNER but I will do it again.Yeah!! [yeah]

Is the Montreal photo anywhere near the Exporail MuseumQuestion [?].

Yes Tom stayed on the train at KC we only had about 20 odd minutes, I had not the heart to tell Tom about the wet Tee-shirt contest going on when I got off the train.Evil [}:)]Big Smile [:D] 

FERGIE Sorry to hear of the family illness.

CM3 I have noticed the air conditioning on the trains over here is very good. One of the worst journeys I had on BR was on a late running train in summer and the diesel loco hauling the train of sealed windows air conditioned stock, was one not fitted with Electric Train Service (I believe it is HEP over here) it was only a two hour journey but it was awful, what it must be like over here where the temperature is 10 to 20 degrees hotter is hard to imagine.

RON Many thanks for the link to the Northlandz model railroadWow!! [wow], the sound link and the photos are greatThumbs Up [tup], the work it must take to do those bridgesBow [bow], loved the part of the model where the strip mining company had just mined around her houseSmile [:)].

Thanks for the info on the DD1 and No 460 preserved at Strasburg PAThumbs Up [tup].

LARS I see you did not mention to Jan the dippers you use for pay come from the " Thimbles are Us" companyBig Smile [:D].

Good selection of Amtrak books and DVDsThumbs Up [tup], those Amtrak electrics still have a ‘Classic look about them.Thumbs Up [tup]

Rushed ‘admin duties' and away for a few days, methinks RUTH is not going to be too happy.Shock [:O] We will miss you at the barYeah!! [yeah]; I will try to remember to give the Mascots their treats Thumbs Up [tup]

DAVE Congratulation on the promotion.Bow [bow]Thumbs Up [tup]

 There was a bit of locomotive interest on our trip yesterday. We passed a SP and a SOO line diesel coupled together on freight, although we only got a passing glance at them. Also at KC there was a Mexican diesel in red livery coupled to a KCS loco.

Thanks for the drinkThumbs Up [tup].

TOM A very enjoyable day out yesterdayThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup], although the three-hour plus late arrival back was not too good and you had another two and a half hours on the trainThumbs Down [tdn]. It was a pass by of Pat's Place on the way to the houseSad [:(], if the train had arrived on time I may have called inYeah!! [yeah] What a great café car attendant we had though.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

I am still wondering why Amtrak only stock 3 Sam Adam's in the café car

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, August 17, 2007 5:28 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and around please LEON while I post a couple of pics from yesterday.

These were taken at Jefferson City while waiting for the train to Kansas City.

A UP loco in the center of a coal train, usually locos on the front and one on the rear through here.

The photo is a bit dark but it shows at leaset 5 locomotives on a Westbound.

The Eastbound Amtrak picking up passengers at Jeff City.

They should enlarge.

Pete.

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, August 17, 2007 11:39 PM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, Friday night, a perfect night for a Filet Mignon. With mushrooms and everything else. A Samuel Adams would be great!

Friday feels good even though I haven't worked for so many weeks. Only 272 days to the 3rd Annual Rendezvous!

Fergie –  Sorry to hear about the illness in your family. Hope it isn’t too serious and will turn better soon.

Tom –  Seems like you spent more hours on the train than you asked (and paid) for! Wink [;)]

Marlene? Who is Marlene? From Canada?

My photo is not a regular mystery photo.Sigh [sigh] When we were on tour in Canada 1993 that place (station) is where CP took us and where we spent parts of the day. The station building was closed and I don’t remember the name of it.Confused [%-)]

I was surprised that my post was the last one of the day. I guess I could have posted some more pix. Next time...Wink [;)]

CM –  All I can say is what the Governor of Utah said, it went from a tragedy to a catastrophe! Very sad!

Ron –  Thanks for that streamliner from Chile!Thumbs Up [tup] I really don’t much about South American railroads. I can see the catenary over it!Smile [:)]

Pete –  I agree, TT scale was not a very big hit, but quite a few people I know bought it.Smile [:)]

#6703 is actually a diesel-electric.

The Amtrak loco is #104, an ALCO Road Swithcer RS3, 1,600 hp. Built in the early 1950’s. When I took the picture in 1992 it was used for switching at Union Station, Washington D.C.

The only thing I know for sure about the picture from Montreal is that it is Montreal. I am trying to find out what the name of the closed station in the background is. Question [?]

Aha, I think I know who Marlene is! Whistling [:-^]

Nice picture of Pitchford Hall! It looks very clean.Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks for the pictures from Jefferson City!Thumbs Up [tup] I thought I had a pix of UP #5146, but when I checked it was #5116.


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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, August 18, 2007 8:29 AM

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This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents!

Saturday! Fill up the coffee mugs - check out the pastry case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!

REALITY CHECK!

A couple of days ago I asked for some help over on "my other Thread." A guy provided a fine narrarive Post - most unusual over there - and both Lars 'n I thought it would be a fine gesture for the guys from "Our" Place to extend an invitation for him to join us here. Nothing happened! Not one guy stopped by. Thumbs Down [tdn] Question? How do you think many of you got here?? It was by specific invitation . . . Sigh [sigh]

Surely miss the Larsman 'round here!

CONTEST underway: The day we will reach 100 Pages!

(1) CM3 Shane sez Monday, Aug 20th

(2) Jan sez Saturday, Aug 25th

(3) Pete says Thursday, Aug 30th

(4) Eric says Tuesday, Aug 21st

(5) Lars says Monday, August 27th

(6) Ron says Wednesday, Aug 22nd

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 12:55 PM Friday - Aug 17th: Positive thoughts since the tragedy, now catastrophe, began . . .

Ron (DD1) at 1:04 PM Friday - Aug 17th: A Zephyr by any other name! I'll have to "dig" into my modest library of hard bound books to see what I can find. Sweet! Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanx for the round! Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete (pwolfe) at 4:49 PM ‘n 5:28 PM Friday - Aug 17th: Great to see the return of our Bar Chandler! In spite of it all, we enjoyed the trip - as long as we were MOVING that is!

Nice fotos - ALL - especially the Rood Ashton Hall! Thumbs Up [tup]

Round appreciated! Yeah!! [yeah]

Eric (EricX2000) at  11:39 PM Friday - Aug 17: Not to worry - you made your contributions AND they were most appreciated! It's up to the guys to do what they can when the Proprietor ‘n Bar Chandler are away for some OJT as rail riders! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Over the 18 years or so of traveling by rail in ‘n out of Montreal, I've not seen that station . . . so my guess is the route you took isn't one that is used by VIA Rail today. Interesting shot though . . .

Fine looking German loco! Thumbs Up [tup]

Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by JanOlov on Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:18 AM

Greetings Tom and all....

Well, well, back in the old country for two weeks visiting family and friends, so far the weather is good with sun, at least after the 11 hours that I arrived.....

The stove is going warm (strange otherwise, eh?), so we're putting out steaks with everything as fast as we can. No steak is too small or too odd to make, just let me what you'd like and we'll do our best to scramble it together....

I hope that all is well with you folks...

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:04 PM

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents!

So, Jan is back in Sweden!

 

 

A Saturday ENCORE! from the Pages of the Original Thread. Here's a continuation from Page 363  on 25 June 2006 of our Alaskan Rail Adventure . . . .


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(1) Fairbanks main "drag"




(2) Vito the Hit's Fairbank's Annex! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]




(3) Bridge across Chena River, Fairbanks - Immaculate Conception RC Church




(4) Fairbanks mile marker




(5) Chena River , Fairbanks




(6) Sculpture: The First Unknown Family - Fairbanks, Golden Heart Park




(7) Alaska RR Fairbanks Depot




(8) Tanana Model RR Club (HO) - Fairbanks Depot




(9) Tanana Model RR Club (HO) - Fairbanks Depot




(10) Tanana Model RR Club (HO) - Fairbanks Depot




(11) Bridge at Hurricane Gulch - Fairbanks Depot




(12) ARR Denali Star at Fairbanks


 


Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup] 


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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:26 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDYThumbs Up [tup]. I am in early today as I have got some honey dos to doShock [:O] and I have got to get my strength up.Yeah!! [yeah]

ERIC The Hall class locomotive is in very clean conditionApprove [^], most of the steam locomotives are in immaculate condition when out on the main line a fine credit to the volunteers who prepare themThumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow]. In my opinion the Great Western locos especially look good when in a clean condition with all the brass work, on the flip side when like towards the end of steam on BR the GW locos were in filthy condition they looked really bad. There would be just three brackets where the nameplate used to be and the loco would sometimes be missing the number plates with the number stenciled on, a really sad sight for once fine locomotives.Sad [:(]Thumbs Down [tdn]

So #6703 was a diesel-electric, I think there is a look of the same look between 6703 and the German 221 class. Is the 221-class diesel-electric as well. The loco looks very similar to the Warship class Diesel -Hydraulics that was built for the Western Region of BR, introduced from 1958. Some were built at the ex GWR works at Swindon and some by the North British Locomotive Co.

The ALCO RS3 in your photo had a long serviceApprove [^]. I wonder how many different company liveries # 104 had during its career.Question [?]

JAN Hope the weather stays good for you and you have a great time in the old countryThumbs Up [tup]Yeah!! [yeah].

Steak medium well please.Thumbs Up [tup]

TOM Glad you liked the photosThumbs Up [tup]. Looking at the Rood Ashton Hall photo it is hard to believe that on some engines, there still was so little protection for the loco crews right up to the end of steam in Britain in the mid 1960sSad [:(]. Imagine a tender first trip on a snowy mid-winter day on that engine.Shock [:O]

As you say an enjoyable day trip ThursdayThumbs Up [tup], it is hard to realize how much time we did spend at a standstill in sidings though. That guy said he thought we been at Indepenance just ½ hour when in fact it was over an hour.

For this weeks photos from Alan they are from a recent trip to Holland.

   

# 6703 on the special on the MOERDIJK freight branch

An Ex british Railways class 58 working now in Holland.A class of 50 locos they were built at Doncaster Works(the same works that built the Gresley Pacifics)in 1983-1987. A Co-Co diesel-electric rated at 3,300 HP. The locos were allocated at Toton depot in Nottinghamshire and mainly worked the coal trains in that area. 5814 was originally BR 58038.Photo at Utrecht Central.

I have no details of the interesting electric at DIEREN. Help please ERIC.Thumbs Up [tup].

 

Dieren is the start of a preserved branch to BEEKBERGEN, where this station is.

If I have read Alan's notes right this the loco that hauled the special on the branch.It is a simular loco to the British Railways class 08 0-6-0 DE shunter(Switcher) built by English Electric and the class which total over 1,000 locos was introduced from 1953. I don,t know if this was bought from BR second hand or it was built new to the Dutch Railways.

  

A German looking steam loco at Beekbergen, Alan said the shed behind the loco was full of steam engines.Approve [^].

Well CINDY, a quick Bathams and I had better start my chores now or I will in troubleShock [:O].

 As Manager Lars is away for a few days , I will get the MASCOTS their usual treats,Thumbs Up [tup], although I suspect one of you told Lars about me and the penthouse with a certain ladyShock [:O]Smile [:)]

TOM Just seen your Alaska photosThumbs Up [tup]. I will post this and then I will enlarge your photos for a better look.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18, 2007 3:02 PM

Hi Tom and all present at the bar. Drinks all around and the usual for me. Here are two photos attached.

This dish was of a possum road kill that someone brought into the office for a Christmas party. Maybe Boris might like it.

Another crowded train in India. Unbelievable! I saw similar situations on buses in the Philippines.

I'm still experimenting with this image posting thing, so here goes. CLICK

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 18, 2007 3:37 PM

Being it's photo Saturday, I'll try posting a few more images. Note the similarity of the engine in the first image to the others depicted in the posters and on the bridge. Looks like the posters are from 1944 about. Have a nice weekend.

P.S. I have seen this bridge when I was in Chile. It is typical of their bridge construction, using short suspension bridge elements. A lot of steel was used.

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:06 PM

ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!

at "Our" Place!

We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!


Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

. . . August 19th thru 25th: THE THREE STOOGES DOUBLE FEATURE WEEK continues! Private Buckaroo (1942) - and - My Sister Eileen (1942). Elmer Fudd CARTOON: The Wabbit Who Came to Supper (1942).

Private Buckaroo (1942)

PLOT SUMMARY:

A Universal Army enlistment promotion, produced as a musical showcase for Harry James, the Andrews Sisters, Joe E. Lewis, and Donald O'Connor & Peggy Ryan. The film's thin plot has James drafted, and joining him is the band's lead vocalist Lon Prentice (Dick Foran), who doesn't believe that Army training and regulations are necessary for anyone of his skill and fame.

Shemp Howard steals the film whenever James and the Andrews aren't performing. As Sgt. Snavely, he's effectively teamed with Mary Wickes as his shrewish fiance, trying desperately to keep her away from the attentions of nightclub comic and USO performer Lancelot Pringle McBiff (Joe E. Lewis). Shemp also has the opportunity to clown onstage with the Andrews Sisters during a musical finale, as they perform Don't Sit Under the Appletree. Arguably, Shemp's best solo film credit.

<from: threestooges.net>

My Sister Eileen (1942)

PLOT SUMMARY:

Fresh from Columbus OH, writer Ruth Sherwood (Rosalind Russell) and her actress sister Eileen (Janet Blair) arrive in New York City with dreams of success. Renting a Greenwich Village basement "apartment" from the fast-talking and fact-loose Mr. Appopolous (George Tobias), the girls find that life in the big city is a lot tougher than expected. Not helping matters are a series of dynamite blasts rocking the apartment, from a new subway tunnel being built underneath. Ruth meets Bob Baker, the frustrated editor of The Manhatter trying to stop declining circulation with human interest stories, who thinks Ruth's true-life stories of middle America are what the magazine needs. Meanwhile, Eileen's naive and trusting nature attracts all sorts of eccentrics and opportunists. Rounding out the story's cast of characters are an out-of-work pro football player (Gordon Jones, of THE A&C SHOW fame) and his newlywed wife as upstairs neighbors, a cynical beat cop (Donald MacBride) who assumes that the sisters are "working girls," and a crew of Portugese merchant marines who create an international incident with Eileen.

<from: threestooges.net>

Cartoon Special: The Wabbit Who Came to Supper

Elmer is hunting Bugs when news comes that his Uncle Louie will leave him three million dollars on condition that he doesn't harm any animals, especially rabbits. Bugs takes this as his cue to move in on Fudd.

Special note: The month of August (starting on the 5th) will be The Three Stooges FEATURE Films month! Watch for the double features! Thumbs Up [tup]

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom
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Posted by West Coast S on Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:14 PM

Good Day gents, good to see Lars, Pete, CM3, Jan & Capt. Tom about the place of late. First, rounds on me...

Being Saturday with our usual darth of patrons, I won't get too deep into the striking resemblence of DD1's subject and photo to the original 1937 Daylight proposal, yep, a shovel nose articulated five car Daylight could have been a reality, after several million dollars in research and design it was rejected due to being inflexable and too low in passenger capacity, also its high speed capabilities were also in doubt, It was dubbed the "million dollar high speed trolley" by company officials, not what SP had in mind!. Strike two was the possible relibilty/cost/union concerns and delivery schedules associated with introducing diesel power that led SP to conclude more research and real world data was needed before entrusting the proposed premier passenger train to internal combustion motive power.

Tom, need a few minons around the bar?  Naw, they would just become fodder for Boris and the critters!!!

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:56 PM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!! 

Hello Leon! Kind of quiet tonight, isn't it? Yeah, I'll have... hmmm, a Philly Sandwich, please! All extras! And a cold Keith's! 

This Saturday went by fast! Glad I made it here before midnight!

Tom –  I guess you are right about the route we took in Montreal, not the normal VIA route. I have looked several times in my notes but can’t find the name of that station (place).

Thanks for the Alaska pictures!!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] If it wasn’t for all the snow in the winter I would love to live up there. Nice layout, in a way reminding about the CanAm layout! I like that last picture with the locomotives. They are very clean and good looking!Yeah!! [yeah]

I actually believe I have seen one of next week’s featured films, Private Buckaroo! Time to see it again!!Wink [;)]

JanOlov –  Back in the old country cooking? Okay, how about Steak & Bisquits cooked my way? That means a lot of extra marinade added while you cook them, that is all I can say. Comes with steak fries! Wink [;)]

I’ll pass on the possum steak!Oops [oops]

I would also say no to run a train with people hanging on the outside of it, like the one in the picture from India.Grumpy [|(]

Pete –  Class 221 is a diesel-hydraulic locomotive. The last ones were taken out of service 1988. Several of them were sold to other railroads though, so they can still be seen in service in Europe.Smile [:)]

Amtrak’s RS3 #104 has been running for a number of different railroads. Was New York Central 8246 and Penn Central RS3 5246. After Amtrak it became Shoreline Locomotives 6055, Connecticut Central 1201, Providence & Worcester 120, and Cape Cod Central 1201. It seems to be used for dinner trains now and is still in operation. See this link:

http://www.capetrain.com/roster/1201.shtml

The electric locomotive in one of your posted pictures is a Class 1250 (3,100 hp) from the Netherlands.
Info on this link:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/ns/acts_1250.html

The British Class 08 looks exactly like the Swedish States Railways’ (SJ) Class V1, built by English Electric 1949. It had a 350 hp diesel engine. SJ had only two of them. Smile [:)]

The last picture is showing a German Class 52 steam locomotive, 2-10-0, Kriegslok, built 1942-1945 for the war effort. More than 6,100 of them were built.

Ron –  More info on the streamlined train from Chile! A 3-car diesel-electric unit, built in Germany by MAN. Traveling time Santiago - Temuco 9 hours.Thumbs Up [tup] Thanks for thpictures/posters!

Interesting type of bridge! Smile [:)]

Dave –  I tried to find something on the net about the SP 1937 Daylight proposal, but had no luck. Do you have more info? I guess it was about a diesel powered train.

 

Since it is Saturday I am adding some pictures from the Northeast Corridor.

 

Passing K-Tower, Union Station, Washington D.C.

 

Approaching Wilmington, DE.

 

A MetroNorth train leaving Penn Station, NYC.

 

Approaching New London, CT.

 

Philadelphia.

 

NJ Transit F40, Philadelphia.

 

Catching up on a Conrail freight on the Harrisburg line. 

 

 

Have a nice weekend!

Eric 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:49 AM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!

Yes, ‘tis the Larsman from Plattsburgh, upstate NY! The Mrs. ‘n I are spending a relaxing ‘n enjoyable weekend with Phil ‘n his wife. Lovely place here, no doubt. Thumbs Up [tup]

Took a few moments to check out the happenings at the bar this morning as the gals are off doing whatever gals think of doing on Sunday mornings. Figure I'd take advantage of the "break"! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Just a tad disappointed in my fellow bar flies! NO ONE visited Tom's other thread to invite that guy over to the bar. Thumbs Down [tdn] Too late now, for my guess is he's long gone. Probably a hit 'n run post anyway. BUT, we'll nevAH know if we don't extend the invite!! <not good>

We drove up ‘n aside from a few nit wits on the roads, it wasn't a bad trip. The Mrs. wasn't feeling too good when we got here, so we layed low on Saturday. She's back to cracking the whip, so my guess is the rest of the time away will be "active." <grin> We're gonna stay over 'til late-week. Far too long a drive without a chance to recharge. Over 300 miles for us and that's a bunch when you're OLD! <grin>

Hey Ron! That "dish" almost made me lose my breakfast! <ugh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Really enjoyed the Zephyr pix. No doubt that's a Zephyr design. Will be interesting to see if anyone can make the connection. Thumbs Up [tup]

For Eric! Nice pix ‘n good to note that you're nearly back at full throttle. Thumbs Up [tup]

For Pete! You ‘n Da Boss are a twosome on the rails, for sure! So who drank the bar dry?? Worried about those photos??? Silvia is lookin' - interesting!! Wow!! [wow]

For Shane! As with Tom, I too try to think positive, however, it doesn't look good - and hasn't. Lord be with those who have perished ‘n their loved ones AND with all who've tried to get ‘em out.

For Dave! You gotta spend more time at the bar now that YOU are Da Boss! Thumbs Up [tup]

For Da Boss! Apparently the Amtrak trip didn't meet your expectations. Too bad about the situation with UP. Only thing I can say is that Amtrak is facing one huge uphill climb with the freighters and if it continues, I'd say the long distance train era is over ‘n done. Schedules are made to be kept and if they can't even come close, well that pretty much closes the book. Just my 2 cents worth.

Loved the Alaska pix ‘n the Stooges movies continue on through the month, huh? Nothing wrong with smiles - so keep ‘em coming! Thumbs Up [tup]

Let me drop these off for Ron down there in "Mississip" - some support for the trains of Chile!

By the way: For those of you using PHOTOBUCKET - they've made another change to the way you post pix. Now there's a direct "IMG Code" link to "click" on. You don't have to type in the "img" stuff anymore. Really makes it easier. Thumbs Up [tup]

I'm leaving this fifty on the bar for drinks on me when the place opens up tomorrow! Now it's time to help Phil with the boat prep, we're gonna spend the day on the lake! Yeah!! [yeah]

Have a great Sunday one ‘n all! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, August 19, 2007 11:26 PM

Tonight it is really closed! No lights, no sounds except from Boris' shed in the back. Sounds like he is having some kind of party.

Lars –  Escaped to Plattsburgh again! Ruth is not a very happy gal now!Whistling [:-^]
But since the bar is closed today I’ll just throw in these pictures taken along the line up to (and beyond) Plattsburgh.

Thanks for the book covers, quite a few books about the railways of Chile!Thumbs Up [tup]

Hope you and the Mrs will have a nice stay up there!Smile [:)]


Looking from the train across Lake George

 

This was how far I got, Fort Ticonderoga. 

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, August 20, 2007 5:55 AM

<courtesy: www.viarail.ca>

A smile to begin the week!

We made too many wrong mistakes.

<A Yogi-ism!>

G'day Gents!

A new start to a new week ‘n it's called MONDAY! Belly up to the bar boyz - the coffee's ready, pastries fresh ‘n our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts only need to be ordered! Yeah!! [yeah]

CONTEST underway: The day we will reach 100 Pages!

(1) CM3 Shane sez TODAY, Aug 20th

(2) Jan sez Saturday, Aug 25th

(3) Pete says Thursday, Aug 30th

(4) Eric says Tuesday, Aug 21st

(5) Lars says Monday, August 27th

(6) Ron says Wednesday, Aug 22nd

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Jan (JanOlov) at 10:18 AM Saturday - Aug 18th: Always good to get away ‘n going home must hold a special meaning for you. One day, perhaps you'll tell us more about where in the old country you call home! Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete (pwolfe) at 12:26 PM Saturday - Aug 18th: Actually we waited for 1 hour, 43 minutes at Independence Junction for 3 UP freight trains to pass - just after pulling away from the Independence AMTRAK station. Watch for my TRIP REPORT tomorrow! Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for the Email with the Pix! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] I sent you mine with a copy of the text sent to AMTRAK. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Fotos from Alan are terrific - the man knows how ‘n when to capture the moment! Thumbs Up [tup] Does this guy EVER spend time at home Question [?] Then again, why would he want to when there's SO MANY great trains to ride!?!?! Thumbs Up [tup]

Inferring something regarding YOU ‘n Sonia up in the Penthouse Suite?!?!? Hmmmmmm. Maybe those FOTOS sent in that unmarked envelope from an "anon" source "tipped" us off! <uh oh>

Ron (DD1) at 3:02 PM ‘n 3:37 PM Saturday - Aug 18th: If a FOTO ever needed a caption, your "Road Kill dinner special" surely does! Good Gawd Gertie, if anything can kill an appetite, that surely DID ‘n does! <barf> Awful . . . <grin> Hate to break the news to ya, but you'll NOT be in the running for  Chef [C=:-)] Chief Chief or Assistant 'round here. <ugh>

Never, ever will comprehend those who hang on the outside of trains ‘n buses and do so routinely! Not for me, that's fer sure . . . Thumbs Down [tdn] Too many people for too few resources causes things like this. <ugh>

Enjoyed the continuation of that Zephyr foto ‘n bridge shot from Chile! Fantastic stuff that fits quite well with our Classic Trains theme at the Bar by the Ballast! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Your two Emails were received ‘n responded to - thanx for them AND the round! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave (West Coast S) at 4:14 PM Saturday - Aug 18th: One of the "problems" with responding to our Left Coast Connection ‘n Man of Mystery, is we just don't KNOW if he finds the time to read ‘em. However, even with an occasional visit to the bar, the man still holds this place special, so that "counts" for something! Thumbs Up [tup] Good to see ya again, Mate . . .

Eric (EricX2000) at 11:56 PM Saturday - Aug 18th: Don't quite know what to make of these "early" visits from our Nocturnal Resident Desert Swede - but we're always pleased to have him at the bar! Thumbs Up [tup]

As picked up by Pete a few days ago, those ARR loco's ‘n cars were in immaculate condition. Quite a bit of effort ‘n pride goes into what they do . . . and that's most evident.

Living in Alaska is something quite special, and of course it's such a huge chunk of the Earth's geography, that to say you've lived there (as I have) doesn't mean you've experienced all of it. Hardly! I was so fortunate to have been assigned to a ship  (homeport was Kodiak) and over the tour of duty, got to see things I'd never have seen up close ‘n personal if not for that. The Bering Sea - the Aleutian Islands to the end - the Inland Passage - towns, villages ‘n cities like Nome - Cold Bay - Du

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, August 20, 2007 8:36 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  We didn't do a whole lot over the weekend except "decompress" a bit; it was one wild ride last week.  I appreciate the encouragement from you folks.

Let's see what's happening.

DD1 has sent all kinds of material.  The beastie in his pictures kind of favors the Southern's old "Vulcan."  No, Boris, we're not going to mash Awk on the anvil - it's not that kind of Vulcan.  Geez!  Let him in the shop and he goes crazy.  IIRC. GM&N's "Rebel" resembled the machine in the picture as well.  Road kill.  As Granny said, "I saw him first!"  Lots of vehicles around here have the "Eat More Possum" bumper sticker.  It hold truck parts together along with duct tape and liberal applications of Bondo.

Pete stopped by with pictures and comments from all over the place.  I enjoyed that beautiful 2-10-0 picture from Alan. 

Lars is still running the bookmobile.  Have a good time in the north country.  We got our Vermont Life magazine in the mail on Saturday.  Many nice foliage shots - kinda took our minds off the sauna we have had (yet again) for the past few days.  My, that was an ugly Giants game on TV last night.   Three injuries in one play and a coach was apparently thinking of other things.  They won, I know, but there's a lot of work yet to be done.

Eric sent pictures and lots of information.  The picture of K tower is a good one.  Back in the day, one could get pictures around there.  The concrete bldg. on the right is where they used to have "DC Wrestling."  Not for the faint-hearted, believe me.  Take a look at the track where Eric's train is running and you'll see a guard rail.    Keeps the train from attacking the tower should a problem occur.  Also, many interesting pieces of equipment at 30th Street in your picture from there.  The PRR Harrisburg line, to me, had an interurban flavor once you escaped Philadelphia.  This is, of course, not to say that they didn't roll the trains through there.

OSP has sent material.  Stooges indeed - some rare ones in your offering.  I enjoyed looking at the Alaska pictures - it appears as the club is following the same approach toward modeling as my buddy did with his ARR layout.  Incidentally, his was set in the days of steam. 

I understand your frustration with traffic.  Makes oyu wonder how they got stuff over the road back in the day.  If you want to really have some fun, ride 48/49 beween Chicago and Albany. 

We won't even discuss the Red Sox right now.  It's O.K. Boris, my head's nowhere near the oven.  Cards are twitching a little although they got rained out vs. Cubs.    

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, August 20, 2007 1:01 PM

AMTRAK Kirkwood, MO to Kansas City (round trip)

Thursday, 16 Aug 2007

TRIP LOG (270 track miles between Kirkwood & Kansas City, MO)

8:50 AM - Train #311, Kansas City Mule arrived 9 minutes early at Kirkwood, MO. Train departed downtown St. Louis at 8:30 AM. Visibility conditions were ideal for a train ride - clear skies.

Boarded AMFLEET Café Car # 41487 (business class) - first passenger. "Marlene" was café car attendant - most enjoyable personality with a smile that could melt the coldest of hearts.

Train was powered by two AMD-103 (PA series of Genesis locos) - placed back to back. Two Horizon coaches behind the café car. Crew said no more than 3 dozen on board for entire trip. No one seemed to know WHY we had two locomotives!!

Noted that the car was placed in consist backwards. Business Class seating should have been forward with tables to the rear. Opposite placement deprived Business Class of the privacy paid for as all passengers wishing to use the café car had to pass through. Of real annoyance was the opening and closing of the door, which kept the air conditioning in that area from being totally effective on such a hot ‘n humid day.

This has happened in the past and is caused by inattentiveness in Chicago where the trains are assembled. AMTRAK must not have a "feed back" system whereby the supervisory personnel are alerted to ensure things like this are not repetitive mistakes. Thumbs Down [tdn]

KIRKWOOD: Named for the first chief engineer of the Pacific Railroad, James P. Kirkwood. Historic station well preserved and staffed by volunteers - no ticketing.

9:42 AM arrived at Washington (12 minutes late). Located on the banks of the Missouri River in the heart of wine country. Missouri Meerschaum Company manufactures the ONLY corn cob pipes in the world is located here. Unmanned station.

10:23 AM arrived at Hermann (31 minutes) late). A town settled by Germans in the 1830s looking for a site replicating the Rheine River Valley. Idea was to establish a wine growing area in the new country. Today has four award winning wineries. Also located on the banks of the Missouri River. Known for May and October "fests." Unmanned station.

Noon arrived at Jefferson City (1 hour 9 minutes late). State capital with dome of capitol building clearly in view. Great place for train watching and also located on the river bank. Volunteer manned station, no ticketing. Noted some cloud cover moving in.

Pete boarded here! Thumbs Up [tup]

NOTE: Delays to this point were due to slow orders and waiting in sidings for passing Union Pacific coal trains.

1:15 PM arrived at Sedalia (46 minutes late). Home of the Missouri State Fair, currently underway. Area is rather depressed and evidence of what used to be is visible from the train. Once known as the "Queen City of the Prairies" with a junction for the Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad (KATY). Great view of preserved KATY depot. Unmanned AMTRAK station. Skies returned to blue.

1:45 PM arrived at Warrensburg (50 minutes late). Home of Central Missouri State University and Whiteman Air Force Base (stealth bombers). Unmanned station.

2:28 PM arrived at Lees Summit (51 minutes late). Final resting place of Cole Younger, infamous member of the Jesse James Gang. Unmanned station.

3 PM arrived at Independence (1 hour, 25 minutes late).Home of the 33rd President of the U.S. - Harry S. Truman. World HQ for the Church of Jesus Christ of Later-Day Saints located here along with the Truman Library. Unmanned station.

3:30 PM arrived at Kansas City, MO Union Station (1 hour 20 minutes late). Kansas City is known as the "City of Fountains," and is situated in an area of rolling hills, tree-lined boulevards and distinctive architecture. The downtown is in low lands, prone to flooding from the Missouri River. Manned station with full AMTRAK services.

Dark clouds moving in - but nothing menacing.

NOTE: Delays were attributed to waiting in passing sidings for UP freight trains.

I remained aboard the train for the ride through the WYE. Stealthy Pete left the car to take some fotos and stretch his legs.

3:45 PM Pete re-boarded train.

Train #316, St. Louis Mule - departed at 4 PM for return trip. New train crew with the exception of our Café Car attendant. Train crew said no more than three dozen booked for return trip to St. Louis.

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Posted by EricX2000 on Monday, August 20, 2007 2:01 PM

Good afternoon Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Oh hello Ruth! You look magnificent today! I'll have some meatloaf for lunch, please! Keith's to drink. Thank you!

Back from my rehab I decided to stop by at "Our" Place for a little while. Interesting report from Captain Tom today. At the same time it is sad to see how UP is handling the Amtrak trains. In a way I can understand them, it is their tracks, but they should be able to get things work better.

Tom –  I guess my habits have been slightly changed after a number of weeks at home. But don’t worry, I’ll be back to normal when I start working again and that may happen as soon as next week. I’ll see my doctor tomorrow and will know more then.Smile [:)]

I guess living in Alaska is in many ways like living in the old country, especially in the northern part. The summers are perfect, 24 hours daylight Yeah!! [yeah] and billions of mosquitos.Oops [oops] But, as I said before, the winters are too long, too cold, and too dark. At least for me. Sigh [sigh]

Glad you liked the photos!  Yes, I took a lot of pictures during the X2000 tour (and before and after). I am just about to start going through all the negs to find more pictures to show. Then I also have about 6 hours of video.

Thanks for the trip report.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] Interesting! It seems to me like UP is doing everything they can to get rid of all Amtrak trains. I am quite sure they do not follow the rules. Didn’t UP and Amtrak sign a new agreement about the St. Louis - Kansas City line recently? Two locomotives both ways? I guess there could be a number of reasons why they used two locomotives. Maybe one loco had traction power but no HEP and the other had only HEP but no traction power? Or maybe one of them had been fixed for some kind of problem but they were not 100 5 sure it would work all the way so they added a locomotive. I don’t know.

Too bad the windows were dirty.Grumpy [|(] That is not good and the passengers will remember that.

CM3 –  The reason I showed the 30th Street picture was because I saw an old E60 locomotive. I doubt any of those are still in service. Too bad I didn’t get a better picture of one. Close to where I took the picture from the Harrison line we were very close to run over deer almost every day. They run across the tracks just in front of the train more or less daily.



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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, August 20, 2007 3:46 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

RON Many thanks for those interesting posters and photos from ChileThumbs Up [tup]. Thanks for the drink as well.Approve [^]

DAVE Thanks for the round.Thumbs Up [tup]

I guess in a way it was good that the SPs proposal for a diesel unit for the Daylight was not introduced, if it had of been there would not of been those great steam locos that ran on the Daylight.Yeah!! [yeah]

ERIC Many thanks for the info and the links to #104Thumbs Up [tup]. I think the loco deserved to be preserved after such a career it had. It looks in great condition now and the livery seems to suit the locomotiveApprove [^]. Looking at the photos in the link, I think the NYC livery suits the loco so much better than the Amtrak ones does.Yeah!! [yeah]

The electric locomotive is another loco that has seen many years in service, at least 54 years old.Wow!! [wow] Thanks for the linkThumbs Up [tup]. I wonder what the locos looked like first introducedQuestion [?]; I guess it would have been in a much simpler color scheme.

There were a lot of the German class 52 Kriegslok 2-10-0s builtWow!! [wow].

Many thanks for the photos from the Northeast Corridor. There was a good selection of different locomotives on the loco depot in Philadelphia on the day you visited. I guess the line through New London CT looks a lot different today with the overhead electrification masts.

Good to see you in the bar this afternoon.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] Thanks for the photosThumbs Up [tup]. It is indeed a shame how UP treat the Amtrak trains on the line through hereAngry [:(!]Thumbs Down [tdn]. I think you are right about having 2 locomotives on our train, I guess Chicago, St Louis, to Kansas City and back would be a good route to test a loco after repairs.

LARS Glad you could make it in during your few days awayThumbs Up [tup].

Only three bottles of Sam Adams on the train.Shock [:O] It is hardly a ‘swalley' as our Scottish friends would saySmile [:)].

Thanks for the ‘Railways of Chile' bookcoversApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. That diesel on the cover of volume three looks very interestingYeah!! [yeah], I wonder who built her,Question [?] she looks like a diesel-mechanical.

Hope you had a good day on the lake,Thumbs Up [tup] and a fifty behind the bar.Wow!! [wow]Approve [^]

CM3 Glad you enjoyed Alan's photosThumbs Up [tup], I believe those German 2-10-0s worked in a lot of countries after the war.

Thanks for the info on Eric's photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

TOM Many thanks for the Alaska photosThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. Looks like you had great weather while you were in FairbanksYeah!! [yeah], and that is a great HO model railway in the depot.Approve [^]

More with the Stooges at the Emporium this weekApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I believe I have seen the Bug's Bunny cartoon, but it was a long time ago, it will be good to see it again.Yeah!! [yeah]

It is only fairly recently that Alan as being going over to mainland Europe to visit the railscene, both main line and preserved lines. I think he as visited nearly every preserved line in BritainWow!! [wow]. He does get some great photos especially when traveling in a group,Bow [bow] sometimes it is hard to get photos without a lot of others in the picYeah!! [yeah].

Many thanks for our Amtrak trip notesThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. There is a lot of info in them I did not know, like Washington being the last place in the world to manufacture corn cob pipes.Wow!! [wow] The photos through the windows have come out really well considering the state the windows were inBow [bow], it was good to see photos from the wye.Thumbs Up [tup]

I did notice

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 20, 2007 7:20 PM

Good evening Tom and all at the bar. Drinks for all. Thanks for all the information on Chilean Railroads. It boggles my mind how you guys can find so much stuff Tom: That item about Joe DiMaggio being in the CG is probably bogus, but I read it during a surfing expedition. I tried unsuccessfully to find it again. I did find a site that stated his military career as you stated. Lars and Eric:

That shovel-nosed diesel electric shown in the Chile pics, was running on narrow gauge track (meter gauge). There are several narrow gauges used in Chile. It's my guess that most of their equipment was bought second hand from European narrow gauge railways or bought new from the USA. I don't think there are any standard gauge lines operating in Chile, but I will do more research, so as not to make myself a liar. I could probably find out who made what, but does anyone really want to know? Those bridges though are very unusual. They don't span any rivers or streams, but seem to be there just to elevate the tracks above the unstable soil which is prone to flash floods.

I've attached a few more pics for your scrutiny.

This is a locomotive used on the New York City Transit. Not only does it have a pantograph, but there is also a third rail pickup. (hard to see)

An advertisement for Pullman for the 1939 Worlds Fair.

A poster for the 1939 Worlds Fair.

A little nonsense: You all know that when the president is on a plane other than Air Force One, that plane automatically becomes Air Force One. So I figure I can update the various modes of travel by our presidents, both past and present, by adding a "one" to the end as follows: Chopper One; Limo One; Navy One: Golf Cart One and last, Railroad One. Submitted by DD One.

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