"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!

[JanOlov]

Greetings Tom and fellow members of the Golden Turntable.....

Dear bartender, may I please have the usual extra cold Guinness, top up with cigars for the boys? $$$$ for yourself as well...

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....

coalminer3, I'm doing my best to hang in there mate, believe you me...

Da Larsman, cougfh....cough.....cough.....strong stuff....cough....thanks mate! You're absolutely right mate, having a boss that gives a rats a.. is half the battle....

Great looking covers mate.....!

Tom, Enjoyed the NP post

DD1, You're absolutely correct Sir, the seats doesn't flip to go with the dirrection of travel....many hours have I spent on our "doodlebugs".... going on holidays.

pwolfe, darn.... completely forgot about the S-1 class...oh well. Anyhoo, about the Russian order for the steamers. I f I remember correctly, I read somewhere that the Russian paid for the steamers in solid gold bars, and when last ship, I think, arrived to pick up the last ones, they simply unloaded the gold on to the quay....

As for the workload, end of the month tend to be a wee bit easier for us. What I'm worried abouth though, is x-mas... The holidays pretty much double our workload . Those who came up with the prohibition idea back in the '20s knew what they were doing.....

Great pics as always mate....! I really liked the street car, any chance to see some more.....? I'll buy you a drink for each one.

EricX2000, never really been a fan of double decker cars, not even Amtraks....*shiver* Like those pics mate...!

Tom, mate.... of course an apology  is needed. You and Da Larsman run a nice and tight ship here. I tend to do something to mess things up a wee bit one way or another , but I'm getting there. It's a shame we don't have a place like this in real life..... I'm sure that it would have been one  of nice place to hang out at 24/7. With fantastic people like we have here, you can't simply lose....

I always go back to my last post to see who's said what and all that before my next post. But to be honest, I've never gone all way back to the beginning of time, I'll do so this weekend to see what and who I've missed.....should be interesting I'm sure. Might be a good way to get to know people a bit more here....

Nice "girl" mate !

Until later today, a wee toast for yous...

Raises glass.....

Where'er ye bide in the world sae wide,
We wish ye a neuk on the sunny side,
Wi' muckle o' love and little o' care,
A wee bit pursie wi' siller to spare,
Yer ain wee ingle when day is spent,
In a wee bit housie wi' hearts content.

Wherever you live in the world so wide,
We wish you a nook on the sunny side,
With much love and little care,
A little purse with money to spare,
Your own little hearth when day is spent,
In a little house with hearts content.

[siberianmo]

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Guten Morgen allerseits!  

Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!

It's FRIDAY ‘n time to start the wind down for the week's end! Draw yourself a mugga Joe, a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!

 

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every October Saturday at noon!

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

 

Thursday - Oct 18^th:

 

Jan (JanOlov) at 7:54 AM: First off - NO APOLOGIES REQUIRED - just had a bit of trouble understanding what was going on. Now we all know - you are burning the candle at both ends. Relax before relapse comes to mind! <uh oh>

Suggestion to review our past Pages is for ALL, not just the newer group. Seems to be one of those bad habits encouraged by use of Forums like these to just look at what IS rather than what WAS. At the very minimum, our customers should review the Pages between their last Post ‘n the most current. Otherwise, what's the point of trying to fit in at this bar Anyway - your participation with us at the bar is appreciated VERY MUCH - next one is on me!

Top up, cash ‘n cigars always appreciated! <ka-ching> <ka-ching>

 

 

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:59 AM: I see Lars jumped all over those nicknames you dropped on us! Man must have more time on his hands these days <daze> eh <grin> Anyway, with the names I've been noticing on the tube connected to the baseball players, I'm having a hard enough time figuring out the how to pronounce ‘em - they don't need nicknames to bollix it up further! <groan> What ever happened to the simple names in life like: Joe - Mike - Bill - Jim - Tom - Pete - Shane - ooooooooooh of course I KNOW - we're into that "sea change" of cultural high tide. No further comment . . .

I KNOW I'm old, for I remember Tobin Rote! <Good Gawd Gertie!!>

You Posted this over on "my other Thread" yesterday

Good Morning:  Interesting selection of pictures.  Turbo had a lot of color schemes throughout its career.  Quiz for the day - where was the refuel and repair shop for Turbos when they ran on the NEC?

work safe

and I surely don't have the answer! <groan>

That list of NFL east titles looks impressive - and it was - but one must temper it with the reality of the day - so few teams in comparison with the glut of today. Thanx for the reminder of just how great those Browns were . . .

Apparently you haven't received your "notice" from the Mentor Village Home Defense League. Let me share the text with you:

 

Greetings!

The citizens of Can-Am County have called upon you to make arrangements to report to the Mentor Village Induction Centre and Roller Derby Rink for training in the art of riot control.

Your report date is shown on the obverse of this letter. <obverse being the reverse, but totally depends upon which side you've begun reading!>

Axes, maces and flails along with helmets, mail and shields may be drawn at the quartermaster's tent and will be permanently assigned at the conclusion of training.

This call to duty is in compliance with and under the authority of The Act, Section I, Part VII, Subsection (A), paragraph 3(e) as amended by Appendix XXVI, Part IX, Subsection (C), paragraph 17 (g).

/s/ Mortimer Snerd,

City Clerk,

Mentor Village Home Defense League, a subsidiary of the

Can-Am County Self-Defense and Pest Control Forces

Ah the lament of the baseball fan - I know the feeling oh too well . . . <groan>

Blues are looking good through their first 5 games!

Many thanx for the visit, round, quarters ‘n chat!

 

 

Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:02 AM: Our always dependable Manager stopped by with a fine rendition of Classic railway book ‘n video covers! Just looking at ‘em always brings to mind images of what it must've been like "back in the day"! Good to see the mixing of modern-day <commuter> ‘n also traction! Nicely done, Mate!

That GG1 cover really brought back a memory or three as I definitely recall that view while waiting for the train over in Joisey as a kid. Wonderous beast of a machine, eh Youbetcha!

Always appreciate the comments, Larsman Mobile visits ‘n round!

[EricX2000]

Hello Captain Tom and all present!

I know Leon, but I am not sure what time it is. A double cheese burger will be fine. Raw onion, please. Coffee!  And round for the house! I know, Tom missed it so you better tell him when he shows up.

A quick stop tonight, just long enough to have my burger. 

JanOlov –  You have a point! Those cars don’t look very nice, but they have a lot of room inside for many seats.

Tom –  I am afraid you are correct about that brunette.

It seems like  you didn’t get enough sleep last night! Too tired? That is the only explanation I can find that you missed the free round today! Check what I said to Leon yesterday morning!

Thanks for the NP Fallen Flag! Always interesting info. Yellowstone Limited, did that train ever go to Yellowstone N.P?

CM3 –  I agree about the control stand. Today everything is computerized and you have a number of screens in front of you or on the side of you. I prefer controls that looks like controls and not a video game control.

Lars –  How is your arm doing? I hope you are in good shape for next week’s darts.

Interesting books and videos! PRR is never wrong! I like the picture of the GG1!

Talking about videos, I saw a new one called “Admin work, how to get it done in a pleasant way”. There was a building in the cover picture that looked kind of familiar. Hmmm.

Ron –  Glad you made it safely through that tornado! It was a close one!

If I remember right, the biggest single order of steam locomotives was 1,000 locos big. The order was later cut back for political reasons to 500 locomotives.

You are correct, the wheel diameter is measured over the tread.

I don’t know, I don’t think the control stand look cramped. Everything necessary to operate the locomotive is there, has its place and is easy to reach.

Pete –  I prefer to have several locomotives in multiple instead of one very powerful locomotive pulling a heavy train.

The last steam locomotives built in Sweden was the 20 Class S1 tank engines built for SJ. Built 1952-53. I am afraid I don’t have any good pictures of any but here is a S1.







The streetcar in your picture was built 1947 and is actually from Philadelphia, where it was in service 1947-92. But it is painted to honor Brooklyn & Queens Transit Corporation. See link below.

http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1053/index.html

Railcar #19 was built 1919 for San Francisco’s Hetch Hetchy Railroad in Tuolumne County. It was initially used as an ambulance on rails, could travel up to 50 MPH on straight track.

Here is a link to a site with info on Railtown Collection.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=24429

 

 

Eric 

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.

ERIC I see Jan got pretty close with my quiz, I will give the answers later. I must admit I had no idea how many steam locomotives were built in Great Britain (the survey has counted GB as one although giving the totals for England, Scotland and Wales) until I read the article. I think it is great someone has done the survey; I will have to bring the magazine along to the Rendezvous.

Glad you liked the photos.

They were building a HO model of the Tehachapi Loop when we were there, it will be great to go back when it is finished, I am sure it be a great layout.

Is there a difference in the behavior of locomotives between one powerful locomotive and two or more less powerful ones in multiple, when driving them.

JAN Well done with the Quiz. According to the survey there were 3,351 steam locos built in Sweden, it said the last one was a 2-6-4 Tank engine for SJ. Yes and the record was that the order to Nohab for Russia was the largest single order placed for steam locos. Beer on me for the rest of the week.

Thanks for the kind words on the photos.

Really hope your workload gets easier soon.

CM3 Glad my mention of the yard brought back memories. I had a quick look at an old locoshed book and Rugby had 12 diesel shunters (switchers) allocated to it in 1962. This was before the lines to Peterbourgh and Leicester were closed and a lot of marshaling of trains took place. Last time I was there it was one switcher to help with the coal train for local cement works.

Thanks for the info on the Turbo Train; they must have had good bogies on the articulated cars.

I would very much like to travel on the Cass Scenic Railway behind those Shays. The bride's mother bought me a set of  5 DVDs for my birthday and on one of those is a feature on the Cass taken during the photographic specials.

That is a very impressive record for Cleveland.

LARS Many thanks for the kind words.

 I can't even begin to think when I will have worked off my bar tab after last weekend's extravagance. If I get my descriptions of my photos anymore wrong they will be offering me a job as a weatherman.

I agree about those who, as you say, MUST be viewing regularly at the bar, and surely would miss us if we weren't there, but won't say any thing.

Loved those great nicknames of the old players.

Great set of bookcovers and DVDs from the Larsman Mobile all in color too. We must give a to those old photographers who were willing to buy the color film that must have been expensive in the early days of color film.

Will this photo, of what I think is of a New York Streetcar at work in San Francisco, get me anything of that massive bar tab 

 RON Real glad you are all OK after that Tornado, a quarter mile is very close.

We were lucky I think at San Diego Model Museum, as it was a special opening day where the local residents got free admission and the layouts were working, it was quite busy.

Thanks for the congratulations on the 2,500^th post.

Yes Nohab had the largest steam locomotive order placed with them.

Many thanks for the very interesting information on the gas turbines, it seems that there is a lot of problems in using them for rail traction despite their lightweight.

TOM Great to talk to you today.

 YES got the location and the occasion in your photo.

I did have a look back at the original post at the old Our Place; it is amazing how we had so many different topics. Enjoyed reading an encore of the first Mentor Village Gazette.

I think I am right in thinking that the old Our Place as roughly the same number of views since January 1^st as the new Our Place, it would be really interesting to know if the search engines are pointing browsers there. That is a very true comment about how attitudes have changed. I met a guy who was over from England, and we got talking, he asked how long I had been here and he said England had changed, I asked in what way, and he said the main thing was how people there avoided speaking and viewed everyone with suspicion. He lived about 20 miles outside London. I wonder what the cause is

[Anonymous]

 

Good day Tom and all you gents (you know who you are). I think there has been too much drinking going on here so NO drinks on me! (Only kidding) Drinks of course and my usual. Have you got the Guggenheim Sauerkraut Band on the box? There has been a flurry of activity going around down here in Ms. A tornado passed by us at 6:00 this morning and tore up a bunch of house trailers. They were about a quarter mile from us. I slept through it, but it woke my wife who said the house shook like an earthquake.

    Pete: I've been to the San Diego model railroad museum many times in the past. I never get tired of touring it. I've never seen it operating. It's always been pretty empty. I guess they must have operating days (nights) after the museum closes for the day. Congratulations on the 2500 post. I think the record for the biggest single order of locomotives built by a Swedish builder for Russia is the answer to your quiz, but I think Jan beat me to it.

    Jan: Nice pictures of the SJ. I've gotten to appreciate foreign railroads more since I've been exposed to them here on this forum. The Y-8 looks the equivalent of our doodlebug. I notice the seatbacks don't flip facing directions as they do here on commute trains. Is that so? Thanks for the answer to the counterweight question. I came across a picture of a German steam engine that had the counterweight of the2^nd drivers out of 10 out of line by 90° to accommodate an inside cylinder arrangement. As always, fine pics of the UB-7.

    Allan: Our main vehicle is a Chevy Silverado pickup. It is the best type of vehicle to drive in these parts. I'm looking to get a micro truck, just for use on the property. There are so many 4-wheelers around here, but they are expensive and can't carry a payload. The micro trucks are 4-wheel, right hand drive and carry a ½ ton. They cost less than ½ the cost of an RV 4-wheeler and can be licensed for the road.

    Eric: Thanks for the info on the wheels. I scaled them off a drawing in a train book and was pretty close. My drivers were 6 mm too small and the wheels on axle 1 and 5 were 10.6mm too large. Am I correct in saying the diameter is measured over the tread and not the flange? The control stand in the Centennial looks kind a cramped for such a large engine.

    Tom: I feel the same way about cruise ships. The only one I would consider would be the Alaska cruise. For the most part, I fall in the middle of the pack, too old for young people and too young for old people. It looks like those clamshell doors on the turbo train would be good air brakes. Sounds like a lot went into the design of the turbo train. I wonder how big the reduction gear was. On ships, the red gear takes up a lot of room. Gas turbines really have to wind out to create hp. I wonder how an LM2500 would work in a locomotive, if it would even fit. Nice coverage on the turbo train. I wonder how the electric motors were connected for operation in tunnels via third rail? On ships, the gas turbine speed is reduced by the reduction gear to turn the propeller shafts. Additionally, there are inputs to the red gear for a diesel and on some ships, an electric motor. Some ships have all three. When an electric motor is included, it is known as a "trolling motor". Sorry for the fragmented dialogue.

    Fergie: I finally got squared away with the Canadian Coast Guard. During my research into the subject, I read where the Canadian navy was the third largest behind the U.S. and UK during WWII.

    Lars: The pic of the SP daylight #4411 looks a little weird to me. It looks like the train is listing to stbd, the tracks too. Must be an illusion or an odd camera angle. Those model engines are beautiful. Wish I could afford even one. Nice bunch of book covers.

    CM3: I know the feeling of being inside a Caravelle. It's pretty tight, even for an hours flight. I really don't care for flying at all. When I was working, I flew a lot, but now it's terra firmer (the more firm the less terror).

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Heard from Ron (DD1) down in Mississippi - said a twister touched down very close to where they are - all's okay - but rather frightening to say the least! Says he'll be back to the bar soon . . .

 Good to see the activity this morning from Jan - CM3 'n Lars!

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Time again for a Blast from the Past in the form of an "Our" Place Passenger RR Fallen Flag!

 

 

The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #26

<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 145, 24 Oct 2005 on the Original Thread>

 

 

Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads: 
 

 

 

Northern Pacific Railway (NP) 

 

 

 

 

Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.  

 

 

Northern Pacific (NP)

Headquarters: St. Paul, MN

Mileage in 1950: 6,682

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesels: 662

Rolling stock in 1950:

Freight cars: 34,200
Passenger cars: 359

 

 

Principal routes in 1950:

Minneapolis/St. Paul-Fargo, ND-Butte, MT-Tacoma, WA
Logan-Helena-Garrison, MT
Portland, OR-Sumas, WA
Minneapolis/St. Paul-Duluth, MN
Staples, MN-Ashland, WI
Little Falls-International Falls, MN
Manitoba Junction-Crookston, MN-Winnipeg, MB
Wadena, MN-Leeds, ND

 

 

Passenger trains of note:

Alaskan (Minneapolis/St. Paul-Portland via Helena)
Mainstreeter (Chicago-Helena-Seattle & Portland)
North Coast Limited (Chicago-Butte-Seattle & Portland)

 

 

Of note: CB&Q handled passenger trains between Chicago and St. Paul. SP&S handled trains between Pasco and Portland.

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Some drumheads of the NP

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enjoy!

Tom

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, you surely do have a way of brightening up my day! So just a mugga Joe - I don't need a jolt when looking at you gives me more of "that" than I can handle! <blush> A round for the house ‘n keep the change my sweet! <grin>

Boris, the crittAHs are lined up, so let's get a move on - Awk gets the tray o' seeds - Tex the saucer o' brine - Frostbite the bucket of ice cubes - Juneau the chew bone ‘n Artie the field mouse <out back PULEEEEZE!!> And of course, the small jar of PPF is for you.

A rather uneventful day on Tuesday - I mean at times if not for our Bossman, we cudda shut ‘er down ‘n I doubt anyone wudda cared. <geesh> <double geesh> Guess we can't expect much more when our "regulars" are down in number - just enough to keep things up, but hardly the interaction of days gone by. <geesh again>

Can't add anything to what Da Bossman commented on regarding our friend in Glasgow. Totally messed with my mind too! <huh??>

I see Pete provided some pix - but got a bit tangled up in mind with descriptions! Blames it on his Mrs. at that! Now that's living dangerously, huh Anyway, good to see the Wolfman back in rare form ‘n I wondered how in the world he amassed such a bar tab. He'll be working at this joint for the remainder of the year ‘n well into next just to pay it off!

As with what Cap'n Tom has commented on, it doesn't surprise me either that we've had only 1 viewer make a favorable comment about us. I suppose it's little different from any of us just scanning through a thread to see if there's anything of interest. If not, you just move along. HOWEVER, if there are those who routinely check us out several times a week (or maybe even several times a day) then I'd put them in the category described.

For Jan: I received ‘n answered your e-mail! Appears that you are pushing the envelope, mate! But we all have to do what needs to be done in order to pay the bills, huh As long as you've got a boss who gives a rat's patoot about the crew - that helps a lot!

Hang in there ‘n hope you'll be back to full form in short order! That bottle ovAH there next to the <ahem> pany hose container is for you! <wondAH how THAT got there?!?!?>

For CM3 I'm NOT Shane! Figgered it had to be WORK keeping you from us. Always something, huh A long day at the plant makes for a dull boy! But your submission says otherwise - chock full o' good "stuff" as always!

Those Euro model trains bring back some memories for me as well. I didn't have a one, but do remember seeing ‘em in the "finer" stores, especially the hobby stores I couldn't afford to shop in while "in the city." Yeah, I wondAHd what kid(s) were getting those for Christmas! Anyway, Lionel ‘n American Flyer ‘did it' for me and if I evAH get around (ROUNDTUIT) to putting up that layout - it will still be those two train sets of mine running in opposite directions!

Why you must be referring to Tobin Rote, QB for the Packers, etc. . . .

Here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobin_Rote

Night Train Lane - Richard "Dick" Lane - 1952-1953 Los Angeles Rams, 1954-1959 Chicago Cardinals, 1960-1965 Detroit Lions. (NFL)

Old Funrace Face- Tom Chorsky - Montreal Canadiens, 1989-91 - New Jersey Devils, 1991-95 - Ottawa Senators, 1995-97. (NHL)

Crazy Legs - Elroy Hirsch - LA Rams, 1949-57. (NFL)

 

 

The Larsman Mobile has arrived with something for Da Crew!

Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines - book

Pennsylvania RR Vintage Movies - DVD

New Jersey Trolleys - book

Jersey Central Lines - book

New York Central - An Insider's View - video

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Breakfast Blend, today); slide the pastry case over this way, thank you, round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  We'll play a couple of Boris's favorites this a.m., "Billy's Mule," and "The Bowery Grenadiers."  Apologies to all for not stopping by yesterday, but we began at 6:00 a.m. and finished up abt. 10:00 p.m. 

Let's see wha's happening.

Pete - I appreciated your comments about the yard - I used to stay at a place near the yard in Whitehall, NY when visiting the D&H.  Traffic patterns have changed since then but Whitehall used to be a busy place - switching cars at all hours with a variety of Alco power - wonderful!

You had a good question on the Turbo.  It got what could kindly be called "mixed reviews" from the passengers, largely because it was so cramped for space inside.  OSP's remark about airframes was well-taken in this regard.  It also smelled like a refinery sometimes because its ventilation system was not the best in the world.  That being said, they could (and did) move even though track conditions back then between Boston and New York left a lot to be desired.  Incidentally, they had a very high pitched horn, amazing Doppler if you were near a crossing when one went by at speed.

I liked the picture of Sierra 34 in the roundhouse.  It took me back, except for the Shop Vac in the corner and the plastic barrels.  Thanks.

Come to WV and see the Shays.  Look up Cass Scenic Railway on the internet and see what I mean. 

Eric visited with comments and pictures.  The control stand on the Centennial was a good one - much simpler back then compared to everything that's there now.

Lars - Thanks for the kind words (see my note to OSP below). 

When the 6-9 slots in the batting order don't do anything, the starting pitching (with 1½ exceptions is either out-of-shape or head cases), and the bullpen is being misused, well, you get the picture.  Then we do the math.  Boris, slide the abacus over here, please.  Let's see - I give up seven - then I hit three long balls with nobody on, that gives me three.  No, Boris, we don't carry two - put the barmaids down - hey, it looks like I'm still short four; hmmm...

Lovely model locomotive pictures; I remember seeing displays of those manufacturers in hobby stores (remember them?) in Boston.

Jan - Hang in there!

OSP - I would have been booted off the air for more football stuff; Gifford - never the same after the building fell on him in Philadelphia - an iconic moment  of the "old" NFL.  Pat and Kyle - good ones. 

I have an Otto Graham card somewhere.  For those who don't remember (or never knew), Cleveland won the NFL East in 1950, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 57, 64, 65, 68, and 69.  They were NFL Champions in 1950, 54, 55, and 1964. 

Quiz for the "ancient mariners" out there.  Who was the other "Rote" in the NFL? 

Last, barmaid, three fingers of the good stuff.  Gentlemen, charge your glasses.  Let's have a toast to "Night Train," "Old Furnace Face," and "Crazy Legs."  Man, they don't have nicknames like they used to, do they?

Work safe

 

P.S.  The darts tourney draws closer - why are the windows boarded up downtown?  Enquiring minds want to know.

 

[JanOlov]

Greetings Tom and gentlemen,

May I have an extra cold Guinness please? Give the lads the usual top and cigar please. $$$$ for yourself....

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....

Tom, don't worry about the "birthday" thingy's mate, nothing meant by them. Was supposed to be meaning "when do I get to party" but since they don't have any "party" smilies I used that one instead. Come to think about it, can I use smilies form others sources?

As for the email, I thought that was what you wanted me to use, the "email" button down in the left corner in every post to contact people. Isn't that the direct or private email?? Also, I'm trying to figure why I get notifications for posts done here sent to my "spam" box....even though I have changed.

As for "other requests"......I'll have to get back on that one.

You can almost say that I'm burning the candle in both ends....we're constantly short staffed at work, people being off on holiday some sick and the workload is not getting any easier.... Our...."my" nightshift manager is doing his best with what he have but also all the time trying to get people in from agencies....which is a pain in the to say the least... I have to say that our manager does a great job trying to sort things out for us, but as it seems he doesn't get anywhere .... It has come the point that, when we take time off ourself now, we can't take Monday and Tuesday night off because we're too busy those nights, so that leaves us Wednesday and Thursday nights only....which I'm off next week. I  40+ hours this last weekend so I'll probably need it too....

Besides that, we also load the trucks that deliver to the customers in the mornings as well now, so we don't leave until early morning nowadays....

So Tom, please do accept my humble and sincere apologies for being a Royal Pain In The in one way or another.....

Have a or several LARGE or drams on me mate, from my private stash of course....

I should be up to speed and all that when we start on our fourth year in "our place"...I hope.

[siberianmo]

<personal foto>

 

Guten Morgen allerseits!

Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!

Thursday - the day BEFORE Friday has arrived ‘n what better way to begin it than with us Coffee is ready - pastries are fresh - ‘n breakfasts ready to be ordered! Let's get with it, Gents!

 

 

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

There are now 127 Pages on this reborn Thread. Reborn as a result of Kalmbach closing down our original site on Jan 1^st, but permitting us to resume anew.

I invite one ‘n all to REVIEW the 126 Pages - actually GO BACK ‘n take a look at where we've been. You just can't be a customer-in-good-standing unless you KNOW what has transpired to get us where we are.

Sure, sure - the "habits' of the Forums are kind of "what have you done for me lately?" The attitude is pretty much "Everything is disposable in the Ether - here today, gone tomorrow." Well, we don't practice that here - if we did, we'd never make reference to Posts of the past nor would there be ENCORE! submissions to include repeats of fotos, etc. No, here at "Our" Place we are about CONVERSATION regarding Classic Trains with our precepts clearly outlined on PAGE ONE!

 

 

 

 

OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every October Saturday at noon!

 

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Wednesday - Oct 17^th:

Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:19 AM: Four more Euro model train fotos for our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!

I watched the BoSox game on Tuesday nite ‘n was quite surprised that they didn't go with their BEST pitcher. I mean what's the point of "saving" someone IF you never get to the point you're "saving" for Yeah, I know - that's why I'm NOT a baseball manager - just a retired sailor <of sorts>!

Look, Lars, it goes like this - the pointy end of the dart gets thrown at the target! <geesh> Having to ask Boris for advice is NOT the kind of encouragement we need at this point in the Dart's Challenge practice! <yikes>

Received your Email ‘n responded in kind - thanx!

Appreciate, as always, your visit - chat - graphics ‘n round!

 

 

Jan (JanOlov) at 11:59 AM: Okay - I'm pretty much at wits end, Mate!! Email received via the Forums ‘n responded to - BUT - WHY aren't you sending ‘em DIRECT

Also, what's with the B'day greetings Have I missed someone Or something Have you checked the contents of those cigars lately Hmmmmmm.

Do appreciate your taking the time ‘n making the effort to stop in - buy the drinks ‘n so forth. BUT what's going on - burning the candle at both ends Perhaps YOU need a weekend up in the Penthouse Suite . . . we'll see! <grin>

 

 

Pete (pwolfe) at 3:17 PM & 3:45 PM: Don't quite know what to make of this confusion you are experiencing with your fotos from Balboa Park in SDiego. Hmmmmm, didn't take NOTES, eh <uh oh> How about a brochure Hmmmmmmm, probably got "eaten" by the bag that is "attached" to you! <uh oh> So, we've narrowed it down to either HO or N! Hmmmmmm, looks like WE may have to make a trip out there to determine just what is what! Sounds good to me . . . 

There are some captivating model RR scenes, most appropriately shown on our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day - thanx!

Did notice a chap in one of your fotos <back towards camera> who had what looks like A BAG strapped to his right shoulder!!! Hmmmmmmm. <uh oh>

Mighty interesting "phenom" taking place with the Original Thread (old bar site) with those numbers of people looking in. The count grows ‘n grows ‘n when added to what we have here, I'd say we've achieved a degree of interest. I'm really not surprised that so many viewers fail to make comments. The Forums just aren't interactive - plain ‘n simple. Quite frankly, I don't think our society is interactive any longer.

I don't experience the "hello" - the "good morning" - the eye contact ‘n so forth that used to take place routinely amongst passers by. I see it with kids, it is a way of life with young adults, ‘n sadly has permeated all generations. We just don't seem to speak to one another. So why would it be different here

Surely wouldn't take the competition "lightly" in the Dart's Challenge! Tho

[JanOlov]

Greetings Tom and gentlemen......

Since I'm on my way to catch some I won't have stronger stuff. Just give me a Java please and the usual top up with cigars for the boys....$$$$ for yourself.

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.....

pwolfe, I'll guess an E class 2-8-0 in 1953, that we built 2.878 steam locomotives and the the record might be the largest ever order for steam locomotives to Russia.

Great pics as always mate !

Tom almighty, I'll deffinetely have a look at your previous 100+ pages to see what I've missed. I won't even try this pop quiz of yours, I haven't done my homework ....my dog ate it.

EricX2000, nice pic of the GO Transit train mate , I'll never get used to those "modern" square covered wagons..... *shiver* or those odd angular commuter cars....

Have a nice day lads and I'll catch you later....

 

 

[EricX2000]

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, still awake? Good. I'll have my weekly favorite, Rumpstek Café de Paris and a cold Thui!  Ohh, one more thing, make sure each guest this Thursday get a drink on me!

Let's get started before I get my food.

Tom –  Snakes? Playing? No, they just wonder what hit them in the Mile-High City.

The daughter of the Hooters brunette? No, I think I’ll pass. Copies are never like the originals.

A VIA Rail trip in the Park car observation dome sounds very interesting.

Buy a round? I am saving my money for the 3rd Annual Rendezvous next year, 210 days from now! The gas price will very likely be above $3/gallon then.

I feel that I am getting in very good shape for next week’s 2007 2nd Annual Darts Challenge Grudge Match due to all training! With that shirt (#4) I’ll be ready for whatever may happen (I hope). I feel even better after reading the two excellent reports from the Dart’s Challenge of 2006!

A Photo Quiz! Let’s see, the picture was taken at about the same time I entered this Tavern for the first time last year. Anyway, the locomotive that is approaching looks very much like something running to and from Toronto. So my guess is that the picture was taken during the 1st Annual Rendezvous in may 2006!

 

 

Union Station, Toronto 1993.

Lars –  Nice models! Roco is making very detailed models. I have quite a few of their cars.

Märklin’s model of Class 44 reminds me of when I saw one of those locomotives with a freight train in Germany in the early 70’s. Nice looking locomotive. I have a Märklin model of the French version of Class 44.

UB7X is/was a cab car for EMU X7. 2nd class seating only. That is just about all I know about UB7X. They were all retired several years ago.

Pete –  Only 2,000 steam locomotives difference on the number built in the USA between the old Railway Magazine and whoever provided the info to Wikipedia! I am surprised that those numbers were so close.

I really don’t know how many steam locomotives were built in Sweden, but I am sure Nohab was #1. I am afraid I know even less what kind of record one of the Swedish locomotive manufacturers hold. Shame on me!

With a powerful locomotive(s) and a heavy train you handle throttle and brakes very carefully.

I like the photo of the Big kid and smaller kids!

Very nice photos from San Diego Model Museum! I remember I spent a good portion of a Saturday there in the 1980’s and I am sure they have added a lot to it since then.

 

 

Eric

 

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Comments from the Proprietor:

There are now 127 Pages on this reborn Thread. Reborn as a result of Kalmbach closing down our original site on Jan 1^st, but permitting us to resume anew.

I invite one ‘n all to REVIEW the 126 Pages - actually GO BACK ‘n take a look at where we've been. You just can't be a customer-in-good-standing unless you KNOW what has transpired to get us where we are.

Sure, sure - the "habits' of the Forums are kind of "what have you done for me lately?" The attitude is pretty much "Everything is disposable in the Ether - here today, gone tomorrow." Well, we don't practice that here - if we did, we'd never make reference to Posts of the past nor would there be ENCORE! submissions to include repeats of fotos, etc. No, here at "Our" Place we are about CONVERSATION regarding Classic Trains with our precepts clearly outlined on PAGE ONE!

 

 

 

Photo Quiz:

The WHERE should be easy to guess - but the OCCASION may be a bit difficult. If you are a customer-in-good-standing, you should know both!

<of course the date on the foto is a give away!>

 

 

 

 

See y'all in the morrow!

Tom

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

This is a HOUSEKEEPING Post - made necessary because I had to "edit" an earlier submission.

So rather than have everything "skewed," putting this up gets us back on track. Get it Thought not!

Ruth, give 'em a drink on the house - Boris ring the bell!!

And Pete - next time you decide to take fotos for a trip report - TAKE NOTES! <grin>

See y'all in the morrow!!

Tom

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A Pitcher of Bathams(thats a thought) please RUTH while I still have my free beer privalidge.

Oh Dear I am totally with the San Diego Model Museum photos.I am pretty sure the first three are on the HO scale San Diego and Arizona Eastern layout.

 

I think these next three look very much like N scale although it could be HO.

Sorry about not having more info, the bride took the photos, thats my excuse. Anyway they are fantastic layouts to all those involved in the museum.

Pete.

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH and something from the pastry cabinet.

ERIC It is great about Our Place, someone asks for the info and one of the regulars is able to know and find it. For finding the angel statue.

I managed to find the old Railway Magazine with that survey in (the bride has not found my secret stash of mags in the basement yet), It is a great article well worthy of being in a magazine that has been published for 110 years now. Anyway it says there were 177,000 steam locomotives produced in the US.

 For a bit of fun Can you guess how many steam locos were built in Sweden, What was the last type of loco built there, in which year and where was Sweden in the list of countries that built steam locos, EG The United States built the most so is No1

 One of Sweden's locomotive manufactures hold another record in steam locomotive building, do you know what that is.

Also in the mag is an article on the North Briton train that ran from Leeds to Glasgow via Newcastle, that no doubt ALLAN would have seen, and a bit on the Grand Canyon Railroad which we have been talking out at the bar lately

Thanks for the congratulations on the 2,500^th post and the photo of the Centennial control stand, I wonder what is was like controlling that amount of horsepower.

Yes it is very special to tour an original locomotive shed, and the one at Jamestown has a couple of locomotives that have been there since they were built.

I wish they would advertise the tours a bit more prominently I happen to see a notice about the tour.This is one of the bride's favorite photos she took on our vacation. She has titled it "Big kid and smaller kids learn about a steam loco".

We toured the depot with a young family, the young lads were absolutly entralled touring the locomotive roundhouse seeing the engines in close up.

LARS I noticed that with the number of views we have had at the new Our Place. I see the old Our Place has over 245,000 views, although on page16 now, when I looked for an encore Saturday. We have had just ONE person call in at the bar and say, although he did not want to post, how much he appreciated the effort and how much he enjoyed what we posted.

Many thanks for the photos of those great European Models. The detail on the models nowadays compared to when I was a kid is amazing.

JAN I have yet to see a Shay, Heisler or Climax locomotive in action in the flesh, although I have seen them on DVD. I would like to hear the Railtown Shay on the steep climb on the Sierra Railroad.

Perhaps you like to have a go at the questions in my reply to Eric. 

TOM Enjoying the talk of old players between you and CM3

Fully agree with what you say about the posts and photos at the bar lately.

In many ways the Turbo train suffered the same fate as BR's APT although the Turbotrain did run a lot longer in passenger service than the APTs did which ran very few revenue-earning trips. I hope DL can give some comments on the turbo train into how it inspired the APT; there was a gas turbine experimental version of the APT before the electric APTs

I'm afraid my round buying as been curtailed by the management for a while after my generosity Saturday. The Track Gang thought it too good an opportunity to miss and turned it into an impromptu drinking contest, which put the Glasgow  ‘Swilley' to shame. To add insult to injury I had to take the full kegs and remove the empty ones from the Oktoberfest beer tent, although BORIS helped me out for an additional jar of PPFs. Also buying a round for the Burst the Wurst band to play ‘Swing Low Sweet Chariot' about 20 times was not cheap ether.

I think Allan and I have an easy draw in the Darts, Mr. Rock Pounder throws his darts that hard that he has to get his foot on the dart board for leverage to pull them out, so tires quickly.

It was great to read last years reports of the IMWWD contest, the reporter deserves many f

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Does ANYONE know what in the world Jan is referring to with his B'day greetings Beginning to wonder about this guy!

Thanx Lars for helping to keep things going this morning!!

* * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *

Yes, one week to go before we begin round two of our Annual Dart's Challenge 'n Grudge Match with The Second Class Saloon thugs guys!

Games begin THURSDAY, Oct 25th here at "Our" Place! Bring 'em on!!!

So just to get some ENTHUSIASM started for this event . . . . here are the offerings from our Ace Reporter covering the Dart's Challenge of 2006 . . .

<if you've been following these reruns - the 1st two reports were provided on Page 121, Saturday, Oct 6th . . . .>

 

 

Posted by: CM3 on 27 Oct 2006, Page 418 of the Original Thread

A Frozen Dainty

Greetings from our dugout high atop Majestic Mount Mentor where we watch the Greater Mentor Electric Telegraph Authority's wire train in action.  The line crew, between pulls on the water jug (how come it's leather?) is performing the last bit of restoration work on the trunk line to the outside world.  Boris, please put the steamer trunks back in the crypt.

The second match of the IMWWDT is in the bookies (make that books).  The Our Place folks earned the victory by superior skills and creative help from the mascots.

The pre-match parade was much more subdued, if only because the Ancient and Honorable Mentor Fusiliers were activated (first time since their campaign in the Crimea) for crowd control.  They lined the streets in full battle regalia; Brown Bess muskets at the ready.  In addition, the annual Greater Mentor Sheep Drive went through town as the parade was about ready to start.  The boys on the 3-foot gauge Mentor and Southern sure have a gift for timing.  When interviewed, the trainmaster said, "We couldn't hold them back!"  Your reporter is not sure whether he meant the sheep or the brakemen as both had been on the road for a long time.

The crowd, not being able to parade, was a bit sullen, but their morale perked up a little as they watched the pregame festivities led by the cheerleaders and the bikini drill team.

Our Place won the doubloon toss.  Your reporter noticed that they were using the "Steamed Proprietor's infamous two-headed coin.  Also, Tim (Tiny) fell for the old "Heads I win, tails you lose" opening gambit.  There's something satisfying about seeing old school stuff now and again.  No Boris, not power sweep, put the breaker panel back on the wall!

Second Class and Our Place matched each other dart for dart, drink for drink, claw hold for claw hold, body slam for body slam, well, you get the picture...Your reporter was, in fact, thinking about having to tear up the lead for this story and do a new one as it appeared we might have another tie.

We now channel Hemingway (no Boris, the author; not the trucking company). Late in the contest.  Larry up for Second Class.  He needs a double 17 to tie; anything better wins.  Larry toes the line and the crowd grows quiet.  He's about ready to throw when Awk suddenly darts forward toward the punchbowl and extracts the bowl's drain plug. The contents of the bowl gush out on the floor.  Strong women tremble and men swoon as a tidal wave of punch surges forward.  Larry is undisturbed - ready to do or die for alma mater (dear old Mentor License Plate Making and Auto Boosting Academy).  He starts to throw and the flood of punch suddenly freezes solid!   There, I'm myself again, I think - these flashbacks are wicked!  It couldn't have been the lobster; it must have been the beer.

To continue; Larry slipped, stepped over the line and fell, striking his head smartly on the left front corner of pool table #3.  His throw went wild, but Ruth, ever agile and quick (she has to be with this crew!) managed to deflect the errant dart with her bar tray.  According to the rules the throw did not count, thereby awarding the victory to Our Place.

The ensuing riot was rapidly quelled by the Fusiliers who formed into hollow squares and fired over the heads of the rioters.

Your reporter slipped out the back door and found the entrance to the Our Place building's sub basement.  There he found Frostbite seated at the controls of a monstrous ice making machine.  It turns out that the MHL (Mentor Hockey League) is getting ready for their season and they will be using Our Place for practice.  Frostbite was downstairs testing the equipment when Awk unplugged the punchbowl.  I asked Frostbite if he had planned this.  All he did was give me a sly look and hold up a Pittsburgh Penguins sweater. 

One more to go.  Our Place takes the upcoming match; they win it all - if not, it's a three way tie.  Somehow, I don't think that Vito and the boys are going to let it happen.

Well, back to our studios high atop Majestic Mount Mentor courtesy of the Greater Mentor Sedan Chair and Portajohn Company, LLC.  Say good night Frostbite!

 

- AND -

 

Posted by: CM3 on 30 Oct 2006, P

[JanOlov]

Greetings Tom and gentlemen,

May I please have some strong black please? Give the boys a top up with cigars too if you don't mind....

$$$$ for yourself....

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.....

Tom, that's ome impressive reading about the Turbo train . It'll be hard to top this one...

Da Larsman, never liked maths in school, always loved history and geography....maybe that'll explain it...

Interim Chief Chef AND sole member of the "Our" Place Srubba-dub-dub cleaning crew......??? But when am I gonna get a chnace to or ....? Oh dear!

Nice pics, covers AND models....!

pwolfe, I'll see what I can find about the UB7X. Otherwise maybe Eric might be able to give some inside info about it....

Great pics of #28 and #34 .... I like the Shay, Heisler and the Climax. Logging railroads are interesting stuff...

EricX2000, that's the one!! Thanks for the link as well! Have a round on me.... That's quite a few isn't it?

Sorry for the short post, but I'm just up after a few on the couch....head feels like a sack of tatties....

Have a nice day everyone and take care....

 

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, a number three from the menu board, a mugga hot coffee with a jolt, treats for the crittAHs, PPF for Boris, a round for the house ‘n the change is for YOU!

A most entertaining two-parter from Da Bossman on the Turbo Train! Kinda reminded me of the "old days" when we'd have our Tuesday theme for the day . . . most of the guys would try to come up with something to keep the "theme" going. Well that was then . . .

Nice work Cap'n Tom! It's a heck of a lot more work than probably many realize, for I know you just don't take the "stuff" from one site ‘n put it here. There's all kinds of work. Just do a "right" click on the photos, go to "properties" ‘n you will see that every image used has been transferred to photo bucket - which took effort. Yeah, there's work to doing this kinda "stuff." 5 salute to the guy who keeps this bar active ‘n interesting!

Just kinda ticks me off to think of how many "looking in" don't give a thought to the effort someone puts in to providing interesting subjects on classic trains. Nope - just zipping through the sites without so much as a thought to being appreciative. <arrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh> The times we live in will do me in! <arrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh>

For CM3 I'm NOT Shane! So what's the deal with the baseball playoffs?!?!? First we thought it was a "sure thing" that the Mets ‘n Red Sox would be in the World Series. That didn't work as the Mets didn't even get to the playoffs! Then it was the Reptiles ‘n Red Sox in the WS. That didn't work as the Rockies had other thoughts. Then it was the Rockies ‘n Red Sox in the WS and THAT doesn't appear to be the case as the Indians have other ideas!

Sox from Beantown had a power surge in one inning last night - 3 homers in a row - but that wasn't nearly enough to overcome the deficit of the previous inning. Indians lookin' motivated . . .

Those names from Jints teams of "back in the day" brought a smile . . . Da Bossman added a few others!

For Jan - Fergie - Pete ‘n Eric: Good to see youse guyz!

Nice steamers, Wolfman!!

Darts Tournament: I see we're all set for the Part II of our Dart's Grudge Match with the goons from the 2^nd Class Saloon. As Da Bossman sez, "BRING ‘EM ON!!" Hey Boris! Do you throw the feathered end at the bull's eye <uh oh>

Another fine Post from our Proprietor!

 

 

Time for my contribution to our optional toy & model trains day . . . .

Roco, based in Salzburg, Austria, is a manufacturer of model railway equipment, The company was founded in 1960 by Ing. Heinz Rössler and started with a plastic 'minitank' series. After export to the USA became successful, the model line was expanded with model trains in H0 scale and the smaller N scale.

On July 15, 2005 ROCO Modellspielwaren GmbH was declared bankrupt. From July 25 the company continues as Modelleisenbahn GmbH.

from: http://www.wikipedia.com/

Roco - Czech - (DC) 62221 - Steam locomotive Rh 534.1

[siberianmo]

2007 2^nd Annual Darts Challenge ‘n Grudge Match!

 

 

When

Thursday - Friday ‘n Saturday nites, October 25^th thru 27^th, 2007!

Where

Match #1 at "Our" Place - Oct 25^th - Match #2 at The Second Class Saloon - Oct 26^th - Match #3 at "Our" Place - Oct 27^th.

Note: Match #3 WILL BE PLAYED regardless of either team having a 2-zip advantage!

 

 

"Our" Place Teams:

#1 The UK Connection of: What'd he say? - Pete (pwolfe) ‘n Kiwi's are Down Under - Allan (Gunneral)

#2 The Norsemen Duo of: I'm Oaring the Boat! - Lars (LoveDomes) ‘n Deserts are for Swedes! - Eric (EricX2000).

Alternate - Jan (JanOlov) Our Resident Swede in Scotland!

Ace Reporter: CM3 Shane - From high atop Mt. Mentor, we'll be treated once again to some fine reporting of the events as they unfold!

Cheerleading provided by Cindy 'n her Our Ladies of Perpetual Motion Social Club 'n Knitting Circle!

 

The Second Class Saloon Teams:

#1 Mo Lester (aka: Eunuch maker) ‘n Rock Pounder (aka: I got stones!)

#2 Lance Butts (aka: Watch your back!) ‘n Doug Graves (aka: Last stop!)

Alternate: Mountain Man Mike (Moose) - Proprietor of The Second Class Saloon

 

 

Shirts:

Pete - Shirt #1 -

Allan - Shirt #2 -

Lars - Shirt #3 -

Eric - Shirt #4 -

Jan - Shirt #5 -

As with last year, the "Our" Place teams will be provided with DESIGNER leather apparel (pants ‘n foot wear) to compliment the SHIRTS! Boris will help you with the sizing . . . . <uh oh>

 

 

Bring 'em on!

Tom

[siberianmo]

<personal foto>

 

Wednesday's Witticism

A man can learn a heap of things if he keeps his ears washed.

 

Guten Morgen allerseits!

Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!

Mid-week in mid-continent USA where petrol remains at $2.48 (rounded) ‘n the days have been comfortable with the evenings ‘n mornings even better!

Time again for a<light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n a mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee!

 

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

 

Today is our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! <smoke ‘em if you got ‘em!!>

 

OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every October Saturday at noon!

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Tuesday - Oct 16^th:

Jan (JanOlov) at 7:49 AM: Fine looking fotos - thought provoking questions. We'll see if you get any "bites."

Appreciate your business <ka-ching> <ka-ching>

 

 

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 8:08 AM: All kinds of commentary ‘n inserts from our Maritime Canada Canadian Mariner Connection! <grin>

Are Salmon still being fished Hmmmmmmm.

Hope to see something more from your fine model RR today!!

Good to see ya - ‘n still waiting for that ROUND!!!!

 

 

Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:37 AM: Had no idea that your Post would be "it" ‘til 3 PM! Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill strikes again! <geesh> Had a most active beginning to the day, then the doldrums set in. <groan>

For anyone who gives a Rat's Patoot - the 3^rd Year Anniversary of "Our" Place is April 12^th, 2008!

Six Mix from the Larsman Mobile - all fine selections of covers ‘n steamers! <sweet>

Thanx for the visit, round ‘n chat!

 

 

CM3 Shane at 3 PM: Better late than never, eh Youbetcha! Good to see ya ‘n figured it was ‘something like work' keeping you away from the Tavern by the Tracks!

Man oh man, you rattled off some names that brought back many, many memories of sitting in the end zone at the Polo Grounds on a Sunday afternoon - later on Yankee Stadium. I definitely remember all of those guys and Charlie Connerly was the "toast of the town" - yeah! Frank Gifford, Pat Summerall ‘n Kyle Rote - can't forget all of those guys either! BUT through it all, MY team was the Cleveland Browns under the guidance of Otto Graham!

Trying to use a form of an airframe as a passenger railroad car ain't the best practice. Sometimes the things that look good, aren't . . .

I haven't been surprised at the success of the Indians - just a bit taken aback by what the BoSox aren't doing. It's an understatement to say that theirs an uphill climb at this point . . . BUT the question is: Are these the same BoSox who stormed back to beat the Yankees four straight then do the same in the series against my Cardinals We'll know on Thursday if there's a chance . . .

Hard to believe, but NEXT WEEK is the 2^nd Annual Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match! Better ensure the quill pen is at the ready along with a couple of full ink wells! <grin>

Thanx for the visit, round ‘n quarters!

 

 

Pete (pwolfe) at 4:46 PM: Not certain, but I'm beginning to think that the "count" for Posts gets enhanced even when guys make "edits." I've been trying to keep track, but unless one is constantly at the bar, well it's next to impossible to do. And yes, I concur about the quality of material being provided.

We've had a good run of give ‘n take, all kinds of things to comment on ‘n of course lots of great fotos.

Thankfully, this latest ‘down time' by Kalmbach had nothing to do with revising formats ‘n so forth. Just routine maintenance as I understand it . . . still confused about why they didn't provide some notice beforehand.

Funny how things turn out with technology. "Back in the day" the TurboTrain came on scene - however, it had many shortcomings. Given today's know-how <aka: technology> I'd say the train could've been a huge winner using what we "know" now - but alas, not to be. So the TurboTrain died on the vine ‘n remains only in the mind's eye of those who traveled ‘em. Fortunately for us, we have some great insights from our WVA Connection!

Some interesting fotos ‘n appreciate the effort to entertain us with ‘em!

[EricX2000]

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Hi Leon! I think a Patty Melt would be just perfect! 

Time to sit down and see what happened here at "Our" Place this nice Tuesday.

Tom –  All future Rendezvous in St. Louis? Hmmm, then you better find the brunette from Hooters! I am glad to hear that you have “shore ties” enough at CanAm Union Station in case that would happen and more cars are arriving.

I have seen the program about building the Al-Can Highway on the History Channel a few times. Very interesting! I have been “planning” that trip for more than 20 years now.

You never know when you will need that rotary! Considering all the extreme weather nowadays you might need it next week.

Thanks for a very interesting articles on the TurboTrain! I did not know it had tilting cars even though the tilting isn't active. More like the Spanish Talgo. As I said (wrote) yesterday, it looks like a submarine on land.

JanOlov –  The angel statue with a dead soldier, are you thinking of 30th Street Station in Philadelphia? See picture on link below.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moocat/254468897/

Looking for something else I found that there was 70 Railroad Company-Shop Builders building 13,000 steam locomotives in the USA 1831-1950.

Fergie –  Glad to hear that those flying pigs mostly travel on the ground! 10,000’ up there could be a problem and even more so at 30,000’. That is the altitude I am  usually traveling at over your (and the pigs) part of the world, going to and from the old country.

Lars –  Baking in the sun? No, I don’t do those kind of things. But I like the warm weather, Saturday it is supposed to get up to 96° or higher.

Three interesting pictures mixed with book covers and videos! I wish I had a picture of a Big Boy in operation! Static displays are okay, but nothing beats working locomotives! Thanks!

CM3 –  I like that statement, “You know you are old when you’re a historical resource!” So true!

I thought for a little while that the Snakes were going to come back in the game Monday night, but no.

Pete –  Congratulations to the 2,500th post!!

No, the Centennial has never been in this area as far as I know. With only one left I don’t think it is likely it ever will come this way.

The Control stand in a Centennial.


I found some info on how many steam locomotives that was built in the USA 1831 - 1950, 175,000!  See link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_locomotive_production

Interesting pictures from Railtown!! In a way it is nicer to see the locomotives in a shed like that than inside a fancy, super clean, building. The locomotives in your pictures look like they will be back in service soon!

 

 

Eric 

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and a snack from the cabinet please RUTH.

ALLAN I would not have thought that those in NZ would have preferred a French win, I think those in England would not have minded an AB win if we had not reached the final.

I could not get the semi-final match live, on the Internet even tried Radio NZ but they did not have it on.

It was probably the sound of the shunting in the yards at Rugby, that went on 24/7, all steam at the house I first lived at that gave me my love of railways. The house, which was my grandfather's, was a couple of houses away from the yards.

It is sad to think of how many railways that served coal mines, power stations and large manufacturers etc, that was around in 1950s and 60s are now just a memory. The factory I worked at had a large internal railway system, which lasted to the 1980s; it had been worked by diesels for quite a few years before I was there.

There is a good scene of Durham Viaduct in the BTF film of The Elizabethan I got on DVD recently.

Glad you enjoyed the photos.

Keep safe from those quakes.

ERIC Does the UP ‘Centennial' do much work in your area. When the UP heritage cars visited here on a rail safety visit I was hoping it would be one of the heritage diesels hauling it but it was just two normal road units.

Just think how many steam locos there were in the UK during the hayday of railways.

In the Railway Magazine recently there was an article in which some researchers have tried to find out how many steam locomotives were constructed worldwide. I will have to find it.

JAN Glad you liked the link.

The UB7X looks an interesting unit have you any more info on it.

I seem to recall seeing a photo of that statue in your question 2, but I cannot remember where. No doubt one of the regulars will know.

LARS Many thanks for the congratulations; it does indeed seem only yesterday that Jan posted the 2,400^th post.

You are right there is something special about a steam locomotive when it is moving. Listening to the radio commentary on the Shrewsbury soccer match on Saturday, the crowd gave out a loud cheer, the commentator said it was for a steam special passing the ground, even folks not at all interested in railways love to see them

Great book covers and photos. Imagine a day watching the Big-Boys climbing Sherman Hill with heavy freight trains, and the feeling of excitement when taking a new class of locomotive, like the SP Daylight out on its first trail run, seeing what it could do.

Thanks for sharing.

CM3 Do you think the passengers thought about the Turbos compared to the traditional trains.    

TOM I had not realized that I had reached the 2,500^th milestone,2,500, posts  is a great achievement for the bar, especially as the posts at the bar are still of such great quality. To all.

The only thing I was a bit worried about the site ‘maintenance', apart from missing Lars and you, was that it would change the format of the site (again).

Many railfans in the UK consider the ‘Westerns' to be the best looking diesels than ran in the UK; they certainly had style to them. I suppose they were the last locomotives that were purely of Great Western/ Western Region origin.

Very interesting ‘Back in the Day' on the Turbo Train Parts I and II. Another great attempt at making a turbine the prime mover for rail transport. The engines seem remarkably lightweight at 300 pounds for 400HP. I see the turbo ran in service in Canada for nine years, which is a lot better than some other novel designs, and it says a lot that the designs innovations used on the Turbo are now in use on High Speeds Trains today, like the TGV. I suppose at time it they introduced; it was a hard time for passenger travel on the railroads

Thanks for sharing.

Some more photos from  Railtown 1897 at Jamestown. If you ever go there I&nbs

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon Barkeep and all present; coffee, please; round for the house; $ for the jukebox.  Have been in computer class all day so I am running late.  Boris had to turn me upside down to empty out some of the "old knowledge" so I could fit "new Knowledge" in.  Sorta like Jethro going to "Ox-ford."

Interesting maritime discussions today.  "If you're going to talk like sailors, you're going to work like sailors."  One of my all-time favorite lines from Spongebob.

DD1 stopped by with lots of comments.

Also good to hear from Jan, Fergie, and Allan.

Pete and Dl visited with information as well.

Eric - The Red Sox-Indians game last night was a study in psychology.  See my note to Lars below.  Condolences to the Snakes, but when you get a team like Colorado on a hot streak, it's awful hard to stop ‘em, let alone slow ‘em down.

Lars sent along all sorts of reading materials and observations.  I have no problem with people not being Red Sox fans, but both of us are Giants fans - any Knick left that hasn't eaten its way through the cans? 

We'll hoist a couple to Y.A. and Charlie Conerly, and maybe an extra for Roosevelt Brown, and for Big Sam.  Awhile back my youngest did a report on Sam Huff for WV History class; she asked me if I remembered him - I was good for about an hour of stories - you know you're getting old when you're an historical resource.   

I got a kick out of what Old Eli said, "We'd like to see Plaxico at practice, but maybe it's better if he stays away."  At any rate it hasn't seemed to hurt him.  Better stop before we get escorted out.  Those Dallas fans just don't understand (lol). 

BTW, I knew Red Sox were in a world of hurt when they loaded the bases, no out, INTHE FIRST INNING, and came away empty.  They had absolutely no patience at the bat. 

OSP provided a copious compendium of turboiana.  Thanks for assembling and sharing.  The interior was much more Spartan than the drawings indicate.  It was also much more cramped than the picture suggested.  Those of you who ever had the joy of making a long-haul flight on a Caravelle, well, remember how "much" room there was on that aircraft and you'll get the idea.  I will try and post tomorrow but it will not be until the afternoon as we have fun instructional activities scheduled.

Work safe

 

[siberianmo]

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Back in the Day - Number Five

The TurboTrain - Part II of II

 

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DESCRIPTION

A sleek, new lightweight passenger train, the Turbo-Train, enters service in 1968 in the United States and Canada. The TurboTrain is lighter, faster, quieter, smoother and more reliable than conventional trains -and cheaper to run. The TurboTrain, conceived on aerodynamic principles, and powered by aircraft-type gas turbine engines, was designed by United Aircraft Corpo-ration. It is being developed and marketed by Surface Transportation Systems, Sikorsky Aircraft Division.

 

 

The TurboTrain, built in lengths ranging from 3 to 9 cars per train, has a streamlined, airplane-like exterior designed to minimize drag, with a skin of smooth, heavy -gauge aluminum. A domed, passenger-carrying power car is at each end, one pulling and the other pushing one or more passenger coaches in between. The trains, being double-ended, need no switching or turnarounds, permitting a higher rate of equipment utilization.

TurboTrain cars are 2 1/2 feet lower than conventional cars. The lower center of gravity, pendulous suspension system, and guided axles enable this new train to round curves, with no change in present road beds, at speeds up to 40 percent greater than possible with conventional trains. As in an airplane, TurboTrain cars bank inward around curves under the influence of centrifugal force, as opposed to the outward motion experienced in con-ventional trains. Passengers remain upright in their seats even when rounding curves at advanced speeds. By means of guidance assemblies, the axles - one between each pair of cars - are steered around curves, reduc-ing flange wear and the tendency to shimmy. The result is a smoother, swifter, more efficient ride around curves, with greater passenger comfort. The capacity of the cars depends on the seating arrangements and furnish-ings specified by the operating railroad. A typical power dome car, with parlor and coach compartments, has room for about 50 persons. Non-powered coaches seat about the same number.

 

 

The TurboTrain is a modern, streamlined, high-speed intercity passenger train designed by aerospace engineers and based on the principles of flight.

Powered by aircraft-type gas turbine engines, it was designed to provide comfortable, high performance service on existing railroad trackage.

The train is in regular, scheduled intercity passenger service and is the only new non-electrified intercity passenger train to reach operational status in the United States in the Past 15 years

 

 

SPECIAL FEATURES

The TurboTrain has a number of advanced technical features. Key among them are utilization of an aircraft-type gas turbine engine for power and a pendulous banking suspension system.

 

 

Inside the cars, the layout and decor were designed for maximum passenger comfort. There are carpeting and draperies, soft, indirect lighting, individually controlled reading lights at each seat, fold-down tables, reclining seats with head rests, and carry-on luggage racks at the doors. Compact but fully equipped galleys are installed for fast, efficient food service.

Electric heat and air conditioning add to passengers comfort aboard the TurboTrain. The cars are slightly pressurized to keep out dust and to keep the noise level lower.

 

 

The gas turbine powerplant is utilized in more than 20 types of aircraft and a number of non-aviation applications. In the train, the turbine's shaft drives gears instead of propellers. The gears turn the train's wheels. The gas turbine, the ST6, is produced by United Aircraft of Canada Limited. It is operated at 400 horsepower, yet weighs only 300 pounds with accessories. The number of engines used in each train varies according to perfor mance desired. Each train has bays for up to seven engines but fewer can be used. More engines give faster acceleration and a higher top speed. In each train, one gas turbine is always used to drive an alternator to produce electricity for the train's needs. Since the gas turbines are so small and compact, they are located under passenger-carrying domes, thus permitting complete utilization of the train's interior. Dome cars are located at each end of the TurboTrain to give it bi-directional capability.

 

 

A major technological advance in the TurboTrain is its pendulous banking suspension system. The trains are suspended from near the top of the cars, above the center of gravity, on an A-frame type of assembly. The suspension system is located between the cars, except in the power dome cars. There it is located beneath the domes. The suspension system causes the train to bank inward around curves under the influence of centrifugal force, as opposed to the outward motion experienced by conventional trains. This enables the train to round curves with passenger comfort and safety at speeds 30 to 40 per cent faster than conventional trains.

This feature, plus faster acceleration and higher cruising speeds of the TurboTrains, permits significant reduction of trip times between cities, compared with conventional equipment.

The TurboTrain was operated at a speed of 170 miles an hour on the U.S. Department's high speed test track on the Penn Central's main-line between Trenton and New Brunswick, New Jersey. In revenue service, it is operated in some stretches at speeds of more than 100 miles an hour. The speed at which the train can be operated depends upon the condition of the track, the number of grade crossings and the type and condition of the signal system.

SPEED

The TurboTrain can travel at speeds up to 170 mph but initial top speeds in passenger-carrying service this year will be about 120 mph.

Under present schedules, the best rail time offered between Boston and New York is 4 hours and 15 minutes; between New York and Washington, 3 hours and 35 min-utes; between Hartford and New York, 2 hours and 20 minutes. United Aircraft's TurboTrain can reduce these times, respectively, to 3 hours, 15 minutes (with four intermediate stops); 2 hours and 36 minutes; 1 hour and 40 minutes. Performances were calculated through detailed studies, made

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, just a mugga Joe with a jolt - make it a double - if you please! And the usual for the gang at the bar, on the Manager of course - ring the bell, Boris! Keep the change my sweet! <blush>

CrittAHs are lined up ‘n waiting to be fed, so get with it, mate - then that small jar of PPF is YOURS!

Was going to lead in with my JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! But figgered some of youse guyz would be bored by it! Anyway, JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! <grin>

Great way to start off things ‘round here with a ‘special' from Da Bossman - nice work with the Turbo Train feature! Those two pix provide a great supplement to those posted yesterday! Also appreciated the comments from CM3 I'm NOT Shane, both on your "other" site ‘n here at the bar regarding the Turbo. Where ELSE could one expect to be cut in on such timely ‘n meaningful "stuff"?? ONLY at the Watering Hole by the Wayside - only here!

On the comments about our monthly anniversary "celebrations" - let me say this about that <a JFK quote!!> anyway . . .

I figure that between you ‘n me, we'll not forget the 12^th of the month. However, my "thing" is I'm not a babysitter at this place ‘n if the guys aren't interested in keeping the thing going - neither am I. Anyway, it's been a long, long time since we actually celebrated ‘n perhaps it's best kept that way. Figured the annual ‘n semi-annuals would be enough. BUT then the guys totally blew of the semi (our 30^th month) that took place this past Friday. Golly gee, gosh ‘n shucks! <grin>

 

 

CONGRATULATIONS to Wolfman Pete for making the 2,500^th submission at the "new" bar! Seems like the "counting" is a bit "fast," for wasn't it "just the other day" that 2,400 was reached by Jan ????? Seems so . . . . But, glad to see that one of our regulars was so recognized for the achievement! Now, get to work in order to PAY that bar tab!!! <uh oh>

Hey Fergie! Was that rendition of yours a Canadianism for trying to please everyone??? You're either government or you're not! My reading says you are a G-man! I mean who puts out your pay checks? Surely isn't Canadian Tire!! <grin> Anyway, learned something new - didn't know youse guyz are now into enforcement. Probably not a bad idea - but remember, the muzzle gets pointed to where the bad guys are! <grin>

Tomorrow - WEDNESDAY - is our optional Toy & Model Trains Day at the bar, so we're looking for something good from YOU!!!

Cruise Ship?? No thanks, no way no how. I'm like Cap'n Tom in that respect - next time I go to sea, it will be aboard something far smaller ‘n more in line with what I believe ships are all about. Floating hotel, casino ‘n banquet centers - nahhhhhhhhh! I'll take my turn below decks thank you very much - I believe my licenses are still in order for international requirements.

Hey CM3 I'm NOT Shane! The Indians are looking like they won't be rolling over for anyone. Like to see that kinda thing come playoff time. Sorry, Shane - but I'm NOT a Boston fan (figgered that out, huh ) BUT do think they have the BEST team in both leagues. BUT, we all know that the playoffs are another "thing" - get hot in the tournament ‘n that's all she wrote! Cardinals from last year proved that point much to the delight of our Proprietor!

Many thanks for supplementing my Turbo shots with some background info . . . nice!

Hey Eric! Look at it this way, mate - Reptiles don't belong in those frigid temps in Denver much less Boston or Cleveland. Come World Series time, who knows what the conditions in either of the AL parks will be like. So, they are bettAH off basking in the baking sun of Phoenix! <yikes>

Hey Allan! Mets Oh yeah, it's ok to talk about ‘em now. Their season ended when they got eliminated from the playoffs a couple of weeks back. So, next time you'll see anything from me will be in the spring of 2008 - when the new season starts.

Another quake in Kiwi land I heard! Didn't feel a thing here though . . . <grin> Good to know all's ok for you ‘n the Mrs.

Really "dig" that viaduct photo on the link! Looks to me as if a lot of pride in workmanship went into constructing it. Nice!

Hey Jan! Continuing on with some great looking pix of Swedish passenger trains! Always find it interesting to note just how many "different" types of cars ‘n locos e

[siberianmo]

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Back in the Day - Number Four

The TurboTrain - Part I of II

 

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The UAC TurboTrain was an early high-speed train manufactured by United Aircraft Corporation that operated in Canada between 1968 and 1982 and in the United States between 1968 and 1976 (though they were not disposed of by Amtrak until 1980). It was one of the first gas turbine-electric locomotives (GTELs) to enter service for passenger traffic, and was also one of the first tilting trains to enter service.

 

The Turbo is shown here in its original Canadian National livery in 1973, westbound from Montréal enroute to Toronto. <Fair Use - Wikipedia.com>

 

Description

The design had origins in studies done by the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway in the 1950s. These early studies did not include turbine power, but included a number of innovative design features for high-speed passenger service, including guided-axle tilting suspension, power cars at both ends, and the clamshell nose doors for combining locomotives to form longer trains.

The tilting mechanism was based on the passenger cars being suspended at their ends from wishbone (A-frame) suspension arms. As the train rounded a corner, the cars would swing outward to level the car floor in relation to the apparent "down". TurboTrain cars are 2 ½ feet (75 cm) lower than conventional cars, to lower the center of gravity in relation to the swinging point at the top of the arms. The arms included air springs to smooth out the motion, although it still felt "odd" while the train navigated short turns in switchyards and stations.

The suspension arms for each neighboring pair of cars were attached to a common bogie between them, as opposed to having a pair separate bogies for each car. The bogies rode the common curve between the two cars, centered by traction springs that centered the axle between adjoining car bodies. As the cars shared a single suspension, the train as a whole was a fixed length, requiring major work to add or remove passenger cars. This was the purpose of the doors at the ends of the power cars, which allowed two such trains to be "combined" end-to-end into a single longer train with a walkway between them protected by a flexible connector.

The patents were later implemented by United Aircraft to satisfy requirements of the Department of Transportation's Northeast Corridor Demonstration Project. Most of the original design survived, but UA added turbine power in place of the original diesel. The engines were a modified version of the famous Pratt & Whitney PT-6, built by UAC and known as the ST-6 (apparently for stationary turbine). The engine delivered 400 or 500 horsepower and drove an alternator though a hydraulic transmission system with gear reducers. A 3rd rail pickup assembly (a friction guide slipping on a third track) allowed the train to operate in the tunnels leading to Grand Central Station (and later Penn Station) in New York City with the engines turned off.

The engine was so much smaller and lighter (300 pounds (135 kg) with accessories) than the diesels they replaced that the power cars would have ended up being relatively small in comparison to the passenger cars. This "extra space" was utilized by extending the locomotives out to be somewhat longer than the passenger cars, placing the engines under a dome containing the driving controls and additional seating. The rear area of the resulting "Power Dome Cars" was similar to one-half of the normal passenger cars.

Production and use

In May 1966 Canadian National Railways ordered five TurboTrains of seven cars each for the Montreal-Toronto service. The Canadian trains were built by Montreal Locomotive Works, with their ST-6 engines supplied by UAC's Canadian division (now Pratt & Whitney Canada) in Longueuil, Québec on Montréal southshore. They originally planned to operate the trains in tandem, connecting two trains together into a larger fourteen-car arrangement with a total capacity of 644 passengers. While the trains were being built they changed their plans, and in 1971 a rebuild program was put into effect, converting the five seven-car sets to three nine-car sets. The leftover power and passenger cars were sold to Amtrak as two 4-car sets. One of those sets sideswiped a freight train on a test run in 1973 and burned up before delivery.

The Turbo's first demonstration run in December 1968 with Conductor James.A. (Jim) Abbey of Toronto, Ontario in command, included a large press and electronic media contingent. Unfortunately, the Turbo hit a truck at a level crossing outside of Kingston during

[Fergmiester]

Busy Place this Morning

 

G'day Tom and Sundry!

Coffee, Bagel with cream cheese and Smoked Salmon please and go easy on the bagel! 

Fergie. Still wondering if you have been involved with the charting of the North West passage at all, we had a news item here showing one of your CG ships working up there?

Sorry Allan not this one this is more off the Continental Shelf and the Labrador Basin measuring Salinity Temperature variances, plankton counts and other varied tests. We are measuring yearly changes and variances in the ocean environment.

 

I've been involved in Surveys up Labrador and Hudson Bay, Science in the Beaufort and re-supply most everywhere else in the Arctic. The Canadian Coast Guard usually has a minimum of seven ships in the Arctic from June to November every year.

 

Hudson had been scheduled for Research up in the Passage in September but we had problems with one of the cranes.

 

 

Fergie -  Interesting breed of pig you have up there! What altitude do they reach when flying?

Well let's just say they use the ground effect more than the drafting. Good thing too. Can you imagine the collateral damage one of those things could do at 10,000' ? In a Pig's eye you say! Better the pig than I. Fortunately during the cross breeding experiments it was found the curly tail of the pig was causing the beasts to cork screw themselves into the ground during take off so the pig being the intelligent critter it is doesn't like to fly.

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 1:54 PM: A cross between the swine ‘n flying squirrel?!!?!? Indeed! Methinks you've been too much into the grog, Mate!

Can't fly on one wing you know!

 

We just gotta get you onboard, Mate! You said

Fergie: Sorry about the Canadian navy/Coast Guard connection. I thought you were a private contractor, but of course the Coast Guard is a private entity not associated with the government.

Now here's the SCOOP - since Fergie didn't "jump on it" - the CCG is NOT a private entity - it is a government organization, just NOT military. I think I need a triple belt of JD . . . on Ron of course!

Actually... Like the Royal Canadian Mounted Police we are known as a SOA, a Special Operating Agency, which falls under the jurisdiction of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans. We also come under the umbrella of Homeland Security. CCG was formed in 1962 and was the culmination of 48 different government organizations, which operated vessels of all sorts of shapes and sizes and carried out a multitude of tasks. The largest organization that was part of this mix was the Canadian Government Service Fleet. This consisted of the Icebreakers and Buoytenders and Arctic Re-supply vessels. What wasn't taken in was the Science and Fisheries patrol fleets. This would not happen until 1996.Originall CCG was under the Transport Canada banner but with the last amalgamation the powers to be decided to transfer all of the organization to DFO. As far as us being a military organization no, however Officers do have powers of enforcement and seizure with regards to Pollution spills and the Fishery patrol vessels do carry armed Fishery Officers.

We are also in the process of building six armed mid-range Patrol vessels that will be armed.

In short we are a hybrid of a sort.  

Anyway that's my story for the day

Later All

Fergie

[JanOlov]

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Greetings Tom and fellow bar controllants.....

May I have the usual extra cold Guinness, top up with cigars for the boys please? $$$$ for yourself as well....

pwolfe, so that's why all those shoes are sitting at the door then.... Indeed they were mate, as well as the Y-6, Y-7 etc. etc.

Thanks for the link!

Gunneral,  well, as they say on one of the American train videos my dad used to have, probably now sold to Michael, one of my best friends, a clean train is a good train....a guy's walking on logg cars pulled by a Shay.....sweeping.

After all that work, my arm are just haning along the sides.....can I have a straw with my guinness please? I don't think that I can lift the pint right now....

EricX2000, NICE rotary my good man

Tom, but, but, but I thought.....never mind.... Anyhoo, I thought that the ones with interiors which were two, would count as one, so instead for eight you'd have five which is less then six even if there's more six pics.....oh dear headache again Back to the school desk I guess....

Here's one more golden oldie.....

UB7X 3951+X7 222 in Delsbo 1989.

Photographer: Christian Tellerup.

Interior X7 222 1989.

Photographer: Christian Tellerup.

Credit: Jarnvag.net

Two questions.....

1. Was Milwaukee Road the only railroad with different rotaries? Standard rotaries which were used whenever the snowfall was too haevy for wedge plows. If the problems were slides they brought out the "Slide Rotaries" which had fewer blades on their plow wheels, but the blades were more ruggedly built in order to effectively chew up trees and rocks...

2. Somewhere I've seen a picture of statue from one of the larger stations, a statue which is an angel with wings spread upwards holding a dead WWII soldier (I think) in his arms and ready to fly....

Does anyone of have a picture of this statue? I've seen it in one of my books, but of course NOT in anyone that I have here....which station is the statue to be found in?

[siberianmo]

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Guten Morgen allerseits!

Wie ist jeder? Es is OKTOBERFEST! Partei wollen wir!

 

 

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

OKTOBERFEST at "Our" Place every October Saturday at noon!

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

 

Monday - Oct 15^th:

 

Lars (LoveDomes) at 8:32 AM: Glad your absence was only a brief one - you needed a weekend OFF! <grin> Don't even try to figger it out . . .

Appreciated your dissertation on the 2^nd generation American thinking . . . I'm in the same category and feel precisely the same way! My grandfathers from the old country were very intent on melding into the ways of the new country. Don't even get me started on this "press 1 for English . . . . " <arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh>

Great TurboTrain fotos . . . inspired me to put something together for Posting a bit later on!

Giants WON! The St. Louis Lambs <aka: Rams> are toast - burnt at that! <groan> Zero ‘n Six is totally embarrassing ‘n I wonder if these guys accept their paychecks while walking backwards in the pay line Terrible.

Blues are doing quite well for a bunch of youngsters. New leadership has the team perking . . . let's see how it goes by mid-season.

Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n Pix!

 

 

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:10 AM: "Spotlighting the sports in the sportlight spotlight," yeah, right! You do come up with some Jim Dandy lead-ins . . .

BoSox lost! BoSox lost! BoSox lost! Looks like there's a competition going on in the AL playoffs, which ain't all that bad . . .

Quarters, chat, round ‘n all around good stuff always appreciated from our WVA Connection! Also, thanx for supporting "my other Thread"!! That info you put forth on the TurboTrain was worth repeating over here - so I did!

 

 

Ron (DD1) at 11:52 AM: If I have a goal in retired life it is this: I served 32 years of active duty - I figure that by living another 32 after retirement will pretty much make up for those lean years when the salary was something quite laughable stacked up against my civilian counterparts. So, I've been retired for 19 years - 13 more to go!

We just gotta get you onboard, Mate! You said

Fergie: Sorry about the Canadian navy/Coast Guard connection. I thought you were a private contractor, but of course the Coast Guard is a private entity not associated with the government.

Now here's the SCOOP - since Fergie didn't "jump on it" - the CCG is NOT a private entity - it is a government organization, just NOT military. I think I need a triple belt of JD . . . on Ron of course!

A very informative, interesting ‘n inclusive Post from our Resident Southern Gentleman from Mississippi <aka: transplanted New YAWKER!!>

Round appreciated!

 

 

Jan (JanOlov) at 12:36 PM & 1:20 PM: Pix from a guy who can't count to SIX!

Interesting spate of Swedish passenger trains . . .

Thanx for the visits, round, etc. . . .

 

 

Fergie (Fergmiester) at 1:54 PM: A cross between the swine ‘n flying squirrel?!!?!? Indeed! Methinks you've been too much into the grog, Mate!

Can't speak for the Larsman - for I'm not at all interested in a "cruise ship" environment. I wouldn't sign-on unless there was meaningful work for me to do! After all, a mariner is a mariner is a . . . <grin>

Can't remember the last time we've seen you in the early afternoon - but we take what we gets at the Bar by the Ballast ‘n you are always welcome!

Next time - buy the boyz a drink, willya <ka-ching> <ka-ching>

 

 

Pete (pwofle) at 4:53 PM: Congratulations on making the 2,500^th Post at our reborn bar! Since you already have free drinks for the week - you may add food to it as well! Also, that keg of your favorite brew is on the back patio - Boris said he'd load it into your vehicle whenever you're ready!

Thanx for the link to the Westerns - fine looking machines!

Not sure I'm following your thinking - as I read it, the Kalmbach maintenance has already impacted a couple of us at the bar ‘n it's done - for now.

No problem about the "monthly," at least YOU remembered we have one!