Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, tonight I think I deserve a Rumpsteak Café de Paris! medium, please!
Another work week gone! Ten more to go! I am trying to follow the 2nd game between D-Backs and the Rockies. They are tied at 2 after 10 innings.
Tom – Snakes have always had trouble with the Rockies. No, Sweden didn’t screw up the Nobel Peace Prize, it is awarded by the Norwegians not the Swedes. All other Nobel Prices are awarded by the Swedes.
Good news from Canada! But the press release did not say anything about the heavy passenger equipment (Budd) used across Canada. Two classic British Railroads, LMS and LNER, in that ad! Do you know the name of the bridge in the first poster (Scotland)? JanOlov – You feel like in your late 20”s? Hmm, I feel like 27 myself, okay 27+, but the birth certificate says 64. Fresh outside when it is –36° C? No, it is not fresh, it’s very cooooold. But most people believe fresh = cold. Not true. Lars – I saw only half an inning last night but it sounded like they (Snakes) didn’t do anything right. A nice mix of photos and book covers! I would say the last picture shows a the kind of streamlined steam locomotives that don't look so nice in my opinion. I don’t know why, I just don’t like that design. CM3 – The picture of the Dm3 was taken by my friend Hans last year.
We had an interesting number of days back in 1990 when running the X2000 winter tests. Since it was north of the Arctic Circle we did not have much daylight at all. But we had plenty of snow and pretty cold weather. DL – Qestion for you, Sir! Check that high bridge/viaduct on the first poster (Scotland) in Tom’s post! Do you know the name of it? Pete – The Dm3 was pulling a special train. My friend Hans took the picture last year during the 150 Years Railroad Anniversary in Sweden.No, the snow did not stop us outside Kiruna. We went through it without any problems. The Di3 was built by Nohab, a Swedish locomotive manufacturer. Di3 is basically a GM diesel. Nohab built many steam and diesel locomotives that you can find all over Europe. Interesting pictures from Jamestown! I’ve never been there but it is now added to my list of places to visit! I am afraid I don’t know what movie #28 appeared in. I tried to find out but couldn’t find any info. Allan – I have to ask my sister next time I talk to her if she knows anything about venison sausages in the old country. Great for cardiac diets? So they should be great for me!A couple of pictures from the X2000's winter tests in 1990. Some of you have seen these pix before.
At the Arctic Circle.
Eric
Hi Tom and all,
Hi Leon, the usual round of Tui for the crew thanks!
Tom. Not to worry about missing Ron`s birthday date mate, one of us remembered, I have a "sticky" right in front of me with all the birth dates`, it`s much better than tying a knot in the old handkerchief! Glad you enjoyed the Napier site, they made a great job with the re-building, it is laid out in blocks like the old country which makes for easy shopping, their is a MRR shop called "Platform 1" there, in which I can spend a lot of time, depending on the BUDGET of course! Really enjoyed your nostalgia posts, the BR one brought back many happy memories I can tell you! I will have watch out if I ever get to visit the 2nd Class Saloon!
Pete. Great pics of your Railtown visit together with all the relevant info. NZ is at the moment in a deep feeling of shock and mourning over the AB`s loss to the French team, the English Ref is copping all the blame for it over here, he has even had death threats on his web page no less! I totally agree with you about losing to our French cousins, hope the game`s not like the 1991 encounter was! The old Killingworth mine line used to run about a block away from where we used to live in Wallsend, the whole area is steeped in history from the Hadrians Wall time`s on to the present day.
Eric. Enjoying all your pics and posts. Venison sausages are real tasty and fat free, great for cardiac diets, and the real venison taste prevails, first got a taste for them when we were stationed in North Germany. Great pic of Tom, Pete and Doug.
Lars. Enjoyed your usual high quality pics and posts, as you will have read the Deltic diesel loco is a favourite of mine even though my real love is living, breathing steam! We have no Domes over here, only Observation cars because of the loading gauge restrictions, enjoying all of your Dome pics!
Per. Enjoyed the pics of your layout and new Bachman 4-8-2, i`ve got the N guage model Micro decaled as SF #3743, it runs like a Swiss watch. They have nicknamed NZ "The Shakey Islands" because of us being on the edge of the Pacific Plate.
Ron. Your sons truck sounds as if you got what you wanted, since the demise of the railway over here we are seeing a big increase in semi trailers, some people call them "Juggernauts" , lots of Peterbilts, Macks, Whites, as well as Volvo`s, DAF`s, we only have motorways in 3 main centre`s here so you can imagine what it`s like out on the main highways`.
Jan. Great steam pics as usual mate, should have given you the URL for the Deltic`s, they had a sound very like a collection of very loud V8`s, this was due to their Delta cylinder layout. There is a Wikipedia page at;
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_55
I found Petes site to be very interesting about it`s evolution.
Dan. Good to see you on board for a quick visit, looking foreward to the resumption of your trip info soon.
CM3. Interesting info about those GN loco`s on your post, they had some great Baldwin steam on their roster. Thanks mate!
Fergie. Their was a news item on the box over here about your CG charting the NW passage, was your ship involved in that at all?
See ya, Allan
Hi Tom and all.
I'll have a Harvey's as well please RUTH.
RON Many thanks for that link to the KM1 model, the video is great, not only is the model very well detailed the sound and steam are very realistic.
There is a UP Centennial at the St Louis Museum of Transport, I would love to hear one running, I believe UP has one in its Heritage Fleet which is operational.
We used to have railway ghost tales at Our Place around Halloween; perhaps you could do one for us.
ERIC Thanks for the info on the Z65s.
Great photo of the Dm3, was it a special or a normal passenger train it is on.
I bet that was as far the train got on that day at Kiruna. X2000.
JAN The Di3 looks a classic design in the photo, do you know who built them. They have a North American look about them.
LARS Thanks for the drink.
Must admit when steam finished on BR in 1968, I lost some of my love for railways for a couple of years, a decision I regret that now as a lot of first generation diesels were also phased out in the late 60s early 70s. I must say steam will always be my main love but I am glad I took an interest in the diesels and electrics as well.
I was there at San Diego and relatively sober I think. Was it the Beach Boys who wanted all girls to be California Girls.
Perhaps we could have an Our Place Staff V Regulars bowling match, with the two captains you said, after we have recovered from the Darts Match.
Many thanks for the great photos and book covers from the Larsman Mobile
CM3 Thanks for the details of the GN steam locomotives.
Enjoyed reading about the long life and re-builds of GN 2020. I guess 2020 lasted to near the end of GN steam.
Looking forward to the stories of N&W 611 at the rendezvous
DL Yes that will be a good show, BR in 1957, apart from a few prototype main line diesels, it would be still all steam, that was the year the first generation diesels like the classes 20 and 31 from the Modernisation Plan were introduced.
It would be interesting to know when colour photography was first used in America. I have seen a great photo of the LMS Streamliner when it was in the USA in 1939.
TOM I am pretty sure there are some bound copies of the Railroad Magazine at the Berriger Library as well as the two first bound volumes of the (British) Railway Magazine from 1897, hopefully I shall be able to read the article about Rugby locomotive shed from that year.
It is good of Gilbert Bennett to let you share is great art with us.
We did try to get a photo of the N gauge, Honest, there is a great model of the San Diego Santa Fe station on the layout. The camera I am using now will not take a photo if it thinks there is not enough light (far brighter than I am).
That is good news from Canada I wonder what the LRC cars will be. I see there is no mention of the Renaissance cars and the mods that are supposed to happen to them as regards the Disability Act judgment.
Many thanks for the Great Britain Passenger Train Nostalgia from 1933. At home it seemed the LMS and the LNER were deadly rivals but they were partners when hoping to attract American tourists to Britain.
Great set of posters, that was a classic age for railway posters,
Greetings Tom and gentlemen....
A round for everybody please.....and a black Java for me.
$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
Da Larsman, true indeed mate. I wonder if the fight for passengers were as heated beween Chicago and the Twin Cities and Milwaukee Road, CB&Q and C&NW....
coalminer3, thanks for info mate! I have to say those 2-6-8-0's a bit weird, just like those AT&SF steamers with flexible boilers etc....no wonder they never really managed to make them work properly. If I remember correctly Mopac was one of the team as well, rebuilding 2-8-4's to 4-8-4's was it? Thinking of using old boilers for rebuilds, RDG did that on their 2-8-8-2's for 2-10-2's, right?
Tom, nice british ads going on here ... I've travelled on the West Highland Railway, stunning scenery to say the least... Have a dram on me mate..
As on a side note, my sincere apologies for messing things up....serial criminal and all that.... So if you excuse me, I'll get down to clean and polish all our brass fittings etc with my new battery and computer aided toothbrush.
Have a nice day everybody.
See you around the corner.....
G'day Gents!
In case anyone has "wondered" why Lars - CM3 Shane 'n Dan's Posts were all 'skewed' - it was because Jan edited an "old" Post, but did not provide a new one, thereby causing the Forums to display his edited selection as the most currernt. <gnashing of teeth> <again> Getting OLD guys - it ain't that hard to figger out! <geesh>
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #60
<Initially Posted on Page 225, 19 Jan 2006 on the Original Thread>
Here's something to enjoy regarding Great Britain's LONDON & NORTH EASTERN RAILWAY in a 1933 advertisement from my private collection:
BRING HISTORY TO LIFE IN ENGLAND
Visit ancient York with its 1300-year old Minster; and Durham where likes the Venerable Bede, who died as he dictated the last words of the first translation of the Bible.
Wander through the historic streets of Lincoln - headquarters of a Roman Legion during the Occupation - and Norwich, once the second city of England and still preserving many relics of medieval times.
Visit Litchfield Cathedral renowned for its three beautiful spires, and put yourself back in the Middle Ages at Warwick Castle.
See the old walls and picturesque streets of Chester. Look down from the battlements of those might castles that Edward I built at Caernarvon and Conway, and see what a task he had to conquer heroic Wales.
Every country of Great Britain speaks to you of your own ancestors. Travel through those countries by L M S and L N E R to the places you must have longed to see every since you first read a history book.
Illustrated Pamphlet from T. R. Dexter - Vice-President, Passenger Traffic, (Dept. A 34) L M S Corporation, 200 Fifth Avenue, New York City. H. J. Kitchgin, General Agent, (Dept. A 34) L N E R Railway, 11 West 42nd Street, New York City, or from your own ticket agent.
L M S LONDON MIDLAND & SCOTTISH RAILWAY OF GREAT BRITAIN LONDON & NORTH EASTERN RAILWAY OF GREAT BRITAIN L*N*E*R
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Some other advertisements:
Enjoy! Tom
Hello Tom and all in
Pint of Harvey's bitter please, let me check the menu too please. I don't want to risk any Tweeting - interesting info from Via you linked to. Good to read that.
Pete - I've checked and the title for the Rugby films on 17th is "British Railways - 50 Years ago" - which is scheduled to be shown in Newark early next year so that must be the next screening. I would imagien that will be a good selection too. Yes, I think the 1930s films will be interesting - and moving footage of that nature from that period will be rarer. Some may be in Colour but I'm not sure.
Regards
DL
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Breakfast Blend); round for the house; and $ for the jukebox. Cloudy here today with temps. In the low 40s and heavy clouds - still no rain, though.
Pete - Stopped by with inclusive comments
DD1 - A 1968 Peterbilt? Excellent!
Eric visited with comments and pictures. The DM3 looks like a working locomotive, grime and all - nice picture! The snow shot (except for the overhead) reminded me of parts of northern Maine in the winter. I well remember seeing the 6900s in their native habitat in Wyoming; looked like a building with wheels underneath.
Jan - L&N main shops were at South Louisville (KY). They are all gone now. I had several friends who worked there; one of whom later went into mining. Best source for L&N steam information is Price's book Louisville and Nashville Steam Locomotives.
Let's not forget B&O at MtClare (Baltimore) - they did a lot of work there.
Your GN question is a good one. GN bought lots of power from Baldwin over the years.
They had some 2-6-8-0s (Yes, Frostbite that was the wheel arrangement), that came from Baldwin between 1909-1910. These were r/b in the 1920s at their shops at Delta, Hillyard, Superior, and Great Falls.
Another GN r/b that comes to mind is some of their 2-6-2s. These were Baldwin engines (1907) and r/b in the 20s as well at the same shops.
Many of the GN r/bs were mechanical upgrades, boiler replacements, etc. This is not to be confused with Class repairs. This is what I could remember about GN right off; I'm sure there is more. Hope this helps a little.
Lars post hit while I was getting ready to post this - look down at the end and you'll find some more information about GN 2-8-8-0 r/bs.
OSP sent along a NYC ad which is one of my favorites. Also liked the painting of the lightning stripe E7s - used to see them on the States and other trains in Boston. Thanks! E-mail received, too.
Lars paid a visit with comments, AND pictures.
There was also heavy competition between the NYC and PRR for New York-St. Louis traffic.
The New York-Chicago market was exactly as you mentioned. Erie and Lackawanna also had NY-Chicago service (involved boat ride, of course, to get to the depot.) Lackawanna cars ran on an interline route which was NKP west of Buffalo. These two operations were thought of as "second tier" service, although they were all better than decent trains.
Washington-Chicago service was pretty much ceded to the B&O by the PRR. However, the "Liberty Limited" on the PRR was nothing to be ashamed of.
Boris, let's move to the photos that LArs provided.
My, my, look at that compound W&LE beastie. No room for anything else underneath, so let's put the pumps up front. Classy freight pilot as well.
GN 2020 brought something forward which ties back to Jan's post re r/b. Yes, Boris, for some reason, I have spent time over the years studying GN steam power.
2020 (a 2-8-8-0) BTW, had a long and involved history.
She started life as a Class N1 built by Baldwin in 1912.
In 1927 she was r/b at Superior into a class N2.
Seven years later she got a new boiler, class remained the same
Then in 1941 she was r/b into a class N3 .
She was retired in 1955 and scrapped the same year.
Many of the N1s went through two rebuilds, IIRC, but 2020 was one of the few to get a new boiler in between r/bs; maybe that's why she stuck in my memory (what's left of it).
As for 611, come to the rendezvous for some "up close and personal" stories about her. The steamboat whistle on the 611 truly brought tears to my eyes.
Work safe
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, this morning I'm ready for a double hit <jolt> in the Java! Feeling like I need a jump start ‘n it's way too early for your break! <blush> Round on me for Da Boyz - ‘n keep the change my sweet! <grin>
Boris, I see the crittAHs have all linPenthouse ed up behind their trays - so let's get with it! Awk gets the tray o' seeds - Tex gets the saucer o' brine - Frostbite the bucket o' ice cubes - Juneau the chew bone ‘n Artie the field mouse <outback PULEEEEEZE!!!> Then you can have that small jar of PPF with your name on it!
Sorry if I've confused anyone with the Larsman Mobile "stuff," as I've added photos of locomotives to the offerings! <geesh> Some guys pick up on EVERYTHING! <see above!!>
For Eric: I watched the Reptiles last night into the wee hours for my time zone (east) ‘n it was all Rockies. They could be the surprise of the playoffs ‘n actually are thus far. Just ask the Phillies fans! <yuck> <yuck>
For Jan: As an easterner with recollections of just some of the competition between railroads, I'd have to agree that the PRR ‘n NYC may have been unrivaled in the heated efforts for the passenger dollars. No other road in these parts came close. B&O had a pretty good thing going from New York City down to Washington, DC, but aside from that - it was all between the tuscan ‘n lightning stripes, especially for the Chicago market.
For Ron: Glad to see that you picked up on the posts - was wonderin' . . . Anyway, "Strawberry Fields Forever" nevAH got to me! Not a Lennon kinda guy - much to weepy ‘n wimpy for my tastes. He was awright with the Beatles, but that "Granny glasses look" ‘n the rest of it just left me coooooooooold.
Just can't imagine ANYONE getting that coooooooold feeling from looking at the diesel locomotives from the past. Yeah, the steamers had the majesty ‘n wonderment. Those monsters on the rails were indeed fascinating to watch. But when the diesels came on the scene - with the colors - with the streamlining - with the new sounds, well - I just like ‘em. HOWEVER, I'm not about to say either left me coooooooooold. Nope, I luv ‘em both!
For Pete: I think between the two of us we can put together quite a BOWLING TEAM for "Our" Place. Let's get going on it . . . way back when I THINK this was tried but nevAH got off the ground. But, we CAN DO IT!! Boris ‘n Leon could be team Captains - two teams of course. Cheerleaders could be Ruth ‘n Cindy ‘n the Gals of "Our" Place! Yeah, this could be fun . . . .
Sorry mate, but you've totally confused me with the "stuff" coming out for the Balboa Park layouts . . . were you there??? <grin> Were you sober???? Were you distracted by those southern Cal gals???? <double grin>
For Da Boss: LOVE that New York Central advertisement - ESPECIALLY THE PAINTING! That is a beauty to behold ‘n I agree with you, the artist was most gracious to permit the viewing at our bar! 5 Salute to Gilbert Bennett!
Some great news from north of our bordAH! Seems the new guys in Ottawa may have a different view ‘n approach to keeping the Via Rial passenger train operations funded. That is refreshing, given what you ‘n Rob (UTB) had shared with us ovAH the years. Yeah, good news.
Regards to any who I may have missed in this attempt to remain INCLUSIVE ‘round here! <grin>
Time again for the Larsman Mobile!
Wheeling & Lake Erie 2-6-6-2 #8004 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
The Wheeling & Lake Erie Railway - Vol 2 (book)
GN 2-8-8-2 #2020 (photo: Paul Eilenburger - wikipedia.com)
Great Northern Steam Power (book)
Special - Special - Special
Check out this URL for a most interesting Press Release from VIA Rail Canada
http://www.viarail.ca/investmentprogram/pdf/en_transport_media.pdf
Appears that things are looking UP <finally!!!>
For Jan: CHECK YOUR Email . . . need to get something squared away!!
Later!
Tom
Greetings Tom and fellow bar inhabitants....
One extra cold Guinness please.....and a top up with cigars for the lads as well if you don't mind. Here's something for yourself $$$
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.
coalminer3, did so mate. I don't know how I could forget Illinois Central's Paducah Shops.... The IC steamer had a unique look to them with those "square" sand domes... L&N you say, where did they have their company shops?
Da Larsman, there you are mate! I was almost ready to report you as M.I.A to Tom.... What you say make you think about NYC 2oth Century Limited and PRR's Broadway Limited. I don't know if anywhere else the competion between two rivals were as obvious, do you? Nice pics as well, D&H PA's and Sharks....mmmmmm!
Tom, ok mate.... You sold it to me with the NYC "Easy Does It . . . when the family goes New York Central", give one ticket for the Century please.... Awesome train art!
pwolfe, tell me about it mate. I have to see a doctor to get somekind of hokuspokusjimjamvoodoo stuff to ease off the need for a fix everyday use. I've started to ignore my daily duties, avoid work at night etc....
DD1, I know mate. I still feel like in my late 20's myself, instead for being 38. As for the Di-3, those are some nice looking and sounding machines.....
Photo: Markus Tellerup.
Credit: jarnvag.net
I never saw them in their original Green delivery....
Never seen a DDA40X, but the DM-3 are HUGE!!
EricX2000, the coldest that I ever been out working in is -36 celcius. You can with certainty say that it was feeling fresh outside...
Great pics as always mate....
How about NP, GN, SP and AT&SF? They were some BIG companies could they build their own locomotives from scratch or just limit themself to rebuilding them?
Have a nice day and take care everybody and see you around the corner....
<personal foto>
Guten Morgen allerseits!
Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!
What's to say other than it's FRIDAY! The end of a four-day work week for many . . . AND the day before Saturday! <grin>
Coffee is ready - pastries are fresh ‘n breakfasts are ready for cookin' . . . so?????
Comments from the Proprietor:
OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every Saturday in October!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Thursday - Oct 11th:
Jan (JanOlov) at 7:48 AM: Comments from CM3 Shane provide insights mentioned regarding Railroad Magazine.
Absolutely beautiful A-B-A ALCOs in SP livery! Too bad we can't depend upon our UTB - West Coast S - Dave to pick up on these things any more . . . .
Many thanx for the vist, round, ‘n cash!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:47 AM: Email received ‘n responded to - thanx!
Great inside material on the Railroad Magazine . . . . now we ALL know! Pays to be hangin' out with an Aficionado! <grin>
My hope is we'll find copies of those magazines at the Barriger National Railroad Library at Rendezvous III.
Quarters, round ‘n visit helped "make" the morning!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 11 AM: Our Manager continues to provide not only chit ‘n chat, but interesting material to view - many thanx!
Being a "diesel kinda guy" those random selections really "did it" for me! <sweet> Those D&H beauties are simply that - beautiful!
Appreciate the supporting words - but - I do feel a responsibility when it comes to things like remembering the B'days . . . shudda caught it. Oh well, at least the spittoons were cleaned PROPERLY! <ugh>
Thanx for the visit, fotos ‘n round!
Dan (DL-UK) at 11:03 AM: While we ALWAYS look forward to visits from our Resident Brit Connection - it's getting TIME for you to spend a bit more TIME with us! Otherwise, a <tweeting> just may be in order. I'm sure there's a Rules Violation "somewhere" in Da Book! <uh oh>
We do appreciate your keeping up with the flow ‘round here ‘n look forward to the next installment of your trip report.
Pete (pwolfe) at 6:07 PM: Another fine-form inclusive Post from our Mid-Missouri Brit Connection <they have invaded, ‘n we don't know it!!!>
Now waaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute. There still is an N-scale layout ‘n neither of you "could" take fotos Say whaaaaaaaaaat Good Gawd Gertie, does it ever end
That painting of the NYC streamliner is just beautiful, especially in the lightning stripe livery. One of my favorites fer sure, fer sure ‘n if we had the wall space, I'd buy it!
Very nice of Gilbert Bennett <artist> to give me authorization to use his work!
"Our" Place Bowling Team!?!?!?! Good Gawd Gertie <again> - how would Boris ever get his "fingers" into the holes?!?!?! <grin>
Round ‘n visit appreciated!
Ron (DD1) at 6:42 PM: Wondered where you've been . . . did hear some rustling ‘round back in the Rat's Patoot Room, but it was Boris ‘n Leon trying to straighten up the place. <uh oh>
Got the impression that your Post was started - stopped ‘n started again. Happens! Glad you found your way back to see the guys B'day offerings. We're just that kinda place, donchano! <grin>
That project of yours is simply an undertaking that the faint of heart need not contemplate! Good luck with it!
I've thought about a G-scale layout for part of our back yard, but dashed the idea given the awful temperature swings we are known for. I know the LGB is all weather, etc. - but I'm thinking about ME!!
Leon, I'll just have a black cup of coffee... no, wait, add a Cheese Danish, please!
A kind of quiet day here at the Bar by the siding. But the weekend is coming up!
Tom – You are right about Amtrak and you are right about the picture from the departure morning, May 20th. Nice ad! Easy on everybody! I like the picture of the eastbound 20th Century Limited! Even though it is in the middle of the winter.JanOlov – All I can say is that everything below 80° F is too cold for me. I remember winters when it was 30 below (and lower) and I hope I never have to experience that again. Thanks for the picture of the Alco PA! God looking locomotives!CM3 – Of course there must be a moose story! In a country where more than 50% of all car accidents are collisions between car and moose (or deer) there are plenty of moose stories going around! Thanks for the info on the Railroad Man’s Magazine!Lars – Hello Team mate! Don’t get upset about the left coast. We want you to be in good shape for the darts! Very good looking locomotives! Snakes lost the first game tonight! Did not play well at all. But it is best of 7 so no disaster, at least not yet.
Pete – I am sure your black bag was drying out when I took the picture. There are still a number of Class Z65 in service. I am sure a number of them have been preserved. They are very easy to operate. Ron – A cabover? I never drove a cabover. Yes, I would say a 168 Peterbilt Cabover is indeed a Classic! I hope your son will be happy with his truck!
Glad you had a good Birthday! Class Dm3 is a powerful locomotive. A picture of one pulling a passenger train below. Expert on Class D? I would not call myself an expert, but I got a pretty solid training on those locomotives and spent many, many hours and days running them. As I said before, I’ll check to see what I can find of pictures and other info on Class D and make sure that you’ll get the info. Thanks for the link to Euorailhobbies! I must say it was almost unbelievable how realistic it looked and sounded when the BR 44 moved along the track. The control of the smoke was very, very good! For JanOlov:Just outside Kiruna, Sweden. February, 1990.
For Ron:
I have seen this “Centennial” in person. UP still has one (?) that is operational.
Good day Tom and all present at the bar. Drinks on me. I'll get to the spittoon polishing soon.
Eric: A few days back, you asked about the Peterbilt my son got. It is a 1968 cabover with a Cummins diesel and 13 gears. Everything works and the body is in great shape. It has a/c and a flat sleeper. It is considered a classic. The only thing left is to get some new tires and a wet kit. The wet kit is to equip the truck with a means of tilting a dump trailer. BTW, my son informed me that same truck was used at Cape Canaveral to transport space flights to the launching pad. It appears you are the resident expert on class D engines. It's not everyday one gets the chance to converse with a real engine driver.
Fergie: I take it you do work for the Canadian navy. Correct? Have you heard of the Algonquin class frigates? I did much work on them when I was working at Mil Davie across from Quebec city in Levie. I was there as a consultant back in 1989.
Check out the following link. It is the most realistic model locomotive I have ever seen in #1 gauge.
http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/ERH/KM1.asp
Here is a better drawing of the engine project. I'm now at the start construction stage. I'm using wood from NZ (Radiata Pine).
I haven't read the posts yet as the engine project is taking much of my time, but I will and will respond as needed. Many thanks to Eric, Jan and Pete for all the information I've received on the SJ engine and to everyone else who have taken the time to post here at "Our Place".
Allan: I had some NZ mussels yesterday for lunch at a local Chinese restaurant. They serve them raw and cooked in a spicy sauce. Their squid and octopus salad is also great. Thanks for the birthday greeting.
Tom: Thanks for the birthday greeting, the drinks and the forgiveness on the spittoon duty. Man you sure run a tight ship. The railroad magazine covers were great. Funny I never heard of that magazine. I have Model Railroader and Railroad Craftsman going back to the 60's. I used to have them back to the 40's, but they were disposed of.
Per: Thanks for the birthday greeting. If anyone forgets it's my birthday, that's OK. I try to forget it myself. No need to be reminded of my non-immortality. But I think I've discovered the secret to longevity. It's good Scotch, good cigars and good friends, the kind you find at "Our Place". Thanks for your kind words re: my "big boy" story. I try to write short stories now and then when an idea comes to mind. Actually, I was helping my son with his English class assignment and the sights, sounds and smells of a steamer was his project. BTW, my son is 33 years old and going to school on the Montgomery bill. He is also the proud owner of a 1968 Peterbilt. (Additional comments above) I have worked in all scales over the years, but age has given me the advantage in the large scales. You have to be a watchmaker to work in anything smaller than HO. My wood and metal working skills can be put to good use in constructing models in 1 ½ scale. Besides, I have 8 acres of land in which to build a railroad empire. Your idea of a video of a cab forward is great. Imagine seeing it on a 52" HD flat screen with surround sound. It would blow your socks off. Oh! BTW, you made mention of Barstow, Ca. I was there once and stayed the night at a motel. You couldn't believe the continuous noise of trains rumbling through and the sound of trucks. It was unbelievable. The noise never abated for a minute. Evidentially, we didn't get a bit of sleep. Even a deaf person would not be able to sleep due to the vibrations from the trains and trucks.
Eric: Thanks for the birthday wish. I had a good get-together with family. We enjoyed good food, good drinks and good old-fashioned family fun. I thank GOD (and my wife) every day for giving me such a great family. No drugs, no criminal activity, no money, but what the hey, two out of three ain't that bad.
Jan: Thanks for the birthday greeting. As previously mentioned, I try to forget my birthday. I really can't get too excited over diesels, but the one of the Di-3 would bring me to acknowledge greatness when it is obvious.
Has anyone ever seen a UP "Centennial" Do-Do in person? That is one massive machine. How about an SJ class Dm3, 1-D+D+D-1?
CM3: Thanks for the birthday greeting. Gas is $2.53 at some stations in Ms., but diesel is still high at $2.99.
Lars: Thanks for the birthday greeting. Yes I'm old, but so is everyone around us. It's a question of who can outlive the other. I'm sure it's the Scotch that is the elixir of life. Maybe it's not, but you got to believe in something, right! BTW, John Lennon was born on the 9th of Oct also. As I stated earlier, diesels leave me cold except for ones like the ABBA set. I've been away from real trains for a long time. You just don't see many down here.
A round please RUTH to celebrate RON's
Time. I think I have put the wrong description down for yesterday's photos. The layout was the HO gauge, San Diego & Arizona Eastern. It is the Goat Canyon Trestle over the Carriso Gorge. Sorry about that folks.
ALLAN Thanks for the info on the Charltons, it must have been the Killingworth connection I was thinking of.
The Deltics were a worthy successor to the East Coast top link locomotives; they had to be special to take over from the A4s. There is a rumour about, that during the Deltic's last days a very fast speed was obtained by one on the Hull Executive train, they are probably waiting for those involved in it to retire before it comes out.
Thanks for the link to Napier.
At your club I bet Rugby is a taboo subject at the minute. I guess they would be pleased England beat the Aussies but would be shocked with the French winning over the All Blacks. The Quarter Final draw seemed mighty one sided to me with the New Zealand group being very tough. England V France Saturday. I must admit I would rather we would lose by 100 points to NZ than by 1 point to the French. It was on BBC America showing the New Zealand team arriving home, it was good to see the fans give the team a good welcome back, Rugby fans are great.
PER I doubt very much it would have been a Deltic through Maidenhead as they worked the East Coast route from London To Edinburgh, although in their last days they did work railfan specials to other places, and in preservation days they have reached places they never got too in BR days, in fact I don't think we had a production Deltic through my home town of Rugby until preservation days. For a few summers a Deltic worked a train from Birmingham to Ramsgate and back on summer Saturdays for Virgin Trains, I think the train had more railfans on it than holidaymakers.
If you could tell me the year you was in Maidenhead I should be able to tell you what diesel classes were running through there at the time.
The Deltic you probably saw was the prototype that was in the Science Museum in London, now at a museum in Shildon in the North East of England. It is painted a light blue and is very American F class looking, although it has a cab each end, there is a place for a headlight which was never used on BR. It was built in 1955 by the English Electric Company,and was first tested on the West Coast route. I can remember seeing her at Rugby, then she was used on the East Coast route, which resulted in the order of 22 prototype locos introduced in 1961. BR never owned the original.
A friend, who was a signalman, told me that one day he was at Newbold signalbox when he got the 'train entering section' code for The Red Rose London to Liverpool express, next thing he knew the blue Deltic was passing his box. He rang the signal man who had sent the train entering section code and said he had given him a short section, meaning he had sent the Code late, but he hadn't. It was just that the Deltic had such great acceleration compared to the steam and the very few other diesels that were running at the time. I dare say if the West Coast had not gone in for Electrification we may have had Deltics.
Many thanks for the great photos. 4361 looks great on the trestle.
ERIC Many thanks for the link to the DVD players; it looks very much like I shall have to invest in one.
It is great to see the Rendezvous pic again, it must be a rare photo of me as there is no black bag, it was probably drying out.
Thanks for the info on the Z65 are any still in use still, I guess some have been preserved
JAN Yes Our Place is quite addictive.
Many thanks for that great photo, of the SP Alcos
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A11815175
I have found this link which gives great info on the developement of the Deltic engine, I did not know.Bit later on when it mentions nameplates on the locomotive front.Perhaps LARS can add something about the engine's marine use before being adapted for the locomotive.
CM3 Many thanks for the very interesting information on the Railroad Magazine. Freeman Hubbard sounds quite a character.
There still seems to be a few magazines on railroads still, certainly in the UK. I really hope that they don't forsake the printed version and go for downloads on the web you can subscribe too in the future.
LARS That's an idea an Our Place Bowling team that is if we survive the upcoming darts ma
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #59
Here's something to enjoy regarding the New York Central (NYC) in a 1954 advertisement from my private collection:
<A form of this was initially Poted on Page 222 of the Original Thread on 17 Jan 2006>
NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROADThe Water Level Route
The eastbound 20th Century Limited near Breakneck Mountain, New York (Courtesy of artist: Gilbert Bennett - www.xmission.com)
Pint of Batham's mild please. Again my apols for a very quick visit (Happy Birthday Ron!) - only managed to do a quick picture scan - which I've enjoyed.
Real reason was to drop a note in for Pete - Pete - glad you enjoyed the BTF films - rather good of the British Film Institute to pick up the tab for remastering the film stock - as you may know they have released 6 vols of double DVDs of BTF films so far in UK - with another 2 vols in the planning I beleive!
Anyway - I see from my claendar of Rob Foxon screened vintage rail films that he is due to screen films at the Benn Hall in Rugby on I think 17th October in the eve (19.30 hrs?) - if I'm right in thinking you still have Rugby based mates you might want to pass that info on to them if they do not already know - the film screenings always include some BTF stuff and other vintage film of top quality - often amateur stuff. I'm going to see the screening in Newark on 18th - title LMS film Unit - which includes much film of Royal Scot tour of the USA in the 1930s plus film inside the LMS works in the 30s and no doubt other great stuff.
Regards to all
Ruth my deAH, a mugga Joe with a splash ‘n that should be it for awhile . . . treats for the crittAHs Boris, then the PPF is for YOU! Ah yes, keep the change my lovely! <blush>
Happy Birthday BELATEDLY to RON You really are OLD, huh
First off need to mention the fine background provided by CM3 I'm NOT Shane! regarding the Railroad Magazine! Nicely done Shane ‘n something many of us have been curious about. You were "right on" with the comments about how people USED to read! Yeah, I remember . . .
Of course I recall those red-white ‘n blue paint schemes for the State of Maine box cars. Came about at a time when the majority of passing freights were in "box car red" or something similarly "exciting" to watch. Colors weren't quite "in" yet . . . but there were so many railroad names!
Still paying three bucks for a gallon of "gold" at our favorite Gulf station . . . Really overcast ‘round here with thunder boomers expected. Gotta get the Mrs. to stand near the "rabbit ears"!! <grin>
Oh yeah candle pins were common round here some years back. Not sure that it still is - been "forever" since I've been bowling. Another great "sport" to enjoy a "few" at!
For Eric: Yeah, I know Vallejo has more than one railroad car - but the point was I didn't go there to look at trains. Totally different reason. Maybe one day I'll get back up there . . . but I'm seriously hope NOT to evAH return to the left coast! <arrrrrggggghhhhh. Just call it "burned out" after all these years . . .
Nice photo of Da Boyz!
For Pete: Finally some more photos from Balboa Park in San Diego! Been quite some time since I was there, but the model railroad building is one worth visiting, for sure! Tell us more about those models in the pix!!
That bridge is something else - looks like a well place two-incher <firecracker> would just about "do it"!
For Per: In 1964, President Lyndon Johnson designated October 9th as "Leif Ericsson Day" in the U.S. in recognition of Leif's arrival in North America around the year 1000 AD.
In 1964, President Lyndon Johnson designated October 9th as "Leif Ericsson Day" in the U.S. in recognition of Leif's arrival in North America around the year 1000 AD.
Don't know WHY I didn't mention it! <arrrrggghhhh> Something about the NINTH - B'day for Ron - and - Leif Ericsson's Day! Thanks for the reminder on the latter!
In reading your post I think you may have my commentary mixed with someone else's. BUT, no problem, we "roll with it" here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside! <grin>
Some great model RR shots! I'd like to see an "aerial view" of that layout one day . . .
Another great effort from you ‘n if you keep it up, YOU'LL be setting the example for the rest of us. <arrrrrgggghhhhh> I have trouble as it is doing my dailies! <grin>
For Allan: Really top shelf of you to pick up on Ron's B'day! Have one on me, mate! Also glad that things are ok where you are with reference to the earthquake of a week or so ago.
For Jan: Fine looking steamers ‘n thought provoking questions. We have more than a couple of guys who will address those points. I think that "back in the day" with the competition between the railroads being so active (especially the passenger roads) that many a board room tried to come up with new ‘n innovate ways to "top" the other guy. Surely that was why the "shrouds" came into being for the steam locos. But as I said, I'll yield to the guys who know much more about this than I.
Hey Bossman! Loved the covers for the Railroad Magazine ‘n like the fact that some dialogue came out of it too. Kinda brings us back to the way things used to be ‘round here, huh
Also, don't be too hard on yourself about missing a B'day . . . after all, the other guys had the info ‘n cudda jumped on it <as Allan did>. So it's nothing you should feel responsible about. Have one on me!
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please (something form the pastry case as it's a cool day here this a.m.); round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Gas is at $2.85 and we have had a forty degree temperature drop over a day and a half. K9 Korps loves it.
Here goes in no special order.
Happy Birthday to DD1 - and many more!
Jan stopped by - You may want to check out the Illinois Central as they are another road that built quite a bit of their own power and also r/b a lot as well. The L&N is another road you may want to add to your list to look at as well. I enjoyed the picture of the pair of SP PAs with the E7B in the middle.
Pete stopped by. Thanks for the pictures. Tehachapi is one place I have never visited - it's on the list, though.
Allan visited as well- Good to hear from you!
Per had a freight car question. The red/white/blue scheme was for "State of Maine Products" - not "Potatoes." Manufacturer's license (snargh!)
In real life, both the BAR and the New Haven had cars in that scheme. They were all over the place when I was a pup.
Models of both have been produced over the years in all scales. I have them in O, HO and N; the latest version is by Atlas in N scale (both roads, too. One of Mmy HO cars (New Haven version) sits on one of the bookcases in my office. It was made mannnny yrs ago by an outfit called New England Models - one of the best versions I have ever seen because the lettering is so hard to do. White on blue on the top third of the car side, blue on white in the middle and white on red in the middle. IIRC, the Montreal, Maine and Atlantic has some of these cars in service lettered for the MMA.
Eric - I ask and I learn. Thanks for the catenary information. I figured there had to be a moose story in there somewhere (lol).
OSP sent some pictures which raised a lot of questions among the barflies (excuse me, illustrious patrons), which I bunched together and try answer below. The 1950 cover reminded me of some of Otto Kuhler's material. Day's life span? Dare I say, sort of like the NYY pitching staff? Hmmm. The CB&Q used to clean domes at Denver on through trains - they had a car washer at the station, a mobile one, IIRC. Boris, we must drag out the flame safety lamp and see what's in the Zephyr section of the files.
All right, let's take a look at Railroad Magazine.
Back in the day, people used to read and there were a lot of magazines that provided steady employment to writers. There are all sorts of period pictures of newstands which will give you an idea of the range of titles available.
Railroad Man's Magazine was one of these. Google Railroad Man's Magazine and you can find out more about the publication's history. It was a typical "pulp" magazine of the periods with a variety of stories (real and fictional). Authors such as Harry Bedwell used to write for it. It was never like Trains, as it began in a different era and was aimed at a different readership.
In time it became known as Railroad Magazine. I subscribed to it for more than few years because it was about the only place where you could find locomotive roster information. They also had a photo exchange feature and I recall some of my ancient railroad friends talking about swapping (get this) postcard format negatives of locomotive pictures; again, another subset for further study. No, Boris, it wasn't H.W. Pontin and the Rail Photo Service. That's another story for another time.
Freeman Hubbard was the man behind the curtain at the magazine. He was truly a piece of work, and anyone who remembers him, as I do, will tell you that he marched to his own drummer. Hubbard was the author of several classic railroad titles including Railroad Avenue, and the Railroad Caboose. These are still worth reading. Later on, Railroad got picked up and folded into Railfan. Thus the title Railfan and Railroad. I can't remember which issue(s) were involved, but Railroad History had a series about railroad fiction and about Hubbard which will give you a lot more background. Hope this helps a little.
Greetings Tom and fellow members of House of Lords.....
Could I trouble you for an extra cold Guinness, top up with cigars for the lads please? Here's something for yourself....$$
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.....
RON
Tom, I really like the covers of RAILROAD Magazine . I've seen them on ebay, still do. Would you mind tell me what kind of magazine it is, beside that it's a railroad one. Is it somekind of business magazine or more like todays TRAINS? Is it a good one, I've been thinking from time to time to buy one just of curiousity.....
pwolfe, I don't really that much problems with my computer. I've more problems getting to this forum to be honest. Hopefully it'll be a while before we get another ERROR message here and have to wait to log in.... This forum "our place" has become an addiction to me....
That must be an awesome layout... As I've mentioned before, a couple of my closest friends want me to move home again so we can build a layout together. It would have flatlands of the midwest for Erie-Lackawanna which my friend Michael obsessed with, Rio Grande for my other friend Lennart and Milwaukee Road for me, which means plenty of mountain railroading . Of course we'll have our other companies as well....
Gunneral, it looks like I have to Google these Deltic diesels to see what the big deal is with them Do they sound just as good as the old and trusty GP and SD-7/9 or Alco's? riding the Tees/Tyne Pullman and the "Flying Scotsman" in the '60s, eh? What was that like? The service back then must have quite the contrast to todays, well......service?
marthastrainyard, I've had more problems getting to this forum than problems with my computer . But it doesn't hurt to keep your eyes open for other good deals, right? Great pics as always mate and I'm always looking forward to see more from you....
EricX2000, I remember winters up north *shiver*, not just a tad bit cold but also snow up to your nose. My dad used to rent Banvaktstugan i Storlien every now and then, one year he had to dig a tunnel to get to the front door, it was snow almost up to the top of the roof..... I loved that place when NSB was still running those great Di-3's there....what a sound with them on their way up the hill....
Since one of our members here have a slight obsession towards Alco's and their PA's etc, I thought that I'd post this photo as a daily "fix" to ease their addiction.....
Photographer: Unknown.....
Credit: Northeastrailfan.
Have nice day and take care fellas....and see you around the corner.
Put away the shorts ‘n break out the long sleeved sweatshirts, Fall has arrived! Best time of the year in my-not-so-humble OH-PIN-YUN!
Heading out this morning for a breakfast with a friend, but y'all can surely partake in the bill o' fare offered at "Our" Place! Freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee - pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery - along with <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts from our Menu Board!
Petrol is at $2.50 (rounded) up at "Collusion Corner" . . .
Wednesday - Oct 10th:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 8:30 AM: We also got a kick out of the reference to "Canadian Soldiers" made during that playoff game in Cleveland. Apparently those flying-ant-like insects spawned due to the unusually warm ‘n moist conditions with a life-span of about a day or so. Couldn't have happened at a more inopportune time - for the Yankees that is! <grin>
Can't help you with whatever game you were trying to play while in Merry Olde - but I'll tell ya this - DARTS in Canada (particularly St. Johns, Newfoundland) used to be MY strong suit. Made some money ‘n hardly ever had to buy the beer. Ahhhh, those were the daze! I wouldn't know a SKITTLE from a SKILLET!! <uh oh>
Many thanx for the continuing interest in keeping our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! going on Wednesdays. Enjoyed the 2nd round of Euro model trains. Trix loco is "interesting"! Marklin ‘n Fleischmann German models are sure BEASTS!
Rounds ‘n visit appreciated!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:43 AM: Actually "that" book is still on the shelf, awaiting its turn! I'm sooooooo backed up on my reading that it's pathetic - simply pathetic. My bad!
I've got Boris tuned in' to the MLB web site for the 2008 hardball sked! <uh oh>
About a zillion years ago I recall taking in a hockey game in DC . . . crowd kinda reminded me of LA in that there were just as many cheering for the opposition as for the home team. Transients ALL! Sounds like a fun time coming up for you ‘n your friend!
Hate to think of the poor Moose - but they are tough critters ‘n I've seen what happens to cars when Moose-encounters occur . . . <grim>
Used to have a Candlepin league in Staten Island when I was a kid . . . I never engaged in it, but I recall it being around. Ahhhh, the good ole daze - setting pins at 25 cents a lane. Yeah buddy - big money!
Round ‘n Herr Wurlitzer quarters most appreciated!
Jan (JanOlov) at 11:02 AM & 1:54 PM: Forum Gremlins THRIVE on devouring Posts <chomp> <chomp> <burp> Happens!
You posed some interesting thoughts regarding the steamers (nice Pix by the by!!) - anyway, I hope the guys pick up on your offering for discussion!
A mighty looking N&W loco!
Appreciate the visits, rounds ‘n cash!
Pete (pwolfe) at 5 PM: Was hoping to see more model trains fotos from SDiego ‘n you didn't disappoint! I haven't been to that museum since 1988 ‘n recall your mentioning that one must pay to enter. Don't recall that at all! I DO remember one huge N scale layout ‘n I mean huge! Your Pix bring back some memories in that the N scale was totally desert southwest . . . was this also N scale??? Nice stuff!
If those dome windows in the VIA Rail Chaleur Skyline Dome Car were to be put next to the dome glass of the Alaska RR UltraDome car you'd quickly notice the difference. You'd think the VIA Rail glass needed replacement - there's THAT much of a difference!
On one of our round trips across Canada (late spring) we had the train glass thoroughly scrubbed at our refueling stop in Jasper, Alberta. The next time we made the trip (winter) the temps were far too cold for that sort of thing . . . So, it does still happen in some places. Never, ever experienced such a thing with Amtrak - it's kinda "take what we give you." Dirty windows.
I've tried to find out what happened to the Railroad Magazine - however it's one of those most difficult combination of words to employ with a search engine. Even using the "advanced search" feature keeps going "circular." Gave up on it . . . I do know the magazine is no longer in print . . . Originally was called the Railroad Man's Magazine.
Thanx for the visit ‘n round!
Leon, I'll have a double cheese burger with curly fries! Rootbeer, Thank you.
A Very belated Happy Birthday Ron!!!
I completely missed it! Shame on me. Free drinks on me the rest of the week!!! Hope you had a very nice day.
Tom – Never experienced spotless windows with Amtrak? I am happy to say I have with the X2000. It happened a few times that they actually hand washed the entire train set in Washington D.C.!!! Including all windows! But usually it was washed in the regular “train” wash at Ivy City. I am afraid I don’t have the departure times for flights to Sweden from St. Louis. In worst case you can take the train to Chicago. Flights for Scandinavia usually leave in the late afternoon. You are right, I loved living in the forest! All the birds singing in the spring. Most evenings when I came home from work I made myself a cup of coffee, sat down on the back porch, and drank while feeling completely relaxed! Interesting magazine covers! I guess they thought it would be too expensive to have photographs on the cover. Cover #4 is from “my” year!Lars – There are more than one railroad car in Vallejo! I’ve been through there myself, but don’t remember I saw any dome cars or anything like that. Nice model pictures! I have to figure out a solution how to make room for my display! CM3 – A moose can cause a lot of damage to a locomotive/train. Usually it causes an emergency brake application, which in turn many times causes flat spots on a number of wheels. In rare cases there might be much worse damage. I have hit a number of moose with trains over the years but have been lucky with only minor damage. I was the first one to hit a moose with the X2000! Yes, it is cantilever overhead in most places in Sweden, including Flen.JanOlov – I have a few pictures from Malmbanan that I took when we run the “winter”-tests with the X2000 there in February 1990. But they do not show any nice mountain views, just a lot of snow. Quite a few good questions about steam engines built by the railroads. I am afraid I am totally out of time for any research this week. Maybe you will get some answers by other guests!Very nice pictures of those steam locomotives!Pete – If you need a DVD-player that can play any DVD, NTSC and/or PAL you will find one on this link. Just $69!! http://www.220-electronics.com/google.htmThe little red and blue locomotive is a Class Z65. It is a very small and mainly used for light switching.Thanks for the pictures from the San Diego Model Railraod Association! Very nice display. I remember those high trestles! I am sure I have them on pictures as well. Have to find them!Allan – I don’t know about the Harvey Girls and the Second Class Saloon, but the Swedish Bikini Team spend a lot of time there! I could hunt deer if I wanted to, but I like them better alive so I didn’t. Deer and, especially, moose hunting is a big thing in Sweden. I never heard of venison sausage though. Per – I am afraid I don’t know anything about the MOW car. Give me the weekend and I’ll see if I can find out what it used to be. What is going on in Fullerton every year? Vallejo and Rocklin the same day is very possible. Maybe next year when I have so much more time for myself! I don’t remember exactly how many railroad cars they have in barstow for McDonald’s and some opther businesses. I haven’t been there for several years. Nice pictures of a very nice locomotive!!. But how could you just let it pass Wylie? You should have stopped it there.
Another thing I know that you know is that Tom is driving a very nice Volvo Wagon of late model. You will get a free ride in it (right Tom?) when you show up in St. Louis next May! Here is a pictureof that nice Volvo during the 2nd Annual Rendezvous in May this year!
Come and try it!
Good Evening everybody present, and Fröhlicher Oktoberfest! Leon, please a round for everybody, some coins for the juke box, and I like a large Ayinger tonight, please. I hope you saved some of those PPF, Boris because they were all out of them today.
Let’s try another Oktoberfest drinking song:
O du lieber Augustin, Augustin, Augustin, o du lieber Augustin, alles ist hin. Geld ist weg, Mäd'l ist weg, alles weg, alles weg. O du lieber Augustin, alles ist hin.
Now that sounds much better. A lot of patrons tonight!
Today was the first cool day in Dallas in a very long time. Only 68 this morning and a high of around 86. Sunny and very dry air; it’s getting to be livable here for a little while. The price of petrol is steady at $2.619
Tom, Thank you once again for the translation. I’ll keep feeding German drinking songs during the week, then I’m afraid I will run out of them.
I’m counting the days to the Rendezvous, but there are a few “obstacles” that must be overcome before I can commit to participate. I saw in the pictures from this year’s Rendezvous that you have a Volvo so that is duly noted.
I think the next flight to Sweden just left, but there should be another one tomorrow!
You dug up a couple of magazines that I have never heard of. Was that a trade journal rather than a “hobby” magazine, like Trains is today? You sowed some very colorful and nice covers. What kind of content did that magazine have?
Eric, Yes, that diesel with my son was that year’s (2002) new engine on display in Fullerton. Amtrak comes with a bus every year, but in 2002 they had that special entertainment car that was used in Coast Starlight as well. No car this year, though (although a few private cars were open for visitors). Fullerton has become a parking spot for private cars. I guess the private tracks at LAUPT filled up.
There were a couple of comments on the engines in your Hallsberg picture, but do you know the background of the gray MOW passenger car on the left side?
I think I saw a V1 in Helsingborg back in the 50’s or early 60’s. They do look a lot like the V3.
That station in Flen is a real gem!
Looking at the map, it looks like you can do both Vallejo and Rocklin on the same day!
Jan Olov, I’m glad you liked the pics. Frankly, I don’t remember how much of the corner building has the mural on it, but it is at least two large windows wide. Apparently the whole block is a dedication to the song nowadays. I am planning to stop in Winslow on my way back to California, if for no other reason to spend a night in the old Harvey hotel there.
Great pictures! The ATSF helper across Tehachapi is great; outside braced box cars, an all. Seeing an engine in the middle of the train like that, I’m beginning to see the reason for those extra braces on the cars.
Change ISP! That’s all I can say. I had the same problem as you with my old ISP but all of that has gone away now (knock on wood). Just keep saving that work as you type along and then post it all in one fell swoop. That’ll do it.
I have no clue as to who built the best engines, but the MILW 4-8-4 would win the beauty contest if I was the judge!
Lars (Lovedomes), It turned out that Tuesday was “Leif Ericsson” day in Sweden, according to my wife who found a note in her Swedish calendar. I’m NOT holding my breath that that day will be celebrated, or even recognized, here. It’s like President Hansson, he did a few things, but none of them are recognized (although he got a US postage stamp a few years back).
I was around for a little bit during the old thread days. I agree there were much more activity back then, but hey, quality over quantity, right?
That commercial center in Rocklin, CA sounds a little bit like what they have in Barstow, but the Barstow line-up is not as ambitious as that in Rocklin. Barstow has, I think, two cars that are used as a fast food restaurant inside a tourist trap souvenir complex.
Thank you for the company background of the German MR manufacturers. It’s fun to read up a little bit about history and background of the companies you hear about. I’m amazed by the proportions of the class 05 engine. The drivers have just about the same diameter as the boiler!
Happy Belated Birthday, Ron
And have another boiled peanut on me!
Yes, the Big Boy must have been an experience! The largest engines I’ve seen, heard, and felt the presence of are the UP Challenger and the 8444 and also SP 4449. The Santa Fe 3751 in Fullerton was under steam but it didn’t move while I was there. I saw the SP and the UP race towards Cajon Pass after the LAUPT anniversary some 15 years ago. That was also a sight to remember! It makes sense that the Big Boy would have come from Cheyenne because that’s where UP keeps their on the roster steam engines. Part of the enormous steam facility is kept just for these engines. There was an article about that facility in the “Streamliner” magazine a while back.
I’m glad Eric promised you some close-up pictures of the D engine. You made a wonderful drawing, but considering the scale you are going to built it in, you need some detail shots of a few things on that machine. FIVE feet long! Wow! I have always wondered if it is easier to build a model in a large scale than in a small. At first thought it ought to be, but then I think of all those extra details that need to go on the model and I’m
From the Birthday Watch List 2007!
October 9th (Ron - 73)BOILED PEANUTS (Sept 24 - Oct 23) You have a passionate desire to help your fellow man. Unfortunately, those who know you best, your friends and loved ones, may find that your personality is much too salty, and their criticism will affect you deeply because you are really much softer than you appear. You should go right ahead and marry anybody you want to because in a certain way, yours is a charmed life. On the road of life, you can be sure that people will always pull over and stop for you.
October 9th (Ron - 73)
BOILED PEANUTS (Sept 24 - Oct 23) You have a passionate desire to help your fellow man. Unfortunately, those who know you best, your friends and loved ones, may find that your personality is much too salty, and their criticism will affect you deeply because you are really much softer than you appear. You should go right ahead and marry anybody you want to because in a certain way, yours is a charmed life. On the road of life, you can be sure that people will always pull over and stop for you.
BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO RON!
Looks like the B'day Watch List "system" broke down - so in view of your recent <tweeting> 'n punishment - consider it forgiven! I WILL CLEAN THE SPITTOONS (inside 'n out) <yuck>
Thanx to Allan (Gunneral) for NOT fogetting!
Drinks on me in honor of Ron - and - Allan!
The usual round of TUI`s for the crew please Leon.
Ron. Happy Birthday mate, HAPPY BIRTHDAY , have a good ONE. I do most of my drinking in the NZ Ex-servicemens club, very similar to your American Legion set up, we are not allowed to discuss politics or religion on the club premises so we have a very friendly atmosphere.
Tom. Enjoyed all your interesting posts and pics, great covers and great pics of your Alaska trip. We did`nt feel that shake last week, it was centered in the South Island, we do get quite a few shake`s here in Hawke`s Bay, Napier the port city 40 miles north of us was flattened by a 7.8 quake in 1931, it was totally rebuilt in Art Deco style. their is an interesting site at;
http://www.artdeconapier.com/
Hope you get some of those NZ mussel`s, Ron says he finds them at Chinese restuarants where he lives.
Pete. Still enjoying all the info and pics on your trip, great shots of the model railway at San Diego and all the other pics as well. Bobby and Jackie Charlton were born in Ashington, reputed to be the biggest "Pit" village in the world, George Stephenson was born in Wylam on the River Tyne, he worked at Killingworth mine for a while which is quite close to Ashington.
Per. Great pics of 3751, SF Northerns are my favourite steam loco, after the LNER A4 of course!
Eric. Great pic of the 2nd Class Saloon, hope some of the Harvey Girls frequent the place! Also great shots of your old home and garden, looks very much like some parts of NZ by the look of them. were you allowed to hunt the deer there? Deer hunting is BIG business over here, venison can be a lot cheaper than beef, venison sausage`s are a great favourite of mine!
Lars. Really enjoying all your book covers and steam pic posts, and the model loco`s as well!
Jan. Great steam loco pics as usual mate, keep them coming, I used to travel behind the East Coast line "Deltics" on the Tees/Tyne Pullman and the "Flying Scotsman" in the 60`s, they were very powerful machines, 3000hp, and cruised at 100mph plus!
CM3. Very interesting info on your posts mate.
Fergie. Nice to see you on board again.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
ERIC I don't know what tactics we can use to beat the Second Class Saloon ladies, I guess our only hope is that H&H get jealous.
The photo I was asking was the one you posted yesterday morning of Hallsberg Sweden in 1975.There are some good locomotives in the photo, I was wondering about the red and black one nearest the camera, it could by a loco used for track work.
It will be surprising how fast the Rendezvous will be here.
Thanks for the photo of that great station at Flen.
LARS The game you played sounds very much a version of table skittles, I must admit I played better with a good intake of beer, I think it is a vital part of the game, I had to make sure I had a pint to sup between throws. Then after the game proper there was the ‘Beer Horse" where both teams went in turn added up their scores and best out of three with the losers buying a pint for the opponents.
I felt like I had had too much ‘Activity' but without the pleasure.
Many thanks for those photos and info on the very well detailed Swiss and German models from Roco, Fleischmann, Marklin and Trix. I noticed that rather unusual 5 axle tender on the German 05 locomotive
CM3 It would interesting to know where the Candle Pins originally came from, do you think ten-pin bowling came from it.
Talking of moose damaging trains, I recall reading a while ago that a diesel locomotive in Bangladesh ran into a baby elephant, the mother elephant saw what happened and attacked the loco wrecking it.
JAN Sorry you are having problems with the computer, last couple of days I have had to start again to get a wireless connection, it says ‘no connection, then I have to switch it off then on again and it seems OK.
I think there may be a preserved Deltic on the main line again soon so it should be possible to hear one again. The Deltics are allowed on the West Highland Line they must sound great on the grades there.
Many thanks for the photos, that is a great subject to debate as to the comparisons of the different locomotive builders owned by the railroad. It will be good to hear if any of the top designers of one company were poached by another. In the UK there was a great rivalry between Derby and Crewe Works of the LMS and of course the Great Western's Swindon Works and everybody else.
TOM It is good to get some cooler weather here, I am ready for it.
As you say the windows on the Denali Star will make people want to return, along with the service on the train, really if a train contains a dome or a sightseer lounge the windows ought to be kept clean. It was very noticeable even the freight locomotives on Alaska rail were in immaculate condition, which to me shows a pride in the railroad.
We were lucky on the Chief as the windows were quite good and I think the VIA dome we had was in good condition. I wonder in the old days if they would clean the car's windows while the train was stopped at a station en-route. I guess we will never get a really clean window between St Louis and Kansas City as the I suppose the train would last have the windows cleaned in Chicago, it would interesting to know how often the cars are cleaned.
I will have a look at that DVD player thanks.
Many thanks for those great Railroad Magazine covers. I wonder when it finished being published whether it just stopped coming out or it was taken over and amalgamated into another magazine. I'm looking forward to have a read of some at the Library at The Rendezvous..
Luckily the bride has some photos of the great model railway in San Diego, especially after my feeble effort, enough for a couple of weeks
Now Arriving on Track #1
A Nickel's Worth of Classic Covers!
Number Two
(1) RR Magazine - 1952 - Destination Pittsburgh
(2) RR Magazine - 1945 - The Mighty Railway
(3) RR Magazine - 1950 - Through the Night
(4) RR Magazine - 1943 - Working on the Railroad
(5) RR Magazine - 1952 - Sea Isle
Enjoy!
Greeting young Master Tom and fellow dignitaries.....
May I trouble you for a refill please? Extra cold Guinness for me, top up with cigars for lads....thank you kindly. Here something for yourself. $$
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
I know that it's OPTIONAL TOY & MODEL TRAINS DAY! today, but I just thought that I'd try to get some yapping going here to live things up here, not that it's really necessary to do that. OK!!! WHO through that wet rag !? *dries himself*
Anyhoo, we all know that N&W.....
Reading.....
PRR....
and Milwaukee Road.....
....all had the knowledge, engineers, workforce and facilities to build their own locomotives and for Milwaukee Road thousands of freight and passenger cars.
How did their design departments, engineers, shop workers, facilities etc compare to each other? Who had that little edge above the others in machinery and quality of work and maintenance? Also, which other railroads were in the same seat that could build their own locomotives? Did they ever have a sneak peak over the competitions work and thinking....hey, I can improve on that design....
Have a nice day and take care....
See you around the corner....
Credit: northeastrailfan and toltecimages.....
and several other powerful and not very printfriendly expressions......
Here we go again..... Take two! Aaaaand ACTION!!
Greetings Tom and fellow classic trains worshippers....
First of all, you have to excuse my rather uncivilized, barbaric and savage outburst here people.... But all these cannot find server......error etc. on this website is doing me head in. Here I had made some comments to you lads and what happened when I pressed the POST button? Yep, you're right on brothers.....
DD1, I really look forward to your finished model mate.....
pwolfe, I've yet to have the pleasure to hear the sound of a Deltic diesel...
EricX2000, that is one thing that I miss as well mate. Driving for hours and see nothing but trees. You see, my dad loves to drive those narrow dirt roads....
You don't by any chance have any pics to share from Malmbanan?
Tom, have a dram on me mate!
Da Larsman, I wonder how they're gonna explain away those Viking settlements that they've found up there.... Nice pics mate, as always.
coalminer3, I won!? Yaaaayyyyy!!! Twist.....turn.....skip.....moonwalk and sliiiide....YEAH! Here's to your health, wealth and happiness gentlemen.....Cheers!
Just a wee question fellas....how many of you have had the chance to cook lunch in the firebox of a steam locomotive? I've done it a "few" times, eggs, bacon, burgers, sausages.....etc. You can't beat a good properly cooked steam locomotive steak....
Have a really nice day and take care,
Hmmmm.....let's see...right click and copy and.....POST!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Breakfast Blend); round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Let's see what's happening today.
Jan stopped by with pictures and other comments. Enlarge the picture of the ATSF helper and check out the cars; large o/b cars and 40' ones. Again, something to date the picture. Jan wind s the Bellefontaine contest - enjoy your prize, sir!
DD1 Sent an excellent post. There is a lot to be said for not having a camera as it forces one to concentrate. Please keep us posted on the 1-C-1 model.
Pete - Candlepins is largely a NE U.S. phenomenon. I recall playing lots of candlepins when I lived in that part of the world. There was also a locally produced TV show called "Candlepins for Cash" that ran on TV in Boston for years; great commercials, believe me! BTW, a near miss on Bellefontaine - nice try!!
Eric - thanks for the information on the locomotive. Incidentally, think moose and you think Bangor and Aroostook or Maine Central. Yrs back a fellow by the name of Marshall Dodge (some may remember him) produced a record of Maine-based humor titled "Bert and I." Truly good stuff. One of my favorite cuts on the album involved a fellow who won a radio contest. The prize was a trip to New York. He, of course, traveled by train (Maine Central) and encountered various misadventures along the way; one of which involved the locomotive (steam) hitting a moose. This was done with full sound effects. Anyway, the moose made out better than the locomotive which in some cases is not too far from the truth. The Flen station is beautiful - not a piece of trash or paper in sight. Is the overhead cantilever? No, Boris, I can't even say, "Cantilever catenary," let alone use it in a sentence.
Lars stopped in with sports commentary, other observations, and some fine looking model locomotives. Good to hear from you! was looking at the New York papers yesterday and it seems as though the Yankees are in their usual dysfunctional state (breaks my heart)! Go, Giants!
OSP exercising his bar owner's right, provided historical commentary. Sounds like you have been reading the book I suggested awhile back. Oh, almost forgot, I'm well into the book relay item; work cuts into leisure time, etc. IIRC, baseballs schedules usually come out in November - this year the "World's Serious," (what my neighbor calls the Fall Classic) will probably be going on. Game on, indeed! A buddy has tickets to see Washington and Vancouver play in about two weeks in D.C.
Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, a mugga Joe with a splash to begin the day for me! And a round for the house, PPF for Boris after he feeds the crittAHs - and - the change is YOURS!
Appears as if the bar returned to normal yesterday, especially during the morning hours! Had a flurry of activity - then slack 'til Pete found his way back - then doldrums 'til early morning 'n Eric arrived! Can't predict a thing 'round this joint!
For CM3 I'm NOT Shane: You didn't disappoint as the followup info on the RF&P, W&LE 'n BAR provided all kinds of insights not otherwise known to me! Appreciate it . . .
Good name for a movie!! I think the umps blew it in that "bugs game" in Cleveland the other night. The game shudda been stopped until the situation abated. They simply blew it. Apparently MLB doesn't seem to think that flinging baseballs around at 90 plus mph could possible cause injury to the distracted. Terrible, simply terrible for everyone on the field during that invasion. Heard the bugs are called "Canadian Soldiers"!! How about that, Fergie!?!?!? <grin>
For Eric: I've been to Valejo, but not for anything to do with trains. WondAH if there's anything worth seeing, aside from the "remnants" of an old passenger car Anyway, glad you liked the "blurb" . . .
For Pete: I do recall playing <or trying to!> a board game in England many, many years ago. We were in port for a few days 'n one of the local guys led us astray! Wound up in a pub or three, 'n there was this table with padded sides <???> with guys throwing some weirdly shaped thing at what looked like miniature pins <bowling> . . . anyway, AFTER getting thoroughly trounced at DARTS, I tried my luck with this game - but the only thing good about it was the fact that the more I drank, the bettAH I got! <grin>
Good to see that you're back - but you've got to come up with bettAH excuses! The sun - really!?!?! Nah - too much <ahem> "activity", huh
For Jan: Nice selection of steamers!
Yeah, this "thing" about the discovery of America has been going on for as long <and longer> than I can remember. Thought the Bossman's explanation to Ron said it all!
I don't have any hang-ups giving Chris some credit for being an explorer 'n adventurer, but we need to say he "discovered" an island in the Caribbean!
For Ron: Nice story! BettAH watch out for the <tweeter>!! You're flirting with disaster when it comes to hit 'n run posts! Da Bossman is ALWAYS on the alert for this! Just sends him into orbit - we've had to "unscrew" him from the overhead more than once!!
I think that pretty much covers the "lot"!! Have one on me, boyz! Boris, ring the bell!
So, it's WEDNESDAY once again at the Watering Hole by the Wayside - that means it's also the Optional Toy & Model Trains Day! <smoke 'em if you got 'em!> So, here's another set of EURO trains for those who appreciate such things!
Roco, based in Salzburg, Austria, is a manufacturer of model railway equipment, The company was founded in 1960 by Ing. Heinz Rössler and started with a plastic 'minitank' series. After export to the USA became successful, the model line was expanded with model trains in H0 scale and the smaller N scale.On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH. from: http://www.wikipedia.com/
Roco, based in Salzburg, Austria, is a manufacturer of model railway equipment, The company was founded in 1960 by Ing. Heinz Rössler and started with a plastic 'minitank' series. After export to the USA became successful, the model line was expanded with model trains in H0 scale and the smaller N scale.On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH.
On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH.
Roco - Switzerland - (DC) 63321 - Steam engine C5/6 of the SBB
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