Good evening Tom and all present. Drinks for all and a pint of Guinness for me. I am really p----- off at the moment, so I'll have a double "The Glenlevit" for a chaser. I spent 15 minutes composing this post and with one fell swope, sent it off accidentally into the ether forever, so again I start over.
First for Pete: In regard to your question about how poisonous the snakes are, bites from poisonous snakes are rarely fatal. If the person bitten has a heart condition and in generally poor health, the bite can be fatal. If you can get medical attention quickly, most people bitten recover. The worst that can happen is, gangrene can set in and amputation may be necessary. Baby snakes are more deadly than adult snakes because the baby injects all of its venom at once, while the adult does so in smaller measured doses. People down here are aware of snakes and take precautions, like not sticking your hand under a piece of dead wood or into a dark space. Some snakes, like the cottonmouth are very aggressive and will chase you if disturbed, like when mowing tall grass. My lawn tractor is our of commission at the moment and it will take at least two weeks before I can cut the grass. I will have to take precautions, like wear high "cowboy" style boots. There are more poisonous snakes in other parts of the world. Australia, India and South America are some of them. Having originated in New York City, I've learned to live with snakes and other beasties down here in Ms.
For Jan: I admire your knowledge of Scotch and other spirits. As you so correctly stated, Scotch as distilled only in Scotland is called "whisky" while all other spirits are called "whiskey". The latter being applied to Bourbon, Rye, Irish, Canadian, etc. The only exception I found was a scotch distilled in Japan that calls its spirit "whisky". This I don't understand, but I saw reference to the latter in a website on Scotch whisky's. I had a Norwegian friend who was a merchant seaman and when he came into port in San Francisco, he would invite me aboard to help drink all the Rignes beer. Them's were good times.
For DL: If you haven't already left, I wanted to mention, while in Canada, especially around Quebec, you must go to the malls there. They are huge (except possibly for the Mall of America). They have under one roof, an amusement park, ice rink, auto showrooms, super markets, restaurants and theatres. They are for the entire family and unlike any in the U.S.
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, glad to see this place is still open! Surprise med with something I haven't had for a long time. A cold Keith's please!
Missed last night but I'm back tonight. Doesn't take much.
Tom – I had to pass last night. I have been feeling strong all week and yesterday, when I was allowed to drive my car again, I went to the office, stayed too long and then had lunch at Cracker Barrel. All that made me feel totally exhausted and not too good so I had to get as much rest as I could. Feel better today. I’ll try to get my things together and take pictures for the Toy ‘n Model Train Optional. Just keep forgetting about it until I see your posts on Wednesdays. I don’t have a layout now but I certainly have a piece of track to put some models on for picture taking. The Amtrak photo is from Albany, NY. CM3 identified it correctly (as I expected). The Norwegian photo has its story below. Thanks for the UP ad from 1949. UP did not have any tracks in Arizona then, but now they do! I wonder from where the motor bus tour to the Grand Canyon started? Las Vegas? Nice drumheads!I love your pix from Alaska! Just have to go there some time in the future! Go to Denali National Park! By train.CM3 – Right on about the picture! I am not surprised you could identify it considering your interest in the B and A RR. Thanks for all the info!Below is something else I found in Albany.
Maybe it used to belong to Boston and Albany?As a bonus I am adding a picture from the cab of a Rohr Turbo.Lars – I am afraid Narvik is way off. The story about that railroad is below. New Haven on the book covers! A very interesting railroad! I just noticed three of them are written by a guy with a very Swedish name. I should have taken many more pictures from New Haven when I had the chance years ago. Remember a big coal tower north of New Haven.I bet that book about the Snowbound Streamliner is a good one. I have seen a documentary on TV a couple of times about that incident.Some real nice pictures of NYC locomotives. Love the last one of the ALCO. Ron – No way you bored me telling about your interests! A working model in 1-1/2 scale, does that mean it will be all, or almost all, metal? Here in AZ we have snakes, scorpions and spiders. But we haven’t had any snake around our house for a long time now. Doing yard work, we better look out for scorpions and Red Widows (spiders). JanOlov – I agree with you about the early streamliners! Maybe give them a few more modern details, but the trains in your pictures look great! Very interesting picture of City of San Francisco stuck in the snow! Pete – Happy Birthday Pete!!! You have your birthday the same day as my sister!You are absolutley correct about the plant prducing heavy water for the Germans during WWII! See below.That Class 5 in your picture is a very good looking steam locomotive!
Finally, this is what is (was) special about the track in my picture a few days ago.
The Norwegian heavy water sabotage was a series of actions taken by Norwegian saboteurs during World War II to prevent the German nuclear energy project from acquiring heavy water which could be used to produce nuclear weapons.Between 1942 and 1944 a sequence of sabotage actions by the Norwegian resistance movement, as well as Allied bombing, ensured the destruction of the plant and the loss of the heavy water produced. These operations — codenamed "Freshman", "Grouse" and "Gunnerside" — finally managed to knock the plant out of production in early 1943, basically ending the German research.The heavy water was produced at a hydroelectric plant, Vemork near Rjukan, in southern Norway and was transported by rail. First from the plant to a ferry (on the track in the picture). The tank cars were transported over a very deep (1,500 ft) lake to another railroad. A Norwegian, Knut Haukelid, discovered their plan and decided to sabotage a ferry carrying the heavy water across Lake Tinnsjø. He recognised a crew member and talked to him, taking this advantage to slip into the bottom of the ship and plant the bomb, after which he escaped. Eight and half kilograms of plastic explosive with two alarm-clock fuses were fixed to the keel of the ferry, D/F Hydro, which was to carry the railway tankers across the water. On 20 February 1944, shortly after setting off around midnight, the ferry and its cargo sank in deep water, finally capping the original mission's objective and halting Germany's atomic bomb development programme. A number of Norwegian civilians were killed as the ferry sank. Witnesses reported seeing barrels floating after the sinking, leading to speculation that they did not really contain heavy water. But an examination of records after the war showed that some barrels were only half full, and therefore would have floated. A few of these may have been
Great pics Eric! I think that I watched a program about the sabotage a few months back on Discovery Channel. Didn't they find the ferry with the loaded barrels on the bottom of the lake?
And for Pete,
HAPPY BIRTHAY MATE!
Now, where's the promised cake?
Here's a bottle of Lagavulin for the birthday boy and one for the bar to pass around when open again.
A quick question while I'm here fellas, is this a good book?
I want to know more about Milwaukee Road's bridges and trestles and about those found on Northern Pacific and Great Northern as well... So, would you recommend it?
Have a nice weekend!
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!
It's nice to be the manager, for I don't have to roll up my message to slip through the mail slot on Sunday! Really quiet ‘round here, but there's always Boris ‘n the crittAHs to keep things "alive"! <grin> Go ahead 'n feed 'em - they can't be made to wait much longer. <uh oh>
The reason I decided to pop in today has to do with it being the 12th of the month. So what's that?? It's the monthly anniversary for this tavern called "Our" Place. Established by Cap'n Tom on April12, 2005 and going strong.
Last year at this time we brought the place back from what appeared to be disaster. Two guys, no longer with us, were very instrumental in helping me convince Tom to keep going. So, let me be the first, and maybe the only one, to say HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO "OUR" PLACE best watering hole in cyber space! 28 months and going strong!
I see Leon is cleaning up after last night's fiasco in the pool room. Those track gangs surely make a mess. Why do they throw the pitchers against the wall when they make a pocket?? <oooops>
Just wanted to make a comment or two on the "things" I'm picking up on. Really nice to see the new guys taking a liking to this joint ‘n getting into the "swing" on things. READING the posts is key to getting along ‘round the place. Recognizing the works of others ‘n acknowledging special times (B'days comes to mind!) helps too - especially if YOU want the same treatment. Just like real life, this bar is somewhat like that, but of course we have MORE fun!
For Eric: Yeah, the more I thought about my "guess," the more I realized where you were going with that section of right of way in Norway. ShuddaknownbettAH. Appreciate the story though.
Sounds to me as if you're NOT doing as the doc says! There's NO reason to push the limits, IF you expect full recovery in a reasonable amount of time. What's the hurry??? Time on your hands? Spend it HERE! Thought for sure we'd see you during the daylight during this recuperation period . . . But as Da Boss says, we takes what we gets, huh?
For Ron:
Gotta use the word processor, mate! Always save your work. <grin>
For Jan: Haven't checked out that book, but I'm guessing it's a "gudun"!!
That's a mighty fine Scotch Whisky you selected for Pete!
For Da Boss: Keep up the great work, mate. These Saturday sessions would be lost without your submissions. Takes EFFORT to do what you do and I appreciate it! Movies at the Emporium - Pix from Alaska - Acknowledging the guys ‘n Encore posts. Yeah, takes EFFORT!
Some pix seen B4 - trains from Norway!
Norwegian State Railways - NSB - photo credit: Ian Britton from www.freefoto.com
Norwegian State Railways Class 73 EMU high-speed train - photo credit: Ian Britton from www.freefoto.com
Until the next time!
Lars
Good day Tom and all present. Drinks all around and especially for Pete One good thing about birthdays is, you can never catch up. We are all on the same train and going at the same speed.
Lars: Thanks for correcting my spelling of Ringnes beer. My word processor doesn't have that name in it's dictionary. It's 99° here today and more of the same for the next few days to come. The heat is keeping me from working in my shop turning out scale locomotives. I'm taking the time to make scale drawings in the cool inner sanctum of the house. I'm doing it on Autocad®, scaling up and down as needed from drawings in books and magazines. Love that pic of the Norwegian State Railways NSB. That's the kind of traction I go in for.
Eric: A movie was made in 1965, called "The Heroes of Telemark" that was about the heavy water project. It starred Kirk Douglas, Richard Harris, Michael Redgrave and a cast of lots more. Follows is a brief account from the internet movie database.
"During WW2 Norway was occupied by Germany. In the clear deep fjords they tried to produce "heavy" water; a vital component in the making of an atomic bomb. A weapon that would win the war for Germany. Norwegian resistance movement finds out about this and the allied are alerted. But will they have the time and opportunity to stop this from happening? Written by rof"
BTW, there was a program on the history channel the other night that indicated, the Japanese had the bomb and had tested one in Manchuria. It seems no one knew about it as it was super secret. It only came out in 2003 when one of the surviving scientists who had worked on it finally died and his widow made his notes public. Other surviving scientists came forth and acknowledged it as fact. It seems they didn't have the means of delivering the weapon such a distance. Talk about keeping secrets.
After drawing the plans for the DD-1, I plan to build most of the engine from wood, but use metal for the running gear. Since I don't have facilities to make castings for the drivers, I came up with a way to fabricate them using thick wall pipe and ¼" steel plate. That material I can easily handle with the equipment I have on hand. I'm thinking I can use motors and gearing from cordless drills to power the model. 12V cordless drills from Sears should work. I'll keep you posted on the project as it progresses, but it will take time. I usually do a lot of preliminary planning before jumping in to do actual construction. I guess that's my shipbuilding background controlling me.
See you later at the bar. Ron
Just let me drop this message here. I am surprised that Manager Lars and Cindy aren't here working overtime, hmmm.
Happy 28th Anniversary!!! Where is everybody? I think Boris is having a party back in the shed.
112°F today. Stayed inside most of the day.
JanOlov – Yes, they, the Norwegians, found the ferry in 1993 (I think) and managed to salvage some of the barrels with heavy water. I am afraid I don’t know much or anything at all about the book Railroad Bridges. Lars – I think you should talk to those track gangs. Throwing pitchers against the wall? Crazy!I am doing exactly what the doctor says. Plus some more, and that is the problem. I feel strong and confident I can do whatever, but when I try I am trying a little bit too hard. I am going to see the doctor who operated me tomorrow (Monday). Time? I have some time but the problem is I am involved in a few forums in the old country as well.Some nice pictures from Norway!! If you ever get a chance, go there!! Beautiful with all the mountains and deep fjords! And trains!Ron – I have seen “The Heroes of Telemark” a few times. It is a good movie but does not correctly reflect what really happened. The sinking of the ferry is correct though. I never heard about the Japanese bomb. Looking forward to reports on your project! Maybe you can show some pictures as well?
Eric
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A smile to begin the week!
The other team could make trouble for us if they win.
<A Yogi-ism!>
G'day Gents!
Remember the old Mamas ‘n Papas song, "Monday, Monday!" Well, it's here once more, just like the return of the full moon, high tide ‘n the critters of "Our" Place lining up for their treats - count on it!
Breakfast anyone Try the Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> special. Coffee's ready ‘n pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery are waiting for ya! [tup]
Some good news, with some not-so-good included. Received an Email from our West Wales Connection - Nick. He's not forgotten us ‘n hopes to situationally join us. Family illness of a loved one is taking its toll on available play time. We understand, hope for the best, ‘n will be here when you can make it in!
Reminder: Information relative to weekly "meals" and "Our" Place bartenders is included at the bottom of the daily Acknowledgments. Also, Page One of this Thread contains our way of doing things - should be reviewed from time to time, just to stay on course. Thanx!
B'day Watch List: Up next is Allan (Gunneral) who will be 72 on August 14th. So let's get it RIGHT - he's on the "other side" of the International Dateline - so greetings should begin TODAY!!!!
Happy Birthday Allan!
HELP WANTED! Okay guys, this is the time to put up or . . . Thursday I'm outta here after getting the morning ACKNOWLEDGMENTs out (maybe!). So, let's see if we can muster up some support - especially in the AFERNOON ‘n EVENING!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Jan (JanOlov) at 9:26 AM Saturday - Aug 11th: As mentioned previously, fine Pix ‘n discussion point for the snowbound train! That's the way we get things started ‘round here.
Quite a job you've got. Must be tough keeping away from the "samples," eh <grin> Had a buddy who was a beer truck driver ‘n delivery man. Never met a brew he didn't like! Well, maybe one or two . . .
To reiterate, I'm neither a critic nor a fan of UP. And yes, they put forth some marvelous passenger trains - Classics in every sense!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:30 AM Saturday - Aug 11th: First thing: Chill,Mate - chill! Can't fix ignorance. We're far better off without ANY guys like that. When you have to remind ‘em to acknowledge the other guy, or to show up for their own B'day bash, or . . . who needs it??!! Now you've got me going! <arrrrggghhh> Not really.
That book cover really goes well with the Pix from Jan. Yeah, I'd take being snow bound if the bar was still open - with some heat in the train, of course!
The link you provided really gives some substance to the story. Thanx!
Really "cool" NYC diesels! I'm a sucker for the Alco - every time! Long live the lightning bolt striping!
Ron (DD1) at 7:01 PM Saturday - Aug 11th: Glenlevit - good choice!
Sorry ‘bout that regarding your lost Post! As the Larsman said - SAVE - SAVE - SAVE in the WP. That's the only way to avoid the exasperation of losing a submission into the Ether.
I see Lars picked up on the Ringness Beer from Norway! Neighbor man from Norway used to warm his bock beer on the stove before drinking. That stuff looked like tar. Once got a snoot full, well the stories would pour forth, non-stop . . . <grin>
Thinking of <tweeting> you for Rules Violation . . . guess which one?? However, since you're still new at this, I'll slack off . . . for the time being! <uh oh>
Tom, terribly sorry about the edit, I just added the picture of the bottle of mouthwash....
So, Allan is our next birthday child, hmmm? Better give him this 1985 Dufftown whisky to enjoy in quiet evenings and weekends. And as always, a bottle for the bar as well.
I should probably sit in the corner of the classroom to think of my wrongdoings ... Oh well.
A quick qestion for you fellas, does anyone make the drumheads that you found on the observations cars back in the day? I remember see something about it a while back but I can't remember where...
I forgot the traditional ....
And as for keeping your hands off the good stuff while working, it really takes a strong mind and fast work to get out of the danger zone.....
For Jan: If you are speaking of drumheads for model trains - go to
http://www.tomarindustries.com/drumheads.htm#ALASKA
- they are the major manufacturer I'm aware of . . .
Oh yes, we do stock Dufftown Scotch Whisky!
Don't be too hard on youself - just use the Rat's Patoot Room if you wish to "think" over your transgressions!
Have one on me!
Tom
Cheers Tom, I should have said that I was reffering to the real fullsize ones.... Will look at the link that you kindly put up anyway, since I like HO railroading too.
......walks towards above mentioned room. "I'll be back out in a few hours fellas".
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Breakfast Blend); round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Weather has moderated some in that it is hot in the day, but cooler at night – makes it a little better – gas is at $2.74, and I heard a train on the old VGN tracks when I left for work this a.m. One can do this when the wind is right (recognize those GE horns anywhere). Let’s fire up the jukebox – another snake song, “Bitten on the Udder by an Adder.” I know, Boris, we’re running out of titles.
Anyway, break out the good stuff for a belated anniversary celebration. There’s a lot to talk about today, so here goes in no particular order.
Eric – The piece of hardware you photographed looks like the remains on an old penstock which was used to cool off critters (especially hogs) in stock cars; no Boris, we are not referring to the parlor car beauties of the Mentor and Southern Narrow Gauge. “Silver Dollar service,” indeed. Your other shot had all kinds of beasties from different owners/ predecessor railroads – display shots make for strange scenes. UP recently had all of their Heritage units together for pictures – probably never see that again. IMHO, the two best of the lot are the SP and D&RGW units. I’d like to see CSX do some – how about a big GE in Western Maryland black and gold?
Lars sent all sorts of stuff. Norwegian rr pictures were good ones. Then the bookmobile stopped by. Lots of New Haven material (all of which reside on the shelves). I won’t remar on too many of the pictures, except to say that the New Haven Color Pictorial with the Alco switcher shows what the area near the old Providence Station looked like, b4 the new one was built. The R.I. Capitol bldg. is in the background. The new station trackage and facilities sit about where the cover pot was made. Frattasio’s book on McGinnis is excellent. Ol’ Patrick B. was a rounder for sure – he went on to the B&M after causing havoc on the NYNH&H. Bob Liljestrand has done us a great service by putting picture books together. He has a monstrous collection of photographs and is very easy to talk to – he shows up at the Buffalo, NY train show every so often (much to the chagrin of my wallet) – ooh, gotta get pictures of those Erie sleepers at Salamanca, then there’s some BR&P material I didn’t have, etc., etc.
The Old Colony book is a good one, especially since some of that line has been resurrected and, OMG, turned back into a railroad! How about the Cranberry DL109 on the cover. Only one painted in that color by the NYNH&H. It pulled the “Cranberry” train. Last, Church is a guru on things SP. Pentrex (a long time ago) released a tape produced by the SP back in the 50s which showed about snow fighting equipment and activities. It had some footage of the City being pulled out of the snow.
Now, on to the NYC diesel pictures which show how their livery changed over the years. The F2 shows what is about the earliest livery – sold black with white stripes. 1605 and 1620 depict the classic “lightning stripe” paint; two tone gray and white; 4210 is a good rendition of the colors. Last is 1851 which shows the so-called “cigar band” scheme. Engine has been r# to fit into the PCs numbering scheme. Check out the PRR unit behind it.
DD1 – Based on a RDG design. Excellent! BTW, recluses and black widows live here, too. The former is a truly nasty example of the genre.
Pete – Belated happy birthday! Many thanks for the 0-6-2T information. I knew about the ones in Wales (anything that carries coal is of interest, of course), but I appreciate the “rest of the story.”
OSP keeps on keepin’ on. Hark, are the Cardinals stirring slightly? UP ad was a good one – I’ll bet you have some from the old National Geographic days which show the dome diners. Great Dismal Swamp? Egad! George Washington, who was known to take a plunge now and then in land speculation, got hammered by investing in the land scheme which was going to populate the swamp. Thanks for the Alaska RR pictures. I had a friend who modeled Alaska RR in HO; floor to ceiling scenery (a la John Allen) to capture the “look” of that part of the world. The windy River bridge shot jumped that forward in what’s left of my memory. Last, fine films at the “Theatuh.”
Jan Olov – See my remarks re the SP “City” above. Also, a nice set of UP city shots – lower one is, I believe at Cheyenne as the bridges look familiar. As for drumheads. OSP mentioned Tomar They make a variety of them for model trains (all scales, too); McDonald Models (Waterloo, Iowa) makes the real thing. They advertise in the back of Classic Trains.
Work safe
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH only you can bring a smile to my face on a Monday along with a "skip ‘o the heartbeat"! Let's start off with a hot mugga Joe with a jolt ‘n a couple of crullers from the bakery case.
Yes Boris, you may have those PPF, but first it's feeding time for the crittAHs. You know the drill!
Some Sunday activity I see, along with all kinds of Scotch whisky! This joint has taken on a new dimension since the arrival of our Scotsman Swede, Jan!
Let me offer my congrats to our friend from down under in New Zealand - a most HAPPY B'DAY to Allan (Gunneral)! 72 is OLD, mate , but hardly near the end of the line! Many, many happy returns. Drinks on me! Boris, ring the chimes!!
We've had two B'days pass by along with our monthly anniversary. The latter hasn't gotten the recognition (yet), but good to see the guys jumping on board for the B'day greetings.
By the way, if anyone wants "in" on the BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST - just send Da Boss an e-mail with the particulars (name -rank - serial # - ooooooooops), date of birth (month - day - year) and he'll add you!!
For Da Boss: Some good stuff in your dailies . . . wonder sometimes if the new guys are picking up on them. But, with repetition one either "gets it" or "forgets it." <grin>
DMI about Sunday - my pleasure!
Hoping the guys will help out on Thursday - I'll shoot for the early afternoon ‘n see what happens. Friday is looking like a get-away-day, but still a bit early to say for sure. The Sarge Mrs. hasn't made up OUR minds! <groan> <grin>
For Eric: Spending time on OTHER sites??? Well, that may require an adjustment in my thinking. Hmmmmmm.
Guess you could get us a customer or two . . . hope you are advertising "Our" Place at those other places! We surely could use a continuing infusion of new blood 'n interest. Tom is so correct about not looking back - especially when it concerns those who've made promises 'n not kept 'em! Anyway, TRY to help out on Thursday, ok????
For Jan: Good banter ‘n good sport! That's what we like ‘round here, real men with a sense of what's important ‘n what's not! Have one on me, mate! CHEERS!
I recall a conversation we had at the bar way back, about drumheads. Anyway, seems that the only real ones available are through auction sites and maybe some offbeat RR memorabilia outfit "out there" in the ether. I'd do a browse to find out. You'll get quite a few "hits" musical instruments, unless you "block" that with an advanced search. NO, NO, NO, I'm not an expert with this crap - Da Boss "taught" me! <grin>
Something to kick off the week on a happier note for our friend Shane who works so hard for those who dare to work in the depths of the earth.
To bettAH times! CHEERS!
I see Shane the coalminer HAS appeared with his morning submission along with some fine inside scoop on this ‘n that! A good read for Da Guys!!
I apologise in case that you find this post hard and slow to read, but my right hand is stuck in the keyboard, so I have to write this with my left hand.... and for those keys that I can't reach, there I have to use my nose.
I just found the MacDonald Models ad in Classic trains. It's funny how you miss things when you look for something .....
I see that that they're asking for $350 for drums and $350 and up for signs (looks like a period of water and bread for me, since I'd like on one the wall), any ideas what the difference is? I really hope that they jump onto to the www-limited soon.
And as our almighty Tom so promptly pointed out, just as I managed to forget it, it's Monday once again.
So I see it as my duty to try brighten this place up with a few nice drams around the bar....
Enjoy lads and slainte!
How about a Blast From The Past on this Monday
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #19
Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:
Chicago & NorthWestern (C&NW)
<A form of this was Posted on Page 133 of the Original Thread>
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Headquarters: Chicago, IL Mileage:- 1950 - 9,693 1955 - 5,000 Locomotives in 1963: Diesel - 744 Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars - 41.383 Passenger cars - 447
Principal lines in 1950: Chicago-Fremont & Omaha, NE Fremont-Lander, WY Nelson, IL-Madison, Il (St. Louis) Chicago-Minneapolis, MN via Madison & Wyeville, WI Milwaukee-Rapid City, SD via Wyeville, WI & Mankato, MN Eau Claire, WI-Duluth,MN Chicago-Milwaukee via Kenosha, WI Chicago-Milwaukee via Bain, WI Milwaukee-Green Bay via Fond du Lac, WI Green Bay-Ashland, WI via Rhinelander Green Bay-Ishpeming, MI Powers, MI-Hurley, WI Minneapolis & St. Paul-Omaha via Mankato Lake Crystal (Mankato)-Des Moines, IA
Passenger trains of note: Ashland Limited (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland) Dakota "400" (Chicago-Madison-Huron, SD) Duluth-Superior Limited (Chicago-Madison-Duluth) Flambeau "400" (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland) Kate Shelly "400" (Chicago-Boone, IA) North Western Limited (Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis) Peninsula "400" (Chicago-Green Bay-Ishpeming) Shoreland "400" (Chicago-Milwaukee-Green Bay) Twin Cities "400"(Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis) Valley "400" (Chicago-Green Bay-Menominee, MI) Of note: C&NW also was a forwarder for UP's streamliners and Domeliners (ie: City of Los Angeles, City of Portland) between Chicago & Omaha until Oct 1955.
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C&NW A-B-A Es <foto credit: unknown>
C&NW A-B-A Fs <foto credit: unknown>
Some drumheads of the C&NW
Enjoy!
Good afternoon Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Ruth, haven't seen you for some time. This is a quickie, but I'll have a ham sandwich. Sugar Cured Ham!
Just stopped by to wish a Happy Birthday to Allan!!! He is down there on the other side and ahead of us. Have a real good one!!!
Spent the morning at the doc's office. Everything was fine and he thought I should be able to start working in two weeks! Not full time right away, but still!
I'll be back later, at my normal hours!
Good day Tom and all present. drinks for everyone and a wee sip of of the following for me.
Glenlivet Single Malt Scotch 50 year old - Gordon MacPhail BottlingDistilled 1940. This whisky was distilled at The Glenlivet Distillery, Banffshire, in the Highlands of Scotland on the 3rd February, 1940. The whisky has matured in selected oak casks at the Distillery and more recently at the warehouses of Gordon and Macphail in Elgin. After spending over 50 years in cask it was bottled in the City and Royal Burgh of Elgin.Price: $2590.00.
I can't imagine a bottle of Scotch costing that much, but if I had one, I would start an IV with it.
For Allan Your're now getting neck and neck with me. Mine is not far off.
I spent yesterday drawing the plans for my model DD-1. I got the side detailed, but have to do more research on the top, front and rear views. BTW, can anyone lead me in the right direction to find DD-1 photos and especially dimensional data? I seem to have exhausted all my resources and not coming up with any new stuff.
I had to take the lawn tractor (Toro XL500) to the dealer for repair. He was surprised to see it, as he told me they are the more dependable ones around. He sees a lot of problems with John Deere, Troy Bilt and most of the others. He says Graveleys are the best (he sells them). He didn't have any Toros in for repair, but plenty of all the others, so I guess I made a good choice. I was able to pinpoint the problem, so maybe he will be able to get it back to me quickly, before the grass gets so tall, I'll have to bush-hog it.
Gasoline is $2.70 here in Ms for those who track prices.
Tom, I don't understand what "tweet" means and what violation I have committed. I guess I'll have to spank myself like John Cleese does in "Faulty Towers", one of the funniest programs and men around. DL might agree with me on this. I understand John Cleese has a ranch in Sonoma, Ca, not far from San Rafael where I moved from 20 years ago.
I'm also a big fan of English movies and English actors/actresses. Have been all my life. Does anyone remember the movie "The Titfield Thunderbolt"? It was about a group of villagers trying to save their railway that was to be shut down. Lots of tongue in cheek humor and good shots of a vintage steam engine that was dragged out of storage and put back in service to prove a point. This movie is over 50 years old.
Later gents, Ron
A better Monday than most! Thought we'd be hearing from the B'day Boy in New Zealand . . . perhaps tomorrow!
Jan (JanOlov) at 7:49 AM ‘n 7:56 AM ‘n 9:05 AM Monday - Aug 13th: Some on-line "back ‘n forth"!! Reminds me of the old days ‘round here when we'd get a couple of guys "on" at the same time. Was good for the "flow"!
CM3 Shane at 9:47 AM Monday - Aug 13th: <ouch> Song title "hurts"! <grin> We just happen to have THAT one on our jukebox - Herr Wurlitzter for you newer customers - just press T48!! Oh yeah, 5 plays for a quarter - coins are in our Coal Scuttle sitting just to the right . . .
Some fine elaborations provided, as always! Makes the Posting of this "stuff" worth the while when someone takes the time ‘n makes the effort to not only READ ‘em, but ENGAGE! That's what we hope for ‘round here, as Lars our Manager has been saying over ‘n over!
Much appreciation for the round, quarters ‘n visit!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:16 AM Monday - Aug 13th: I think if we were to bring back any of the recognition awards from past days <daze> at "Our" Place, the MVP (Most Valuable Patron) would most surely have you well into the running. Can't stress how helpful it's been to have you dependably showing up everyday. Not just cursory visits, but with chat, chatter ‘n "stuff" to keep things going. Nice job, Lars!
I too have come to the realization that what was is just that - WAS. We're in the here ‘n now - so let's maximize that aspect of what we do! CHEERS to the gang at "Our" Place, and for those who have found elsewhere to roam - RIP.
My guess is we'll be hearing from CM3 Shane on those traction book covers you provided! Thanx for keeping us on the Classic Trains theme - that IS what we're supposed to be all about ‘round here!
Noted you didn't have any <ahem> admin matters to attend to yesterday. Hmmmmmmm???? Is that because the Penthouse Suite was "active" on Sunday??? Oh yeah, the ceiling fan has a camera in it! <grin> Vito the Hit has opened a new business - VrU - Voyeurs ‘R Us! <uh oh>
Rounds appreciated!
Jan (JanOlov) at 12:12 PM Monday - Aug 13th: Slainte Mhor!
Eric (EricX2000) at 2:10 PM Monday - Aug 13th: An afternoon visit! Now THAT's cause for celebration. Ring the bell, Boris ‘n Ruth, let's have a round!
Ron (DD1) at 2:47 PM Monday - Aug 13th: The Great State of Mississippi is on board with our Southern Snake Charmer Connection! Your petrol is way higher than ours - odd, given that the Gulf if "right there." Never can figure this stuff, can we
I have a Toro Wheelhorse X something-or-other for our property. Used to have John Deere products for years. Really sorry I went to Toro, hardly the machine the Deere's are, in my not-so-humble opinion. However, I own it and it does the job.Now with the heat of the summer upon us, cutting about every other week is "it." I can handle that. But when the fall arrives and leaves begin dropping, off comes the mulcher blade, on goes the regular ‘n then it's bagging leaves for about 2 months straight of two or three times per week. <ugh>
Without getting into too much minutia, let me just say that hanging around this bar is just like frequenting one in real life. There are "things" that are done, and things that "aren't." So, when the Proprietor (that's Moi!) notices an "infraction," I break out the <tweeter>. Blowing into it emits a shrill sound, kinda like TWEEEEEEEEEET. Once heard, stand-by for the RULES INFRACTION announcement, followed by PUNISHMENT! That's about it. <uh oh>
Staying current with what's on the Pages keeps you up to snuff with the way things are done ‘round here, best advice I can give. Gotta read ‘n digest, otherwise it's a lost cause! <grin> Not really that much to remember - CLOSED on SUNDAYs - bartenders are listed at the bottom of the daily acknowledgments, and so on!
Oh yeah, wouldn't concern yourself over what's over ‘n done - you've redeemed yourself, Mate!
John Cleese is one of our favorites here at home - especially anything with a Monty Python connection. Also his work in A Fish Called Wanda - and - Fierce Creatures is simply outstanding stuff, fer sure, fer sure!
The Titfield Thunderbolt (British 1953) starring: Stanley Holloway, Naunton Wayne, John Gregson & Sidney James was featured at The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre back during the week of February 5th thru 11th, 2006!!
Catch y'all in the 'morrow!
Hi Tom and all.
A round for all for the wishes, much appreciated, and to celebrate the 28th Anniversary of OUR Place please RUTH and a very to ALLAN.
JAN That sounds a great job you have.
I wonder if that ‘Frontier Shack' bar car was saved for preservation.
Many thanks for the dram. I have not read the book you shown I'm afraid.
There is a large collection of drumheads at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay Wisconsin, perhaps they would know if anyone still makes them.
LARS For my next birthday it will be 40 years to the day that British Railways ran the last standard gauge steam train the famous 15 Guinea special. I have read that they are going to do a repeat steam special on the day over the same route. Two of the locomotives used on the 1968 trip are under overall and are hoped to take part. One of the locomotives Britannia class 70013 ‘Oliver Cromwell' has not run on the main line since the end of BR steam. The loco was the last steam loco to receive an overall by BR at Crewe Works.
Many thanks for the Norwegian photos NYC diesels and the Boston book covers.
‘Thimble', how about an employee discount on my bar tab.
RON I really is annoying when you have done a post and then it disappears, have a Glenlivet on me
Thanks for the info on the snakes; I did not know about the baby snakes being worse, certainly best to be avoided.
Certainly I think there are a few more secrets to come out of WWII. There was a documentary, a while back about, about the aircraft and rockets the German's were working on that could reach America.
As Tom says we had the Titfield Thunderbolt on at the Emporium a while back. The star of the film, the locomotive LION, was steamed in the late 1970s, early 80s and I was fortunate to get a ride behind her on the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway in Yorkshire. Yes it is hard to believe the movie is over 50 years old now, there is a great scene of the Great Western shed at Bristol at the end of the film.
Imagine the care one would have to take taking that bottle of whisky home.
ERIC It would be great to see photos of your models.
I got one your photo quizzes right.
The story of the Heavy Water plant is well known in Britain. Reading the link makes on realize just how brave the members of the Norwegian Resistance were, also from the photos how difficult a target it was to bomb. Those photos are very clear when enlarged thanks for sharing.
Yes the ex LMS class 5s are a good looking locos, they were popular with the crews as well. Introduced in 1934, a Sir William A Stanier design they were Britain's most numerous class of tender steam locomotives totaling 842 locos. They could be seen from Thurso in the very north of Scotland to Bournemouth on England's South Coast. The class lasted right to the end of BR steam, and they took part in the last BR steam train, as I mentioned in the post to Lars.
That is a good collection of motive power in today's photo.
Good to see you in this afternoon and I am very glad you visit to the Docs went well.
CM3 Love the title of the ‘snake' song.
I would never have guessed what that piece of equipment in Eric's photo was used for.
I see in the next issue of Trains Magazine there is going to be a fold-out photo of the UP heritage painted units.
I forgot to mention the L&NWR 0-6-2 Webb ‘Coal Tanks', introduced in 1882, they also worked on the lines in the South Wales coalfields deep into Great Western territory reached by the Central Wales Line, mentioned in a recent post from DL, as well as the joint GW/LNWR line through Hereford and the Welsh Marches. They lasted to the mid to late1950s and one of the class has been preserved in LNWR livery, although I don't think she is running at the moment.
TOM We had a great weekend. Despite the 100F temp we went to see the Springfield Cardinals baseball the heat was not too bad as we were in the shade and I enjoyed the match although the Cards lost 13-5. We got in time to see the start of the game but missed the elephant that wa
Evening Tom and crew! Belated Happy birthday to Pete, and an on-time one to Allan, and a belated happy 28th anniversary! I'm working at OD tonight, so I have some extra cash for a few rounds if that's OK.
Thanks for the welcoming words the other day (week?) when I last posted, 'cuz yes .. I did see them!
For now, please excuse the hasty retreat. Ya'll post so many goodies that my break time is up! Well done as usual guys! Have fun at the party!
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hmm, sorry Leon, just a short stop so give me a cup of coffee and keep the change, please!
Another hot day in the desert, 113°, and we arelooking forward to more of that kind.
Tom – Good news about Nick! Hope everything will turn out to the best!!I’ll be here Thursday afternoon. I am starting my cardiac rehab on Wednesday but I am available Thursday. No plank walk for me, please! The doctor was very satisfied with what he saw today and I’ll most likely will go back to work in about two weeks! Wednesday (tomorrow) I’ll start my rehab. So everything is just fine. The doctor said I am about two weeks ahead of time!I am looking forward to see “The Heroes of Telemark” again next month!Thanks for the Chicago & NorthWestern encore! One of my favorite railroads! One of the first models I bought was one of a C&NW F7 A+B-units. I still have it. Why did some of their name trains have “400” included in their name?Thanks for the round!CM3 – The display shot is actually from outside ABB’s plant in Elmira Heights, NY. It was taken during the National Tour with the X2000 and they placed whatever they had in the plant on display with the X2000. To the left is a light rail from Baltimore (built by ABB) and the other units/locomotives were being rebuilt by them. Lars – As I said to Tom, I’ll be here Thursday, at daytime! I’ve been involved with those other forums for a long time. Sometimes not much of interest is going on and other times I get upset over different things and can’t keep quiet. You know how it is. Thanks for the book covers! Never heard of Boston Revere Beach & Lynn. Or maybe I did last year? As a matter of fct I think i did!JanOlov – Hope you got your right hand out of the keyboard! Ron – A quick look tonight and I found a pretty bad quality drawing. I am sure you have a better one, but I’ll keep looking for more and better info.
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?diag=dd1.gif&sel=all&sz=sm&fr=Pete – I’ll try to take pictures of some of my models today, Tuesday, and show them tomorrow.Doug – Party? Where... where is the party??? It’s only 276 days to the Rendezvous!! Time flies!
Tom and all. Well as I see it, you can't beat a good banter back and forth. It's all in good fun and it keeps a tired spirit in a good mood as well. Without that, BOY! would it boring..... A wee bit slapping around never hurt anyone.
Let me pour you a wee dram fellas....
To your health!
Got a break from the 100 degree (F) temps yesterday as the cloud cover provided some relief during the morning hours. <phew> Gonna be a scorcher for the remainder of the week, "they" say. Petrol was $2.51 (rounded) at "Collusion Corner." Not to revel in this, for with Labor Day coming up, watch the prices sky-rocket! <groan>
Repeated - HELP WANTED! Okay guys, this is the time to put up or . . . Thursday I'm outta here after getting the morning ACKNOWLEDGMENTs out (maybe!). So, let's see if we can muster up some support - especially in the AFTERNOON ‘n EVENING!
Pete (pwolfe) at 5:56 PM Monday - Aug 13th: The Wolfman returneth with a fine inclusive, informative ‘n interesting Post!
Good to know that minor league baseball is continuing on with the "traditional" elephant throwing out the baseball "thing"!! I recall watching the AAA Tidewater Tides in Norfollk, VA many decades ago, and there'd always be some nonsense going on before ‘n during the game to keep the fans distracted, or was that entertained?? <grin> Anyway, always enjoyed minor league ball . . . kids were "hungry" ‘n played hard.
Good observation regarding the ARR equipment. Yes, they keep the locos ‘n cars in outstanding material condition. A little pride goes a long way, eh We're really looking forward to our return to the 49th state ‘n another "go" aboard the Denali Star.
Round appreciated - BUT - how can you continue doing this when you're on bended knee with the Manager trying to get a reduction in bar costs??? <grin>
Doug (barndad) at 8:32 PM Monday - Aug 13th: A thoughtful visit ‘n round of greetings from the Barn Weevil! Even dropped some CASH on the bar!
Eric (EricX2000) at 1:44 AM today - Aug 14th: Two weeks ahead of schedule is fine for things like getting a house built, but is it for being on the "mend" Sure hope so!!
Because you ASKED! The CNW's most famous train, the Chicago-Twin Cities 400 was introduced in 1935 to compete with the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy's Zephyrs and the Milwaukee Road's Hiawathas. This train was named because it traveled the 400 miles between the cities in 400 minutes. CNW was the first system to start a high-speed Chicago-Twin Cities schedule because it used refurbished instead of new equipment, but in 1939, modernized the 400 with new E3A diesel locomotive pairs and streamlined cars.CNW eventually renamed the first 400 to the Twin Cities 400 as the CNW stuck almost all of its passenger trains with the 400 moniker, including the Flambeau 400, Rochester 400, and the Kate Shelley 400. CNW ceased running the Twin Cities 400 in 1963, and all intercity passenger service on CNW ended with the formation of Amtrak in 1971. <from: wikipedia.com>
The CNW's most famous train, the Chicago-Twin Cities 400 was introduced in 1935 to compete with the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy's Zephyrs and the Milwaukee Road's Hiawathas. This train was named because it traveled the 400 miles between the cities in 400 minutes. CNW was the first system to start a high-speed Chicago-Twin Cities schedule because it used refurbished instead of new equipment, but in 1939, modernized the 400 with new E3A diesel locomotive pairs and streamlined cars.CNW eventually renamed the first 400 to the Twin Cities 400 as the CNW stuck almost all of its passenger trains with the 400 moniker, including the Flambeau 400, Rochester 400, and the Kate Shelley 400. CNW ceased running the Twin Cities 400 in 1963, and all intercity passenger service on CNW ended with the formation of Amtrak in 1971.
CNW eventually renamed the first 400 to the Twin Cities 400 as the CNW stuck almost all of its passenger trains with the 400 moniker, including the Flambeau 400, Rochester 400, and the Kate Shelley 400. CNW ceased running the Twin Cities 400 in 1963, and all intercity passenger service on CNW ended with the formation of Amtrak in 1971.
That's CSX on the tracks - so we know it ISN'T Sweden!?!!? Where??<grin>
Appreciate the willingness to help out on Thursday!
Jan (JanOlov) at 3:23 AM today - Aug 14th: And yet ANOTHER dram for the boyz! They say Scotch is an "acquired" taste - at the rate we're going, we'll ALL be bought - lock, stock ‘n barrel - as the saying goes!
Good to see ya!
Ruth my deAH, a mugga Joe with a jolt if you please! My, my that is an intriguing outfit you're wearing today. C'mon over on this side of the bar, wudja?!?!? <blush> Oh well, can't blame a guy for asking!
So, looks like the crittAHs are lined up waiting for feeding time. Let's get with it, Boris, then you can have that small jar of PPF over there! <grin>
An early start for me, as there are some matters requiring my time ‘n attention! Gotta get up on the roof for some shingle repair then the chimney needs a look see, then . . .
For Da Boss: Many thanks for the compliments. Really don't deserve anything special for doing my job ‘round here. All kidding aside, I figure that this bar functions on the backs of those who not only show up regularly, but contribute in discussion, pix ‘n banter. Doing all three should "earn" one the right to be called a "regular." Don't have a bunch of guys in that category, but we do have a good "core"!!
The guy who makes this place "go" is YOU. No doubt, no question, and no debate on that one! I'm just one of the supporting characters who enjoys the atmosphere of this tavern by the tracks.
Will say this though, there's no way one can participate in what we do without reading what's been posted. Can't "wing it," can't "pretend," ‘n surely "can't" phony up to the bar. Nope! A guy is either genuine or he's gone as far as I'm concerned!
Really liked that nostalgia bit you put out on the C&NW! Two fine photos to go along with those drumheads ‘n of course the ad. Nicely done, mate!
By the way, CONGRATS on reaching 7,000 posts! That's quite an accomplishment for the forums.
For Pete: So the Bar Chandler has meandered back into town, huh?? And looking for a break!! I'll give ya a break - but that's another story! <grin> Anyway, you already are getting an employee discount when we ring up your tab! <Good Grief Charlie Brown>
A weekend away does wonders sometimes. I know we've been on the go so much lately that it's actually good not leaving the house. Of course the Sarge Mrs. has shopping withdrawals from time to time, so I'm always looking for a place to hide before she maps out her next venture to spend the fortunes of the Larsman Family! <ugh> Glad you enjoyed your time away!
For Eric: I'm with Da Boss - what's the hurry? I'm not kidding! There's a reason the docs put a time limit on "things" like healing. Hope you're not letting impatience override what needs to be done. Anyway, we can't afford to lose our night owl!
For Jan: Apparently no limit to the various, assorted ‘n different brands of Scotch whisky where you are. I'm a beer kinda guy, but a dram now ‘n then surely goes down well. Then again, I do prefer a "jolt" in my coffee! <grin>
For Ron: You too have rather expensive tastes with the Scotch! I'd say you've found a partner in Jan! Also, I hear that stuff is good for snake bite treatment too!
Don't have much lawn to take care of where we are. Could do it with an old fashioned push mower, but I power up the self-propelled Craftsman now ‘n then just to keep up appearances in the neighborhood! <grin> You ‘n Da Boss must have pretty good sized lots to require work horses like you've mentioned. No thanks! <grin>
Time for some book covers for the C&NW!
Ruth, appears that we've accumulated some <ahem> some admin work - ready???
Boris, disable the alarms, disengage the cameras ‘n pad lock the stairwell!! <geesh>
CONTEST - CONTEST - CONTEST
We are approaching Page 100 on this reborn Thread of ours. So, it is time again to put forth a best-guess regarding WHEN we'll reach that marker!
So, let's PARTICIPATE in this event by providing us with the DATE (day-month) when Page 100 is reached.
That's IT!
Prize for the winner will be keys to the Penthouse Suite for any weekend in September! Also, free drinks 'n food for a week (your choice)!
Employees 'n staff ARE eligible to participate! <grin>
<In the event of a "tie," the winner will be the guy who made the 1st guesstimate!>
So, let's get 'er going!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England 4 Seasons Blend); round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Gas is at $2.7.4 this a.m., and it was approx 54 degrees when I left the house this a.m. That's a little more like it for around here this time of year.
Eric - Glad to hear that your recovery is progressing. Slow and easy does it, chief. Nice shot of the CPL signal; they're vanishing fast - problem is that it's hard to tell where it was taken as it is "generic" B&O countryside in the best sense of the word.
Lars - Boston, Revere Beach and Lynn. IIRC, some of the MBTA Blue Line either parallels or is on old BRB&L ROW. Boston Trolleys in Color - PCC's Type5s and Buses, Ph My! Rode all of them over the years. Yes Boris, I have pictures - maybe we can bring some to the rendezvous. Also thanks for the CNW book covers. Roof stuff? Remember - one hand for you, one for the ship! We did all of that last year. Go, Giants!
Pete - Thanks for the additional 0-6-2T information. Elephants throwing baseballs? Maybe he could close in Boston given the way their latest hired gun performed in his past two appearances.
Barndad stopped in - "Hi and bye!" Hope all is going well with you.
OSP - All of these pictures and comments re Scotch reminds me of the great line from Mr. Roberts, "And a drop of iodine for smoky taste."
Thanks for the CNW information. The Es and Fs were in as-delivered paint. Incidentally, the "Flambeau" soldiered on for a long time and eventually became the "Flambeau 400."
Contest - Let's see, we'll go with August 20th. Usually all I win is the keys to the spreader for when we muck out Boris's dwelling.
DD1 - Eric sent along a side view. Boris and I put our cap lights on and went back into the PRR vault. The 1925 Locomotive Cyclopedia has detailed drawings, including a numbered cutaway of the DD1s innards - it was interesting to see how everything was quartered so that it would work correctly. I had not looked at some iof this stuff in a long time. Are you familiar with Fred Westing's book, Penn Station: It's Tunnels and Side Rodders? It was published by Superior in 1978. Most of the book is a reprint of a 1912 item about the construction of Penn Station. However, there are several sections on the DD1 toward the end of the volume. Many contemporary pictures. Pp. 144 and 145 reproduce the diagrams that appear in the Cyc. Underneath the diagram on p. 145 is a Westinghouse-produced shot of a "nekkid" DD1 that shows how everything was fitted together before the body was dropped onto the frame - talk about some castings. Then comes about 10 more pictures. Of interest to you would be a pair of "down on" shots ; one taken inbound at the Bergen tunnel portal and the other near Sunnyside. They show the as built arrangement of ventilators and other apparatus on the roof of the locomotive. Of course, some of this was changed (along with the headlight) on the DD1s in later years. It's amazing how much of this came back to me. If you can't lay hold of this stuff, I can copy and send it to you. Send your address offline to Tom and he will forward it on to me as he is the keeper of that sort of stuff at my request. Hope this helps.
I'll throw in a selection of beers from my private stash as well for the 1st prize winner to enjoy, that is if Master Tom doesn't mind.... These will be found in a suitable place in the above mentioned penthouse.
Sorry for the editing, but one of the beers was mocking me.....and it still is
Just thought that I'd try another way to see if it worked.....but nooooooo! I think that I'll just go sliently and sit in this corner and sulk....
Maybe a bit of good ol' Rockabilly in my headphones will cheer me up......oh well.
In case you wonder what beer it was that messed it up, it's called Bitter ***.
Good to see CM3 Shane "in" today - and THANX for being the first to sign-up for the CONTEST!!
My, my - that's quite an impressive list of brew from Jan Olov. We'll store ‘em in the Manager's bar up in the Penthouse Suite for the winner to enjoy! Thanx!
Jan, you did everything but pick a date!!! <geesh>
CONTEST will CLOSE in a few days time. So let's get "in" on the action.
Now let's get to CLASSIC TRAINS - we've had all kinds of booze ‘n beer to dwell upon - but the idea ‘round here is TRAINS!
Sorry about that O' Enlighted One. August 25th for me please....
And to get back on to the topic for the evening.....
THE most beautiful steamlocomotive ever designed....
On the side, how many of Milwaukee Roads trestles and bridges still stand today?
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