Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, a mid week <and mid month!> visit from the Larsman, alive ‘n well in the Florida keys. <grin> I've "heard" things are rather chilly in parts NORTH! <ha ha ha ha ha ha> Ooooooooops, sorry ‘bout that!
Boris, I see you've been taking good care of our crittAHs - but you MUST remember to keep them away from the top floor AND the Penthouse Suite. No, no, no - baaaaaaaaad Cyclops! <frown> Now, go ahead ‘n feed the gang ‘n help yourself to that LARGE jar of PPF!
A round for the gang ‘n I'll take a number three from the menu board along with a steaming hot mugga Joe with a double jolt if you please!
I'm VERY excited about this Sunday's game up in Green Bay. Don't envy any of those fans who will be sitting in that outdoor stadium, freezing their stern sections off. <yikes> I'll bet we'll see more than a few who go "shirtless" and all painted up ‘n full o' beer! <double yikes>. Takes all kinds, huh
Speaking of . . . WHY do we have to see that thread on top of our forum's "topic" page day after day after day I mean why can't that "thing" be put up where it belongs in the "Annoucements & FAQ" area at the very top of the forum page????? And WHO is this guy "selector" anyway???? What happened to "good old Bergie?????" Actually, I don't wanna know. <grin> Just sorta ticks me off about these guys who can't figure out one forum from another and then because of them, the rest of us have to "live with" that "thing" that never moves down the page. <gripe> <moan> <groan>
Today is the optional day for toys & models ‘round here. Sorry, but I'm fresh out of that kinda thing ‘n will just have to draw a bye . . . perhaps we should just let this go the way of so many other things at the bar. For example: We don't recognize the 12th as anything special any more - we don't have B'day Bashes - we don't have the Order of the Stools - and so on. So why not just let it go ‘n move on with what we DO the best That happens to be providing some GREAT material for the serious amongst us to ENJOY! Just a thought . . . .
Would like to acknowledge Shane - Pete - Eric - Fergie - Mike - Allan - and Dan for keeping things going ‘round here since my last visit! Oh yeah, a belated to Fergie - who most probably will nevAH read this! <groan> <grin>
Hey Cap'n Tom! What's the deal with Rolen to the Blue Jays I know he had major problems in Philadelphia with Larry Bowa <manager> but then we began reading about similar "issues" with Tony LaRussa. I thought LaRussa was one of those "touchy feely" guys - and not combative the way Bowa can be. Anyway, so another Prima Donna gets his way, huh I will say this though - Rolen is one heck of a 3rd baseman, haven't seen too many bettAH at that sack than he. A shame he has problems with understand what "boss" means . . . Maybe he isn't getting PAID enough, huh The Cardinals may just have pulled off a winnAH in getting Glaus - he's a "gudun"!
Wasn't that sad about Johnny Podres You said it best about the passing of another of our Boys of SummAH! <sad> Nice tribute from Mike . . . and to Shane for alerting us!
Keep on keeping on with the great material you've been coming up with! With 7,500 <plus> posts on these forums, my guess is you've got far MORE quality than most will evAH have. Anyway, the Switzerland ad, KCS 'n the Saturday material is all top shelf, mate!
Ok, ok - I got the message <finally> with the "remindAHs" of those used-to-be guys. Just ticks me off to see ‘em out ‘n about as if we don't have any feelings in the mattAH. <geesh> But ok - I'll TRY to control my runaway thoughts . . . <screw ‘em> <grin>
Hey Eric! There's a great song by Hall & Oates called "She's Gone!" Get it!?!?!? I wouldn't mess around with the boyz ovAH at the 2nd Class Saloon. Maybe she'll "surface" once she realizes how much you CARE! <ha> I mean <yeah>.
Great looking B'day cake ‘n as Da Bossman said, WHERE do you find ROOM for anything else - especially that "food" from the CrackAH Barrel! <geesh> No wondAH you need a gall bladdAH operation. Bet it's full o' crackAHs ‘n cheese! <grin>
Whaddyamean you hope Green Bay wins the Super Bowl!?!?! They haven't gotten to that point YET. Gotta get past my JINTS! <geesh>
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Nice and cold here today (approx +4 degrees) and clear. The K9 Korps was out at 6 a.m. today "defending the perimeter" against all enemies foreign and domestic. Gas is holding at $3.19.
Rob and DL were by with observations and comments.
Pete also visited with comments - glad I was able to answer your question re "shorts."
Eric - Excellent picture of C&IM locomotive. C&IM has always been one of my "more favorite" roads - why not, it carried coal!
OSP was by with comments and observations as well. "Taking slack?" Lord, some days I feel as if I am "pushing on the rope" trying to get stuff done. Anyway, point taken! BTW, heard that another "old-time" ballplayer pass away - Don Cardwell. I remember yrs ago always seeming to get him or Herb Plews in packs of Topps cards. Yes, Spike he played for the "original" Washington Senators.
Here is the next installment of KCS passenger material. For those who did not look at OSP's recent KCS post, check it out as it explains a lot about which cars were used on the "Southern Belle." Today's installment will tell you where they ran.
Kansas City Southern Passenger Service in 1950 - Part Three "Southern Belle"
The "Southern Belle," trains 1-101 and 2-102 were the pride of the railroad. Again, everything happened at Shreveport.
The "Belle" carried chair cars between Kansas City and New Orleans and Kansas City and Port Arthur. Diners operated between Kansas City and both end points and a tavern lounge observation between Kansas City and New Orleans. A pair of 14 roomette/4 double bedroom Pullmans ran on the "Belle," also between Kansas City and both end points.
The southbound "Belle," train 1-101, had a 4:00 p.m. departure from Kansas City. It arrived in Shreveport at 3:00 a.m. where it split. Train 1 left Shreveport at 3:15 a.m. en route to New Orleans where it arrived at 10:00 a.m. Train 101 left Shreveport at 3:30 a.m. reaching Port Arthur at 9:00 a.m.
Northbound, the "Belle" left Port Arthur at 4:20 p.m. as train 102. Train 2 departed New Orleans at 4:00 p.m. Train 102 was in Shreveport at 10:20 p.m. and train 2 arrived about 25 minutes later. Combined, train 102-2 departed Shreveport at 11:00 p.m. and was in Kansas City the next morning at 10 o'clock.
Work safe
P.S. There is one more short item to go on KCS which deals with their unnamed trains 9 and 10. Then I plan to return to New England-Canada service. Awhile back we got everybody out of North Station. I figure that it's about time to get ‘em back home.
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Wednesday's Witticism
There's always someone to take the slack out of a troublemaker's rope.
G'day Gents!
Mid-week in mid-month in mid-continent ‘n after a chilly start yesterday ‘n today, it's supposed to warm up a bit <over freezing (F)> then drop back with some very light snow predicted.
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Tuesday - Jan 15th:
Page 169 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 10:04 AM: Good continuing KCS material from our Resident WVA Connection! Glad my offering provided a bit of continuity . . .
We're due for about an inch of white stuff later on tonite ‘n into the ‘morrow . . . Surely isn't the wintertime that I remember. Getting really discouraged with this lousy change in climate ‘round here. Summers are as oppressive as a blast furnace, winters hardly a shadow of what they had been - swings in temps that remind me of an old cranky . . . oh never mind! <grin>
Page 169 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:36 AM: Really like that CPR 4-4-4 Jubilee you Posted over on "my other Thread." I don't think she was "out" when we visited ExpoRail . . . I've reviewed all of my fotos ‘n had she been on display, I surely wudda captured the image! Anyway, thanx for it, I've added her to my archives.
Really need to make sure that the guyz ‘round here get the "benefit" of those fotos that you provide over there . . . much more receptiveness amongst our crew, dontchathink
CPR 4-4-4 #2928 at ExpoRail, Saint-Constant, Québec, Canada <trolleyboy Rob foto>
This "Jubilee" light-locomotive was designed by Bowen and built by Canadian Locomotive Company (CLC) for service on secondary lines. The wheel arrangement was specific to the CPR in Canada and was developed to replace the older, small locomotives used on those lines. <partial quote from ExpoRail literature>
This "Jubilee" light-locomotive was designed by Bowen and built by Canadian Locomotive Company (CLC) for service on secondary lines. The wheel arrangement was specific to the CPR in Canada and was developed to replace the older, small locomotives used on those lines.
And you shouldn't complain about NOT getting <tweeted>! <geesh> As we used to say "back in the day," - "I'll give you something to complain about, if . . . . " <uh oh>
It will be interesting to see if the other half of our Canadian Connections picks up on being <tweeted>. Last time it was weeks, with several reminders, before he caught on. Bad, bad habits ingrained from those hit ‘n run joints, methinks. <barf>
Page 169 - Dan (DL-UK) at 12:05 PM: Never too late for pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery - especially since we now have our very own DoNut MoSheen! <grin>
Don't mean to "press" you regarding "offline comms" - just that there are certain private matters that shouldn't be put into the Ether for unrestricted viewing (home phone numbers - addresses ‘n the like). I'm sure you understand . . . We'll work something out should you find that a visit to mid-continent USA for Rendezvous III turns to reality!
It's gratifying to see that you've been able to stop by in mid-day <US CST> - it's a "slot" that has been "hurting" for awhile . . .
All the talk of pub visiting in the UK with Pete - how about a ROUND right here By the by, any refererence to "Our" Place for a Rendezvous - mini or full-fledged, MUST be endorsed by said Proprietor - that's MOI! So, if I'm not included - say no more <wink, wink> <nudge, nudge>! <uh oh>
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I'll have Steak & Bisquits, please. Cooked my way. Don't forget to add a lot of extra marinade! Cold Keith's, please!
I am getting used to not having to go to work in the morning in no time at all! I should have done this a long time ago.
Tom – Congratulations to your 7,500th post!!!
X2000 service concept means basically that the ticket price includes a meal that will be served at your seat. Just like the airlines used to do and still do over the Atlantic. On domestic flights you will hardly get even a tiny bag of peanuts any more. I think the Packers will give the Patriots their first loss this season in the Super Bowl!!! Thanks for the Kansas City Southern article! Very interesting! I like their paint scheme! I bet that diesel is operational, otherwise they would not have installed ditch lights on it. I guess I have to stop at Kansas City Union Station this year when I am leaving the Rendezvous! CM3 – Too bad you never had a chance to taste that cake! Thanks for part two of KCS 1950 Passenger Service - “Flying Crow”. My favorite KCS train! Rob – I wuld say that H&H did a perfect job with that cake! Very good indeed! To look at anyway. DL – It would be great if you could make it to Our Place 3rd Annual Rendezvous in May!!! It is only 120 days away!Pete – Amtrak’s former President D. Gunn officially said a number of times that Amtrak made a mistake not ordering their version of the X2000 (X2). Amtrak has had a lot of problems with Acela. Which is what you can expect when you buy a train that does not exist and get it delivered within a few years. I have to pay a visit to the Second Class Saloon and see if I can find the brunette! Nice photos from the Museum of Transportation, but kind of sad to see the snow on the locomotives. It makes those locomotives look like they are something left behind.
Chicago & Illinois Midland #551, 2-8-2. Built by Lima 1928. St. Louis Museum of Transportation, 2007.
Eric
Good evening Leon,just a pint or two of guiness for me this evening thank-you.
Pete-I'm glad that you survived the job ,Boris seems a bit apprehensive at his new clean digs he keeps muttering about the clean smells which are offending his nose I'm sure that inside the week it will be back to it's normal cesspool like condition .
Interesting photo's today I like the little US government plymouth industrial switcher , imagine a locomotive that is dwarfed by a caboose.I'm not sure what the UR means, maybe Chris will know and be able to answer that question when he gets back in.You could put people in the interior theer are moded seats inside and the roof lifts off to gain access to the interior. Once I get mine painted I'm planning on putting some people inside.
Dan-I'm glad that you enjoyed the TTC stuff.Over time I'm going to redo alot of teh traction posts I made on the other thread. as they say Rome wasn't built in a day. if you do get to Toronto again let me know ahead and we'll meet up, I can't have someone riding the Rocket by themeselves.Some intersting urls I need to strudy them a bit deeper
Rob
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Holden's Golden Glow please RUTH.
ROB Those pints were very welcome after Fergie and I had cleaned out the shed. Its looking pretty good now but we will have to keep SPIKE away from BORIS'S toys, I think he was tipped off about our cleaning, as he had hidden is Junior Lab Assistant's Set
That is a good museum in North Tyneside I am sure Allan will know the area well. I had a look at the Bachmann web site; those look great models of the Witt streetcars. I noticed on the St Louis one it had ‘UR' on the side, did this stand for Urban Railroad do you know. It would really add to the models if they did have passengers on board.
ERIC Yes I would like to see the Packers win the Superbowl crown this year.
I did not know about the X2000 was in fact a class X2. It is all the more surprising Amtrak did not order the X2s considering how well it performed, I believe there has been problems with the Acelas causing their withdrawal from service for a time fairly recently.
Great looking 'Birthday Cake'
With the Brunette going over to the Second Class Saloon it should make for an interesting Darts Contest this year.
CM3 Many thanks for the details on the KCS Flying Crow.
Thanks for the explanation on the ‘short cars'. It has made me think about if, in the 1950s, the named trains were reservation only like today's Amtrak. If they were they could have filled up the seats of the short car for different stages of the journey or was it turn up and hope for a seat.
DL It would be great if it was at all possible you could join us in St Louis. I am sure we be able to draw up a great itinerary for some Holden's pubs in the West Midlands, perhaps a visit to the Beacon Hotel in Sedgley for some Sarah Hughes Ruby Mild, there is a Holden pub just up the road from the Beacon and great sandwich shop by the bus stop.
Many thanks for the links to the Workington Shed Project, I will have to look out in the railway magazines for any more news. No doubt it will cost a lot of money but what an attraction for the GCR it would be, in between trains at Loughbourough a DMU trip to the shed would be great.
The memories of the staff as you say are well worth reading although very sad, as the shed and the work ran down. I noticed in the first memory, the gentleman served at Rugby Shed for a while. It would be great to know what the Workington drivers thought of those Metro-Vick Co-Bos diesels I see there was a couple of them in the photos. Thanks for sharing.
TOM Easy quiz for you which British band sang Ruby ‘Chewsday'. I am sure you will be pleased with the job Fergie and I have done in cleaning the ‘Shed', how long it will last that clean is anybody's guess.
What a great web site you found in your reply to Mike. Those photos are simply magic and rare showing A4 s in LNER and BR days. The photo of No 22 Mallard is taken during the 1948 Locomotive Exchanges I believe; there is a Dynamometer Car behind the tender. Like the picture of the A4 No 60010, we saw at ExpoRail, in steam. A couple of things I noticed in the
Hello Tom and all in
Is it too late for some of the breakfast goodies - I hope not - those Bakery products always taste good and if there are any left I'd like to chose one or two! Fruit juice and coffee too please!
Tom - I've certainly got the date of the get together in my mind - thanks for reminding me - I'd liaise off line if it was a remote possibility. It would be hard for me to resist being in the same country at the same time and not making it! An interesting Amtrak ride could be factored in! I take your point on air fares - they'll get what they can won't they!
Rob - really enjoyed the TTC history articles (plus your other info), informative and interesting - as you know I'm a big fan of the TTC and it is good to learn more!
Allan - do you recall seeing the Silver Link loco and train in action back in the day? Or perhaps only in its post war guise. Sounds to me like you need to be planning a UK trip around the time of the anniversary of the 1938 record breaking runs! Seriously, do you ever get back to the ‘old country' - it's a lot easier said than done from your part of the globe I'd guess.
Talking of which - Pete - good to know you still plan a a visit - if we can do a mini ‘our place' rendezvous UK side as you suggest that would be great. A few pints at choice west midlands pubs (Holden's Mild...) combined with a west mids rover ticket or a Severn Valley trip - it's a date to clear the diary for in my view.
Turning to learning things - I'd heard of the Workington Steam shed but did not realise there was plan to move it to Loughborough - how much is that costing?
Amazing really that the shed has been lying more or less idle since 1968 - goes to show the state of the economy and land value in Workington I guess.
Anyway - there seems to be a web site dedicated to the plan
http://www.llwp.org.uk/index.asp
Looks like they have dismantled it and got it in store. The hard bit looks like preparing the earthworks and new site for it to be re erected on - along with the new canal bridge at Loughborough to provide access.
But the most recent update is May 07 - it does make a great read though:
http://www.llwp.org.uk/articles.asp?articleID=1
What also is interesting are these memories of staff - short pieces and again worth a read - I'm sure others will enjoy these too:
http://www.llwp.org.uk/people.asp
I see posts from Tom, CM3 and Rob since I prepared this on my WP so I'll peruse them now
Good wishes to all
DL
hello Ruth , just a splashed coffee and a quick number three if you could. It smells very hopsitallike in here today , must be the residu from the Hazmat gang , I for one am glad that the spacesuits are gone it ws abit creepy last night. Mind you the shed is glowing and not because of some experiment Boris may be running either ,Nick never should have bought Boris that junior lab assistants kit.I don't know how many time I've seen him stooped over an infaltable that had all sorts of electrodes stuck to it, and him mumbling something about it being alive right before it blows up .
Tom-Hmm a tweet for being nice that doesn't seem right , oh well your dabossman.
Just think of it you could have a nice streetcar runnning downtown and it wouldn't cause you as much greif or bending as the subway,I was just thinking about your back mate.
great info on KCS passenger trains and a couple nice photo's to boot I have to say though that early KCS paint scheme is a tad loud , not as loud as some of the Seaboard or Atlantic Coast Line one's though however .
I hear you about sports playoffs top four or six only and get it over with. I wouldn't make amny friends in the sports business world that way though
Eric-That is quite the cake,even if Tom does feel faint knowing theat H&H had ahand in it it doesn't look all that bad... on the surface.
And yes nine systems under four companies was a tad insane, no rate system ofr transfer system in common, one heck of a mess. By know means is the TTC perfect but at least you can travel multi-modal on the same fare schedual and transfer between them,drastic improvement.
Shane-great continuing info on theh KCS trains, I'm lookingforward to tomorrows installment
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Cold here today and we got abt. 3 inches of "slight chance of flurries" just abt. the time I was ready to head for work. "Game on" indeed! Gas is holding at $3.19.
Mike was by with some good Johnny Podres photos.
DL visited with comments and Rob is continuing his informative notes on the TTC.
Pete was by with comments.
Fergie - Belated happy birthday to you! BTW, nice set of CN cabs - you "done good."
Allan - I understand what you are saying, but you can never have too much antidote. Kind of like the old story about why the guy drank so much. He said, "I do it to keep the snakes away. You don't see any around here, so it must work."
Pete - "Short" cars carry folks not riding for the full length of a run. For example, say a train runs from Cincinnati to Washington, DC. Some cars would carry passengers running from one terminal to another. Passengers riding from Cincinnati to White Sulphur Springs, for example, would ride in a so-called "short" car since they were not making the entire trip. IOW, it has nothing do with the length of the car.
Eric - Nice cake, chief!
OSP was by with Swiss and KCS material which ties in nicely with today's posting as we unravel the mystery of the "Flying Crow."
KCS 1950 Passenger Service - Part Two - "Flying Crow"
"Flying Crow," operations on the KCS also centered on Shreveport. The southbound "Crow," train 5-15, departed Kansas City at 9:35 p.m. and arrived in Shreveport at 12:10 p.m. the next day. Trains 5 and 15 split at Shreveport.
Train 15 left Shreveport at 1:40 p.m. and pulled into Port Arthur at 8:00 p.m. that evening. Train 15 carried chair cars from Kansas City to Port Arthur. Train 5, operating to New Orleans, left Shreveport at 12:45 p.m. with an arrival at the Crescent City's Rampart St. Station nine hours later. It carried chair cars from Kansas City to New Orleans.
The northbound "Flying Crow" carried train numbers 6-16. Both trains converged on Shreveport, were combined, and ran together from there to Kansas City.
Train 16 departed Port Arthur at 10:30 a.m. with a 4:10 p.m. arrival in Shreveport. Train 6 left New Orleans at 7:45 a.m. and pulled into Shreveport at 4:25 p.m.
The combined "Crow," (now train 6-16) departed Shreveport at 5:00 p.m. with a 7:45 a.m. next morning arrival at Kansas City. 6-16 also carried the 14 roomette/4 double bedroom Shreveport-St. Louis Pullman as far as Texarkana where it was handed off to MP 32, the northbound "Sunshine Special."
Tomorrow we'll take a look at the "Southern Belle."
Now Arriving on Track Number One
Back in the Day
# Eleven - Kansas City Southern's Southern Belle
Caveat: All narrative, fotos & graphics from wikipedia.com with their authority. Material NOT corroborated.
Southern Belle (KCS)
The Southern Belle was a named passenger train service offered by Kansas City Southern Railway (KCS) from the 1940s through the 1960s, running between Kansas City, Missouri and New Orleans, Louisiana.
The service was inaugurated on September 2, 1940. To promote the new train, KCS held a beauty contest to find "Miss Southern Belle," a young woman whose image would be used in advertising materials systemwide. Local competitions were held before the train's launch in all of the cities that the KCS served. The ultimate winner of the competition, Margaret Landry Moore, was the winner of the local competition in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. She was selected as "Miss Southern Belle" at the final competition in New Orleans, Louisiana, on August 24, 1940.[1] She briefly became a screen actress, being most famous for her cameo as Teresa Guadalupe in The Leopard Man (1943).
Powered by an EMD E3 locomotive, Kansas City Southern Railway train No. 1, the Southern Belle, passes through Kansas City, Missouri on August 17, 1940. <Fair Use - Denver Public Library/Wikipedia.com>
Equipment used
Just before inauguration, Pullman-Standard delivered three new lightweight passenger car sets to the KCS for use on the Southern Belle. Each set consisted of a combination baggage-RPO-dormitory (car numbers 64, 65 and 66), a 74-seat coach chair car (cars 234, Pittsburg; 235, Joplin; and 236, Texarkana), and a dining-observation car (car numbers 54, Kansas City; 55, Shreveport; and 56, New Orleans).
The KCS rebuilt five heavyweight Pullman sleepers for use on the Southern Belle, making them look like their lightweight counterparts and increasing the number of double bedrooms in each. Cars Siloam Springs (formerly McBurney) and Sulphur Springs (formerly McLarty) were rebuilt in time for the train's inauguration. Initially, Pullman service was only offered between New Orleans and Shreveport, Louisiana. In 1941, car Barksdale (formerly McAllisterville) was added to the train's operation when Pullman service was extended from Shreveport to Kansas City. The first two rebuilt cars were joined a few months later by rebuilt cars State Capital (formerly McElheran) and Mena (formerly McKullo) on the southern leg of the train's schedule.
After World War II, the train was re-equipped with some new cars built in 1948 by American Car and Foundry
As our Brit friends might say - it's "Chewsday" once again. Time to refill those coffee mugs, grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast before heading out into that cruel, cruel world of reality.
Topped off the wagon yesterday at $2.79 <rounded). Temps have dropped as "they" are saying we'll be back in the deep freeze before mid-week. <awwwwwwwright!>
Monday - Jan 14th:
Page 168 -Lars (LoveDomes) at 7:54 AM: Hoped we'd see ya on Monday, ‘n you didn't disappoint!
Figured you'd want to <chortle> ‘bout those Giants!
The game really wasn't one of the best of the 4 over the weekend, but had the BEST conclusion as far as I'm concerned <after Green Bay, that is!> Still don't care for Eli - ‘n am not at all sorry that his big-bro is "out" for this run to the Super Bowl . . . <grin>
Colts BELONG in Baltimore - can't accept that "horseshoe" as being anywhere else. <groan> Where's Johnny Unitas when we need him Then again, even he wound up elsewhere at the end of his career . . . <geesh>
The idea of monthly celebrations for "Our" Place have gone by the boards - but it is disturbing that so few even recall the 12th as something ‘special' for us.
And I also noticed some (4) UTBs on-line over the weekend - guys who NEVER said good-bye (nor responded to Emails at the "end"), but surely were involved with us for many, many months - from B'day Bashes to all kinds of great submissions - then - gone-ZO. Won't bother listing ‘em - what's the point THEY know who THEY are ‘n so do WE. Let's NOT bring this up again - DEAL Getting really tiresome ‘n OLD. They are GONE ‘n we're BETTER off for it. ‘nuf said!
We have a fine nucleus of regulars ‘n the part-timers are doing a commendable job at helping us remain afloat. Long live "Our" Place as we march on to April 12th!
Email received ‘n responded to - thanx!
Never get weary of those New York Central covers!
Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n round!
Page 168 - Ron (DD1) at 8:25 AM: A visit from our Irregular Part-timer down in Mississippi! Always good to see ya at the bar - sorry things aren't going as well for you as you'd like in the health dept. Sure is "fun" aging, eh
As mentioned a few Pages ago - since we're in the Ether <cyber space> you, Sir, may imbibe in whatever you'd like with absolutely NO after or ill effects! So go fer it!
I think you're selling yourself short when you say you "don't have much to contribute," for what we have seen is top shelf ‘n it all isn't from Chile! Looking forward to MORE from our Southern Gentleman <aka: transplanted New Yorker!>
Round appreciated!
Page 168 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:34 AM: Johnny Podres! Now there's a name from MY distant past . . . <grin> Always sad when MY Boys of Summer pass on . . .
John Joseph Podres (September 30, 1932 - January 13, 2008) was an American Major League Baseball left-handed starting pitcher who spent most of his career with the National League Brooklyn and Los Angeles Dodgers. He was the Most Valuable Player of the 1955 World Ser Happy Railroading! Siberianmo EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:09 AM Good morning Captain Tom and gentlemen!!Leon, my friend, just a cheese burger please. No, i'll have a Tui!Thank you all of you for all Birthday wishes! 65 means I am senior if I like it or not. But I like it even though I feel more like 27. I think the Packers will win the Super Bowl this year! Rob – You are really bringing good news! I have to make it to Molly’s as soon as possible and see if the brunette is there! Interesting pictures of those diesels! That Brill loks very much like the one below. Brill Model-55 Combination CarDid you see my Birthday cake? If not, here it is.Mmmm!!!!Thanks for part #3 of the Toronto Transportation Comission! Very interesting!! Nine different systems controlled by four different companies must have been a mess. Tom – Thank you for your very kind words! It is always interesting to learn about trains from a technical and historical point of view and if I, at the same time, can tell about things I know makes me feel even better. So you think the brunette went to the Second Class Saloon? Hmm, I have info that she is at Molly’s. Two, for me unknown, movies that seem to be very good! Looking forward to see them!I don’t look a day older than what? Twentyseven? Switzerland, a country for train freaks! You can go any place in Switzerland by train! Nice poster, Jura - Simplon Railway. The Simplon tunnel is something else, goes round and round in circles inside the mountain.Lars – Thanks for the round! Sometimes it is good to have a birthday and get a lot of stuff for free. Got a free desert at Cracker Barrel today. I am sorry to say that the end of the season for the Jints is coming soon! They will play their last game against the Packers! Go Packers!!!Nice New York Central book covers! Would be interesting to read the Great Steel Fleet! Ron – Thank you for the Birthday wishes! I agree, it feels like the best part of life is about to start! You better take it easy and get your muscles and back in order. CM3 – Thank you! Glad you like my little “thing” about the revenue service. Interesting reading about KCS and their Passenger service! Thank you for the medical alert! I had that Weary Overload Recreational Killer disease for years but feel much better nowadays. Mike – Thanks for the Birthday wishes! I noticed that you called the train X2 and not X2000! That is correct, it is class X2. There is no class X2000. X2000 is a service concept. But for some reason Amtrak introduced the train as X2000 during the time they leased it. I have seen the picture you are posting before, but I can’t remember what the occasion was. I just found part of the answer, the photo is from London Kings Cross station. DL – Thank you for the link to Nene Valley Railway! I found two Swedish locomotives, a class B and a class S. Pete – I had the 100,000th post!?!? Bring the brunette! I am ready for the reunion! Thanks for the Birthday wishes! Sorry you got tweeted. Yes, the X2000 performed extremely well both during all tests and in revenue service! Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, January 14, 2008 10:38 PM Good evening Leon, wow a twenty yadr garbage container almost full to the brim outside of the shed.I see that the Mentor Hazmat folks are spraying down the contents as the boys dig deeper into the bowels of the shed. It almsot seems "TARDIS like" I think daboosman should tweet more often Anyhow I think I'll haev a nice draft of keith's and I'll leave a couple bucks for our worhty shed cleaners so they can enjoy a round or two,once they've cleaned off and gotten out of their "white suits"Fergie- Belated greetings for you as well sir,sorry to ehar about your "job" but at least you had Pete's sence of humour to keep you company while you dug and dug and dug.... etc.I'm feeling outnumbered I only have one CNR caboose they do look great though,the Mike's also a beaut. I wonder what you may have to clean once Lisa discovers it though Yup the first CLRV order was actually 1978-79 and the ALRV's are mid eighties builds, all haev ahd two or three complete rebuilds so it's almost time.Amazingly of the 300 CLRV's purchased 298 are still in service Pete- Make sure the Hazmat boys hose you guys off before you come back into the bar. remeber a couple pints are on me to ease your pain. I haven't got the DNA reports back from H&H yet so don't go skipping the country quite yetThanks for the link to the tyneside museum Do look at the Bachman site , I noticed tonight that they had all the painted examples pictures up. I could see you happily running the St Louis one.They do run well, had one over at Heather's dad's tonight and man does it creep almost tie to tie. the motor is mounted below the floor as well so it has an interior begging for people to be put in the seats.Allan-It was a shame about Edmond Hillery, I'm glad to hear that he's getting the national recognition he deserves I have a few more good shots of some diesel wierdies I'll see if I can't find a few more for you to enjoy,I have some neat traction oddballs as well. Street railway work equipment has always been shall we say unique.Tom-Nice blast from the past on the Swiss railways great to see some TEE equipment in it's native land. By the way I haven't been able to get that Bathurst story to come up , not sure why a computer gremlin I'm assuming. A derailment Rob pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Monday, January 14, 2008 8:17 PM Hi Tom and all.A pint of Bathams please LEON.ROB Glad you enjoyed Alan's German photos Thanks for the info on W28 and the photo of the G car.What a great find in the model shop, I will have a look at the Bachmann web site for the photos.Many thanks for those interesting diesels photos and the history of the TTC part #3.It is good to see the CLRV streetcars has some of style of the earlier streetcars.I have nothing to fear from Inspector Clueless I wasn't there Guv.ERIC Yes Friday was a very busy day at the bar I was hoping you could get the 3,333th post; I did try to get another reunion with the brunette for you.( and see what happened to me)Glad you enjoyed Alan's photos and thanks for the big-boy cab photo.Many thanks for the very interesting X2000 in Revenue Service and the photos. It seemed the train performed well and drew in extra passengers, what a shame the X2000 was not bought and used in fleet service on the East Coast corridor. ALLAN Yes it was a shame Silver Link was not saved, It certainly deserved a place in preservation for the work it done when it was first built on the Silver Jubilee and setting a new speed record at the time. In 1988 A4 Bittern was painted in the silver livery and was numbered 2509 and named Silver Link. It was lined up with the Garter blue Mallard and Sir Nigel Gresley outside the museum at York. For a while 2509, although not in working order was at the North Tyneside railway museum where I saw her. A link to the museum http://www.ntsra.org.uk/museum.html 60019 has recently returned to steam and is in BR Brunswick Green and due to work on the main line working specials.Glad you enjoyed Alan's photos. Many thanks for the links to the New Zealand railways.Yes Sir Ed Hillary was a credit to New Zealand, no only conquering Everest but his great humility and good works made him very special.LARS Well done to the Giants, what a shame it can't be the Giants and the Packers in the Super Bowl still should be a good game next week.At least I can't be blame for the attempted forced entry to the Penthouse Suite, as I was not around, personally I think it was the brunette looking for Eric.Many thanks for the NYC covers from the Larsman Mobile. Love the one on the NYC Mercury cover.RON Real sorry to hear your back is giving you so much trouble. It is always good when you are able to call in the bar I always like to read about the railways in Chile.CM3 Many thanks for Part 1 of the KCS Passenger service from 1950. I don't think I have heard the term ‘Short Coaches' before. I see the KCS and Northern Southern F units were in Meridian MISS for a railfest recently.Good advice to Eric from the Mentor Emergency Service Squad.MIKE Many thanks for that great photo of Silver Link leaving London King's Cross on the Silver Jubilee express to Newcastle On Tyne. By the number of people on the platforms it could have been the first run of the express.DL Yes I should be over to England this year, when I get the dates sorted out I will be sure to let you know and we can meet up with Alan and have a few pints Gunneral Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: NZ 242 posts Posted by Gunneral on Monday, January 14, 2008 7:05 PM Hi Tom and all,Leon, Tui`s all round for the crew please!Eric. Hearty congratulations on your birthday mate, to YOU! Have a GOOD ONE, take it easy on all those GOODIES. Thanks for the nice write up and great pics on the X2000 revenue services in the US.Rob. A nice lot of interesting pics of those diesel oddities, have saved them all on file. Nice continuation of the TTC story in Pt 3.Lars. A welcome visit from the Larsman on the Key`s, and a nice selection of covAHS of the NYC from the Larsman Mobile, GREAT!Ron. Nice to read your back pain is pretty well gone now, hope you get back to your model engine work soon.CM3. A really informative write up on the KCS passenger services, very interesting thanks. Now i`m retired it looks as if i`m immune from that WORK virus!Mike. Nice to see you in again so soon, thanks for the great pic of the Silver Link, my favourite train and loco! I was one month old when the Silver Link first ran in 1935 so that pic held a lot of nostalgia for me. Nice links to those pics of Johnny Podres.Dan. Good to see you in again.Pete. Nice to see you in on a quick visit.Fergie. Many belated greetings mate, hope you had a good ONE! Nice pics of your MESS RR, is that a shot of your new loco?Tom. Glad you enjoyed the info on the NZ passenger services, I thought it would have been the Overlander trip that was the cause for complaint. OnTrack have a really tough job of upgrading all that big lack of track maintainance over the years, at least something is being done about it now. It would be really great if you could get one of those MATS flights, the USAF flies into Christchurch on a regular basis for the Antartic base project, just MAYBE? We had a similar scheme in the Brit forces called "Indulgence flights" but only for serving personnel. Nice selection of flics for the weekend, had the Bourne Identity DVD out a few weeks ago, a great action movie with great sound effects. Nice Swiss Federal Railways write up and pics, see we were both in at the same time! All of New Zealand is in mourning for Sir Ed Hillary, he prefered being called Ed, he is a Kiwi icon and a great example of the Kiwi "can do" attitude, they are having a full State funeral for him in Auckland on Tuesday week, he was the only living New Zealander who`s face was printed on a NZ banknote, the $5 note. May he "Everest"!See ya, Allan siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Monday, January 14, 2008 6:23 PM G'day Gents!A re-worked retrieval from our archives of Blasts from the Past! PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #66 <A form of this was initially Posted on 21 Jan 2006, Page 231 of the Original Thread> Here's something to enjoy regarding the SWISS FEDERAL RAILROADS from a 1933 advertisement in my personal collection. A Treasure-House of Scenery Behind the Towering Alps Switzerland - fairyland of azure lakes, snowy peaks and quaint century-old villages. Every golden hour spent in this fascinating land remains a precious memory throughout a lifetime. Visit it NOW . . . such an opportunity may never come again. Costs everywhere are sweepingly reduced. Swiss thoughtfulness provides a unique railroad ticket on which you travel as you please - change your route at will - with rates adjusted to suit all tastes. You will include in your trip the famous St. Gothard route with ZURICH and lovely LUCERNE, cradle of the Swiss Confederation and unique spot for excursions by boat and rail. LUGANO-LOCARNO, floral paradise of the Swiss Italian lake district and on the Simplon Line distinguished LAUSSANE-OUCHY, international center for education and travel . . . Loetshberg Line on the BERNESE OBERLAND with the quaint old towns of BERNE, capital of Switzerland . . . and THUN-INTERLOCKEN, for that spectacular trip . . . on the JUNGFRAUJOCH. Write for Packet NG-1 to the Official Agency of the SWISS FEDERAL RAILROADS, 475 Fifth Avenue, New York City. SWITZERLAND * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Switzerland: Crystal Panoramic Express (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) Switzerland TEE, built by (Deutsche Bahn AG), Germany (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Enjoy! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Monday, January 14, 2008 4:12 PM SPECIAL for FERGIE!And a belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY to YOU, Sir Mariner! However, you are NOT part of our "Birthday Watch List" <given ample opportunity to join by "offline Email," I should add!> and therefore NOT entitled to all the PERKS 'n STUFF associated with being an "Our" Place Natal Day Celebrant! <sorry> I do think there's a pony Keg of Keiths lager with your name on it 'round here somewhere . . . Now to the BEST PART! <tweeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeet> You have violated Rule #39 - Posting model or toy trains material on a day OTHER THAN Wednesday - or - Saturday! <uh oh> Punishment: Assist Bar Chandler Pete with the thorough cleaning of Boris' Shed. <ugh>Laff 'n the world laff's with you - frown 'n you're all ALONE, Mate! <grin>Oh yeah - thanx for the visit - love the steamer 'n trailing cabooses <can't say "cabeese" <ugh>! <grin>Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Fergmiester Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Out on the Briny Ocean Tossed 4,240 posts Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, January 14, 2008 3:23 PM Good Afternoon Captain Tom and SundryEric but I beat ya to it as mine was yesterday... No I'm not bragging I'm lamenting I don't know if it's the flu bug in the house, the beer (Kieth's on Tap from the local German Ale house) the wine or the rusty nails (plural)... Had so much planned for the day siberianmo wrote:You Sir are now OH-FISH-UL-LEE <tweeted> for exceeding authority 'n misinterpreting the "count"! Rules #63 'n #87. To the Shed with ye . . . <uh oh>as to this I say...HA... HA HA... HAHAHA HAalooks good on ya bud!Trolley Boy: 30 years old?!? Oh you just aged me as I remember riding them when they first came out! Ohh that hurtsFor me Birthday I got Though Lisa doesn't know about the "Mike"Later All Fergie Here Pete this one is on me. Hate to see a grown man cry. Tom can be awful hard on ya can't he! http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959 If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007 trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, January 14, 2008 2:26 PM Afternoon again Ruth, could I get another Keith's, thank-you.Pete-Nice to see you 100,000th post Ruth I think you had better cut off the bar chandler_BTW Pete the inmspector and his aids need to chat with you <uh oh > don't worry H&H won't hurt you much while they hog tie and finger print youTHE PRE_HISTORY O F THE TTC PART # 3THE TORONTO TRANSORTATION COMMISSION 1921-1953 With four different companies controlling nine different systems , public transportation in Toronto was in utter chaos.The cost to the public for rides to work , and home, was becomming increasingly difficult to uphold, so something had to be done.Citizens exercised their voting franchise on Jan 1st 1920 and decided that all of Toronto's public transit systems should be placed under the direction of one orginization.By this vote the Toronto Transportaion Commission was created. On Sept. 1, 1921 , the new commission took over all operations of the TRC and Civic Lines.It bought and introduced the new Peter Witt streetcars which were a complete improvement over any of the older cars still running.New routes were introduced,trackwork was heavily replaced and upgraded between 1921-23, and routes were aquiredf rom the TSR in 1923 and the T&YRR in 1927.Many of the Civic lines were extended and joined onto the old TRC lines enebling more system wide usage of turining loops, eliminating the need for most double ended cars. Other improvements included the withdrawl of many of the older single truck car types and the old horse car trailers.The introduction of new Peter Witt trailers on the busy routes such as Collage and Yonge streets,and the upgrade of buildings ,loops, and finally teh building of a new state of the art repair centre at Bathurst street and Davenport road ( Hillcrest Shops ) allowed the replacement of the old worn out TRC shops at front and Frederick street. In 1938 , the TTC was instrumental in the introduction of the new PCC car design,which in one fell swoop resigned all other streetcar designs to the past.During the war years, the TTC maintained it's fleet,ordered new PCC cars and introduced women to it's workforce for the first time. They hired on as operators and as shop workers. In 1953 , The Metroploitan system of government ws introduced to Toronto and the Toronto Tansportation Commission, which had sole responsibility for city transportation metro area wide.The company was revamped into the Toronto Transit Commission and in 1954 they oppened the first subway line on Yonge street,which is the forerunner of the modern rapid transit systems in Cananda. TORONTO TRANSIT COMMISSION 1954-PRESANT In 1963 came the University Ave subway, followed by the Bloor-Danforth Lines. These replaced surface operations on these increasingly busier streets in 1966.The Spadinna extention was added in 1978 and Bloor -Danforth was extended twice in 1968 and in 1980.Extentions to the original Yonge line were completed in 1973-74.The newest "tube" is the Sheppard Ave line completed in 2002 and work is beginning on extending the University line down to the campus of York University scheduled for completion in 2012.The TTC also buiklt the Scarborough rapid Transit in the 80's and they are looking at a further $2B in light rail to finally extend rail corridors out of the city into Mississauga and hopefully the Pearson Airport. thes will be surface LRT type lines running in a dedicated streetcar only right of way similar to what is being done currently to the St Clair Ave line. The TTC will still be an in city streetcar bus , subway system. At preasant replacement subway cars are comming from bombardeir to replace the oldest T and H series subway cars currently in use. New streetcars are being tendered for as well as the well tried CLRV's are now approachng 30 years old An almost as new CLRV in the 1980's.enjoy Rob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM SPECIAL for PETE!What in the world are you SMOKING or DRINKING?!?!?100,000th Post???? Nope! I think you are speaking of visit . . . anyway, the Penthouse Suite is NOT YOURS to dole out nor is the brunette in town! <triple geesh>You Sir are now OH-FISH-UL-LEE <tweeted> for exceeding authority 'n misinterpreting the "count"! Rules #63 'n #87. To the Shed with ye . . . <uh oh>Good to have you back - I think! <groan>Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Monday, January 14, 2008 1:35 PM Hi Tom and all.A pint of Bathams please RUTH while I catch up on the posts over the weekend. to ERIC on your 65th .By my calculations I think it was you, Eric, who had the 100,000th post so a special prize of the Penthouse Suite and a reunion with the brunette would be OK.. I am still feeling guilty of doing the 3,333th post, so I am trying to help you out.Pete. trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, January 14, 2008 1:25 PM Good afternoon Ruth, my don't you have a big smile on your face today.Anyway I think a great big roast beef on rye with all the usual fixings,oh and a Keith's to wsh her down with thank-you. Keep the change and here's a sack'o'coin for herr wurlitzer as well.Tom-Well the trip on Amtrak to the wet northwest does not sound like too abd a second if the extremly north of the boarder trip does not work out. Heck it's a train trip over a few days,I'm sure you can deal with that ,<grin> Try not to stir up the natives too much if you go there, you know how liberals cry afterall The trolley you swapped me is O scale, the little guy I bought is actually HO and a wonderfull running little guy too,I'm still shicked that someone made it. Takea look on bachman's website,key in Peter Witt in their search engine and the pics will come up of teh undec and the painted one's they are producing. Brooklyn and St Louis are two of the paint schemems thata er comming out ( in case you need one ) and no worries they will run off either track power or over head. I don't have much info on On30 as it's not my thing, I can see what I can dig up though.Eric-A great big - greeting for you,I see that H&H baked you a speacial cake ,it's in teh shape of the x2000 as well. They are talented pastery chefs, they also make wonderfull choc puddingLars-Good to see you in this morning from the sunny south The NYC books and material are apreciated as always 5x for that.Keep the faith don't listen to Tom the Gints are gonna make soem noise yet I think H&H are helping with some forenzic testing on teh chips taken from the penthouse door ( their mom gave them a junior CSI kit for Christmas and they've been finger printing everyone since ) So far Boris Leon and Ruth have been ruled out, we'll keep you posted. Yes I do hope everyone rememberd birthday three for Our Place in april, everyone needs to buy at least a round that day Shane-Interesting KCS pasenger info sir thanks for sharing.It is amazing how one falls into teh unexpected at the hobby shop once in a while isn't it.I see that Ron and Mike were both in today as well, nice to see both you gents. Boris is ahppy too as he gets to ring the bells each time a new face comes in. Everyone's new to him as his short term memory is... well short.I haven't purused the urls Mike dropped off yet but shall later on today. Ron take her easy don't wrench the newly repaired back.No worries about yoru lack of travels we are all eher for teh love of trains model and real so fear not, there's always a stoll by the bar for you. Dan-Yes we saved the one G car set a two car unit. Some of the clones that were built by Hawker Sydeley in Thunder Bay are still on the TTC.These were built to the same specs and dimentions as the G cars but were built of Aluminum instead of steel. The serviving clones aer all in work train service in the subway though and are not used for paying opassengers. We did unfortunatly have a repainting of the G cars in december, they recieved a three foot high blue and white "tagging" by some young "artists" along the length of both cars. the culprits have yet to be found no lilley will they be . It wouldn't at all supprise me if the Dome you road in on the ONR might have been an ex B&O piece. All the equipment the Northlander uses has been bought second and third hand by the railroad.Rob DL - UK Member sinceAugust 2006 280 posts Posted by DL - UK on Monday, January 14, 2008 12:06 PM Hello Tom and all inPint of Harvey's Bitter please.B& O - strata dome car interior looks rather like the Dome Car used on the Ontario Northland trip I took to Moosonee (in terms of the outline of the window design fore and aft).1st class transatlantic fares are not gonna be cheap - I think the problem is that UK - US fares are only cheap on the routes where charter operators work - plenty of them to Canada because of the historic links (no doubt held up by the way they respected those men in red coast back in the day!!) and the only US routes seem to me to be to Florida (for Disney) and sometimes to New York. Appreciate your point about the currency situation too - not helpful, although it is why I'm wondering about a 2008 trip to NY City as I have the offer of some accommodation there. Your point is well made - and taken on board!Maybe your US AF travel options could be a runner. Gotta be better than Cattle Class in scheduled! Mind you a trip on the Empire Builder sounds a good plan to me!Pete - are you thinking of crossing the Pond in 2008?Thanks for the e-mail for Backtrack Pete - I'll drop him a line even though I've not read the magazine with the page ref for that Silver Princess article. Will be good to know if they turn up any decent info. I take it you will watch out for it if you get another edition of Backtrack - but I guess that is dependant on your UK contacts?Bluebell is OK for shed looking, but not the real workshop area (like GCR) - it is more an undercover area where out of action steam locos are stored that you can walk through - so you can get close up - but not quite the atmosphere of the GCR shed where you are walking amongst the area where they are doing the work - sort of next best thing though!Nice German pics by the way!Rob - nice pic of a TTC G car - I admit I had wondered if any had survived (or indeed if any were still on the TTC) - nice you got some although my understanding is you have had vandal problems recently in respect of these cars (or have I misunderstood the situation?).Eric - Nene Valley Railway UK, stock lists: http://www.nvr.org.uk/stock/Good to read your memories of the X2000 revenue service runs (complete with cab visits!) Happy Birthday wishes are in order it would appear!Allan - good to see you! Like wise for Lars and Ron!)CM3 - interesting read on the KCS - no comments but I enjoyed it!Mike - enjoyed that pic of the Silver Link leaving London Kings Cross.CheerioDL wanswheel Member sinceNovember 2005 4,190 posts Posted by wanswheel on Monday, January 14, 2008 11:32 AM Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the houseEric, have a very and many happy returns. Thanks for X2 and for your great disposition.CM3, your writers are back, wonderful.Ron, keep us posted on what to expect if we're lucky.I better put a train, the Silver Link Johnny Podreshttp://pro.corbis.com/images/U1091735.jpg?size=67&uid={de4a11c8-61b3-4829-b581-d3aa5605a507}http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1091780A.jpg?size=67&uid={5762e36b-92f5-4879-a193-9e202e66f13f}http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1294018INP.jpg?size=67&uid={bc442439-b181-4f3c-ac4e-8e5d9db0a2d8}http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1294022INP.jpg?size=67&uid={d9cff943-f005-4330-814e-eed3c8b907de}http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1091822.jpg?size=67&uid={20122032-f34b-4795-9b9b-41f1adeb7acb}http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1310447INP.jpg?size=67&uid={4136747b-1fec-434b-8a77-06a2773579e9}Mike coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, January 14, 2008 8:34 AM Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Cold here this a.m. with just a skiff of snow, which always makes the back roads interesting. Gas is at $3.19.First off - Happy Birthday, Eric! Also, many thanks for your "first-hand" story as well. It was most enjoyable to read of your experiences.Pete was in with comments and picturesRob - Interesting shot of G car and I appreciated your hobby store anecdote. It's always the way, you know? Allan stopped by with comments and observations - good to hear from you!Lars - Yes, they did beat the hated Dallases. Now it's on to Green Bay. I am afraid to look at the weather forecast for that part of the world. Nice to see that I have most of the NYC items you posted along with the New Haven book from your previous post.DD1 visited - I hope you will continue to get better.OSP sent along a lot of items including a fine picture of the "Cap." I was channel surfing the other evening and came across a program title "Extreme Alaska" on the National Geographic Channel. They repeat stuff endlessly so I am sure it will show up again if you have not seen it. Thanks also for the list of dome car names. Good looking movies as well. ‘National Treasure" is a favorite among the younger set at the house. BTW, I think we should hoist a tumbler of the good stuff to the memory of Johnny Podres. Today's offering is the first part of what I found out about KCS passenger service in 1950. As I said earlier, I'll post it gradually so we don't have a data dump. This first part is an intro to the KCS in 1950 and covers trains 205/206 and "Shreveporter" service.Kansas City Southern Passenger Service - 1950 - Part OneThe Kansas City Southern (KCS), in 1950, ran straight north and south between Kansas City, MO and Shreveport, LA. Three short branch lines operated off of this north-south line of the KCS. One line ran from McCurtain, OK to a point between Spiro and Panama, OK. The second branch operated from Ft. Smith, AR to Poteau, OK, and the third line between Heavener, OK and Foster, AR.The KCS split into three parts at Shreveport. One line ran west to Dallas. A second line ran southeast from Shreveport to New Orleans via Alexandria and Baton Rouge. The north-south line, mentioned above, continued south to Beaumont, TX with a short connecting line from Beaumont to Port Arthur.East of the north-south line KCS operated a line between Hope, AR, and Alexandria, LA. A piece of track between Shreveport and Minden afforded east-west access between these segments of the railroad.Trackage between Shreveport and Dallas was freight only and prospective riders between Heavener and Forester were warned that service between these two points was "irregular."KCS provided extensive service over most of the rest of its lines.Trains 205 and 206Unnamed trains 205 and 206 ran between Minden and Shreveport. A study of the timetable reveals that this daily operation was probably covered by one set of equipment. Train 206 departed Shreveport at 12:45 p.m. with a 1:42 p.m. arrival at Minden. Train 205 left Minden at 3:30 p.m. and was back in Shreveport at 4:25 p.m."Shreveporter"Train 3, the "Shreveporter," departed Hope at 4:30 a.m. and reached Shreveport three hours later. It carried coaches between Hope and Shreveport. Train 3 also carried a 14 roomette/4 double bedroom sleeper en route to Shreveport from St. Louis. This car was handed off from MP 31, the "Sunshine Special," to KCS 3 at Hope. MP 31 operated between St. Louis and San Antonio/Houston. It featured an ever-changing consist with a bewildering variety of setout sleepers, "short" coaches (some listed in the timetable as "divided" cars), and dining service along various segments of the route. Train 4 left Shreveport at 5:00 p.m. with an 8:10 p.m. arrival at Hope. This was a coaches only run as the Shreveport-St. Louis Pullman traveled north on a different route.Last, in honor of Eric's birthday, I received a transmission from High Atop Majestic Mt. Mentor. As near as I can tell, it is a public service announcement from the Mentor Emergency Service Squad (MESS) - govern yourselves accordingly, folks.The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a medical alert about a highly contagious, potentially dangerous virus that is transmitted orally, by hand, and even electronically. This virus is called Weary Overload Recreational Killer (WORK). If you receive WORK from your boss, any of your colleagues, or anyone else via any means whatsoever - DO NOT TOUCH IT! This virus will wipe out your private life completely. If you should come into contact with WORK you should immediately leave the premises. Take two good friends to the nearest grocery store and purchase one or both of the antidotes - Work Isolating Neutralizer Extract (WINE) and Bothersome Employer Elimination Rebooter (BEER). Take the antidote repeatedly until WORK has been completely eliminated from your system. Work safe Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 14, 2008 8:25 AM Good day Tom and all at Our place. Breakfast or a drink on me. Just dropped by to wish Eric a very happy birthday as he begins the best part of life and the most meaningful. Sorry I haven't been able to visit lately. I'm on a two week treatment for my back which includes Demerol and muscle relaxers. The first to kill the pain the latter to relax the back muscles. The pain is pretty much gone now. The problem with reducing pain is, if you don't feel the pain, you tend to ignore the muscle repair. I just have to work on the muscles. Because of this, I haven't been able to spend much time at the computer. I'm mostly lying down in bed and when sitting, can't do that for long. Of the little I've been able to view at our place, it looks like much great material from the patrons. I also realize that most of the patrons are well traveled and can relate their experiences better than I. I really don't have much to contribute as I'm not a frequent traveler. Chile is about the only place I'll be going to so between that and progress on the model, there won't be much from me. I've hit a few snags on the model, but little by little, I've overcome them. I blame the back problems with the snags as I'm rushing and make more mistakes. I'll just have to wait until I'm better to resume building. I'm just making sketches and thinking about little details while I rest. Edit LoveDomes Member sinceJanuary 2006 From: northeast U.S. 1,225 posts Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, January 14, 2008 7:54 AM Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!Ruth my deAH, let's have a round of CHEER on Da Manager! It's BIRTHDAY GREETINGS to our friend Eric! And MANY more, mate! 5- Salute to ya! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! Wudja believe Put those "boys" to rest, but it wasn't easy, huh I didn't think it was a particularly "good" game, but loved the outcome. Eli had me squirming more than a few times. <geesh> But it' the final score that counts! JINTS WON! On to Green Bay ‘n who knows what might happen! Yeah, I kinda wondAHd how many guyz would REMEMBER that the 12th of the month represents an anniversary for "Our" Place. None did. It used to be a "big deal" 'round here, but as with lotsa other things, that too has gone by the boards. Let's REMEMBER that April 12th is the THIRD YEAR ANNIVERSARY for our favorite Watering Hole by the Wayside! Loved that dome submission from Da Bossman! That's a real "keepAH" ‘n should be copied. I'm gonna see if it will "come out" on Phil's color copier. <grin> Nice work, Cap'n Tom! Good flicks at the Emporium - and you're right about the Bourne Euro trains stuff. Some really fine shots! My Mrs. "loves" the creep! <grin>Good seeing Allan from Kiwi-land - Eric from the desert - Rob from cold ‘n windy Ontario ‘n of course Da Bossman ovAH the weekend! Also a fine "goodbye" post from Wolfman Pete on Friday - do you evAH stay HOME????? Yes, "someone" was screwing ‘round with the entryway to the Penthouse Suite ‘n we've got our "force" involved as Inspector Clueless ‘n Mr. Doyle have taken the "case." <uh oh> Good to see our Assistant Mgr is on top of things . . . IGNORANCE must surely be "bliss" for some. Anyone notice a "used to be" on our forum?? A guy who was given all kinds of attention 'n accolades from our guyz, then just disappeared only to return again ELSEWHERE. <triple barf> Can't stay too long, have another round of appointments to keep ‘n the distances between ‘em are most unsettling. <arrrrrgggggghhhhhhh> Got a few more covAHs from the Larsman Mobile . . . then I'm off for a day or more. The New York Central Railroad - A History in Advertising - 1940-56New York Central's MercuryNew York Central and Trains of the FutureNew York Central's Great Steel Fleet - 1948-67New York Central's Lightweight Passenger Cars, Trains & Travel Ruth, I'm working on that loooooooooong weekend! siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Monday, January 14, 2008 5:50 AM <personal foto>A smile to begin the week! Slump? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hitting.<A Yogi-ism!>G'day Gents! HAPPY 65th BIRTHDAY ERIC! January 14th (Eric - 65) OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone. THAT day has rolled ‘round again - it's MONDAY at the Bar by the Ballast! Time to fill up those coffee mugs, grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! Couldn't be more pleased with the NFL playoff results! Giants beat those Cowboys! That gives the Packers a great shot at the Super Bowl <sorry, Lars 'n CM3 Shane!> Patriots are 17-0 and Indy bit the dust. Comments from the Proprietor:Remember when The 12th of the month used to MEAN something at the Saloon by the Siding!* * * * *Tragedy strikes with little warning: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2008/01/12/nb-crash.html* * * * *Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Saturday - Jan 12th:Page 168 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:57 PM: Really appreciate the info regarding NZ passenger rail service! If I recollect correctly, methinks we asked you about this shortly after you became a customer AND you came thru! Anyway, in reading your material, perhaps what I read reflected experiences on the Overlander <come to think of it, that does "ring a bell">. Links of interest as well. Five to our Resident Downunder NZ Kiwi! My bride came up with an idea the other day that rekindled a thought or three . . . As a U.S. military retiree, we're eligible to fly with the Air Force pretty much anywhere they have bases or regular "stops" ‘round the globe. The two of us could wind up in New Zealand, for example. The problem with it is that one cannot "count on" schedules nor getting seats. So, it's a "catch as can" operation for retired folks - as I've been led to believe. We have rather "narrow" windows of opportunity when it comes to vacation - all built ‘round her time away from <the> university AND the other MAJOR consideration is leaving Juneau behind for long periods of time. The latter just ain't gonna happen . . . Anyway, it's an OPTION for perhaps ten days or so, which includes the travel. Wonder if we could get "booked" in a stealth bomber Hmmmmmmmm. <uh oh>And who in this world doesn't know of SIR EDMUND HILLARY [?}RIP.Always look forward to seein' ya at the bar - the Tui's "help" a lot too! Page 168 - Eric (EricX2000) at 8:20 PM: Remember when 65 sounded "so far off" when it came to birthdays I guess the idea is to not dwell on it - everything living ages! Some do it much better than others! You don't look a day older than . . . . Ask ‘n ye shall receive! Many THANX for that fine offering on the X2000 Revenue Service! Explains a lot ‘n helps in understanding so much more - in particular, an OPPORTUNITY missed by the U.S. to modernize passenger rail service. <arrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh>You, Sir, are a veritable gold mine of knowledge when it comes to experience ‘n knowledge regarding what we love to talk about at this bar - Classic Trains! The nice "thing" is that you bring an aspect of the conversation to our bar that I'll bet isn't fou Happy Railroading! Siberianmo trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:34 PM Hi Leon fogured that I would,pop in and make sure the floors were swept and waxed for the morning crowd. I noticed that the door to the penthouse suite has had some strange scratching damage done to it , almost like someone ws trying to use spike to gain entry. anyone know hmmm might have to call the good inspector.Tom-Couple heavy movies this week, I hope the temperance legue in the Mentor Villiage will allow them to be shown all week. both are good flicks though Figured I would drop off a couple pictures to brighten up a soggy wet day. some deisel oddities for Chris and everyone else to enjoy.C&NW AS16M a rebuild only Dr FranKenstein and perhaps Boris could loveA CF7 in Florida another ugly duckling of sorts.An old Wabash shop switcher that lives at the Elgin county Musuem in St ThomasA 44t switcher in Florida that got a Caterpiller motor rebuildAn old Brill interurban that had it's electric guts switched out for an eight cylinder allison gas motor ( used on a Florida dinner train )enjoy See everyone MondayRob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:03 PM "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs!Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . January 13th thru 19th: National Treasure (2004) Starring: Nicolas Cage, Diane Kruger, Justin Bartha, Sean Bean & Jon Voight - and - The Bourne Supremacy (2004) Starring: Matt Damon, Franka Potente, Brian Cox, Julia Stiles & Karl Urban. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Gents Without Cents (1944). National Treasure (2004) PLOT SUMMARY: Like a Hardy Boys mystery on steroids, National Treasure offers popcorn thrills and enough boyish charm to overcome its rampant silliness. Although it was roundly criticized as a poor man's rip-off of Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Da Vinci Code, it's entertaining on its own ludicrous terms, and Nicolas Cage proves once again that one actor's infectious enthusiasm can compensate for a multitude of movie sins. The contrived plot involves Cage's present-day quest for the ancient treasure of the Knights Templar, kept secret through the ages by Freemasons past and present. Finding the treasure requires the theft of the Declaration of Independence (there are crucial treasure clues on the back, of course!), so you can add "caper comedy" to this Jerry Bruckheimer production's multi-genre appeal. Nobody will ever accuse director Jon Turtletaub of artistic ambition, but you've got to admit he serves up an enjoyable dose of PG-rated entertainment, full of musty clues, skeletons, deep tunnels, and harmless adventure in the old-school tradition. It's a load of hokum, but it's fun hokum, and that makes all the difference. --Jeff Shannon <from: amazon.com> The Bourne Supremacy (2004) Happy Railroading! 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Good morning Captain Tom and gentlemen!!
Leon, my friend, just a cheese burger please. No, i'll have a Tui!
Thank you all of you for all Birthday wishes! 65 means I am senior if I like it or not. But I like it even though I feel more like 27. I think the Packers will win the Super Bowl this year! Rob – You are really bringing good news! I have to make it to Molly’s as soon as possible and see if the brunette is there! Interesting pictures of those diesels! That Brill loks very much like the one below.
Brill Model-55 Combination CarDid you see my Birthday cake? If not, here it is.
Mmmm!!!!Thanks for part #3 of the Toronto Transportation Comission! Very interesting!! Nine different systems controlled by four different companies must have been a mess. Tom – Thank you for your very kind words! It is always interesting to learn about trains from a technical and historical point of view and if I, at the same time, can tell about things I know makes me feel even better. So you think the brunette went to the Second Class Saloon? Hmm, I have info that she is at Molly’s. Two, for me unknown, movies that seem to be very good! Looking forward to see them!I don’t look a day older than what? Twentyseven? Switzerland, a country for train freaks! You can go any place in Switzerland by train! Nice poster, Jura - Simplon Railway. The Simplon tunnel is something else, goes round and round in circles inside the mountain.Lars – Thanks for the round! Sometimes it is good to have a birthday and get a lot of stuff for free. Got a free desert at Cracker Barrel today. I am sorry to say that the end of the season for the Jints is coming soon! They will play their last game against the Packers! Go Packers!!!Nice New York Central book covers! Would be interesting to read the Great Steel Fleet! Ron – Thank you for the Birthday wishes! I agree, it feels like the best part of life is about to start! You better take it easy and get your muscles and back in order. CM3 – Thank you! Glad you like my little “thing” about the revenue service. Interesting reading about KCS and their Passenger service! Thank you for the medical alert! I had that Weary Overload Recreational Killer disease for years but feel much better nowadays. Mike – Thanks for the Birthday wishes! I noticed that you called the train X2 and not X2000! That is correct, it is class X2. There is no class X2000. X2000 is a service concept. But for some reason Amtrak introduced the train as X2000 during the time they leased it. I have seen the picture you are posting before, but I can’t remember what the occasion was. I just found part of the answer, the photo is from London Kings Cross station. DL – Thank you for the link to Nene Valley Railway! I found two Swedish locomotives, a class B and a class S. Pete – I had the 100,000th post!?!? Bring the brunette! I am ready for the reunion! Thanks for the Birthday wishes! Sorry you got tweeted. Yes, the X2000 performed extremely well both during all tests and in revenue service!
Good evening Leon, wow a twenty yadr garbage container almost full to the brim outside of the shed.I see that the Mentor Hazmat folks are spraying down the contents as the boys dig deeper into the bowels of the shed. It almsot seems "TARDIS like" I think daboosman should tweet more often Anyhow I think I'll haev a nice draft of keith's and I'll leave a couple bucks for our worhty shed cleaners so they can enjoy a round or two,once they've cleaned off and gotten out of their "white suits"
Fergie- Belated greetings for you as well sir,sorry to ehar about your "job" but at least you had Pete's sence of humour to keep you company while you dug and dug and dug.... etc.
I'm feeling outnumbered I only have one CNR caboose they do look great though,the Mike's also a beaut. I wonder what you may have to clean once Lisa discovers it though
Yup the first CLRV order was actually 1978-79 and the ALRV's are mid eighties builds, all haev ahd two or three complete rebuilds so it's almost time.Amazingly of the 300 CLRV's purchased 298 are still in service
Pete- Make sure the Hazmat boys hose you guys off before you come back into the bar. remeber a couple pints are on me to ease your pain. I haven't got the DNA reports back from H&H yet so don't go skipping the country quite yet
Thanks for the link to the tyneside museum
Do look at the Bachman site , I noticed tonight that they had all the painted examples pictures up. I could see you happily running the St Louis one.They do run well, had one over at Heather's dad's tonight and man does it creep almost tie to tie. the motor is mounted below the floor as well so it has an interior begging for people to be put in the seats.
Allan-It was a shame about Edmond Hillery, I'm glad to hear that he's getting the national recognition he deserves I have a few more good shots of some diesel wierdies I'll see if I can't find a few more for you to enjoy,I have some neat traction oddballs as well. Street railway work equipment has always been shall we say unique.
Tom-Nice blast from the past on the Swiss railways great to see some TEE equipment in it's native land.
By the way I haven't been able to get that Bathurst story to come up , not sure why a computer gremlin I'm assuming. A derailment
A pint of Bathams please LEON.
ROB Glad you enjoyed Alan's German photos Thanks for the info on W28 and the photo of the G car.
What a great find in the model shop, I will have a look at the Bachmann web site for the photos.
Many thanks for those interesting diesels photos and the history of the TTC part #3.It is good to see the CLRV streetcars has some of style of the earlier streetcars.
I have nothing to fear from Inspector Clueless I wasn't there Guv.
ERIC Yes Friday was a very busy day at the bar I was hoping you could get the 3,333th post; I did try to get another reunion with the brunette for you.( and see what happened to me)
Glad you enjoyed Alan's photos and thanks for the big-boy cab photo.
Many thanks for the very interesting X2000 in Revenue Service and the photos. It seemed the train performed well and drew in extra passengers, what a shame the X2000 was not bought and used in fleet service on the East Coast corridor.
ALLAN Yes it was a shame Silver Link was not saved, It certainly deserved a place in preservation for the work it done when it was first built on the Silver Jubilee and setting a new speed record at the time. In 1988 A4 Bittern was painted in the silver livery and was numbered 2509 and named Silver Link. It was lined up with the Garter blue Mallard and Sir Nigel Gresley outside the museum at York. For a while 2509, although not in working order was at the North Tyneside railway museum where I saw her. A link to the museum
http://www.ntsra.org.uk/museum.html
60019 has recently returned to steam and is in BR Brunswick Green and due to work on the main line working specials.
Glad you enjoyed Alan's photos. Many thanks for the links to the New Zealand railways.
Yes Sir Ed Hillary was a credit to New Zealand, no only conquering Everest but his great humility and good works made him very special.
LARS Well done to the Giants, what a shame it can't be the Giants and the Packers in the Super Bowl still should be a good game next week.
At least I can't be blame for the attempted forced entry to the Penthouse Suite, as I was not around, personally I think it was the brunette looking for Eric.
Many thanks for the NYC covers from the Larsman Mobile. Love the one on the NYC Mercury cover.
RON Real sorry to hear your back is giving you so much trouble. It is always good when you are able to call in the bar I always like to read about the railways in Chile.
CM3 Many thanks for Part 1 of the KCS Passenger service from 1950. I don't think I have heard the term ‘Short Coaches' before. I see the KCS and Northern Southern F units were in Meridian MISS for a railfest recently.
Good advice to Eric from the Mentor Emergency Service Squad.
MIKE Many thanks for that great photo of Silver Link leaving London King's Cross on the Silver Jubilee express to Newcastle On Tyne. By the number of people on the platforms it could have been the first run of the express.
DL Yes I should be over to England this year, when I get the dates sorted out I will be sure to let you know and we can meet up with Alan and have a few pints
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, Tui`s all round for the crew please!
Eric. Hearty congratulations on your birthday mate, to YOU! Have a GOOD ONE, take it easy on all those GOODIES. Thanks for the nice write up and great pics on the X2000 revenue services in the US.
Rob. A nice lot of interesting pics of those diesel oddities, have saved them all on file. Nice continuation of the TTC story in Pt 3.
Lars. A welcome visit from the Larsman on the Key`s, and a nice selection of covAHS of the NYC from the Larsman Mobile, GREAT!
Ron. Nice to read your back pain is pretty well gone now, hope you get back to your model engine work soon.
CM3. A really informative write up on the KCS passenger services, very interesting thanks. Now i`m retired it looks as if i`m immune from that WORK virus!
Mike. Nice to see you in again so soon, thanks for the great pic of the Silver Link, my favourite train and loco! I was one month old when the Silver Link first ran in 1935 so that pic held a lot of nostalgia for me. Nice links to those pics of Johnny Podres.
Dan. Good to see you in again.
Pete. Nice to see you in on a quick visit.
Fergie. Many belated greetings mate, hope you had a good ONE! Nice pics of your MESS RR, is that a shot of your new loco?
Tom. Glad you enjoyed the info on the NZ passenger services, I thought it would have been the Overlander trip that was the cause for complaint. OnTrack have a really tough job of upgrading all that big lack of track maintainance over the years, at least something is being done about it now. It would be really great if you could get one of those MATS flights, the USAF flies into Christchurch on a regular basis for the Antartic base project, just MAYBE? We had a similar scheme in the Brit forces called "Indulgence flights" but only for serving personnel. Nice selection of flics for the weekend, had the Bourne Identity DVD out a few weeks ago, a great action movie with great sound effects. Nice Swiss Federal Railways write up and pics, see we were both in at the same time!
All of New Zealand is in mourning for Sir Ed Hillary, he prefered being called Ed, he is a Kiwi icon and a great example of the Kiwi "can do" attitude, they are having a full State funeral for him in Auckland on Tuesday week, he was the only living New Zealander who`s face was printed on a NZ banknote, the $5 note. May he "Everest"!
See ya, Allan
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #66
<A form of this was initially Posted on 21 Jan 2006, Page 231 of the Original Thread>
Here's something to enjoy regarding the SWISS FEDERAL RAILROADS from a 1933 advertisement in my personal collection.
A Treasure-House of Scenery Behind the Towering Alps Switzerland - fairyland of azure lakes, snowy peaks and quaint century-old villages. Every golden hour spent in this fascinating land remains a precious memory throughout a lifetime. Visit it NOW . . . such an opportunity may never come again. Costs everywhere are sweepingly reduced. Swiss thoughtfulness provides a unique railroad ticket on which you travel as you please - change your route at will - with rates adjusted to suit all tastes. You will include in your trip the famous St. Gothard route with ZURICH and lovely LUCERNE, cradle of the Swiss Confederation and unique spot for excursions by boat and rail. LUGANO-LOCARNO, floral paradise of the Swiss Italian lake district and on the Simplon Line distinguished LAUSSANE-OUCHY, international center for education and travel . . . Loetshberg Line on the BERNESE OBERLAND with the quaint old towns of BERNE, capital of Switzerland . . . and THUN-INTERLOCKEN, for that spectacular trip . . . on the JUNGFRAUJOCH. Write for Packet NG-1 to the Official Agency of the SWISS FEDERAL RAILROADS, 475 Fifth Avenue, New York City.
SWITZERLAND
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Switzerland: Crystal Panoramic Express (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)
Switzerland TEE, built by (Deutsche Bahn AG), Germany (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)
Enjoy! Tom
SPECIAL for FERGIE!
And a belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY to YOU, Sir Mariner! However, you are NOT part of our "Birthday Watch List" <given ample opportunity to join by "offline Email," I should add!> and therefore NOT entitled to all the PERKS 'n STUFF associated with being an "Our" Place Natal Day Celebrant! <sorry>
I do think there's a pony Keg of Keiths lager with your name on it 'round here somewhere . . .
Now to the BEST PART! <tweeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeet> You have violated Rule #39 - Posting model or toy trains material on a day OTHER THAN Wednesday - or - Saturday! <uh oh> Punishment: Assist Bar Chandler Pete with the thorough cleaning of Boris' Shed. <ugh>
Laff 'n the world laff's with you - frown 'n you're all ALONE, Mate! <grin>
Oh yeah - thanx for the visit - love the steamer 'n trailing cabooses <can't say "cabeese" <ugh>! <grin>
Tom
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and Sundry
Eric but I beat ya to it as mine was yesterday... No I'm not bragging I'm lamenting I don't know if it's the flu bug in the house, the beer (Kieth's on Tap from the local German Ale house) the wine or the rusty nails (plural)... Had so much planned for the day
siberianmo wrote:You Sir are now OH-FISH-UL-LEE <tweeted> for exceeding authority 'n misinterpreting the "count"! Rules #63 'n #87. To the Shed with ye . . . <uh oh>
You Sir are now OH-FISH-UL-LEE <tweeted> for exceeding authority 'n misinterpreting the "count"! Rules #63 'n #87. To the Shed with ye . . . <uh oh>
as to this I say...HA... HA HA... HAHAHA HAa
looks good on ya bud!
Trolley Boy: 30 years old?!? Oh you just aged me as I remember riding them when they first came out! Ohh that hurts
For me Birthday I got
Though Lisa doesn't know about the "Mike"
Later All
Fergie
Here Pete this one is on me. Hate to see a grown man cry. Tom can be awful hard on ya can't he!
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Afternoon again Ruth, could I get another Keith's, thank-you.
Pete-Nice to see you 100,000th post Ruth I think you had better cut off the bar chandler_BTW Pete the inmspector and his aids need to chat with you <uh oh > don't worry H&H won't hurt you much while they hog tie and finger print you
THE PRE_HISTORY O F THE TTC PART # 3
THE TORONTO TRANSORTATION COMMISSION 1921-1953
With four different companies controlling nine different systems , public transportation in Toronto was in utter chaos.The cost to the public for rides to work , and home, was becomming increasingly difficult to uphold, so something had to be done.Citizens exercised their voting franchise on Jan 1st 1920 and decided that all of Toronto's public transit systems should be placed under the direction of one orginization.By this vote the Toronto Transportaion Commission was created.
On Sept. 1, 1921 , the new commission took over all operations of the TRC and Civic Lines.It bought and introduced the new Peter Witt streetcars which were a complete improvement over any of the older cars still running.New routes were introduced,trackwork was heavily replaced and upgraded between 1921-23, and routes were aquiredf rom the TSR in 1923 and the T&YRR in 1927.Many of the Civic lines were extended and joined onto the old TRC lines enebling more system wide usage of turining loops, eliminating the need for most double ended cars.
Other improvements included the withdrawl of many of the older single truck car types and the old horse car trailers.The introduction of new Peter Witt trailers on the busy routes such as Collage and Yonge streets,and the upgrade of buildings ,loops, and finally teh building of a new state of the art repair centre at Bathurst street and Davenport road ( Hillcrest Shops ) allowed the replacement of the old worn out TRC shops at front and Frederick street.
In 1938 , the TTC was instrumental in the introduction of the new PCC car design,which in one fell swoop resigned all other streetcar designs to the past.During the war years, the TTC maintained it's fleet,ordered new PCC cars and introduced women to it's workforce for the first time. They hired on as operators and as shop workers.
In 1953 , The Metroploitan system of government ws introduced to Toronto and the Toronto Tansportation Commission, which had sole responsibility for city transportation metro area wide.The company was revamped into the Toronto Transit Commission and in 1954 they oppened the first subway line on Yonge street,which is the forerunner of the modern rapid transit systems in Cananda.
TORONTO TRANSIT COMMISSION 1954-PRESANT
In 1963 came the University Ave subway, followed by the Bloor-Danforth Lines. These replaced surface operations on these increasingly busier streets in 1966.The Spadinna extention was added in 1978 and Bloor -Danforth was extended twice in 1968 and in 1980.Extentions to the original Yonge line were completed in 1973-74.The newest "tube" is the Sheppard Ave line completed in 2002 and work is beginning on extending the University line down to the campus of York University scheduled for completion in 2012.The TTC also buiklt the Scarborough rapid Transit in the 80's and they are looking at a further $2B in light rail to finally extend rail corridors out of the city into Mississauga and hopefully the Pearson Airport. thes will be surface LRT type lines running in a dedicated streetcar only right of way similar to what is being done currently to the St Clair Ave line.
The TTC will still be an in city streetcar bus , subway system. At preasant replacement subway cars are comming from bombardeir to replace the oldest T and H series subway cars currently in use. New streetcars are being tendered for as well as the well tried CLRV's are now approachng 30 years old
An almost as new CLRV in the 1980's.
enjoy Rob
SPECIAL for PETE!
What in the world are you SMOKING or DRINKING?!?!?
100,000th Post???? Nope! I think you are speaking of visit . . . anyway, the Penthouse Suite is NOT YOURS to dole out nor is the brunette in town!
<triple geesh>
Good to have you back - I think! <groan>
A pint of Bathams please RUTH while I catch up on the posts over the weekend.
to ERIC on your 65th .
By my calculations I think it was you, Eric, who had the 100,000th post so a special prize of the Penthouse Suite and a reunion with the brunette would be OK.. I am still feeling guilty of doing the 3,333th post, so I am trying to help you out.
Pete.
Good afternoon Ruth, my don't you have a big smile on your face today.Anyway I think a great big roast beef on rye with all the usual fixings,oh and a Keith's to wsh her down with thank-you. Keep the change and here's a sack'o'coin for herr wurlitzer as well.
Tom-Well the trip on Amtrak to the wet northwest does not sound like too abd a second if the extremly north of the boarder trip does not work out. Heck it's a train trip over a few days,I'm sure you can deal with that ,<grin> Try not to stir up the natives too much if you go there, you know how liberals cry afterall
The trolley you swapped me is O scale, the little guy I bought is actually HO and a wonderfull running little guy too,I'm still shicked that someone made it. Takea look on bachman's website,key in Peter Witt in their search engine and the pics will come up of teh undec and the painted one's they are producing. Brooklyn and St Louis are two of the paint schemems thata er comming out ( in case you need one ) and no worries they will run off either track power or over head.
I don't have much info on On30 as it's not my thing, I can see what I can dig up though.
Eric-A great big - greeting for you,I see that H&H baked you a speacial cake ,it's in teh shape of the x2000 as well. They are talented pastery chefs, they also make wonderfull choc pudding
Lars-Good to see you in this morning from the sunny south The NYC books and material are apreciated as always 5x for that.Keep the faith don't listen to Tom the Gints are gonna make soem noise yet I think
H&H are helping with some forenzic testing on teh chips taken from the penthouse door ( their mom gave them a junior CSI kit for Christmas and they've been finger printing everyone since ) So far Boris Leon and Ruth have been ruled out, we'll keep you posted.
Yes I do hope everyone rememberd birthday three for Our Place in april, everyone needs to buy at least a round that day
Shane-Interesting KCS pasenger info sir thanks for sharing.It is amazing how one falls into teh unexpected at the hobby shop once in a while isn't it.
I see that Ron and Mike were both in today as well, nice to see both you gents. Boris is ahppy too as he gets to ring the bells each time a new face comes in. Everyone's new to him as his short term memory is... well short.
I haven't purused the urls Mike dropped off yet but shall later on today. Ron take her easy don't wrench the newly repaired back.No worries about yoru lack of travels we are all eher for teh love of trains model and real so fear not, there's always a stoll by the bar for you.
Dan-Yes we saved the one G car set a two car unit. Some of the clones that were built by Hawker Sydeley in Thunder Bay are still on the TTC.These were built to the same specs and dimentions as the G cars but were built of Aluminum instead of steel. The serviving clones aer all in work train service in the subway though and are not used for paying opassengers.
We did unfortunatly have a repainting of the G cars in december, they recieved a three foot high blue and white "tagging" by some young "artists" along the length of both cars. the culprits have yet to be found no lilley will they be .
It wouldn't at all supprise me if the Dome you road in on the ONR might have been an ex B&O piece. All the equipment the Northlander uses has been bought second and third hand by the railroad.
Pint of Harvey's Bitter please.
B& O - strata dome car interior looks rather like the Dome Car used on the Ontario Northland trip I took to Moosonee (in terms of the outline of the window design fore and aft).
1st class transatlantic fares are not gonna be cheap - I think the problem is that UK - US fares are only cheap on the routes where charter operators work - plenty of them to Canada because of the historic links (no doubt held up by the way they respected those men in red coast back in the day!!) and the only US routes seem to me to be to Florida (for Disney) and sometimes to New York. Appreciate your point about the currency situation too - not helpful, although it is why I'm wondering about a 2008 trip to NY City as I have the offer of some accommodation there. Your point is well made - and taken on board!
Maybe your US AF travel options could be a runner. Gotta be better than Cattle Class in scheduled! Mind you a trip on the Empire Builder sounds a good plan to me!
Pete - are you thinking of crossing the Pond in 2008?
Thanks for the e-mail for Backtrack Pete - I'll drop him a line even though I've not read the magazine with the page ref for that Silver Princess article. Will be good to know if they turn up any decent info. I take it you will watch out for it if you get another edition of Backtrack - but I guess that is dependant on your UK contacts?
Bluebell is OK for shed looking, but not the real workshop area (like GCR) - it is more an undercover area where out of action steam locos are stored that you can walk through - so you can get close up - but not quite the atmosphere of the GCR shed where you are walking amongst the area where they are doing the work - sort of next best thing though!
Nice German pics by the way!
Rob - nice pic of a TTC G car - I admit I had wondered if any had survived (or indeed if any were still on the TTC) - nice you got some although my understanding is you have had vandal problems recently in respect of these cars (or have I misunderstood the situation?).
Eric - Nene Valley Railway UK, stock lists: http://www.nvr.org.uk/stock/
Good to read your memories of the X2000 revenue service runs (complete with cab visits!) Happy Birthday wishes are in order it would appear!
Allan - good to see you! Like wise for Lars and Ron!)
CM3 - interesting read on the KCS - no comments but I enjoyed it!
Mike - enjoyed that pic of the Silver Link leaving London Kings Cross.
Cheerio
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Eric, have a very and many happy returns. Thanks for X2 and for your great disposition.
CM3, your writers are back, wonderful.
Ron, keep us posted on what to expect if we're lucky.
I better put a train, the Silver Link
Johnny Podres
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Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Cold here this a.m. with just a skiff of snow, which always makes the back roads interesting. Gas is at $3.19.
First off - Happy Birthday, Eric! Also, many thanks for your "first-hand" story as well. It was most enjoyable to read of your experiences.
Pete was in with comments and pictures
Rob - Interesting shot of G car and I appreciated your hobby store anecdote. It's always the way, you know?
Allan stopped by with comments and observations - good to hear from you!
Lars - Yes, they did beat the hated Dallases. Now it's on to Green Bay. I am afraid to look at the weather forecast for that part of the world. Nice to see that I have most of the NYC items you posted along with the New Haven book from your previous post.
DD1 visited - I hope you will continue to get better.
OSP sent along a lot of items including a fine picture of the "Cap." I was channel surfing the other evening and came across a program title "Extreme Alaska" on the National Geographic Channel. They repeat stuff endlessly so I am sure it will show up again if you have not seen it. Thanks also for the list of dome car names. Good looking movies as well. ‘National Treasure" is a favorite among the younger set at the house. BTW, I think we should hoist a tumbler of the good stuff to the memory of Johnny Podres.
Today's offering is the first part of what I found out about KCS passenger service in 1950. As I said earlier, I'll post it gradually so we don't have a data dump. This first part is an intro to the KCS in 1950 and covers trains 205/206 and "Shreveporter" service.
Kansas City Southern Passenger Service - 1950 - Part One
The Kansas City Southern (KCS), in 1950, ran straight north and south between Kansas City, MO and Shreveport, LA. Three short branch lines operated off of this north-south line of the KCS. One line ran from McCurtain, OK to a point between Spiro and Panama, OK. The second branch operated from Ft. Smith, AR to Poteau, OK, and the third line between Heavener, OK and Foster, AR.
The KCS split into three parts at Shreveport. One line ran west to Dallas. A second line ran southeast from Shreveport to New Orleans via Alexandria and Baton Rouge. The north-south line, mentioned above, continued south to Beaumont, TX with a short connecting line from Beaumont to Port Arthur.
East of the north-south line KCS operated a line between Hope, AR, and Alexandria, LA. A piece of track between Shreveport and Minden afforded east-west access between these segments of the railroad.
Trackage between Shreveport and Dallas was freight only and prospective riders between Heavener and Forester were warned that service between these two points was "irregular."
KCS provided extensive service over most of the rest of its lines.
Trains 205 and 206
Unnamed trains 205 and 206 ran between Minden and Shreveport. A study of the timetable reveals that this daily operation was probably covered by one set of equipment. Train 206 departed Shreveport at 12:45 p.m. with a 1:42 p.m. arrival at Minden. Train 205 left Minden at 3:30 p.m. and was back in Shreveport at 4:25 p.m.
"Shreveporter"
Train 3, the "Shreveporter," departed Hope at 4:30 a.m. and reached Shreveport three hours later. It carried coaches between Hope and Shreveport. Train 3 also carried a 14 roomette/4 double bedroom sleeper en route to Shreveport from St. Louis. This car was handed off from MP 31, the "Sunshine Special," to KCS 3 at Hope.
MP 31 operated between St. Louis and San Antonio/Houston. It featured an ever-changing consist with a bewildering variety of setout sleepers, "short" coaches (some listed in the timetable as "divided" cars), and dining service along various segments of the route.
Train 4 left Shreveport at 5:00 p.m. with an 8:10 p.m. arrival at Hope. This was a coaches only run as the Shreveport-St. Louis Pullman traveled north on a different route.
Last, in honor of Eric's birthday, I received a transmission from High Atop Majestic Mt. Mentor. As near as I can tell, it is a public service announcement from the Mentor Emergency Service Squad (MESS) - govern yourselves accordingly, folks.
The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a medical alert about a highly contagious, potentially dangerous virus that is transmitted orally, by hand, and even electronically. This virus is called Weary Overload Recreational Killer (WORK). If you receive WORK from your boss, any of your colleagues, or anyone else via any means whatsoever - DO NOT TOUCH IT! This virus will wipe out your private life completely. If you should come into contact with WORK you should immediately leave the premises. Take two good friends to the nearest grocery store and purchase one or both of the antidotes - Work Isolating Neutralizer Extract (WINE) and Bothersome Employer Elimination Rebooter (BEER). Take the antidote repeatedly until WORK has been completely eliminated from your system.
Good day Tom and all at Our place. Breakfast or a drink on me. Just dropped by to wish Eric a very happy birthday as he begins the best part of life and the most meaningful. Sorry I haven't been able to visit lately. I'm on a two week treatment for my back which includes Demerol and muscle relaxers. The first to kill the pain the latter to relax the back muscles. The pain is pretty much gone now. The problem with reducing pain is, if you don't feel the pain, you tend to ignore the muscle repair. I just have to work on the muscles. Because of this, I haven't been able to spend much time at the computer. I'm mostly lying down in bed and when sitting, can't do that for long. Of the little I've been able to view at our place, it looks like much great material from the patrons. I also realize that most of the patrons are well traveled and can relate their experiences better than I. I really don't have much to contribute as I'm not a frequent traveler. Chile is about the only place I'll be going to so between that and progress on the model, there won't be much from me.
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Ruth my deAH, let's have a round of CHEER on Da Manager! It's BIRTHDAY GREETINGS to our friend Eric! And MANY more, mate! 5- Salute to ya!
JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! Wudja believe Put those "boys" to rest, but it wasn't easy, huh I didn't think it was a particularly "good" game, but loved the outcome. Eli had me squirming more than a few times. <geesh> But it' the final score that counts! JINTS WON! On to Green Bay ‘n who knows what might happen!
Yeah, I kinda wondAHd how many guyz would REMEMBER that the 12th of the month represents an anniversary for "Our" Place. None did. It used to be a "big deal" 'round here, but as with lotsa other things, that too has gone by the boards. Let's REMEMBER that April 12th is the THIRD YEAR ANNIVERSARY for our favorite Watering Hole by the Wayside!
Loved that dome submission from Da Bossman! That's a real "keepAH" ‘n should be copied. I'm gonna see if it will "come out" on Phil's color copier. <grin> Nice work, Cap'n Tom!
Good flicks at the Emporium - and you're right about the Bourne Euro trains stuff. Some really fine shots! My Mrs. "loves" the creep! <grin>
Good seeing Allan from Kiwi-land - Eric from the desert - Rob from cold ‘n windy Ontario ‘n of course Da Bossman ovAH the weekend! Also a fine "goodbye" post from Wolfman Pete on Friday - do you evAH stay HOME?????
Yes, "someone" was screwing ‘round with the entryway to the Penthouse Suite ‘n we've got our "force" involved as Inspector Clueless ‘n Mr. Doyle have taken the "case." <uh oh> Good to see our Assistant Mgr is on top of things . . .
IGNORANCE must surely be "bliss" for some. Anyone notice a "used to be" on our forum?? A guy who was given all kinds of attention 'n accolades from our guyz, then just disappeared only to return again ELSEWHERE. <triple barf>
Got a few more covAHs from the Larsman Mobile . . . then I'm off for a day or more.
The New York Central Railroad - A History in Advertising - 1940-56
New York Central's Mercury
New York Central and Trains of the Future
New York Central's Great Steel Fleet - 1948-67
New York Central's Lightweight Passenger Cars, Trains & Travel
A smile to begin the week!
Slump? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hitting.
<A Yogi-ism!>
HAPPY 65th BIRTHDAY ERIC!
January 14th (Eric - 65)
OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone.
THAT day has rolled ‘round again - it's MONDAY at the Bar by the Ballast! Time to fill up those coffee mugs, grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Couldn't be more pleased with the NFL playoff results! Giants beat those Cowboys! That gives the Packers a great shot at the Super Bowl <sorry, Lars 'n CM3 Shane!> Patriots are 17-0 and Indy bit the dust.
Comments from the Proprietor:
Remember when The 12th of the month used to MEAN something at the Saloon by the Siding!
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Tragedy strikes with little warning: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2008/01/12/nb-crash.html
Saturday - Jan 12th:
Page 168 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:57 PM: Really appreciate the info regarding NZ passenger rail service! If I recollect correctly, methinks we asked you about this shortly after you became a customer AND you came thru! Anyway, in reading your material, perhaps what I read reflected experiences on the Overlander <come to think of it, that does "ring a bell">. Links of interest as well. Five to our Resident Downunder NZ Kiwi!
My bride came up with an idea the other day that rekindled a thought or three . . . As a U.S. military retiree, we're eligible to fly with the Air Force pretty much anywhere they have bases or regular "stops" ‘round the globe. The two of us could wind up in New Zealand, for example. The problem with it is that one cannot "count on" schedules nor getting seats. So, it's a "catch as can" operation for retired folks - as I've been led to believe. We have rather "narrow" windows of opportunity when it comes to vacation - all built ‘round her time away from <the> university AND the other MAJOR consideration is leaving Juneau behind for long periods of time. The latter just ain't gonna happen . . . Anyway, it's an OPTION for perhaps ten days or so, which includes the travel. Wonder if we could get "booked" in a stealth bomber Hmmmmmmmm. <uh oh>
And who in this world doesn't know of SIR EDMUND HILLARY [?}RIP.
Always look forward to seein' ya at the bar - the Tui's "help" a lot too!
Page 168 - Eric (EricX2000) at 8:20 PM: Remember when 65 sounded "so far off" when it came to birthdays I guess the idea is to not dwell on it - everything living ages! Some do it much better than others! You don't look a day older than . . . .
Ask ‘n ye shall receive! Many THANX for that fine offering on the X2000 Revenue Service! Explains a lot ‘n helps in understanding so much more - in particular, an OPPORTUNITY missed by the U.S. to modernize passenger rail service. <arrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh>
You, Sir, are a veritable gold mine of knowledge when it comes to experience ‘n knowledge regarding what we love to talk about at this bar - Classic Trains! The nice "thing" is that you bring an aspect of the conversation to our bar that I'll bet isn't fou
Hi Leon fogured that I would,pop in and make sure the floors were swept and waxed for the morning crowd. I noticed that the door to the penthouse suite has had some strange scratching damage done to it , almost like someone ws trying to use spike to gain entry. anyone know hmmm might have to call the good inspector.
Tom-Couple heavy movies this week, I hope the temperance legue in the Mentor Villiage will allow them to be shown all week. both are good flicks though Figured I would drop off a couple pictures to brighten up a soggy wet day.
some deisel oddities for Chris and everyone else to enjoy.
C&NW AS16M a rebuild only Dr FranKenstein and perhaps Boris could love
A CF7 in Florida another ugly duckling of sorts.
An old Wabash shop switcher that lives at the Elgin county Musuem in St Thomas
A 44t switcher in Florida that got a Caterpiller motor rebuild
An old Brill interurban that had it's electric guts switched out for an eight cylinder allison gas motor ( used on a Florida dinner train )
enjoy See everyone Monday
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs!
Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
National Treasure (2004)
PLOT SUMMARY: Like a Hardy Boys mystery on steroids, National Treasure offers popcorn thrills and enough boyish charm to overcome its rampant silliness. Although it was roundly criticized as a poor man's rip-off of Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Da Vinci Code, it's entertaining on its own ludicrous terms, and Nicolas Cage proves once again that one actor's infectious enthusiasm can compensate for a multitude of movie sins. The contrived plot involves Cage's present-day quest for the ancient treasure of the Knights Templar, kept secret through the ages by Freemasons past and present. Finding the treasure requires the theft of the Declaration of Independence (there are crucial treasure clues on the back, of course!), so you can add "caper comedy" to this Jerry Bruckheimer production's multi-genre appeal. Nobody will ever accuse director Jon Turtletaub of artistic ambition, but you've got to admit he serves up an enjoyable dose of PG-rated entertainment, full of musty clues, skeletons, deep tunnels, and harmless adventure in the old-school tradition. It's a load of hokum, but it's fun hokum, and that makes all the difference. --Jeff Shannon
Like a Hardy Boys mystery on steroids, National Treasure offers popcorn thrills and enough boyish charm to overcome its rampant silliness. Although it was roundly criticized as a poor man's rip-off of Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Da Vinci Code, it's entertaining on its own ludicrous terms, and Nicolas Cage proves once again that one actor's infectious enthusiasm can compensate for a multitude of movie sins. The contrived plot involves Cage's present-day quest for the ancient treasure of the Knights Templar, kept secret through the ages by Freemasons past and present. Finding the treasure requires the theft of the Declaration of Independence (there are crucial treasure clues on the back, of course!), so you can add "caper comedy" to this Jerry Bruckheimer production's multi-genre appeal. Nobody will ever accuse director Jon Turtletaub of artistic ambition, but you've got to admit he serves up an enjoyable dose of PG-rated entertainment, full of musty clues, skeletons, deep tunnels, and harmless adventure in the old-school tradition. It's a load of hokum, but it's fun hokum, and that makes all the difference. --Jeff Shannon
<from: amazon.com>
The Bourne Supremacy (2004)
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