"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!

[West Coast S]

Yo gang, got my LA slang working today Tom, so true regarding S, heck Ho would be so easy to go back to, recently it was announced that a brass SP Mikado was in production at $2500 bucks apiece, even then it is incorrectly detailed for my era, better to donate that $2500 to the bar for various sundries!!! S is fine for those not attempting to depict the BNSF across Montana or UP across Kansas. Actually the more I research it, the Sacramento Northern would be a fine interurban canidate, oddly, steeple cab kits are available in S (well, to call them kits is perhaps over-reaching) and must admit that several have found their way to my doorstep, odd how that happens!!! 

Lars: The real odd ball power of the business car fleet had to be the 10 SDP35's that were relunctly purchased for branchline passenger power, found ill suited for UP's needs, they were the first in and out of storage as business fluctations occured, after the E9's were disposed of, the SDP35/GP40X combo was common until sufficient quanities of 40x's began arriving on the property. An attempt was made to utilize the 35's in freight service, with equally dismal results, despite being the unloved step children, UP provided for complete overhauls before all 10 were towed dead in train for storage at Yermo Ca, where they remained until traded in or otherwise disposed by the mid eighties.  

[JanOlov]

Class A 1213 is entering the Engine Service Building at Williamson in W.Va.

N&W class A 2-6-6-4 in Columbus....

Greetings Chief Tom and gentlemen....

First of all you have to excuse the noice coming from the kitchen and the mess there . I thought that I'd make you all a full English breakfast, to keep you going all day. You'll find everything that you need out there, eggs, sausages, bacon, beans etc....tea and coffee is hot and fresh as well. For those of you that want something else just pull the N&W Class J whistle . While you wait, why don't you have a top up and a Cuban on me. Here's a few $ for the jukebox too.

Tom,

My fascination with Milwaukee Road? That's hard to say my friend why I like that little bit of underdog of the Pacific Northwest. I'd say that it has to do with their Hiawathas, rolling stock, locomotives, scenery (you got to love their trestles), well everything....

N&W was my "first love" of US railroads but it didn't take long before I added the D&H, LV, RDG, NYNH&H and WM to my empire. As you can see, I for some odd reason stayed on the east side of Mississippi River, and that it's mostly railroads with heavy coal traffic That was a few blue moons ago.

At that point I also started to hang out with one of my very best friends here in Sweden. When we met, he was one of the infidels  that was eating and breathing Märklin and Swedish railways in both HO and full scale. That went on just fine, I was all the time trying to convert him to the one and only true belief in railroading.....American! First I have to admit that it was a bit of hard work for me to get him to see clearly  that he was on the wrong track.... After a while he started to go through some of my books, didn't that very many back then, and fell over a book called Erie Lackawanna Memories, and to make a long story short he's nowadays a fullfeathered Erie, Lackawanna and Erie-Lackawanna fanatic. Well, there's a few other roads on the sidetracks too....

Now he's converted another one of our mutual friends to D&RGW. Another that we know is a UP and AT&SF follower. 

Anyhoo, after a while I ran across the Milwaukee Road and its Hiawathas, which had completely knocked off my feet. That lead me to buy books about this railroad (always looking for new ones) wanting to know more about it. I really love the scenery that they go through, it must be one of the most scenic in the whole country. Some of their trestles are just amazing to say the least. Now I'm just waiting to buy "The electric way across the mountains", some Morning Sun and other books about Milwaukee Road.

What do you know.....after a wee while the GN and NP sneaked in through the kitchen door. That has to do with scenery as well, which has turned me into a huge fan of mountain railroading, besides the loving the thoroughbreds that's running on the flat racetracks and heavy freight or coal/ore drags.

Most recently the SP poked me in my side for a bit of a attention as well. It's hard to ignore those Daylight limiteds, cabforwards and their coastline along the Pacific coast......yummy. Of course, they have their fair bit of mountain railroading too which is GOOOOOD.

To make a short story even shorter, you'll see my "empire" of favorite railroads here below. Even though that I love US railroads as a whole (before 1976 that is) these are the ones that I want to know more about. I'd say that I'm 90% steam and 10% electric and 1st and 2nd generation dieselfan.

Sorry for taking up your time for so long....

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!

Rolled up ‘n slipped through the mail slot for the guys who just can't keep away!

First should apologize to Shane for not addressing his question about visits to the D&H. In a word, "nope." Haven't done any railroad-related activities since arriving ‘n none are planned. Sorry.

But, here's a photo of the current Plattsburgh Amtrak station - formerly D&H:

[photo in Public Domain]

and . . . .

[RF16 & Alco PA1 - courtesy: http://www.trainweb.com/]

[RF16 & Alco PA1 - photo credit: Jay Winn]

[RF16 - photo credit: Jay Winn]

[RF16 - photo credit: Jay Winn]

Great to see Dave from the Left Coast make a couple of Saturday appearances! Guess those UP business train pix "did it" for you, huh

Noted that Jan over in Scotland dropped by with a superb offering for breakfast - BUT - apparently he's still unaware of our HOURS ‘round here. WE'RE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS!! Hope the food "keeps" ‘til Monday . . . <grin> Of course, dropping off pix ‘n "stuff" through the mail slots is ALWAYS welcome when we're CLOSED! /s/ Manager!

Fine looking heralds ‘n enjoyed the background info regarding the fascination with U.S. railroads . . .

Until the next time!

Lars

[JanOlov]

Greetings Tom and fellow forum travellers....

DOH! That would explain why it's so quiet in hrere then, good thing that I haven't started yet, just stocking up the freezer and fridge for the coming week.....

I think that it has something to do with ol' dog and new tricks.....

LoveDomes, great pics D&H there much appreciated, even though I think that you're only teasing here, like a juicy bone just out of reach for a dog.....not very nice.

Now I only have to figure out what to do the rest of the Sunday, locked up in the kitchen....

I guess that I only go and put that t-shirt on then, again!

HELLO!

ANYBODY HERE!?

HELLO!

ANYBODY!?

Oh well, back to my books then....

[EricX2000]

Sunday night again! Time flies. Where is... oh, here it is.

After a real bad Saturday and not so good Sunday I am back even though the bar is closed. Yesterday we lost both cable TV and Internet for several hours and before that I managed to pull a muscle in my shoulder and was in pretty bad pain most of the day.  

Tom –  Me baiting the Manager? No way, I would never try anything like that.

The X2000 arrived in St. Louis June 18 and left June 20 at 8:05 AM to Springfield, IL. It was on display June 19 from 10 AM - 5 PM. 5,000 people came to see the train. June 18 we run a demo trip from St. Louis to Springfield, IL and back.

The ICE train must have been in St. Louis in August or maybe in early September.

Thanks for the Alaska Rail pictures! Was it just one Super Dome in that train? Sad to see that graffitti is a problem even in Alska.

This week at the Emporium I’ll go there to see one of my favorite cartoons, Coyote & The Road Runner! Love it! I’ll check the Stooges at the same time!

Pete –  Congratulations to the 2,000th Post! How did you manage to do that?

Nice to see pictures from Ireland! Don’t see many from there. Is that steam locomotive ‘Jeep’ in regular service?

A lot of older electric locomotives had pretty good size wheels.

Thanks for the link to the LMS Turbomotive 6202! Interesting to see how they placed the turbine!

JanOlov –  A bunch of real nice steam locomotives! Sad to see a streamliner being demoted to switching service! 2156 is indeed at the Museum of Transportation, St. Louis. We saw it during our 2nd Annual Rendezvous there last May.

Cooking? I think I’ll pass! I’ll go to Cracker Barrel instead!

Lars –  I never thought that you saw the X2000 and ICE at the same time (I mean the inside of them).

Nice pictures, but I would say that picture #2 from the top shows at least 2 C&NW cars. The rest is very likely UP.

Nice pictures of those D&H locomotives! Didn't D&H have any EMD diesels?

Dave –  I would like to know why you abandoned HO! Too small?

 

 

 

Eric
 

[siberianmo]

<courtesy: www.viarail.ca>

A smile to begin the week!

We always go to other people's funerals otherwise they won't go to yours.

<A Yogi-ism!>

G'day Gents!

Monday in mid-continent USA! After a relatively pleasant, but damp weekend, the temps are expected to return to the mid-90s once again. This may very well be the hottest August recorded for these parts. <ugh> <yikes>

Yeah, same-ol, same-ol - pastries, coffee ‘n breakfasts - all ready. Are you

SPECIAL NOTE: For all who have passed condolences on to Fergie regarding the loss of his father (funeral today) - I "bundled them up" in an Email to him. He's responded ‘n thanx each ‘n every guy for the thoughtfulness. Way to go!

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Dave (West Coast S) at 7:50 PM Saturday - Aug 25^th: 2^nd visit of the day! Feast or Famine from our Left Coast Connection - BUT - always good to see ya!

Thanx for the round!!

Lars at 10:01 AM Sunday - Aug 26^th: Fine spate of D&H Pix ‘n stuff! Another Sunday appearance by our vacationing Manager!

Jan (JanOlov) at 1:38 AM ‘n 10:40 AM Sunday - Aug 26^th: Enjoyed the spate of stuff in your early morning Post! Also, the insights regarding your interests in U.S. railroading puts it all into perspective. You've surely developed quite a keen appreciation for things that roll on steel tracks! Nicely done . . .

I noted all the food back in the galley - looks like we'll be eating breakfasts for a month! <grin>

Does this look familiar It's an excerpt from "Read the Saturday Posts for Dummies!" <grin> A caveat similar to this appears at the top of EVERY Post I make on Saturdays!!! <uh oh>

ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!

at "Our" Place!

We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!

<double geesh>

HOWEVER, always glad to see ya AND feel free to slip your messages through the mail slots on the front doors on Sundays . . .

Eric (EricX2000) at 1:00 AM today - Aug 27^th: Wondered if we'd see ya this weekend, as you took Saturday "off" - but that's understandable - weekends should be for kicking back! Oooooooooops, just re-read your commentary 'n see where you had a rather tough time of it. Sorry 'bout that, Mate! Let's hope you rebound quickly 'n get back to the mainline!

The ARR Denali Star consist was one baggage car, one UltraDome (double deck), one diner, two "standard" domes, one coach AND 8 "cruise ship" UltraDomes following. It was powered by two SD70M locos . . .

Yes, that kinda rings a bell for the visit to St. Louis by X2000 ‘n Ice Train. One day I'll dig through my "paper" foto boxes to located the Pix I took . . . not placed in albums ‘n requiring "work" . . .

So, you're a fan of the Road Runner cartoons, eh That poor Coyote just can't win! <grin>

Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n interesting cab "shot"!

Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!

Cindy is our Saturday bartender

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  It cooled off some yesterday for which we are grateful.  Gas is at $2.86 and all of the younger set is back in school (the K9 Korps is confused because of this). 

Pete - Thanks for the additional information on the Duchess class locomotives.  I agree with your caption, "an elegant Irish carriage."  The N&W was the last bastion of steam around here, although the C&O did run steam as late as 1956, IIRC, when they dig out some H8s to operate on coal trains.  Oh, almost slipped my mind(?) stop snickering ladies and Boris.  Congrats on 2000^th post.  Careful with that barrel!

DD1 - Glad material reached you.  No pictures rec'd here.

Allan stopped by - good to hear from you.

Eric - be careful!  You don't need PT is addition to everything else.  Answer to your question.  The D&H had some EMD power; Gp38-2s, GP39-2s, and SD45s.  Nice picture of the east approach to Hell Gate.

Dave - Good to hear from you.  Pet peeve of mine re hobby stuff (at least in N scale) is "limited run" materials which are "sold out" by the time the ads appear, and also manufacturers who never produce material which is "coming soon."  There's a special circle reserved for them.   Oh, almost forgot, publishers who make you preorder books.

Lars sent all kinds of UP/CNW materials.  I was just wondering since you were near P'Burgh.  Almost wound up working there.  Thanks for posting pictures of Pas and Sharks at Colonie.

Jan Olov - N&W pictures are all good.  There was also a lubritorium at Bluefield, WV.  It still stands although its used for care and feeding of diesels.  Link made some pictures there.  Williamson is still a busy place.  I remember riding the "Pocahontas" through there and rising early in the a.m. to get up in the dome car b4 breakfast in the diner.  Columbus, of course, is part of the N&Ws Ohio Extension - a speedway, especially for the A class locomotives.   Class J whistle, indeed - one of those sends cold chills up and down your spine - truly a "steamboat" whistle in the best sense of the word.  I was up close and personal with 611 more than a few times (on board and on the ground).  Know what you mean about different roads sneaking in through the door.  Ask away if you have questions - many of our colleagues (I know, Awk, it sounds better than "barflies") have a lot of knowledge about the roads you mentioned.

OSP stopped by with lots of offerings.  CN is always welcome.  The ARR pictures were enjoyable, but you know me, I zoned in on the pictures of the ARR centerflows.  Stooges and Road Runner?  Excellent!  SPF is short for "Slobbering Pennsy Freak."  Armadillo ate the bartab - Godfrey Daniel!  Well, last year, Frostbite devoured my Penguins tickets.

Work safe    

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Things must be right in the world, as CM3 Shane has begun the day for us with another of his "patented" Posts!

Time again for the monthly rundown on Canadian RR History!

Significant events in Canadian RR History during the month of August.

<A form of this was initally Posted on Page 381 of the Original Thread>

Caveat: Much of the information appearing was gathered from internet sources, with credit to "Colin Churcher's Railway Pages" at http://www.railways.incanada.net/

* 1853 - The Great Western Railway opens its main line between Windsor and Niagara Falls. The Great Western went on to build, lease or buy other railways throughout Southern Ontario, and it can be claimed to be the first Canadian system.  The Galt Branch was opened on August 21^st, 1854.

* 1856, August 11^th - The Grand Trunk Railway opens its broad gauge line between Oshawa to Toronto.

* 1860, August 1^st - European and North American Railway opens from Saint John, NB to Shediac. The line became part of the Intercolonial Railway on July 1, 1867

* 1877, August - First use of the telephone to dispatch trains. This was at the Caledonia Mine at Glace Bay on the Sydney Mines Railway. One of the owners was Gardiner G. Hubbard who was the father in law of Alexander Graham Bell who installed two telephones to control train movements.

* 1879, August 12^th - The Intercolonial Railway gains access to Quebec by purchasing the Grand Trunk line between Quebec and Rivière du Loup.

* 1882, August 12^th - Great Western Railway, controlling 1,009 miles of track is merged into the Grand Trunk System.

* 1883, August 10^th - First train reaches Calgary.

* 1886, August 13^th - Sir John A MacDonald drives the last spike at mile 25, Cliffside, on the Esquimalt and Nanaimo  Railway on Vancouver Island.  The line became part of Canadian Pacific in 1905.

* 1900, August 15^th - Regular service is commenced over the 3'0" gauge White Pass and Yukon Railway between Skagway, Alaska and Whitehorse, Yukon.

* 1907, August 29^th - The bridge under construction across the St. Lawrence at Quebec falls killing 75 men.

* 1909, August - Canadian Pacific completes the Kicking Horse grade relocation on the main line between Hector and Field, B.C. by substituting two spiral tunnels and lengthened line on a grade of 2.2% compensated, for the old "Big Hill" straight grade of 4.5%.

* 1907, August 29^th - The south cantilever arm of the Quebec Bridge over the St. Lawrence collapsed killing 65 or more workmen.

* 1919, August 25^th - a Canadian Pacific special train conveys the Prince of Wales from Montreal to Toronto returning to Montreal over the same route on 2 November 1919.  Locomotives 2225 and 2231 were used.  The Prince ran the locomotive from Flavelle to Trenton (20.9 miles) on the return trip.

* 1927, August 6^th - The third Toronto Union Station is opened officially by Edward, Prince of Wales. It was opened to the public on August 11, but passengers had to walk across to the old station tracks. The first day on which trains used the new, elevated, tracks through the new station platform was January 31, 1930.

* 1929, August 26^th - Canadian National Railways place in service, hauling the second section of the "International Limited" between Montreal and Toronto, the first road diesel electric passenger locomotive. This locomotive, no. 9000, consisted of two units, weighing a total of 335 tons.

* 1944, August - Canadian National commences tests, in the Montreal Terminal, with two way radio for the transmission of instructions to locomotive and switching crews.

* 1950, August 11^th - General Motors opens its plant at London, ON, for the building of diesel electric locomotives.

* 1950, August 22^nd - The railway system is paralyzed by a nationwide railway strike.  Services were resumed on August 31.

* 1951, August 26^th - Canadian railways adopt the Uniform Code of Operating Rules for train operation purposes.

* 1955, August 13^th - A causeway is officially opened across the Strait of Canso between Cape Porcupine and Balache Point, Nova Scotia. This involved a 14 mile main line diversion for the rerouting of railway traffic linking directly Cape Breton Island with the mainland. Previous movements were by car ferry across the Strait of Canso. The causeway was completed on May 14^th.

* 1956, August 27^th - - A formal opening ceremony took place for the Pacific Great Eastern Railway between North Vancouver and Prince George, BC.

* 1958, August 9^th - Canada's longest running named train &q

[JanOlov]

Greetings Master Tom and gentlemen.....

First of all a large dram of finest whisky for the gang and nice Cuban as well please.....

Puts a few $ in the tip jar and jukebox.

As you all know by know I love railroads and American in particular ...... Of course the steam is the stuff closest to my heart. But you can't really say no to some nicely painted first generation dielsels, can you? Also, some of the electrics are rather tasty as well....

I can tell you that I sometimes sit here with ,my face green of envy for you guys that had a chance to see this first hand, or even work with the real thing. To me you're some lucky

Once thing that I like best with the Classic trains Magazine are the first hand stories that sometimes are futured there. I don't care if they were an engineer, fireman, breakman or working on the trackgang. They all worked hard and to their best ability, regarding weather, tools and so on. So to me they all deserve the same credit, they're all needed to make the railroad work and run as smoothly as possible. I enjoy reading some stories about railfans and photographers and their ups and downs too, we're all been there, right? I always take time to listen when people in their best years want to share their life experience with me. Young people today are too busy or doesn't care to do that, which I think is a shame....(I'm sorry if step on someone's young feet here).

Tom, that stuff goes on stil today between my friends and me. "My" railroad is bigger and better than your "backyard" railroad wannabe etc... My friend that likes the UP and AT&SF usually is the one that catches the flak or he that likes the D&RGW, which is in good clean fun.

coalminer3, See, that's you already qualified for the "lucky " club....... The class J and all the N&W steamers are some of my alltime favorites. I remember having a wee white thin book with O. Wisnton Link photographs and a record in the back (I actually have two copies of that record), with a freight train with a Y and a A and passenger train on the other with a J. I like the sound of the J and their awesome whistles and when the lady starts to play Silent Night on the churchbells on that record, that doesn't hurt either. But, the side with the class Y and A and the heavy train working uphill , that gives you real chills down your spine, especially when they reach the summit and engineer start to blow the whistle which cracks first before it sounds right..... I mean, is there ANYTHING that sounds more lonely than a steamlocomotives steamwhistle in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere. 

EricX2000, I agree with you totally. A class J doing switching duties, that's nothing less than an insult to those that designed and built them I'd say.....sad indeed.

So, I really look forward to "hear" more of your stories from the railroad scene. Maybe we can have story telling evening or something....?

Enjoy your dram and Cuban lads.

Train #200 behind GP40s, crosses Mine Creek Bridge in the Cascades, December 29, 1979

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, ‘tis the Larsman with a powerful thirst today! I know it's just a bit early, BUT . . . a tall tankard of Shaefer ‘n a Larsman Special should hold me ‘til later . . . Round for the house ‘n treats for the crittAHs. Boris, don't forget to take Artie outback for his "field mouse"! <ugh> And of course the small jar of PPF is for YOU! <grin>

Nice weekend Hope so. Aside from some thunderstorms, things have been just fine in far "upstate New YAWK"! Gonna be hard to say goodbye to all of this, but the time has come. We depart tomorrow - so I'll not be back ‘til perhaps Wednesday, but most definitely Thursday. Behave yourself, Boris!! And of course, Ruth, you ‘n I have lots of <ahem> admin matters to catch up on.

Really a bunch of stuff to check out over the weekend, highlighted by those great Alaska trip pix from Da Boss.

I think the morning summary pretty much covers anything that I'd add, with this exception for Eric:

As far as I know, the D&H loco inventory did include EMD - SD45's come to mind. However, their passenger trains were more "known" for the Alco ‘n RF16.

Here's a link on the non-EMD locos:

http://www.joshuakblay.com/dhsurvivors.html

ALSO for Eric: Sorry that you wound up on the binnacle list this weekend. Taking it EASY means just that! Ease up on the throttle - there will be plenty of time for full speed ahead later on. /s/Doc Lars!

  

AND for Jan:

Don't know what to tell ya, mate. Gotta READ what's happening at the bar in order to become a regular. It's fun having you aboard, but you surely throw the curve ball quite well! <grin>

FINALLY for Pete: So you visited TWICE on Saturday! Well, I'd say you worked your way ALMOST fully back to my good graces. HOWEVER, since you're departing for a long absence, by the time you get back . . . . well, let's put it this way, your "dipper" will be the "thimble"!! <uh oh>

I do have a REQUEST: Unless there's a compelling reason why not, could I be FIRST for the RR Book Relay???? I say that because I'm not really sure how much time I'm gonna be spending on "the island." Got some ‘things' coming up in the fall, with perhaps a trip to the Keys - not sure right now. I don't want to hold up anyone waiting to get it. So sending the book to me now will push me to read it - then I'll forward it on. Thanks!

Now for something to compliment Cap'n Tom's Canadian History Month posting . . . You've seen ‘em B4, but they are worth looking at again!

Until the next time!

Lars

[JanOlov]

Greetings Kaiser Tom The Great and House Of Lords,

A round for the boys and an extra large for da Larsman if you don't mind......

LoveDomes, It's fun and great to be here. Probably will take me a few blue moones before I get the hang of things here.... Curve balls are great as long as they don't come back and hit you in the back of your head... Some really great people around here to say the least.

Great pics on CP as well, looking forward to see some CN now to even things out...

And now a studie in locomotive design....

Denver & Rio Grande Western 4-6-6-4, #3710, works a long freight out of Helper, Utah, 1939.

A monsterous Denver & Rio Grande Western 2-8-8-2, #3609, is
about to lead a freight out of Salida, Colorado one November
day in 1939. Coal smoke from the engine hides the front of
the boiler.

 

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Time for a NEW series to promote discussion of REAL Classic Trains here at "Our" Place:

Now Arriving on Track # 1

Back in the Day - Number One

Remember the Pullman Company

Back in the day a significant part of an overnight trip aboard a passenger train was the attentiveness given by the crew. Check these services, considered routine, for the traveler:

(1) Each passenger personally greeted by the Conductor to ensure and verify that the reservation and accommodation is correct.

(2) Your bags carried to your room by a Pullman Porter.

(3) Room features (light switches, call buttons, etc.) explained by the Porter.

(4) At the touch of the call button, the Porter arrives at your room to turn down the bed while you enjoy a night cap in the lounge car.

(5) With passengers asleep, the Porter's work continues to include shining shoes left in lockers accessible from outside your room.

(6) The Conductor and Porter ensure that all defects requiring attention by the service crews at the layover point are made known (burned out lights, torn or tattered cushions, etc.). These are annotated on the forms and paperwork required for each journey.

 

 

 

Enjoy!

Tom

[Anonymous]

Good day Tom and all at the bar. Drinks for all and a pint of Guinness for me. I was tied up all weekend with family matters (birthday), so I couldn't post any pics. I was able to transpose an Autocad® drawing to a JPG file to post here. It is just the drawing I'm working on for the DD-1 model.

Here are a couple of other images.

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A PINT OF Batham's please LEON.

ALLAN Many thanks for the link to the NZ electrics. I see there were some pre war electric locomotives from English Electric and some later ones from Brush.

DAVE Are there any of the Sacramento Northern steeple cabs in the museum in Sacramento, the bride and I are hopefully paying a visit there next month.

It seems the ex SP locomotives are still popular on the UP coal trains through here there was one with UP numbers through this evening.

JAN Yes that full English breakfast had me drooling. Like the Wood St café in Rugby, you have to have the eggs, bacon and sausage, then the rest you add for 35p each, great stuff. Also I have had something like your photo in a Scottish B&B before now.

Great description of how you became to admire American railroads. I am fairly new to the U.S. and knew very little about the railroads here although I picked up Trains and Classic Trains after my first visit. It is mainly through those mags and Our Place that I have a very growing admiration of the railroads here, although I have to admit it is with a growing regret that I did not see the days of steam and the classic trains that ran over here.

I too enjoy reading the articles from the guys who worked on the railroad. To be in the company of old steam drivers when they talk about their time on the railway is wonderful and a privilege.

LARS Many thanks for the photo of Plattsburg station, a great looking building and the D&H diesels. Great Canadian book and video covers, that Rites of Passage photo is one of the very best I have seen on a cover.

I have sent the book to Tom as he as kindly offered to get it ready for the relay.

Despite the dreaded 'Thimble' I have a photo for you. We have had many types of Dome cars but this is a dome on top of a dome. It was taken this year at Jeff city with the dome of the Capitol building in the background.It was on 35 mm film and I did not realise the dome was in it until I got the disc back from devloping.  

Have a safe journey home.

ERIC Take it EASY my friend, no more injuries please.

Thanks for the congrats on the 2,000^th post, with the slow speed I type at it is impossible to plan it, pure luck I guess. It is free Bathams for the rest of the week so have a pint on me.

Yes Irish railways do not get a lot of coverage in the British railway press, which is a great pity. In a museum near Belfast they have the Northern Ireland example of a Midland 2P 4-4-0,in Midland crimson livery, although it is 5'3" gauge. I can't remember when I last saw a photo of this loco in a magazine.

The ‘Jeep' in the photo is the last survivor of its class and it is preserved by the RPSI, and is used on special trains. These locos were that last locos in main line service in the UK when they were used on the Larne line into the 1970s hauling stone to help with a road improvement.

http://www.rpsi-online.org/locomotives/loco4.htm

CM3 Reading about the last days of steam, can you tell me if there was a celebration on lines when the last steam train ran in the U.S. I guess with the railways of Britain it was all one railway and the last run was easy to document. The British railway press is already gearing up to commemorate the 40^th anniversary of the last BR standard gauge steam next August. Some people are asking why the 40^th but I guess it makes sense as more people can remember and had worked on steam 40 years on whereas after 50 years the youngest person would have been 20.

Thanks for the congrats and have a Bathams on me.

RON Thanks for the very good Pennsy poster. Do you know what the ‘Curve' Premium beer was like.

TOM That was a really good of you to send what was said at the bar to Fergie. We really do have some special people at Our Place.

 Yes it seems the early bird gets the free beer at Our Place. Luckily we had a lot of people helping our friend

[EricX2000]

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, I know I am early tonight but I need to get some sleep. So I'll just have a hamburger, cheeseburger, tonight! 

Monday! Says it all, doesn't it? No comments from me!  

Tom –  Wow, so that train (Denali Star) had all together 9 Ultra Domes! Would be interesting to see a few pix from the X2000 in St. Louis in 1993 if you can find them.

Yeah, I am a big fan of the Road Runner cartoons! I have quite a few of them on tape.

Thanks for the Canadian RR History during the month of August! Always interesting to read.

Would be nice to travel with all that service provided by the Condutor and the Pullman Porter!

 

CM3 –  Yes, I have realised that I need to be more careful with what I am doing. I still have 2 weeks to wait until I will be allowed to lift anything. Hell Gate Bridge is correct!

JanOlov –  A streamliner is designed to pull passenger cars at a high rate of speed over the tracks, nothing else.

Stories from the railroad scene? I really don’t know if I have that much to tell. Let me think about it.

I like that picture of the Mine Creek Bridge in the Cascades!  The pictures of the D&RGW 4-6-6-4 and 2-8-8-2 show steam locomotives that are beautiful in a brutal way!

For you and your dad! Östersund 1968. 

Doc Lars –  Yes Doc, I will take it easy the next two weeks! Promise.

Nice book covers! Rites of Passage looks kind of sad though! The DVD BC Rail Collection would be interesting to watch!

Drive carefully on your way home!

Ron –  Are you getting all necessary information out of that drawing to build that DD-1?

Pete –  Thanks for the ‘Jeep’ link! So they were in service until 1970!

Nice picture of the UP Dome! Did you take the picture before the Rendezvous when your old camera broke down?

That Kansas City Southern locomotive looks beautiful!

 

 

Eric 

[siberianmo]

<courtesy: www.viarail.ca>

G'day Gents!

The 2^nd day of the work week has rolled around - funny how that happens! So, let's enjoy the offerings from our kitchen by ordering a <light> or <traditional> breakfast, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n of course a mug of freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee!

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:28 AM Monday - Aug 27^th:  Lots of coal country along that route we took from Anchorage to Fairbanks. Sorry to say that from what we heard, well over half of what's mined heads to Asia. Yeah I know, it's all about money. What's new

Kids back in school - BUT it's still AUGUST! <arrrrgggghhhh> These school districts have their collective heads where the sun doesn't shine - kids around here started TWO weeks ago!

Oh I shuda known - Slobbering Pennsy Freak! Yeah, right - and YOU the NYC aficionado at that! <grin>

Quarters for Herr Wurlitzer, round ‘n chat most welcome!

Jan (JanOlov) at 9:58 AM Monday - Aug 27^th: With perhaps one of the finest Posts from our Resident Scottish Swede, I had to read it twice to ensure authenticity! The man does have a serious bent ‘n strings the words together quite well at that! <grin>

Don't worry about "young feet," I don't think we have any ‘round here anymore!

A mighty fine shot of that train on the trestle!

Round ‘n cigars always appreciated!

Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:52 AM Monday - Aug 27^th: Rounding out a nice morning of Posts comes our Manager! Great to have you aboard ‘n really am impressed by your dedication to the bar. How many guys do we have who keep "Our" Place in focus while away from home Think about it . . .

I have a couple of those Canadian RR books in hard cover - Passing Trains is a "keeper," as is Rites of Passage.

Regarding the RR Book Relay - if Pete says it's okay - I'll ship the book to you!

But, let's keep this stuff via Email . . . .

Have a safe trip back 'n we look forward to your next visit (so does RUTH!!!) - ohhhhhhh!

Round, visit, covers ‘n chat most appreciated!

Jan (JanOlov) at 12:16 PM Monday - Aug 27^th: Chat for Lars - Pix for all!

Another round too!

Ron (DD1) at 4:09 PM Monday - Aug 27^th: Good to see ya again, was wondering what was going on down in "Mississip" . . . <grin>

Drawing, Pix ‘n round appreciated!

 

Pete (pwolfe) at 9:56 PM Monday - Aug 27^th: A finer Post will not be seen in these parts, as our Bar Chandler made it "in" for his daily offering. Nicely done, Mate!

What a great shot of that UP dome! Lars will indeed luv it! Didn't know you had it ‘til the film was developed, eh Now that's a great surprise, fer sure, fer sure!

Wouldn't it have been something to travel aboard that KCS we saw in KCity What a great preserved train they've got ‘n it's a special event to see her at Union Station. We were most fortunate that day to see so many fine looking displays, eh

Figured you'd like the Pullman Post! They were at the top of their game, back in the day, eh

Your Email was received - thanx for the prompt reply ‘n concurrence to get the RR Book Relay going!

Round, visit, link, foto ‘n chat most appreciated!

 

Eric (EricX2000) at 11:27 PM Monday - Aug 27^t

[JanOlov]

All hail King Tom.....and the Knights OF The Turntable!!

A large beer round the bar and a Cuban as well if you don't mind please.

pwolfe, thought that would become a regular here from now on. You can't beat a good steady breakfast....

EricX2000, how right you are! I can only imagine what some of the "old guard" thought about it.... Always enjoy your awesome Östersund pics, feel free to keep 'em coming....

siberianmo, glad to be entertaining mate. I have to reread the posts sometimes to make sure things comes out right. Not leaving anything out for missunderstandings you know... It's hard and heavy work to keep up with the big regular stars in this forum...

Here's few more reasons why, well, like Milwaukee Road.....

Class EF-5 helper set returns light to Avery, drifting downhill over Turkey Creek Trestle.

Train 262 on Kelly Creek Trestle. The E-73 is assisting an SD-45 and two GP-40's on the 1.7 percent climb.

A DFW whines downhill on Hull Creek Trestle.

Train 201 crosses the Peedee Viaduct with a hollow rumble. This bridge, just west of milepost 1829, was never upgraded from open to ballasted deck.

A DFE crosses over Kelly Creek Trestle, with its second half. Too heavy to make it up the 1.7 percent from Avery to Roland in one piece, this DFE had to double the hill, using both its head end and remote units on each cut.

Eagle Nest Tunnel, between Francis and Sixteen Mile Canyon was the third of eight tunnels in Sixteen Mile Canyon (also called Montana Canyon). These were the first mainline tunnels west of Tunnel City, Wisconsin. From Eagle Nest's east portal, a black hole in a white limestone cliff, a steel trestle flung across the to the opposite side of the canyon. Thias costly construction, all built on a 1 percent (compensated) eastbound grade, was necessary to avoid a particular sharp kink in Sixteen Mile Canyon. This Agust 11 1979, train 200 has been audible for some time as it trudges up the canyon. A hollow rumble announces the train's approach in the tunnel. The train pops into daylight, a streamer of blue-grey exhaust coming with it, and with its units bellowing, crosses the trestle and slowly climbs up the canyon. The Miwaukee Road was endowed with (or cursed by) many spectacular locations.    

 

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.   We had a cloudburst yesterday afternoon which flooded some roads (on the way home, of course), but we made it after awhile (via back roads).  Gas is at $2.89 and Sox play the Yankees in a three-game set staring this evening in New York.  I know, Frostbite, the math is starting to look a little better.

Lars visited with the bookmobile.  Passing Trains is a good one.  Be careful en route.

DD1 sent drawings.  The front end on that locomotive is a bear; curved roof and curved windows.  Any insight on fabrication for those of us who enjoy this sort of thing?  The PRR wartime ad is truly a stylized rendition of the Jersey Meadows; I don't ever recall them looking like that.  Anyway, there is certainly an interesting set of locomotives.  It was interesting to see that the mainstays of PRR steam were conspicuous by their absence.  I know, Boris, many of the PRR designs dated back to the Great War and one of the best designs they ever had came from the C&O.   Hoo boy!  Curve beer.  After a few of those, they threw you on top of the doghouse on the I1, and dragged you up the hill.  

Leave it to Pete to come up with a double dome.  "Columbine" was a famous name train before the name became a symbol for things darker.  The "celebration" for last steam runs varied from road to road.  Some had some celebrations while others just let the string "run out."  PRR was an example of the latter.  Our friends in the UK seem to pay more attention to some parts of their industrial heritage than we do.  Different way of looking at things, I guess. 

Eric - Good - behave yourself.  I overdid PT when rehabbing my knee yrs ago.  More reps did not turn out to be better.  The PT person was truly upset with me/ 

Jan sent MILW pictures.  First off, thanks for the kind words.  D&RG standard gauge steam is fascinating stuff.  I have 4-5 books on the shelf somewhere dealing with the subject.   The MILW shots were good ones.  The shot at Kelly Creek was toward the end with Joes helping diesels.  If you look sharp at some of the other all diesel shots you will see that the wires are gone although the supports are in place.  Reminiscent of some parts of the old VGN around here.  Doubling a hill is something to be avoided - it's interesting to watch but awfully expensive. 

Stories - oh, we got ‘em.  Ask OSP and Lars  - some of them are even true (LOL).  Scroll back through the old thread and you will find some pieces that I posted which qualify as "stories."  I am working on one for the upcoming holiday season - they are time consuming to research and write because I don't like to rely strictly on my memory (I think).

OSP forwarded Canadian history (always interesting) along with a fine piece of Pullman material.  I have a couple of books of Pullman instructions somewhere - one for porters and the other for buffet service.  The second book has approx. four pp. on how to serve beer - Pullman did it a special way.  No, Boris, they didn't bite the caps off of the bottles with their teeth - geez!   

So know you know what an SPF is.  PRR was a presence in Boston because they had through service between Boston and Washington (PRR cars) along with lots of other stuff which ran in and out of South Station.  So that's how I got interested in the P Company.  Later, of course, came exposure to the electrified zone(s), and rides on various passenger trains to different parts of the system.  BTW, we have people standing in line to bid when we have a job open up in Alaska.  Everyone wants to go there.  

Work safe

[siberianmo]

NOTICE!     NOTICE!     NOTICE!

The RR BOOK RELAY has begun!

Pete (pwolfe) has a book that he'd like to share with the boyz - it's called Red for Danger. 

So what's a RR BOOK RELAY

For the guyz interested in reading this book, here's how it works:

(1) Send me an Email with your full postal mailing address.

(2) Upon receipt of the book, send an Email stating that you received it.

(3) Before mailing it to the next person on the list, make your written comments on the blank page(s) provided.

(4) Send me an Email stating that the book has been mailed to . . .

(5) Last person on the list - which will be me - mails it back to Pete.

(6) I will ensure that all participants get an Email compilation of the comments made . . .

Simple enough

 

Signed up are:

Lars (LoveDomes) - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) -

Eric (EricX2000) - Tom (siberianmo)

Now WHO ELSE wants "in"

Let me know by EMAIL because sometimes things Posted at the bar have a way of getting misplaced (ie: not read)!!

 

Let's have some fun with this!

 

Tom

[Anonymous]

Good day Tom and all loyal bar attendees. Drinks for all and the usual Guinness for me. It's a little too early for the single malt Scotch. That occurs around 1700. I'm going to start with some calendar art of the Pennsylvania Railroad and post a new (old) one each day or post whichever comes first.

I think I first got interested in trains from calendars. I can't remember where or when I saw railroad calendars.

Jan: I liked those pictures of the traffic over those trestles on the Milwaukee Road, especially the one of the EF-5 electric. The scenery is absolutely gorgeous, something you can't see except from a train. I only got a glimpse of the Milwaukee Road when I first drove out west along I-90 in 1964. I think it was in Spokane or Tacoma where I saw the electrics. That English breakfast looked good enough to eat. When I was in Australia, their bacon was the best I ever tasted. They don't cure it like we do here, therefore it is much more perishable. I wonder if they do the same in England or New Zealand. Anyone know? And might it be available here.

Pete: I never tasted Curve beer, or even knew it existed until yesterday. I can tell you from the label, that it was brewed by the Altoona Brewing Co. Some info follows:

Brewery:	Altoona Brewing Co.
Name of beer:	Horse Shoe Curve Porter
Country:	United States
Beer Style:	Porter
Beer Year:	1930's
Food goes well with:	Ice Cream Light meats Pork chops Shellfish Steak Veal
Brewery type:	Regional
Ounces in regular serving;	12
Ml in regular serving:	355
Typical Container:	Bottle
Type of glass recommended:	Pint Glass - Large, thick sided, slightly bulged near the rim
Serving Temperature:	55F / 13C
Fermentation Type:	Top
Pasturized:

Eric: I'm accumulating some information on DD-1's, but there isn't too much available. I contacted the Pennsylvania Railroad Museum to see if I could get a blueprint of one, but to no avail. It seems that I could probably find some good information if I was to do the research in person at their archives library. I now have five drawings, all at unknown scales. Working from a known dimension, I'm able to construct a scale that matches the drawing. The only trouble is none of the drawings agree with one another. I will have to take the best guess as to a dimension and make adjustments as I go along until it looks right.

CM3: Although I haven't started the actual construction yet, I'm also writing  a construction article on high to build it. The basic construction will be 50/50 wood and metals. It is my intention to power it using either old cordless drill motors and gear boxes,   a trolling motor or one from a kids sidewalk car. The overall size will be approximately 22 ½" tall x 15 ¾" wide x 97" long. This is in 1 ½" to the foot scale, a scale that is easy to work in. I still haven't come up with a means or making the 72"drivers (9" scale dim).

There are no castings available for that size, so I'm thinking about slices of 9" diameter steel tubing for the tread and flange, and a steel center, machined and brazed in place. This would be an easy job for a CNC machine, so I might inquire about that path. Overall, don't expect this project to be completed anytime soon. I tend to work in spurts when the inspiration hits me so I don't expect any forthcoming progress reports. I will report when I have reached a milestone worth reporting.

That's about it for now, so enjoy.

BTW, How many of you are loyal and trusted Shellbacks of the Royal Order of Neptunis Rex?

Ron (DD-1)

[Anonymous]

Hello again! How lucky can you get? Drinks all around. I said at an earlier time that I had a picture of "Jolting Joe" and Red Barber, but I can't identify the guy in the middle.

How did that query box get into the enlarged picture

 

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Some activity from Ron (DD1) . . .

Hmmmmmm, that mystery foto looks like the Super Chief to me . . .

Later!

Tom

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

I see Jan 'n CM3 Shane 'n DL have made it "in"

 

Time again for a Fallen Flags to get the juices flowing . . .

The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #21

Here's another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 136 of the Original Thread>

Great Northern Railway (GN)

  

Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.  

Headquarters: St. Paul, MN

Mileage:

1950: 8,220

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 642

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 39,055
Passenger cars: 579

Principal routes in 1950:

St. Paul, MN-Seattle, WA via Willmar, MN and New Rockford, ND
Minneapolis-Minot, ND via St. Cloud, MN, Fargo and Grand Forks, ND
Superior, WI & Duluth, MN-Grand Forks via Crookston, MN
Minneapolis & St. Paul-Duluth & Superior via Brook Park, MN
Barnesville, MN-Winnipeg, MB via Ada and Crookston, MN
Portland, OR-Vancouver, BC via Seattle, WA (trackage rights on NP Portland-Seattle)
Willmar-Sioux Falls, SD & Sioux City, IA
Havre-Great Falls-Helena-Butte, MT
Shelby-Great Falls-Billings, MT
Bend, OR-Bieber, CA via Klamath Falls, OR

 

 

Passenger trains of note:

Badger (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Superior-Duluth)
Cascadian (Seattle-Spokane, WA)
Dakotan (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Williston, ND)
Empire Builder (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Gopher (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Superior-Duluth)
International (Seattle-Vancouver, BC)
Oriental Limited (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Red River (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Grand Forks, ND)
Western Star (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with CB&Q and SP&S)
Winnipeg Limited (St. Paul-Minneapolis-Winnipeg

* * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *

Some drumheads from the GN:

Enjoy!

Tom  

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please Ruth on this hot mid Missouri day.

ERIC Yes the photo was taken just before the 35mm camera got its soda bath on the Texas Eagle. The bride saw the train as she came home from work, I think the train was there as part of a rail safety to do with grade crossings. The train was hauled by two of UP's ordinary diesels not the heritage units through here.

Apparently KCS have painted a few of their new locomotives in the colors of the old loco in the photo. I have not seen one yet but it will be something to look for when visiting Kansas City.

Thanks for the photos.

Three other UP cars that were at Jeff City

If anyone knows any details on them it would be great 

JAN A good breakfast does indeed set you up for the day.

Many thanks for those great Milwaukee Road photos. What a great location and the sound of those trains heading up the grade must have been magnificent.

CM3 Thanks for the info on Jan and DD1's posts. I did notice the wires had gone, I wonder what those electrics sounded like climbing the grade.

One of the reasons for the great interest in British Railways was a gentleman named Ian Allan. He produced a book in the war years that listed the locomotives and their details, of the Southern Railway for whom he worked for at the time, despite some opposition from his bosses, a friend of his knew the chairman who gave it the OK. This was met with great success so he produced books on the others of the Big 4.It was the start of a very successful railway publishing business.

There were books on the 4 and there was a combine volume that listed all the BR locomotives, another book that was issued was the ‘Locoshed Book' that listed the depot allocations of the locomotives. A Combine Volume was a very much-prized birthday or Christmas present. The last Ian Allan combine volume was issued in 1989. There is usually an older combine re-printed each year and these sell out. I have seen an original ‘unmarked' combine from the 1950s go for $400 on e-bay.

RON The bacon in Britain is a lot different to the bacon here, it is a lot thicker and wider and not as crisp as it is here, lucky I really enjoy the bacon over here.

Thanks for the photo, there was some great artwork in those railroad calendars.

The Horse Shoe Curve Porter sounds an interesting beer; I see CM3 has heard of the brew and its effects 

TOM Many thanks for the kind words; yes it was a surprise to see the dome on top of the dome when I got the disc back. It was hard to get photos there as the site was a bit congested and the sun was quite low.

We were fortunate that day when traveled to KC, on the old Amtrak schedule and we had the full 4 and a half hours timetabled. It is one of the great pleasures of being interested in railroads when you go somewhere and there is something to see that was not expected.

Another photo taken on that day in K.C.

Many thanks for the Great Northern Fallen Flag encore and the Drumheads. It is good the Empire Builder is still thought of the premier named train today a tribute to the Great Northern of old.

Glad the book made it to you, well done USPS. The photo you have taken of the cover has come out really good. 

Well RUTH a round please and the treats for the Mascots and yes BORIS your usual PPF

Pete.

[Gunneral]

Hi Tom and all,

Drinks all round please Leon, how about a Tui?

Tom. The Fallen Flags and Drumheads were very interesting posts, great reading and veiwing. The A type coaches NZ rail are using stem from the late 1930`s and have been re-built numerous times, the chassis and framework are about all thats left of the original build, the BR Mk2 coaches are a vast improvement in ride comfort and quality. Thought I would`nt enter in the book circle of Petes book due to the overseas` mailing hassle.

Lars.  Great pics on all you`re posts mate.

Pete. Enjoyed all you`re pics and posts, looking forward to you`re A4 write-up, my favourite loco by far! Glad to see you found the NZ electric loco sites OK, the EF`s are Bo-Bo-Bo`s and are used on express freights on the North Island main trunk line.

Eric. Hope you are feeling a lot better now after you`re off weekend? The time difference between NZ and the States is that we are about 15hrs ahead of EST.  Did you manage to find those NZ electric loco sites at all? Enjoyed reading all you`re posts.

Ron. Did you find the NZ electric sites OK in the end?

Jan. Easy on the full English breakfast, I just have it as a special once a week now! Enjoyed you`re pics.

Cm3. Thanks for the interesting info on you`re posts.

Dave. Nice to see you onboard.

Tom. Nearly forgot you`re Pullman disscusion. In the late 50`s and early 60`s used to ride on The Tees-Tyne Pullman from London King`s Cross to Newcastle-on-Tyne when going on furlough, had to pay a 5 shillings excess fare which was worth it for the extra comfort and the Bar facilities, used to be partial to Newcaste Brown Ale in those days, it was nicknamed "Journey into Space" by the locals in Geordieland!

See ya,  Allan

 

[EricX2000]

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

It is Tuesday Leon, I think it is time for my Steak & Bisquits! Lots of extra marinade, please. Tui!

Kind of slow day here in Phoenix. 111° F and it will be about the same tomorrow. This was the 28th day with >110° F this summer. 

Tom –  I remember the shots looking back at the trailing consist of the ARR train. Beautiful!

I am taking it slow, just needed a few reminders! But at the same time it is kind of boring not being able to do any physical work. But it should be better in a few weeks when my rehab excercises will include the arms.

Looking forward to the day when I get that book to read, Red for Danger!

Great Northern Railway! Thanks for the info! I like several of the drumheads! Empire Builder should be something for Amtrak!

JanOlov –  I am afraid I don’t have that many Östersund pictures. I’ll see what I have.

Beautiful pictures of all those trains on the trestles! A lot exhaust fumes coming out of the tunnel with the train!

CM3 –  Yes, I am trying to behave, but sometimes it is hard not to try just a little bit. But it is stupid!

Ron –  I will check my books and other material to see if I can find anything on the DD-1. If I do I will scan it and send it to you.

Pete –  Those UP cars are really shiny sparkly clean! City of Portland, Katy Flyer and Columbine are all described on UP’s site. The link will take you to a page where you will find the name of the cars. Click on each name and you will get the desciption for each car.

http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/history/histequip/index.shtml

Nice picture of the UP loco painted in Missouri Pacific’s colors!

Allan –  Thank you, I am feeling better and I will hopefully go back to work the week after Labor Day (next week).

No I never tried again, I found quite a bit of info on NZ locos in a few books I have. It is very interesting since I didn’t know anything before you started to come to the bar!

 

 

 

Eric

 

[JanOlov]

Good morning Master Tom and fellow magicians.....

A round and Cuban for everybody please.....

Puts some $ in the tip jar and jukebox, which start to play some classic railroad related music a la Hank Williams etc....

Gunneral, nae bother son.....  I'll just put a week worth of full english breakfast on one plate for you.... Glad you liked the pics, Milwaukee Road had some serious beautiful scenery.

EricX2000, All your pics from around the "old country" are great and very much appreciated by myself and the "old man", so whatever they are keep them flowing freely....

DD1, I thought that you like these my good man.... electrics and all.

E-50 heads east from Maple Valley, the rear of its train curving through one of several bridges over the meandering Cedar River.

E-47 at Hyak with the Cascades in the background.

Two Little Joes with the unique E-78 in the lead, whir upgrade towards the west portal of the St paul Pass Tunnel at Roland.

E-35 sorting out cars at Haugan, these cars will be taken west by the train to which the E-35 has been called to assist. The westbound grade stiffened here from 0.7 to 1.7 percent, so this was the logical point to add helpers to heavy westbounds.

DFW at Donald, Montana. Two Little Joes with a SD-45 and a GP-40 struggle up the last few feet of 2.0 percent to continental divide.

[siberianmo]

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PLEASE READ THESE MORNING ACKNOWLEDGMENTS!!

Wednesday's Witticism

There are two sides to any man's argument. His and the wrong one.

G'day Gents!

Mid-week in mid-continent in mid-USA ‘n time for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n of course some freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee!

And for those with a memory, here's a link to a subject that drew some interest several months back:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2007/08/28/war-panel.html

 

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Jan (JanOlov) at 7:25 AM Tuesday - Aug 28^th: A fine spate of fotos ‘n narrative to go with ‘em! What's NOT to like about that scenery, eh

Not sure, but methinks you may have confused me with Lars . . .

Idea of this Thread is 'n has been to ENJOY the interaction amongst those who frequent the bar. Looks like you're getting the "hang" of it . . .

The only "secret" for anyone interested in full participation is to take the time to find out how we do things 'round here.

Round 'n cigars appreciated!

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:27 AM Tuesday - Aug 28^th: Looks like the dreaded Yankees imploded with that 3 out 4 loss to the Tigers. BoSox should be breathing a bit easier as September approaches. Cardinals are making things interesting, but the Cubs ‘n Brewers aren't doing much to pull away. Snakes are still in 1st in the NL west, but the4 heat is on. Watch the Reds - in spite of the double-loss last nite, they've been moving up 'n causing ripples!

It's always interesting to me when there's some reading material on the way it was, or as you like to put it - Back in the Day! Pullman was quite the innovator. But alas, they got too big for their "britches" when the courts made ‘em break up. A story for ‘nother day, perhaps.

Quarters, round ‘n visit most welcome!

Ron (DD1) at 11:42 AM ‘n 12:57 PM Tuesday - Aug 28^th: Our Resident Mississippi Connection checked in from the state with the most overweight people (according to the news of the day)!

I have a modest collection of train calendars - very modest. Some super fine Pix on ‘em. One day I'll probably put ‘em in a collage - if I live that long that is! <grin>

Conway yard is a monster!

Methinks there are far more Pollywogs than not!

The English-speaking seafaring tradition maintains that all sailors who cross the equator during a nautical voyage must undergo rites of passage and elaborate rituals initiating them into The Solemn Mysteries of the Ancient Order of the Deep. These rituals date back to the Middle Ages, though the current ceremonies are most likely derived from Viking traditions. Those who have never "crossed the line" are derisively referred to as "pollywogs" or simply "slimy wogs". Upon entering the domain of His Royal Majesty, Neptunus Rex, all wogs are subject to various initiation rituals performed by those members of the crew who have made the journey before. Upon completion of the initiation ceremony, the wogs are then known as "trusty Shellbacks". If the crossing of the equator is done at the 180th meridian, the title of "Golden Shellback" is conferred, recognizing the simultaneous entry into the realm of the Golden Dragon. If the crossing occurs at the Greenwich or Prime Meridian, the sailor is considered to be an "Emerald Shellback".[

Check out my Post regarding that "mystery man" in the foto of Joe D ‘n Red Barber.

Rounds ‘n visits helped make the morning ‘n early PM!

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[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Wednesday's 'round here have been OPTIONAL Toy 'n Model Trains Day! for quite awhile. We used to call it Pike Perspective's Day - but found that most of us do not have pikes, so the name was changed. But the idea remains the same, let's share some narrative 'n fotos of our RR hobby interests.

 

Here's some fine "stuff" from BK (BudKarr) that was provided over on the Original Thread from Page 321 . . . It's a May 3rd, 2006 offering from a guy who we miss very much 'n can only wonder how things evolved with Lydia and her illness. <sad>

 

As this may be my final "Pike Perspective Day," or "Toy & Model Trains Day!" (the latter name seems more appropriate to the submissions of late) postings for awhile, I thought to continue with my Euro flavor of two weeks ago:



Trix SNCF BB 426000 ELECT LOCO

QUOTE: Prototype: French State Railways (SNCF) class 426000 dual system locomotive. "SYBIC" dual system locomotive. B-B wheel arrangement. Assigned to the freight service area (FRET).

from: Trix



Trix CFL CL 3600 ELECT LOCO

QUOTE: Prototype: Luxembourg State Railways (CFL) class 3600. In Bordeaux red as the prototype looked in Era IV. Design similar to the French BB 12 000.

from: Trix



Brawa Rail Car BR 465 (1950s-70s)

QUOTE: At the end of the 1950s, the electric power cars of the ET 65 series had become worn out through hard daily use. The acquisition of a replacement vehicle was out of the question for various reasons. Thus the DB decided to completely refurbi***he vehicles. All 23 power cars still in existence were therefore taken to the Stuttgart-Bad Cannstatt depot and completely reworked between 1961 and 1963. The complete renovation of the front part was the most obvious. The previous connecting doors were removed, the smooth surface front was equipped with 2 large rubber-mounted windows. At the other end, rubber beadings were attached to panels in order to give weather protection when moving from car to car. The operator stands were completely modernised, an inductive train protection system was the safety standard at that time. The passenger comfort was significantly increased by new lighting and padded seats. In the modernised form, the ET 65 or from 1968 465 power car was in reliable daily service until its replacement by the S-Bahn in 1977.

from: Brawa



Brawa Diesel Locomotive BR 216 (1970s-80s)

QUOTE: In 1975 the new colour scheme (often referred to as "turquoise/beige") was officially introduced for locomotives and carriages. The Bundesbahn symbol, the DB "biscuit" was originally sea-blue in colour. A number of locomotives of the 216 series were also painted in these colours which were typical of epoch 4 up to 1987. But even after that, many vehicles remained in service with the former colour scheme. And many of these also received the new eye-catching red DB symbol over the existing paintwork.

from: Brawa



Brawa Diesel Locomotive BR 232

QUOTE: The DB group has changed its "appearance" once again. The well-known DB logo will be extended in future according to whether the loco is owned by "Mobility", "Networks" or "Logistics". Since Railion counts as part of DB Logistics, the logos on Railion locomotives will also be changed. The new version is the simple logo "Railion" without the well-known box, supplemented by "DB Logistics". One of the first locomotives affected by this is the 232 675-9.

from: Brawa



Trix METRONOME 146.1 TRAIN SET

QUOTE: "Swinging in Time" - "Metronome" is the brand name for ten new bi-level trains operated by the Metronome Railroad Company Ltd. in Uelzen, Germany. These very modern locomotives and cars can be recognized from a distance by their striking, sophisticated design in the colors of yellow, white, and blue. Metronome has linked the cities of Hamburg and Bremen as well as Hamburg and Uelzen since December of 2003 as a regional express train railroad. The train name Metronome symbolizes together with the logo of a swinging pendulum the schedule concept of departures on an hourly schedule. Musicians are familiar with a metronome as a beat generator. For that reason the slogan for the Metronome trains is "Swinging in Time".

from: Trix


Note: As has been past practice, Lydia has helped immensely with these model train retrievals. My guess is she thinks I am learning something! <wink>

Enjoyed the posting by my "bookend" on the "Lionel Diesels!"


Good health and ha

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo