Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams XXX please RUTH.
NICK OH the joys of living in the country I did not realize there had been so much rain over there, was it mainly in your part or was it all over.
I was racking my brains to think of a 4-8-0 in the UK or Ireland and you provided the answer with those narrow gauge ones.
I'm afraid there will be three A4s in steam when they meet up at York. Mallard is to be towed out of the museum but is not in steamable condition, but 3 A4s in steam will be a marvelous sight.
Yes the corn beef over here is completely different to the Fray Bentos I used to know and love. Last St Patrick's Day I had a very good Corned beef dinner at the Harvey's House in Union Station in Kansas City. This year I will have to try it at the local Irish pub, the landlord takes a party every year to Ireland, he is still trying to make mushy peas.
I think I saw in a railway magazine that they were going to get one of the preserved S&D 7F 2-8-0s to visit the Avon Valley Railway for a short while, I wonder if the class ever did work north of Bath in BR days, I guess they went to Derby works for overall but I can't recall seeing a photo of them north of Bath.
Lovely picture in my mind with the Les Dawson and Roy Barraclough ladies, and old Les's piano playing. Reminded me of many years ago, when the much missed Midland Red bus company used to run day coach tours, one I went on was to the then newly opened Lakeside and Hathernwaite Railway mainly with quite elderly ladies on it. Anyway we had a lunch in the Lake District and the sight after lunch of a few of the ladies rushing round and putting the miniature jam and marmalade jars in their handbags is a sight that has stayed with me. God help you if you were between the lady and the jam pot.
Playing a pub next to the ferry terminal for Irish Rugby fans and then the club at Llanelli You're a better man than I am Gunga Din.
ROB What a great way to spend a Sunday A good breakfast, a bit of a rest and then a few beers at the St George Arms.
As DL says the class 20s were not too good in the looks department but after 50 years some of them are still going strong. I think if it had not been for the English Electric products in the early days of British main line diesels the railways would have been in trouble.
To me these locomotives were the worst looking of the early BR diesels, although they look a bit better in this paint scheme. They got the nickname GOYLES (from gargoyles) from railfans
A line of class 31s at Rugby station.
ERIC I will have to get a new soft lens brush for my slides, thanks for the info.
On the British locomotives the steam heat and the vacuum brake hoses looked a lot more similar in appearance, with the vacuum brake hose being a bigger diameter than air hoses.
Great photo of the chain driven old timer.
DL Yes I am the same I love watching those old Ealing black and white films, not so much for the plot, but those wonderful background scenes.
The class 20s were light engine and they departed in the Toton direction. The class 20s were a novel sight when I first saw them, the only main line diesels before them on the ex LMS lines through Rugby, were 10000 and10001 and the three ex SR diesels 10201-10203, the prototype Deltic had already gone to the Eastern by then I think. The picture in my mind was seeing them by the Newbold water troughs where I spent hours watching the steam locos pick up water, even to my then young mind the appearance of the 20s made me realize that steam was not going to be around for ever and modern traction was coming in. The sound of a pair of 20s idling always reminds me of the East Midlands.
Many thanks for the info and those great links to the George Bennie Railplane some really great photos. I noticed how immaculate the LNER track was although only a line to the dye works, a bit different to the state of the track in the 1950s when the line a the Railplane had been abandoned.
I had not realized that some many different cigarette cards have been produced
CM3 I see DL has answered the question on railway cigarette cards. They were also given out for while by Lyon's Maid in certain brands of ice cream Popsicles (we called them ‘lollys'). Even in the 1980s the Tom Thumb cigars had a History of Britain's Railways set of cards, a friend at work collected them for me and I have them in a small album, they are all 3" X 2 1/4" paintings with some great artwork.
Yes it
G'day Gents!
Man, what a dismal day here in mid-continent USA - temps are dropping, but the rains have been rather heavy with some local flooding. One of those days <daze> where one wonders why even get outta bed! <groan>
Ruth, you've done a fine job squaring away the back bar - those mirrors 'n glasses are sparkling! Yeah, I know about "idle hands" . . . <uh oh>
Boris, good of you to get the critters out for some exercise - was beginning to think this place had turned into an annex for our local zoo. <geesh>
Soooooo, rather slow, but understandable. Seems we're getting far more evening visitors than day lite . . . anyway, here's something from the picture gallery to keep y'all entertained! All of these appeared over on the "Original Thread" . . . .
Here are some Rendezvous Pix (2006 in Toronto) from Day 2 (the "extra" day!): (Numbers have been provided so that trolleyboy Rob can provide descriptions as appropriate!) (1) Halton County Radial Railway (2) Ted - Rob ‘ Heather (3) Subway cars (4) Subway flat cars (5) Electric locos (6) Electric locos <dupicate - sorry!>(7) VIA Rail #9482 & CPR caboose - converted to crew cars (8) Transit buses (9) Tom's bus! (10) Tom's bus!
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Yeah, I know about the "Six Rule," but what the heck - thought you'd enjoy these anyway! <grin>
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That's it for this day!
Tom
Hi Tom
More pancakes for me please, since it is Shrove Tuesday!
I've been meaning to post up these links which I was prompted to search out when Ron posted the Railplane material. So here goes. Some of this duplicates other stuff a bit but anyone interested may find this worth a look.
As Ron says, it's a Jules Verne / Meccano / Constructor kit creation - but it's amazing it got built.
I knew about it because I have a reproduction of this great period poster in my own collection :
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10173073
What I find amazing is that the thing got built, and the guy who promoted it paid for it out of his own money (clearly not a shrewd businessman - or otherwise he'd have paid for it out of someone else's money - preferably the government's - so he could have learned a trick or two on that front, but maybe ripping other people off was simply not fashionable then in the way it is now....).
I also find it remarkable that the infrastructure lasted in place until the 1950s. As you can see from these articles it was actually built over a siding. Apparently there is a model in Glasgow transport museum.
Ron's original post read like an account from the original period of construction, along with some great pics.
Here's a link with some pics of the gear in place in the mid 1950s (great Glasgow streetcar sneaking in to one photo too Rob - so take a look)
http://www.dewi.ca/trains/bennie/site.html
Here's a summary of the project:
"In the 1930s an old railway siding near Milngavie was used to test the remarkable George Bennie Railplane System of Transport. An aerial rail was constructed above 130m of the siding, and from it was suspended the Bennie Railplane, a Jules Verne-esque silver cylinder with a large propeller at either end. The line was launched on 8 July 1930, but the idea never gained the financial backing it needed, and Bennie went bankrupt in 1937. The track was removed in 1956, and images here show how it looked, complete with the railplane, in November 1950. - from Undiscovered Scotland website"
More pics from the 1950s of all the kit (control shed still there it says)
http://www.dewi.ca/trains/bennie/struct.html
Close ups of the gondola car
http://www.dewi.ca/trains/bennie/car.html
"In 1950 I visited the test track, about 20 years after the line was built. When I took these photos, the site appeared abandoned: no gates, no locks, no security: I just walked up the steps as though to board a train. "
"The test track and carriage remained until they were dismantled and sold for scrap in 1956. However, there are still remnants of the track's concrete pylon 'feet' and Kelvin Timber now occupies the wooden terminus building/platform. A model and a short film showing the Railplane can be seen at the Glasgow Transport Museum."
Superb quality pics here - note the stained glass window in the car door - Pullman style!
http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/lofiversion/index.php/t6630.html
Interesting relevant newspaper article from Scotland
http://www.milngavieherald.co.uk/milngavie-yesterday/This-piece-of-scrap-metal.1715890.jp
Some good pics here - showing a good view of an LNER N2 tank below the structure
http://www.gearwheelsmag.co.uk/archive/the_bennie_railplane_feature_13.htm
Cigarette Cards
CM3 - yes - that card was indeed a cigarette card - they were very popular here at one time with manufacturers printing cards of every topic imaginable - railway scenes and locos but also wild flowers and birds, kings and queens, flags etc - anything - with very beautiful artwork. Still a big market in them for collectors I believe.
I'm not an expert, but these links tell you more if interested
http://www.cigarettecards.co.uk/intro.htm
http://cigarettecardinserts.co.uk/
This gives you an idea of the sheer number of sets produced, just by one tobacco brand
http://www.johnrhoggarth.co.uk/cigarett.htm#JOHN%20PLAYER%20&%20SONS.%20(odds)
cheerio
DL
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It's Shrove Tuesday! <check this link>
http://www.pancakeparlour.com/Annual_Events/Shrove/shrove.html
So order up your favorites from our Menu Board - wash it down with a mugga freshly ground' n brewed coffee. And of course if all of that doesn't "do it," there's The Mentor Village Bakery case - bakery goods from Mama ‘n Papa Grundledink!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Monday - Feb 4th: <all times Central standard>
Page 179 - Pete (pwolfe) at 5:13 PM: Most appreciative of your efforts - always - ‘n your fine < I3 > Post is certainly an example of the way we like to converse with one another!
As if we NEED a musical branch to "Our" Place - remember, we've got our own group:
Many thanx for the visit - ROUND too!
Page 179: Nick (nickinwestwales) at 8:48 PM: There just are some tunes that never seem to depart my rapidly aging cranium - Whiskey in the Jar is one of ‘em!
A link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_in_the_Jar
All the talk of that Cochrane trip makes me wanna . . . <grin> Maybe one day . . .
Fairbanks is only worth visiting in the daylite months - I've been there in the dead of winter ‘n wouldn't recommend it. <ugh> Can't speak for the nite-life, but as with any place that has a military population nearby, along with lots of local folks who develop keen thirsts over the "long haul," my guess is there's more than a few bistros about the area. <grin>
Rainin' here too - no evidence of our 8 inch snow - all disappeared by Monday morning. Temps were in the lo-70s (F) yesterday - reached 73 in fact. <yikes> Supposed to be winter.
Was wonderin' if you ‘n your band <your choice of which!> would perform for us at "Our" Place on March 17th A treat to last a lifetime, fer sure, fer sure.
Appreciate the < I3 > Post, chat ‘n humor - ROUND too! <won't even ask about the front tooth . . . > <uh oh>
Page 179: Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:04 PM: "Can't tell a book by its cover," but with those RR books, I've found the covers to be very revealing ‘n on the money! Glad you enjoyed ‘em.
What have I missed Hire someone Men's underwear - Tightie whities - Say whut
You're a sick-O young Mr. Rob - but one of us, fer sure, fer sure! <grin>
Visit, chat ‘n ROUND appreciated!
Page 179 - Eric (EricX2000) at 11:08 PM: A chain drive Mack truck! Circus shots really reveal all kinds of insights!
Weather report from here has been unseasonably warm, warm, warm ‘n wet, wet, wet - no traces of snow remain. <ugh> However, cold front en route . . . nothing encouraging being said though . . . <barf>
Can't lift over 25 pounds, eh Well, she'll just h
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Cloudy here today with some heavy weather expected to the north. We had enough yesterday, thank you. Gas is holding at $3.09 and has been for awhile. Nine days until pitchers and catchers report (some of the best words ever put together, IMHO).
Lots of good stuff in the mail this a.m., so let's get started.
DL was by with some interesting information and some good sites to check out. One that intrigued me especially was a picture of some passenger equipment on what looked to be a card issued by a tobacco company. Is this so? If it is, what more can you tell us about it?
Tobacco companies in the states, for years issued card inserts with pictures of baseball players or other subjects on them. Boris still has his Sweet Caporal picture of Little Egypt from the St. Louis World's Fair.
Seriously, though, probably the most expensive baseball card in captivity is the Honus Wagner cigarette card. BTW, the statue of Ol' Honus that is in front of the present day ballpark in Pittsburgh has been displayed at three different parks - quiz for the day is, can you name the ballparks?
Anyway, enquiring minds want to know. Back in the day I remember collecting a set of metal railroad heralds which came in cereal boxes - don't recall seeing or hearing of rr-related cigarette cards.
DD1 sent some interesting data along - you can see that streamlining was truly getting started. The material about the Green Diamond was interesting because some trains were gradually equipped with hw cars before entire streamlined sets of equipment became available and went into service.
Pete - 2-2-2-0s - egad!
Nick - Speaking of Zeppelins. I spent yesterday evening watching "Wings" on Turner Classic Movies. This was, of course, the first Academy Award "Best Picture" winner, IIRC. Truly an epic WWI flying flick (silent) with a great cast. I know, Boris, you still carry a torch for Clara Bow.
Nick, you'd enjoy it if you have not seen it - Fokkers, Nieuports, Gotha Bombers, early tanks, etc., etc., and attacks on balloons. For the cultural mavens at the bar, the version on TMC had a musical store done on a Wurlitzer Theatre Organ - classy, classy, classy. BTW, it is also the first appearance of Gary Cooper in a ‘moom picher, I think. I can't remember if we have viewed it at the Emporium. If we have, well, it's worth a rerun. Maybe Mike can find us a picture of Frank Luke, aka the "balloon buster."
Eric - Let's see; 25 lbs. That means you can handle one Cracker Barrel breakfast in each had - you can do it!
OSP visited with books (nice picture of the D&H) and some bridge history, too. Those of you in the book exchange remember the segments on the Tay Bridge.
Well, I'd better get out of here.
Work safe
Far too many fine Posts to read this morning - which will delay my AM summary. Soooo, check out this from days gone by . . .
Great Railroad Bridges - #2
<Initially appeared on Page 390, Sep 7th, 2006 on the Original Thread>
Used with permission from Wikipedia.com
Forth Railway Bridge
The Forth Bridge, viewed from the Fife side, straddling the Firth of Forth.
Official name
Forth Bridge
Carries
Trains
Crosses
Firth of Forth
Locale
Edinburgh, Scotland
Maintained by
Balfour Beatty under contract to Network Rail]
Design
Cantilever bridge
Longest span
2 of 521.3 m (1710 ft)
Total length
2528.7 m (8296 ft)
Clearance below
150 ft
AADT
190 - 200 trains per day
Opening date
March 4, 1890
The Forth Bridge is a railway bridge over the Firth of Forth in the east of Scotland, to the east of the Forth Road Bridge, and 14 km (9 miles) west of Edinburgh. It is often called the "Forth Rail Bridge" to distinguish it from the Forth Road Bridge. The bridge connects Scotland's capital Edinburgh with Fife, and acts as a major artery connecting the north-east and south-east of the country.
History
Forth Bridge at Night
Construction of an earlier bridge, designed by Sir Thomas Bouch, got as far as the laying of the foundation stone, but was stopped after the failure of another of his works, the Tay Bridge. On Bouch's death the project was handed over to Sir John Fowler and Sir Benjamin Baker, who designed a structure that was built by Sir William Arrol's company between 1883 and 1890. Baker - "one of the most remarkable civil engineers Britain ever produced" - and his colleague Allan Stewart received the major credit for design and overseeing construction work.
Construction
The bridge is, even today, regarded as an engineering marvel. It is 2.5 km (1.5 miles) in length, and the double track is elevated 46 m (approx. 150 ft) above high tide. It consists of two main spans of 1,710 ft, two side spans of 675 ft, 15 approach spans of 168 ft, and five of 25 ft. Each main span comprises two 680 ft cantilever arms supporting a central 350 ft span girder bridge. The three great four-tower cantilever structures are 340 ft (104 m) tall, each 70 ft diameter foot resting on a separate foundation. The southern group of foun
Hello Tom and all in
I'll have pancake breakfast please (what with it being Shrove Tuesday of course), coffee and juice too please.
Tom - thanks for the link back to the ONR trip report plus the helpful tutorial. Looks like Nick checked it back quickly too. That Pullman book looks rather good, nice cover pic - atmospheric - reminds me of something Pete mentioned - it's the everyday shots that turn out to be most interesting - I found this out when going through old family pics during the house clear outs over the last couple of years - the slides of everyday scenes, catching things in the background almost by chance - are much more interesting than the posed shot of the historic ‘monument' - seems to be the case that the Eiffel Tower, or maybe Mount Rushmore etc pretty much look the same today as they did 50 years ago, but a casual shot of a tram rolling down the street with a host of background detail (as some of Rob's posts show) takes one to a whole lost world!
Ron - I know what you mean about the TV - last year our aerial blew down in a gale, I did not get round to fixing it for about 8 months. Never missed the TV in all that time!
Pete - that pic of the Class 20s looks like home! Late 1980s perhaps? On the through roads between platforms 3 & 4 - are they readying up to haul a Skegness summer special train perhaps? One certainly has to admire the GCR for the ambition of some of the projects - but I suppose I worry that it is a large financial ‘stretch' - I suppose the ability to bid for lottery funds encourages places to think big (although they stand to lose out now so much cash is being diverted into the Olympics - what is the point of all that just so some people can spend a couple of weeks running up and down?). But meanwhile some more basic things seem to urgently need attention - eg the roof canopy at Loughborough is starting to look in a rather sorry state, and it would be good to see more of the vintage coaches fixed up before they deteriorate further. Mind you - when you look what thy have achieved who I am to question their ambition?
Nick - glad you found the ONR link - and thanks for your comments on the trip report - I bow to superior knowledge on the traction - sounds like you have made the trip to Moosonee? Is that the case. Very interesting place I thought. By friendly staff I meant more friendly than some (but certainly not all) Via employees I think.
You mentioned vintage Kodak pix on the unofficial site - have you got a link by any chance?
"Les Dawson/Roy Barraclough type old ladies who were unwilling to give any ground...." - you would have had no chance - neither would the track gang of course....
Rob - yes, I'd love to do the ACR trip for the whole length. I did spend some time wondering how best to get to The Sault without a car from Toronto. Sudbury - White River is another run I'd like to do. Does that intersect with the ACR (at Franz?) or am I muddled up about that?).
I can understand your comments on the EE Class 20, it won't win any glamour contests! - but it holds a special place for us - as Pete indicated - it was really the first large scale production UK diesel loco - designed for medium weight freights - or heavier when 2 linked, and the first ones were of the production line by 1958 I think - some still in service today so - they represented good value. Must have been good to see them on fast freights Pete, back in the early days!
Eric - thanks for your comments on slide cleaning - I can see why fixing them up electronically is a good way to go.
Regards to all
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, good to see you again! Give a number 3 with lots of ries, please! I'll try a Tui tonight! Thank you!
Monday, a visit to the doctor who declared me a very healthy person. The only restriction is not to lift more than 25 lbs for the next 30 days.
Tom – Hold it! What do you know about a private suite at the stadium? I mean, what is... what do you mean? Did you get any snow in St. Louis last night? I like the books! Especially the first one, Rites of Passage! It’s on top of my “have to have-list” The cover photo alone is worth the money! At least I have two of the other books, Travel by Pullman and the first Classic American Railroads! CM3 – When I get a chance I’ll look for some more circus train photos. DL – Slides can be kind of tricky to scan. Since the picture size is very small all kinds of dirt show up. A lot of it can be removed mechanically, for instance using a lens brush (as you mentioned). Other stains, etc, you have to work on each slide using some kind of software, like Photoshop, to remove them. That means a lot of time consuming job, but it is rewarding when you see the result. Some stains could probably be removed using some kind of chemical cleaner, but I don’t know much about that. Personally I always use a camera lens brush to clean the slides before I scan them and then I use Photoshop or Aperture to fix what is necessary after they are scanned. Ron – Didn’t your local Fox-station carry the Super Bowl? It doesn’t make sense that you should have to pay extra to watch it. I wonder what light weight passenger train that was pulled at 112.5 mph near Saint-Télesphore, Quebec, Canada September 18, 1936? Pete – I love the photo of the Causey Arch! It looks so old and classic. Beautiful! I usually adjust the light a first time before I scan the slides (or ant photos). Then, if necessary, I’ll do a final adjustment afterwards. Personally I hardly ever use the electronic dust remover in the scaning program. In my opinion it affects other small details in the photo too. I use a camera lens brush to remove as much dust as I can find and if there some dust lefte I’ll remove that using Photoshop or Aperture. The hose for steam heat usually looks different than the air hose.
Steam for heat and hoses for air in behind it.
Nick – Glad you liked the circus train photos!Oldtimer!Eric
Good evening Leon, I see that the bar surviveed the fusiliers did thier job ( for once ) and none of them were arrested I see that most of them are sleeping it off in the Rats Patoot room. Well just a Keith's tonight heres a couple bucks for a round for the Fusilier's officers should any of them wake up again , if nor use it for the breakfast crowd
Dl-Great work on all those urls , some neat stuff in there to be sure.Nexty time your in the Province you should look into doing the tour of the line on the ACR ( if it's still offered )The Sault to Hearst with the night stay over at a B&B in Hearst.
Ron-Another great Monday masterpiece sir even got soem CPR stuff in it Thanks for the clear up on the sandwiches, we just call em subs up here.Toasted seems to be the way of them lately.
Tom-Nice book covers mate I see a couple of them in there that I have in my humble library.I wonder how much money was lost ( and houses ) in the Sin City over that football result
Pete-Actually three fingers , two indexes and a thumb Molly will be proud Interesting shots of the Class 20 sorry but that one does not do much for me, an interesting paint scheme though. If you are inetersted in partaking the Arms serve Sunday breakfast from 8:30 to noon , then they break out the pub fare and booze When can we make the reservations for you
CM3-Thanks for the , locator of those pictures posted,I hadn't driven that day so I was a bit lost. My friend from Grand Island was driving , as we were hitting all the local and not so local hobby shops and pubs. Pat does like his beer and trains.I've tried to get him to come on in here but at the moment he's packed up his computer,too bad he's a wealth of MLW and Alco info and an all round great guy.I don't know about you but I think that they should bring back the solid tired friction bearing'd Macks,can't get much more simplistic or tough than that
Nick - Hmmm maybe we can talk Tom into hiring her to wait tables here every other weekend So H&H make like a cloud with the Zep's interesting plan. I don't want to know why you know what a wino's armpits smell like
TTFN
Rob
Well good evening fellow travellers,Leon-a Starop and a large cognac please and a round for the house-thought I had best pop in and pick up those odd bits and pieces I arrived home without on saturday-2 guitars,my wallet & watch and a front tooth............
Rain continues here (6 months worth in 3 weeks apparently) but does nothing to diguise the smell from the local farmer spraying slurry on the fields-the whole village smells like a winos armpit
So-whats new in downdown Mentor then--
ERIC-loved those circus train pixs-especially that chain drive Mack-a thing of strange beauty (rather like Janis Joplin,but I digress)-glad we got that mastodon pinned down-was even rarer over here-only examples I can call to mind were a pair built for a narrow (3ft) gauge line in Ireland-had something of the look of Anglicised Colorado & Southern `mikes`
ROB-Tighty whities indeed-now she could wait tables here any night of the week-forgot to mention the pix from Buffalo the other day-Nice-you can hear the bees a buzzing and the grass a growing-it`s strange-a row of derelict cars/autos look like an eyesore,a row of derelict trains retain their dignity somehow................. As to the Zeppelins-homeland security not a problem-we fly em acroos the trans polar route,shut down the engines just off the coast and they show up as clouds on the radar....-there are options there I`m not even gonna look at......
TOM-Thanks for the reference location for DL`s O.N.R tour-most useful-whilst there I noted the cover for `Rites of Passage`-had no idea that the S.O.B lines permanent way had been used in a cover shot.......FINE shot of the Alaska road train btw-also the pix of Denali-I have an(Ahem)extremely good friend who hails from Fairbanks and wants to take me up there (literally) and meet the folks..moving swiftly on,pub names-there are (or were ) a number of taverns around London called either the Turks head or the Saracens head-these generally dated back to the crusades (1200 ad or so) and instead of a sign actually had the real thing,dried and shrunken,hanging outside-what a wonderful world we live in,eh....
LARS-So-nothing much happening at your end of the bar then................-delighted your team won mate-as the man says-its only cheating if they catch you-win ugly or win pretty-it`s the win that counts--enjoy !!!!!!!!!
DL-Just been back to check out your O.N.R report-cracking stuff -you seemed suprised that staff were friendly and helpful-well-they are Canadian-goes with the territory-joking aside,I guess when you live in a place where -40 is not unusual,you HAVE to pull together-couple of points-I dont doubt your memory,but would have been most unusual to have a GP9 on the point-they are generally reserved for yard work-#697ʺ (Northlander ) are normally a GP38/2 turn since the `Cats` (re-engined FP7a`s) have been retired-although there are also 3 GP40/2 available..The power cars you mentioned are essentially F7b units with the traction motors removed and are train heating units-some were built in house there are also some ex-Milw. Rd units in reserve-there is some speculation on the website that some GO-Trans FP59`s might be in the pipeline---The line west from Cochrane still handles some freight-the Kapuskasing turn plus through C.N workings from Hearst to Noranda and back plus (when you were there) the Smooth Rock trip (think I`ve got the names right)-delighted you have found Mike Robins photo site-if you want to delve further ,there are some wonderful old Kodak style pix of the line in the 50`s &`60 on the UNofficial website.......Fine write up on the G.C.R by-the-by-as new to me as to the rest of the gang,although I have more chance of visiting it,as to the beaver tails,have some pix from about 10 years ago of the G.W car on the Dart Valley when Flying Scotsman was the guest engine(in 60103 guise) plus some from last year,although they are still a bit too raw to look at ,as my late father in law appears in many of them-we tried to get on but the whole coach was full of Les Dawson/Roy Barraclough type old ladies (sorry -a Brit reference) who were unwilling to give any ground....
DD1-Excellent-have spent many years wondering what a shrimp po`boy was-exchange of info-gawd bless the interweb thingy --again,a couple of points from your excellent calender-may 11th-check out the stats for 4468`Mallard` on a test run down stoke bank-I believe she had the edge by 2mph......Jan 20th"something must be done"-still bloody waiting..........but not your fault-dont worry
PETE-a selection from now & back in the summer when Dan posted his O.N.R report-4-A4`s in steam-now that will be worth a tank of gas to look at..... Spam fritters-Tesco are selling them ready made-just heat in the oven (but keep a bottle of chilli sauce handy)-corned beef(makes a better fritter for my money)-watched a cookery prog the other night that gave traditional Irish corned beef-looked good but yet to try it-essentially,you boil a joint of silverside with salt,pepper & herbs and then serve with steamed cabbage and whole carrots and spuds with the un-thickened liquor as a gravy-then for left-overs,fry cold spuds and onions in a big skillet ,flake the left over meat into it and you have traditional corned beef hash-apparently this is the recipe that the emigres took over to the states in the desperate 1840`s............ now then-the Avon railway is based at Bitton)or was when I was there-looked like they had a fair amount of stock-including several coaches with Pines Express boards-cant fault the ambition-but that was 20 years ago-who knows where they are now-class 20`s-got some pix of what looks like the same pair on the S.D.R at Buckfastleigh this summer-will post asap-indeed,they have an excellent collection there-again,is a bit raw,but I am sure Alan would want them to be shared and enjoyed..<
A pint of Bathams to celebrate the Giants win paid for by Manager Lars please RUTH.
LARS Thanks for the drinks. Congratulations on that great Giants win I thought it was a really good game and a well deserved win.
Very good choices for encore Saturday, when I think of the knowledge and the great way it is related, it reminds me how lucky we are to have Our Place.
ALLAN Thanks for the kind words on my photos. I have quite a few of the Shildon cavalcade I will post, there are a couple of locos I missed from the front and they are poor going away shots but if you are keeping a record I will include them.
That is a great photo of Juneau and I.
I believe this is the famous Causey Arch.
Perhaps you can help me. This electric locomtive was i believe taken at the Tanfield Railway, I have a feeling that is worked at a colliery in the Newcastle area, I wonder if you have any details on it..
ROB Glad you enjoyed the photos.
Many thanks for the great photos from the museum near Buffalo and the trolley cars from the charters.Enjoyed the photos of the Redcoats
Using two fingers to type will have you in Molly Throttlebottom's ‘Advanced' Typing Class.,BORIS and I are still in the beginners
NICK Thanks for the info on the hot pokers and the cider, I must admit I try to steer clear of those ‘Real' ciders. I remember going to Hereford many years ago, and it was hard to get a pint of bitter in some pubs, it was all cider. Do you think it is a good idea to give the ‘Track Gang' any chance of getting their hands on some Somerset ‘Farmhouse Rough'
I believe it is called the Avon Valley Railway, where some enthusiasts have re-laid some track on part of the Bristol - Bath section and run steam trains at weekends.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos, yes those Victorian and Edwardian locomotive engineers produced some beautiful engines. A ‘Terrier' was there, photo soon.
If you have the book of the cavalcade handy, can you have a look to see if the APT was there, as Dan asked and I could not recall it.
Curved Air I remember them in their early days at the Camden Roundhouse. Wish I still had the picture LP they produced.
ERIC Many thanks for the info and the link to the ex Norfolk and Western M class 4-8-0, and the great photos of the Circus Train at Baraboo. Noticed all the different circus names on the side of the wagons and equipment.
I think #2253 worked for Polish Railways from 1951 until 1985. One of hoses of the front of 2253 may be for steam train heating, which would have been added in preservation days, the locos work tender first in the NYMR one way, on the line.
I have lightened some of my photos after I scanned them; the only problem at Shildon was the stands were on the north side so making photography against the light. What do you use to clean your slides, I tried the dust removal but I think the objects on the slides were too big.
CM3 Glad you liked the photos. After the formation of the LMS in 1923 another batch of the 4-4-0 compounds were built, I think they were OK for the ex Midland lines but were not so well liked on the ex L&NWR lines. The L&NWR has some 2-2-2-0 compounds with the driving wheels not connected by a connecting rod but by some sort of clutch arrangement, it is said after reversing onto a train when starting off forward again there could be the very odd sight of one pair of driving wheels going forward a
Should make mention of the guys who stopped by thus far today: CM3 Shane - Dan DL-UK 'n Ron DD1.
Particular mention to Dan 'n Ron for the effort put into your Posts - believe me - I KNOW how much it takes to do the work. Nice going . . .
CM3 Shane at 9:17 AM: - Undoubtedly you 'n Lars are in "heaven" today. Quite a game 'n unless someone was totally brain-dead while watching it, the Giants outplayed the Patriots in every aspect of the contest 'n surely deserved to win it. Perhaps one of the most exciting of Super Bowl games in many years.
Quarters 'n round appreciated!
Dan at 12:17 PM: - Your trip report may be found on Page 116 on this Thread . . . <for the "challenged" out there - you can either "scroll back" again 'n again until you get to 116 - OR - insert 116 in the URL at the top of your web Page - replace the Page number shown - then "hit" ENTER!>
Ron at 12:24 PM: - The Super Bowl game was broadcast nationally on FREE TV. Now having said that, I don't know what kind of a set up you have with your "sat" - some require a separate antenna to pick up local stations (CBS - NBC - ABC - FOX) - but anyway, the NFL did not put that game on any kind of a subscription package. That I know. Perhaps someone down your way is trying to make money on the side . . . Hmmmmm.
Shame on me for forgetting about the "Po-Boys"! Yes - I recall, having spent a tour in the south, not to mention the sea deployments . . . . Anyway, it's been added to the list of "hard rolls" baked at The Mentor Village Bakery!
1936 - not a bad year for trains!
Round always appreciated!
Now Arriving on Track Number Two!
Hard Cover Classic Train Books for the Can-Am Library!
Number Two
Rites of Passage - A Canadian Railway Retrospective <in the library>
Book Description: Each new railway book by writer-photographer Greg McDonnell is cause for celebration in the North American railfan community. Rites of Passage, a look at over three decades of transition and changes along Canada's rail lines, is his most personal book to date. "For what it's worth," McDonnell writes in his introductory essay, "what follows on these pages is personal, a collection of images and essays drawn from a 35-year effort to capture and chronicle the magic of Canadian railroading, an effort that began with a young boy pointing a borrowed Brownie at a pair of olive-green GMD1's looming out of the early morning fog in Kitchener and quickly grew to be a lifetime avocation, if not a vocation." Rites of Passage is vintage McDonnell, a sensual feast of boiler steam and diesel smoke, high iron and midnight runs across the prairies, wistful memories and critical analysis.
Travel by Pullman <in the library>
Book Description: Every evening for much of the twentieth century, 50,000 or more travelers snuggled under crisp Pullman linens, falling asleep in one state and awaking in another. This nostalgic look back at what was essentially a rolling hotel company contracted by the nation's railroads to Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 4, 2008 12:24 PM Good day Tom and all present at the bar by the siding. Please give a round of drinks. Nick: Thanks for straightening me out about the hot poker thing. Tom: Down here in the south, they call hoagies, grinders and heroes "po-boys". One of the most famous being fried shrimp mixed with mayo and stuffed onto a soft roll. Very similar to a Maine lobster roll, but shrimp instead. Glad to hear your Jints won. I couldn't watch the game as my TV service wants a lot of money to watch "premium" channels. It seems that TV is moving away from free broadcasting, as there doesn't seem to be very much to watch anymore. Call me cheap, but I refuse to pay for programming, I used to get for free. I subscribe to a "basic" satellite service and that's it. If I had my way, I wouldn't have a TV at all, but the missus wants it. Radio suits me just fine. I haven't gotten around to looking at the latest posts, but hope the following edition of the Events of 1936 will give food for thought. As I went through this list, I discovered much that I didn't know. March 25 - The 200-inch mirror blank for the Palomar observatory begins its cross-country trip aboard a special railroad car. May 11 - Deutsche Reichsbahn Gesellschaft's BR 05 class locomotive number 05 002 sets the world's speed record for steam locomotives at 200.4km/h (124.5mph) on a run between Hamburg and Berlin. May 12 - The Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway inaugurates the all-diesel powered Super Chief passenger train between Chicago, Illinois, and Los Angeles, California. May 15 - The first City of Los Angeles passenger train makes its debut, using the streamliner trainset M-10002, running from Chicago, Illinois, to Los Angeles, California, on the Chicago and North Western Railway and the Union Pacific Railroad. May 17 - Illinois Central's streamliner "Green Diamond" makes its debut, running between Chicago, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri. May 20 - The first diesel locomotive rolls out of EMD's LaGrange plant in McCook, Illinois: a 100-ton, 600-horsepower switcher built for the Santa Fe Railroad. May - Union Pacific Railroad takes delivery of the first of the M-10003-6 streamliner power cars. June 14 - The M-10004 streamliner trainset enters service on the City of San Francisco passenger train. June 18 - The first City of Denver passenger train makes its debut running from Chicago, Illinois, to Denver, Colorado, on the Chicago and North Western Railway and the Union Pacific Railroad. July 15 - The New York Central introduces the Mercury passenger train between Detroit, Michigan, and Cleveland, Ohio. August 1 - The New Haven Railroad tests a new streamliner: a two-car Besler steam motor train.September 18 - Canadian Pacific Railway 4-4-4 number 3003 pulls a newly-designed lightweight passenger train at 112.5 mph (181 km/h) near Saint-Télesphore, Quebec, Canada. October - Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad inaugurates the Sam Houston Zephyr passenger train. November 8 - Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad inaugurates the Denver Zephyr passenger train. December 18 - The Twin Cities Zephyr, an articulated trainset pulled by an EMD E5, is placed into service between Chicago, Illinois, and Minneapolis-St. Paul. December - Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad inaugurates the Ozark State Zephyr passenger train. Illinois Central's Green Diamond trainset is built by Pullman-Standard . Bruce Church, T. R. Merrill, Gene Harden and Ken Nutting form the Growers Ice Company to ship bulk carloads of lettuce by rail from Salinas, California 1887, November 2 - the Canada Atlantic Railway commences using the first passenger cars in Canada to be fitted with electric light. July 7 - At David Sarnoff's request for an experiment of RCA's electronic television technology, NBC's first attempt at actual programming is a 30-minute variety show featuring speeches, dance ensembles, monologues, vocal numbers, and film clips. It is shown to 225 of RCA's licensees. August - 72 hours of medium-definition (180-line) television broadcasts of the 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin are seen by approximately 150,000 people in public viewing rooms in Berlin and Potsdam. November 2 - The first regular high-definition (then defined as at least 200 lines) television service from the BBC, based at Alexandra Palace in London, officially begins broadcasting (after test transmissions began in August). The service alternates on a weekly basis between Baird's 240-line mechanical system and the Marconi-EMI's 405-line all-electronic system. Programmes are broadcast daily, Monday to Saturday, at 15:00-16:00 and 21:00-22:00. 1908, May 17 - Electric operation begins through the St. Clair Tunnel between Sarnia and Port Huron. This ended staem operation which had asphyxiated several crew members. A formal inspection and opening ceremony took place on November 12 1900, August 15 - Regular service is commenced over the 3'0" gauge White Pass and Yukon Railway between Skagway, Alaska and Whitehorse, Yukon.1917, October 17 - First train over the Quebec Bridge over the St. Lawrence. This was constructed by the Dominion Government for use by the National Transcontinental Railway. This bridge was notorious in that it fell down twice during constructionNovember 6 - NBC in New York demonstrates electronic television to invited members of the press, with a 40-minute program of live acts and films, received on 12-inch television screens. First coaxial cables are laid between New York and Philadelphia by AT&T; they will transmit television and telephone signals.[1] By this year there are approximately 2,000 televisions worldwide. June 19 - In one of boxing's all-time biggest upsets, Max Schmeling knocked out Joe Louis at 2:29 of round 12 at New York's Yankee Stadium. 1936 Summer Olympics takes place in Berlin, Germany Germany wins the most medals (89), and the most gold medals (33). Jesse Owens wins four gold medals. The first torch relay takes place from Olympia, Greece. March 4 - Jim Clark, Scottish motor racing champion (d. 1968)20 January - Edward, Prince of Wales, accedes to the throne as King Edward VIII of the United Kingdom. On a visit to depressed areas of South Wales later in the year, he declares that "something must be done". July 11 - Triborough Bridge in New York City is opened to trafficNovember 3 - U.S. presidential election, 1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt is reelected to a second term in a landslide victory over Alf Landon. November 12 - In California, the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge opens to traffic. Quite a few of our favorite musicians were born in 1936, including: Roger Miller, Jan 2; Doug Kershaw, Jan 24; Mickey Gilley, May 9; Glen Campbell, Apr 22; Roy Orbison, Apr 23: Zubin Mehta, Apr 29: Englebert Humperdinch, May 2: Boots Randolph, June 3: Kris Kristofferson, June 22 and Buddy Holly, Sept 7. I'm sure you will recognize some of the names.Courtesy of WikipediaThe Allen Paper Wheel was introduced in 1869. It had a centre core built up from strawboard with steel or iron plates bolted on the front and rear. It was widely used in North America between 1880 and 1915. The original invention was as a substitute for the wood core of wheels with steel tires. Compressed paper was substituted for wood at the core. When compressed it was said to be as hard as ivory yet soft enough to cushion the ride and reduce wheel noise and vibration. Pullman tested the wheels and eventually adopted them as standard. A "Paper Wheel" would have a ring of bolts all around the wheel center. (Thanks to Paul Bown and Steve Hunter for this explanation). I had mentioned previously about there being a prototype for everything. The wheels for my locomotive are made of plywood. I may/may not wrap the treads with brass strips. Edit DL - UK Member sinceAugust 2006 280 posts Posted by DL - UK on Monday, February 4, 2008 12:17 PM Hi TomI'll have a pint (and I'll have a Sheppy's Somerset Cider since Nick reminds me of how good they are) - whilst trying to return to the post I did not get finished before. Mind you - spotted those great pics of cars at the museum you posted - they are nicely finished and protected indoors of course. Nick - Just caught your more recent post where you mention the ONR - Round trip - I guess you will have missed it, but I did the ONR Toronto - Moosonee trip in late summer (trip report posted on these pages). You could do the round trip - but you'd have to use an ONR bus from Cochrane to Hearst (perfectly feasible as I saw the bus) - rails still used that way it looked to me - just not for passengers. Anyway - I took a copy of that railway magazine article from 1963 (?) you scanned for me along with me and gave a copy to the very friendly ONR folks at their Cochrane HQ for their interest. (Tom might know how to find my trip report on prev pages - not sure I know).CM3 - looks like you've got a load of weather!Rob - I see some Redcoats in those pictures! Enjoyed those ACR shots too.Ron - VW Karman Ghia - that was a nice car! There's one in my town I see from time to time being driven about, painted in maroon.On the subject of hot pokers in ale I've seen a chap do this once in a pub - but he was real ‘bar bullxxxter' who kept doing it to draw attention to himself - so I was not going to ask him why. I assume you'd do it in winter if your beer from the cellar was too cold due to climate (Tom, I know your going to be aggrieved at this concept...). Of course you can use Smokeless coal in a smoke free area Pete! Lars - hope all's well down on the Keys - looks like you are not missing the sport!Allan - interesting to read that your family pushed you in the direction of the Army rather than underground (not to say you didn't have your own preferences anyway) - just goes to show how dangerous mining was considered to be if life in the military in the cold war period was seen as lower risk!You are right about the Beavertail - the BR rebuild does look like a GWR railcar, apparently he original design did not actually offer a very good view to the people inside it hence the rebuild for use in Scotland in the 1950s.For comparison:BR rebuild (as recently restored on GCR)http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10173788&wwwflag=2&imagepos=1LNER original build (to be restored on GCR like this)http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10459955&wwwflag=2&imagepos=4GWR railcar (later design)http://www.kesr.org.uk/diesel_locos/20.htmGWR railcar - original shapehttp://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/grcwandd.htmThe second of the 2 surviving beavertails is to be restored to the original LNER shape. This has been moved from Carnforth down to Barrow Hill near Chesterfield for store prior to start of restoration work according to chap I asked at Loughborough GCR the other weekend.Eric - you mentioned scanning slides regarding dirt on them to Pete - I had a query as I have some old family slides which are dirty - I can imagine dry dust should be dealt with using a camera lens brush - but some have more ingrained dirt (inc small mould spores which is a problem from damp English houses) - any idea how to clean them without damaging them - I was thinking of asking for professional advice but fear it might "gag a healthy maggot" to pay someone to do it!Pete - I bet you wish you'd kept that Rugby departure poster - I enjoy reading the one they have on display at Loughborough from the old Nottingham Victoria station - departures right though the night - many to far flung destinations like Hastings leaving at 12.45am etc.I like the BR blue livery too - seen a Merchant Navy at GCR in it I think - they must have decided it would take too much cleaning and went for the dark green all too quickly, but the blue is good, as shown on that A4.Yes, it was a good day at the GCR gala - sunny and cold. For Rob's amusement I'm going to post the loco list WITH NUMBERS!LMS 4F 44422 ; GWR 4141 large Prairie ; SR King Arthur 30777 ; BR Std Cl 2 78019 ; GWR Hall 4953 ; LMS 8F 48305On other matter's you've asked about Pete I did my best to find out - so here goes:I think they could do 60mph at Quorn with no passengers on board as they have the line tamped up since they allowed Network Rail engineers to train on it and got the line tamped for speed as part of the deal. The sound of the approaching train was superbSome of the windcutters look like they need a lick of paint now, but the rake is still impressive. You must have been pleased to see the fruits of your donation.Other things at the GCR of note was a display about a plan to rebuild a replica of a Victorian GCR design (GCR Class 2 or what became an LNER D7 4-4-0) - using a spare boiler of suitable outline. This was alongside info on restoring vintage carriages. They seem to have a variety of teak bodied pre 1939 LNER carriages in various states of dereliction at Swithland. Then they have about 3 or 4 GCR Barnums (so named because the look like the cars used by the Barnum and Bailey Circus troupe of the period) - these have been moved to GCR Nottingham site for restoration - some work has been done but I don't think any are finished. Some more details are:http://www.gcr-rollingstocktrust.co.uk/articles_output.asp?id=11&checkSource=sitemapThey also have some vintage GCR wooden suburban carriages which are also in a fairly frail state. They would like to run them behind the 4-4-0 if the can be renovated.They have a plan to build a traditional brick carriage shed at Swithland on the old quarry siding branch and are trying to raise £50k to clear the site and lay track. They have recently cut down self seeded trees on this so you can see the line of the siding.On the subject of the Workington loco shed they have a good model in the Loughborough station museum of the proposed reconstruction - it looks good, and looks large! The main problem here seems to be the construction of access to the proposed site - including rebuilding the canal bridge and another bridge over stream. I honestly don't know how they can manage such a large project but clearly they intend to do so. It will be a world class locomotive restoration facility.Meanwhile the factory next to the GC station at Loughborough has been demolished for a housing development. This must have been the station goods yard. The old goods shed (GC shed) has not been demolished so maybe the GCR own this and can link it to their tracks? It is large and would make a good carriage storage shed or similar. A house style building at the edge of the site (clearly what was once the GCR goods offices, opposite the hotel) is also the only other building on the site not cleared, so maybe the property developer intends to turn this into flats and keep it. On a final matter - your mention of EE Class 20 diesels reminds me of my student days when they would head coal trains along the line at the end of the road from the house we rented - we were only about 75 meters away from the line and the house would shake when they went past. About 3 runs per day from Notts collieries to Toton yard. They certainly sounded like helicopters so deserved the ‘chopper' nick name. At this time this was the only traffic on this route, but since then it has been re-opened to passengers use as part of the Robin Hood line to Worksop.Britannia was in the shed stripped to frames but looking like it was ready to start putting back together - they need to get this ready for August for the 15 Guinea special commemorations do they not - the loco has outlived BR!!CheerioDLPs - By the way trial running of the new A1 Tornado steam loco is to be held on the GCR this year - should be in Sept if all goes to plan - see: http://www.a1steam.com/update.html coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, February 4, 2008 9:17 AM Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Artie, fly up and check the lightning rods, please. We just had a ferocious thunderstorm (purple lightning was a nice touch - no, Boris, it's not what we toasted the Giants with last night), so we are a tad late this a.m. LARS - Yes, they did! Lights burned late in the east wing last night, believe me! Thanks to OSP for appropriate recognition this a.m. DL visited with comments - good to hear from you.Rob sent a lot of material "Mat-ta-wan" is, of course, in New Jersey.Enjoyed the pictures taken behind the old Erie station at Hamburg, NY. Track is still active. The cabs and I1s all belong to the Western NY Railroad Historical Society which is a quite large and active group. You can Google the name and listen to the locomotive whistles on their website. Also look at their other buildings, etc. BTW, Straits Shows unloads just to the right of where you made your pictures. I was at Seashore yrs. ago - well remember riding them open cars.Interesting pictures in Boston - type 5 and an LRV. The former has survived the latter cars.DD1 visited as well. I did see the tank restoration story awhile back. They have lots of toys and a big shop area as well. The turret removal and restoration on (for the life of me I can't remember the name, but it was a UK tank), was fascinating. Nick - Good to hear from you - Now we have ZAG (Zeppelin Airship Restoration Group). The Greater Mentor Airship Observation Corps is waiting to stagger into action at the first report of any suspicious activity. BTW, I know you probably didn't bother with the Super Bowl at all, but FEDEX did have an inspired ad on use of carrier pigeons for shipping goods - wonder what they were consuming when they made that one - hope you get to see it sometime as you would truly appreciate it. Eric - Mack trucks, work horses, friction bearings - life is good - thanks for the pictures. Pete was by with some truly vintage items. A compound 4-4-0; not something you see every day.OSP - Travel via New York or Washington - Can see the P Company slogan now. The ancient and honorable one in our family took a trip to Columbus, OH back during WW2 - coach of course - double headed K4s over Horseshoe, and took advantage of the side routing to Washington to go to the opening of the National Gallery. He said the paintings were well worth seeing, but so was the show west of Altoona.Tug is an excellent game, but the K9 Korps prefers fetch - this involves chasing stuff and then burying it, or sometimes bringing it back to repeat the process. A set of action ‘moom pichers at the Theatuh - bring it on! Last, the 4-8-0 was, indeed, around on the N&W for a long time. It's Boris's favorite locomotive class, "Mastodon," of course.Work safe siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Monday, February 4, 2008 6:46 AM <personal foto>A smile to begin the week!Why buy good luggage? You only use it when you travel..<A Yogi-ism!>G'day Gents!It's THAT day again - MONDAY! <arrrrgggghhhh> But a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do - so drag yourself in here, kick start the day with a mugga Joe, a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast. That should help ya! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Congrats to the Super Bowl Champion Giants! <who wudda thunk it, eh > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Sunday- Feb 3rd: <all times Central standard>Page 179 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:37 PM: SELL-A-BRAY-SHUN! Page 179 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:54 PM: Back with concern for the well-being of "Our" Place after the "upset of upsets"! Great looking shots of the Home Guard - kinda strange that Mentor Village would erupt in such a manner - after all, "our" team, Mentor Marauders weren't involved. Hmmmmmm. Great to see ya! Monday - Feb 4th:Page 179 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:11 AM: In with some brief commentary ‘n a fine looking model circus foto! Thought you'd still be at the stadium - enjoying the party atmosphere in that private suite you were spotted in. And WHO was the "brunette," hmmmmm Appreciate the visit! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often! Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Monday, February 4, 2008 12:11 AM Hmm, at least it is not snowing this dark Sunday evening/Monday morning. Where is... oh, there it is. Down with this note and back home again.Rob – Glad you liked the photos! I am sorry I couldn’t provide the sound of that old truck! I found the steamer from Boone right away when I Googled. It found a new life in Strasburg. Did the war start? Let’s hope our Super Reporter CM3 can tell us the whole story.Tom – I think that artist added 2000 when he painted the poster, just to make it look even more futuristic. As you already mentioned, let’s spend some time on that topic in May at the library. Two fine movies for this week at the Emporium! Death in Paradise and Longest Yard! Plus, of course, the Three Stooges!Maybe something for Can Am Railway? A circus train and a circus!Lars – I know, I know, Jints won! As a matter of fact I was hoping they were going to win, but don’t tell anyone. Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:54 PM Just popped in to make sure that the pool room's intact after the upset of upsets Gongrats to the Gints and to our Manager who nevah gave up on them. Perfect Smerfect I alway's say Tom-Great movie choices for the week down at the ole Emporium,hopefully it and most of the downtown mentor village will still be standing come morning. I hear that Inspector clueless has called out the Fusiliers and the Mentor Villiage Civil War retiree's groups to maintain order<uh Oh> Copperkettle has boarded up the Zepplin Sheds, and Boris Leon and H&H have donnned the spiked Helmets and body armour,even Spikes wearing a metal collanderLars-Thanks for picking up the tab for monday morning , we may have to move to the high ground near the Zepplin sheds though.Look teh fusiliers are practicing.Perhaps CM3 and his roving reporter can give us a blow by blow of what has happened.Rob LoveDomes Member sinceJanuary 2006 From: northeast U.S. 1,225 posts Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:37 PM Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waitin' for the bar to open!!Can you believe it My JINTS WON! They are the 2008 Super Bowl Champs 'n played their butts off against the no-longer-perfect-Patriots! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON!Drinks on the Da Larsman come Monday morning throughout the day! And Boris, give the crittAHs double rations too! JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON!Until the next time! Lars siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, February 3, 2008 12:20 PM We are CLOSED on SUNDAYsStarting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . February 3rd thru 9th: Death in Paradise (2006) Starring: Tom Selleck, Edward Edwards, Brendan Kelly, Kerri Smith & Vito Rezza - and - The Longest Yard (2005) Starring: Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Burt Reynolds, Nelly (III) & Walter Williamson. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Pests in a Mess (1945). Death in Paradise (2006)PLOT SUMMARY: The always dependable Tom Selleck returns as Robert B. Parker's small town police chief Jesse Stone in Death in Paradise, the made-for-TV sequel to Stone Cold, his 2005 debut as the character. Stone is a grittier, more human (and vulnerable) role than the one that made Selleck famous (playboy detective Thomas Magnum of Magnum, P.I.), but his tenacity and character flaws (a drinking problem and latent feelings for his ex-wife) seem a comfortable fit for the older Selleck. And the mystery itself--which surrounds the death of a young student whose connections to big-city crime--is crisp and convoluted (if not particularly novel), which provides Selleck with enough action and drama to please his longtime fans. William Devane and Gary Basaraba (Boomtown) are among the guest stars, while Viola Davis, Vito Rezza, and Kohl Sudduth return from Stone Cold as Selleck's police officers. Selleck also contributed to the script and co-produced along with director Robert Harmon, who helmed the other Stone films. --Paul Gaita <from: amazon.com> The Longest Yard (2005)PLOT SUMMARY: Prison inmates form a football team to challenge the prison guards. Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team. <A remake of a 1974 movie starring Burt Reynolds; shown at the Emporium - Jan 21-27, 2007><from: amazon.com> SHORT: The Three Stooges - Booby Dupes (1945)PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help. < Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:43 AM "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.G'day Gents!Yes, "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays - but as has been my practice of late, I try to get a leg up on the ACKNOWLEDGMENTS as they accrue - getting to be a bit "much" for early morning preparation . . . So, here she comes! Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Saturday - Feb 2nd: <all times Central standard>Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 9:31 AM: You were missed on Friday, but understandable when battling headaches - no fun. Hmmmmm, too much of a good time at "that other" pub you frequent frequently Now maybe I'm not feeling sorry for you . . . <grin> "They" say warm beer will induce headaches, dontchano! <uh oh>Used to have a neighbor who drank bock beer - but first he'd pour it into a small pot, heat it up ‘n drink it hot. <yikes> Different strokes, eh Hot poker in cider - now that I've heard of . . . . not in anything else <unless we're speaking of torture!> <uh oh>Another fine < I3 > Post! Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Page 178 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:14 AM ‘n 10:21 AM: Undoubtedly a Rendezvous in Maine would be a fine time - as would one in the Canadian Maritimes - or the Pacific northwest - or Alaska - or the British Isles - or New Zealand - or . . . . <yikes> As the saying goes, "So many gals rail museums, so little time!" <grin>I seriously doubt that my efforts to obtain dome seating for a complete round trip would "work." <frown> I'm a bit surprised at the "policy," in that these days one pays for dome seating at a premium price on excursion trains. If the line is an operating passenger route, then I'm not sure how they go about enforcing such a thing . . . but no need to expound on it. We'll most probably not be making that journey. Nice to think about though . . . Nice fotos, especially the AC shot! <sweet>Snow level has dropped to a bit less than half of what had fallen on Thursday-Friday. Expect by the end of this day it will be all slush ‘n mush. <arrrrrggggghhhhh>Thanx for the visits! Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 11 AM: Fine spate of fotos from your new scanner! Appreciate the write-ups too. Advice: When preparing slides for scanning, be sure to turn your head before sneezing! <grin> Just curious, why are you interested in the St. George Arms Sunday hours Planning a Sunday brunch I better be included!! <uh oh>Pix, chat ‘n ROUND appreciated! Page 178- Lars (LoveDomes) at 12:03 PM: An interesting sequence of UTBs - aside from BK, best to put ‘em on the <back burner> ‘n keep the place movin' on down the line. Find it a tad disturbing to read about the continuing flap over the Patriots "cheating" and so forth. For cripes sakes - if they did what they've been accused of, does it make it any different from what the others have been doing all along Doesn't make it "right," but we hardly live in a perfect world ‘n Lord knows, I'm no where near perfection. The idea is to win - cheating is wrong, wrong, wrong - but only when you get caught so say quite a few. <groan> Amazing that these "revelations" come out just as Super Bowl Sunday is the talk of the town . . . <barf>Let's GO GIANTS! Round ‘n visit most appreciated! Page 178 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:42 PM: As always, a fine inclusive offering from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, February 3, 2008 9:14 AM What ho everyone just in for a quick look around and a quick inventory of teh critters treat loset(s) everything seems in order so Boris a good round of treats for your menagerie and a small jar of PPF for youNick-Nice to see you back at your best mate Are you sure that you weren't out howling by the pub with the rest of the town tough's H&H may have mellowed but they still can get to the truth,<uh oh > they still have thier room full of gear <yikes> How did you get the Zepplin's augmentations part homeland security Those underwear aren't just anyones' "tighty whities" are theyEric-Great photo's sir I love seeing that old mack in use 5xlad you got to teh bottom of the steamer quetion. I think CM3 will be pleased.Rob EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, February 3, 2008 12:20 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, I'll just have a ham sandwich. Have been eating too much today so that should be enough. A cold Tui would be great!I found some interesting stuff here today! I also found my circus train slides, scanned them and they will be found at the bottom of this post. Tom – I did some research today and as far as i can tell the Zephyr Midnight 2000 got its name from the artist who painted the poster, Michael L. Kungl. At least it seems like he added the 2000. But I think we need some deeper research. That poster is still on sale, for $34.65. I found out the identity of that steam locomotive! It is former Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475 and the only known operating 4-8-0 in North America. More info on this link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-8-0_475Very nice photos from the Museum of Transportation! I can’t recall I saw the Missouri Pacific #6210 last year. It looks almost brand new. I recognize the other ones. Pete – The Circus train pix are included in this post. To my big surprise I found them this morning. Did #2253 serve in Poland? In that case it must have been equipped with air brakes and it looks like it has one hose for the air brakes and one for the vacuum brakes. What I dislike most about WalMart are those endless checkout lines. WalMart still has a lot to learn about customer service. That you got lost doesn’t surprise me. Or did you just use your stealth skills? I’ll take it that your photos are scanned using your new scanner? You can let the scanner software remove most of those foreign objects on your photos. There should be a box where you click for Dust removal. I personally don’t use it, I prefer to clean the slides/negatives before the scanning and for whatever is left I use a program like Photoshop to fix them up. You can also adjust so the darker areas of the phots get lighter before you scan them. Interesting photos! Rob – What is a good storm? Not a perfect storm, but a good one? I found out about the steam loco in Boone. See my response to Tom.Nice photos! I like those old cabooses and steam locos! Nickel Plate and Lackawanna. I guess from your comment that you don’t know anything about the locomotives. Do you know anything about the green streetcar in your Boston charter photos? Looks different!Lars – Me, trouble maker? No way, I just want to help! Thanks for the old posts! I miss BK (and lady Lydia) and Al. Never “met” Dan. Al wrote about Texas Eagle, the train we rode last year during the Rendezvous! Allan – I feel pretty much like being back to normal. No pain at all. Just a few soar spots.I found the info on the steam locomotive. See my response to Tom and Nick. Nick – Thanks for the info on the Zeppelins! Should be ready for action pretty soon!?!? Yes, I found out that #475 originally was Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475. Glad to see it is in operating condition. Here are some photos from the World Circus Museum, Baraboo, WI, 1989. They show how they loaded a circus train using trucks and horses. Eric nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:38 PM A quick postscript for ALLAN--Slight confusion there mate-I`m not Welsh-I just live here-was a diabolical performance by the England team-the village girl guides could have done a better job-as to the world cup-we all thought you guys had it in the bag-as usual the French threw us all a curved ball-when they are good they are brilliant(lord it hurts me to say) and they did us a favour by taking out the AB`s and left us with the `boks (an evil bunch by any standards)-but--a bridge too far-I have huge respect for Graham Henry-he never had a chance over here but I will put money on the cup going home with you guys next time round-and deservedly so-here`s to it-take care mate !!-nick nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:04 PM Well good evening Gentlemen all-Thought I would stop in for a few liver liveners after an unusually wild gig in Mentor City`s notorious Goat & Anthrax Tavern-had it not been for H&H`s considerable presence at the front of the stage things could have become quite ugly....Indeed,certain members or the Can-Am track gang are in grave danger of suspension of pool room access unless apologies are forthcomingRight then,Leon-I will take a bottle of the Staropramen from the back of the fridge please and I am sure the gentlemen of the house will join me in a little something.....and perhaps a selection of pizza slices and some side dishes-onion rings,garlic mushrooms,olives & feta cubes,calamari and the bottle of Wow-Wow sauce (with the ice bucket,naturally)So then,whats new hereabouts.....................CAPT TOM--As you so rightly surmise,the only embarrassment I generally suffer is financial-well,looking like I do,one develops a fairly thick skin <grin>,as to pacing myself-I`m on it-it now takes me all night to do what I used to spend all night doing.............but enough of that. Thanks for the explanation of the pic of PETE & JUNEAU-it appeared that PETE was trying to tickle JUNEAU`s tummy from the inside....The St Georges looks like my kinda bar (open)..some (as usual) cracking scans of classic artwork and some fine pix of the varnish-nice to see shots of `the rest of the train` not just the power-nice one mate !! As to ERICS shot of the #475-I noticed a logo on the front of the tender that might give some info-or is that already covered??DL-Am not much of a sports fan myself-is only the 6 nations rugby that lights my lamp-and after todays appalling showing I am keeping a very low profile-the village oiks are gathered outside the club baying and howling as I type this-ugly,very ugly....CM3-Some interesting stuff from coal country there my friend-I have a fondness for the L&N and the area it served,not least `cos of the fine music coming out of that region,couple that to the fine grey & yellow livery (elegant and understated) and what looks like beautiful countryside and you have a hands down winner-work safe yourself mate !!DD1-First off-lack of hindsight-- A WONDERFUL phrase-wish I had thought it up....hot pokers (excuse me ??) no really-is an old Somerset tradition-hot-pokered cider (not the apple juice you guys have over there ,but a fearsome potent brew,mostly served now in a clarified and sweetened form but traditionally a thick cloudy brew of about the same strength as a good white wine,drunk in pints. In it`s classic `farmhouse` form it tastes like vinegar but does the job-the farm boys would take it `pokered` on cold evenings to keep out the chill-have seen big ole landsmen knock back 16 pints of the stuff at a sitting and roll home apparently none the worse for wear-was a cider man myself for many years but discovered early on that I had an 8 pint limit-more than that and I would make a fool of myself....................now-tanks & transporters-last time I passed our local station yard (Haverfordwest) there was a rake of heavy duty flats on the long siding with a 4-wheel flat next to the stops with a pair of wheels removed to make a ramp-presumably this was bringing in a load of tanks to the Army ranges at Castlemartin-all the cars had D.R (German) markings and were painted in khaki drab,and as you suggest,had platforms connecting each car-to my shame I was without a camera ,and the next time I passed they had gone-although the ramp wagon is still there and will catch it next time .....ROB-How ya likin the white stuff my man ?? -sister reported about a foot fallen on friday morning with more to come-sounded a bit extreme until I watched a prog about the truckers driving the ice road up from Yellowknife to the De Beers plants-now they are some seriously crazy f*****s-you couldn`t pay me enough for that gig--wild..........Nice job with the pix of the black bear line-shame you cant still do the round trip up to Hearst,across to Cochrane and back down on the O.N.R-now that would be a ride.............P.S-got a whole new take on mens underwear -aint she a honey..(hehehehe)ERIC--`tis true,both the front-line Zeppelins (the Draig Goch & the Spirit of `76 ) have been out of service after H&H retro-fitted them with 40mm cannons stripped from Focke-Wulfe 190`s they found in a museum-the increase in weight and alteration of the balance proved prohibitive--happily,after much burning of midnight oil,the engineers at the Dyfed Dirigible Design Shop have triumphed and the substitution of Rolls-Royce `Merlin` power plants has done the trick-expect a delivery of Bathams Mild,Guinness and a trial barrel of Somerset `farmhouse rough` any day now...........PETE--Not sure about the `sustrans`,although when I lived in Bristol (some 20 years ago) I took a regular sunday walk along the Bristol-Bath section most weeks -would certainly make a cracking walking trail,although I imagine the tunnels (especially Combe Down) could get a bit spooky...used to walk down to Farleigh Hungerford every year for the folk festival-took 3 days from Clevedon,camping out on the way-lovely country-Englands green and pleasant land at its finest..........Cracking shots of the 150 cavalcade-I have the official book upstairs somewhere although your pix are rather better-isn`t that just the most elegant machinery one could wish for-a perfect mix of form and function................lovelyLARS--welcome back from your travels mate-I hope it was a successful mission,glad to see you are keeping the house in order-don`t know what you have done to the staff but whenever your name is mentioned Boris & Copperkettle become disturbingly servile and H&H start purring and swapping meaningful looks..........................................Right-I have a complaint-now when a gentleman visits the bathroom he should be able to leave his drink & bowl of peanuts without fear of interference-it`s that bloody parrot isnt it---AWK-get away from there -you are 10 seconds away from being the worlds worst tasting kebab..........Right-another round please Leon and -what the heck,break out the rum-tis saturday after all-will try and get some pix together soon-to be honest,is so long since I`ve done it,I `ve forgotten how(as the actress said to the bishop)O.K-gonna sit in a corner and listen to Herr Wurlitzer for a while ( is that Curved Air`s `Back street love ` I hear)--Have a good weekend you all,will drop in soon-Leon-here`s a $20 for the next round-and some more tunes-be good folks,love to allNick trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, February 2, 2008 8:00 PM Hey nice to see Allan pop in while I was busy two finger typing Glad that you liked the big loop article , I'll dig out a few more of them here and there just to keep everything moving along. Well guys here's a couple more pics for evryone to enjoy , these were from a couple charters that we did a decade or so ago. All from the Boston charter 1992 EnjoyRob trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, February 2, 2008 7:53 PM Good evening Leon. I think a large guiness of and what the heck a meatball sandwich on those nice fresh "hoggie" rolls. I see that lars has seen to the critter's , nio Boris you don't need another jar of PPF <sheesh> you have already refilled Zep one with your gas Just got in from work but had to clean all the snowplow left "marbles" from the end of the drivewayPete-Lovely steam pics sir , great looking units one and all Lars-Couple nice re-runs from the UTB crowd , nice to see that we can still put up the good stuff. I hope that we do see more of Nick as the humour is always welcome good luck tomorrow , personally I hope the Gints ruin the Pats perfect season.Tom-Great pile o passenger cars sir,some really nicly restored equipment good to see. Here's a few more pics for the guys,hey Leon could I get a top up sir thank-you.A couple goodies I took photo's off just outside of Buffalo , I'm assuming it's a small museum or Historical society I'm just not sure.EnjoyRob Gunneral Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: NZ 242 posts Posted by Gunneral on Saturday, February 2, 2008 7:42 PM Hi Tom and all,Hi Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please!Rob. Many thanks for the re post of your Big Loop write up, it was very interesting, and for more of your Grampa`s pics and all your other great pics here and over on the other thread.Eric. Sounds as if you are getting back to your normal self now, enjoyed all your comments and pics, that 4-8-0 loco was very interesting, not a very common wheel arrangement, good to see Tom was able to come up with the info on it.Pete. Many thanks for those pics of the Shildon parade in 1975, they were all "keepers", had to open a new Trains folder for them! Looking forward to your next selection. Nice pics of the #2253 US army loco too. That was a nice pic of you and Juneau at Tom`s place.Mike. Got to drive the original WWII Willy`s Jeep in Hong Kong in the mid 50`s, we did`nt have any Land Rover`s then, Bedford 3 tonners`[Brit GM] were similar to your deuce and a half, Supply clerks` were called Quartermaster`s clerks` in the Brit army, you had to keep in sweet with them or you had trouble accquiring new kit! Like you I had a great time BITD of my army service overseas.Nick. Everything is AOK down here in NZ, except that the whole country is still in self denial over the Rugby World Cup result, their was a great nashing of teeth when the AB`s were knocked out of the comp by Le Cockerals! See that congratulations are in order to you for Wales`s win at Twickers this AM, looks as if Gatland is going to be a better coach than Graham Henry was, I will not mention that they are both Kiwi`s of course! Enjoyed all of your posts`.CM3. Thanks for the very informative synopsis on the latest Classic Trains issue, I can only manage to get a copy now and again at a bookstore in Hastings 30 miles north of here, enjoyed all the info in your posts`.Ron. Nice to see you on board again, like you I enjoyed Mike`s post on `Nam and those links he posted, it was great to be young BITD, ah memories eh?Dan. Thanks for that link to the Beavertail coaches`, had a good look around those insides on the site, I must confess that the original curved Beavertail looked a whole lot better than the BR re-builds which to me look like the old GWR railcars? At least they have been saved and restored.Lars. Nice to see you on board again, sounds as if you are having a very relaxing time down on the Key`s, enjoyed all the classic writing in the 2005 re-post`s.Tom. Enjoyed all of your info and pics, nice re-post of Rob`s trolley pics, the 6 pack #9 of RR posters`, the real nice selection of coach and car pics from the Rendezvous II visit to Kirkwood museum, must be great to have such a great train collection handy close by? Thanks for that nice link to the trolley museum as well. You sound a lot happier now you`ve had some of that SNOW at your place, hope it does`nt thaw too quickly. Real nice pic of Pete and Juneau in your train room. siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, February 2, 2008 2:44 PM This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!I see Wolfman has made it back to the bar . . . hope the headaches are gone. Also the Larsman is baaaaaaack! And our trolleyMAN up in Ontario is up 'n about the decks! A fine Saturday indeed, Gents - have one on me! Ring it, Boris!!Emporium Theatre selections to be Posted on Sunday . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Here's a spate of fotos seen before from Rendezvous II (May 2007) all taken at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <Kirkwood, MO> . . . . Missouri Pacific #6210. Coach (steel) - built in 1924 by American Car & Foundry. Illinois Central #30. Dynamometer Test Car - built in 1943 by Illinois Central. Gulf, Mobile & Ohio #5998. Parlor-observation - built in 1935 by American Car & Foundry. Chicago, Burlington & Quincy #192 "Silver Spoon. " Dining car - built in 1938 by Budd. Chesapeake & Ohio #970 "City Tavern." Dining Car - built in 1925 by Pullman. Northern Pacific sleeper/lounge car <no further info> Pullman "St. Carvan." Sleeper <heavyweight> - built in 1923 by Pullman.<There's Stealthy Pete!!>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Enjoy! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo « First«12131415161718»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Good day Tom and all present at the bar by the siding. Please give a round of drinks.
Nick: Thanks for straightening me out about the hot poker thing.
Tom: Down here in the south, they call hoagies, grinders and heroes "po-boys". One of the most famous being fried shrimp mixed with mayo and stuffed onto a soft roll. Very similar to a Maine lobster roll, but shrimp instead.
Glad to hear your Jints won. I couldn't watch the game as my TV service wants a lot of money to watch "premium" channels. It seems that TV is moving away from free broadcasting, as there doesn't seem to be very much to watch anymore. Call me cheap, but I refuse to pay for programming, I used to get for free. I subscribe to a "basic" satellite service and that's it. If I had my way, I wouldn't have a TV at all, but the missus wants it. Radio suits me just fine.
I haven't gotten around to looking at the latest posts, but hope the following edition of the Events of 1936 will give food for thought. As I went through this list, I discovered much that I didn't know.
Courtesy of Wikipedia
The Allen Paper Wheel was introduced in 1869. It had a centre core built up from strawboard with steel or iron plates bolted on the front and rear. It was widely used in North America between 1880 and 1915. The original invention was as a substitute for the wood core of wheels with steel tires. Compressed paper was substituted for wood at the core. When compressed it was said to be as hard as ivory yet soft enough to cushion the ride and reduce wheel noise and vibration. Pullman tested the wheels and eventually adopted them as standard. A "Paper Wheel" would have a ring of bolts all around the wheel center. (Thanks to Paul Bown and Steve Hunter for this explanation). I had mentioned previously about there being a prototype for everything. The wheels for my locomotive are made of plywood. I may/may not wrap the treads with brass strips.
I'll have a pint (and I'll have a Sheppy's Somerset Cider since Nick reminds me of how good they are) - whilst trying to return to the post I did not get finished before. Mind you - spotted those great pics of cars at the museum you posted - they are nicely finished and protected indoors of course.
Nick - Just caught your more recent post where you mention the ONR - Round trip - I guess you will have missed it, but I did the ONR Toronto - Moosonee trip in late summer (trip report posted on these pages). You could do the round trip - but you'd have to use an ONR bus from Cochrane to Hearst (perfectly feasible as I saw the bus) - rails still used that way it looked to me - just not for passengers. Anyway - I took a copy of that railway magazine article from 1963 (?) you scanned for me along with me and gave a copy to the very friendly ONR folks at their Cochrane HQ for their interest. (Tom might know how to find my trip report on prev pages - not sure I know).
CM3 - looks like you've got a load of weather!
Rob - I see some Redcoats in those pictures! Enjoyed those ACR shots too.
Ron - VW Karman Ghia - that was a nice car! There's one in my town I see from time to time being driven about, painted in maroon.
On the subject of hot pokers in ale I've seen a chap do this once in a pub - but he was real ‘bar bullxxxter' who kept doing it to draw attention to himself - so I was not going to ask him why. I assume you'd do it in winter if your beer from the cellar was too cold due to climate (Tom, I know your going to be aggrieved at this concept...). Of course you can use Smokeless coal in a smoke free area Pete!
Lars - hope all's well down on the Keys - looks like you are not missing the sport!
Allan - interesting to read that your family pushed you in the direction of the Army rather than underground (not to say you didn't have your own preferences anyway) - just goes to show how dangerous mining was considered to be if life in the military in the cold war period was seen as lower risk!
You are right about the Beavertail - the BR rebuild does look like a GWR railcar, apparently he original design did not actually offer a very good view to the people inside it hence the rebuild for use in Scotland in the 1950s.
For comparison:
BR rebuild (as recently restored on GCR)
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10173788&wwwflag=2&imagepos=1
LNER original build (to be restored on GCR like this)
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10459955&wwwflag=2&imagepos=4
GWR railcar (later design)
http://www.kesr.org.uk/diesel_locos/20.htm
GWR railcar - original shape
http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/grcwandd.htm
The second of the 2 surviving beavertails is to be restored to the original LNER shape. This has been moved from Carnforth down to Barrow Hill near Chesterfield for store prior to start of restoration work according to chap I asked at Loughborough GCR the other weekend.
Eric - you mentioned scanning slides regarding dirt on them to Pete - I had a query as I have some old family slides which are dirty - I can imagine dry dust should be dealt with using a camera lens brush - but some have more ingrained dirt (inc small mould spores which is a problem from damp English houses) - any idea how to clean them without damaging them - I was thinking of asking for professional advice but fear it might "gag a healthy maggot" to pay someone to do it!
Pete - I bet you wish you'd kept that Rugby departure poster - I enjoy reading the one they have on display at Loughborough from the old Nottingham Victoria station - departures right though the night - many to far flung destinations like Hastings leaving at 12.45am etc.
I like the BR blue livery too - seen a Merchant Navy at GCR in it I think - they must have decided it would take too much cleaning and went for the dark green all too quickly, but the blue is good, as shown on that A4.
Yes, it was a good day at the GCR gala - sunny and cold.
For Rob's amusement I'm going to post the loco list WITH NUMBERS!
LMS 4F 44422 ; GWR 4141 large Prairie ; SR King Arthur 30777 ; BR Std Cl 2 78019 ; GWR Hall 4953 ; LMS 8F 48305
On other matter's you've asked about Pete I did my best to find out - so here goes:
I think they could do 60mph at Quorn with no passengers on board as they have the line tamped up since they allowed Network Rail engineers to train on it and got the line tamped for speed as part of the deal. The sound of the approaching train was superb
Some of the windcutters look like they need a lick of paint now, but the rake is still impressive. You must have been pleased to see the fruits of your donation.
Other things at the GCR of note was a display about a plan to rebuild a replica of a Victorian GCR design (GCR Class 2 or what became an LNER D7 4-4-0) - using a spare boiler of suitable outline. This was alongside info on restoring vintage carriages. They seem to have a variety of teak bodied pre 1939 LNER carriages in various states of dereliction at Swithland. Then they have about 3 or 4 GCR Barnums (so named because the look like the cars used by the Barnum and Bailey Circus troupe of the period) - these have been moved to GCR Nottingham site for restoration - some work has been done but I don't think any are finished. Some more details are:
http://www.gcr-rollingstocktrust.co.uk/articles_output.asp?id=11&checkSource=sitemap
They also have some vintage GCR wooden suburban carriages which are also in a fairly frail state. They would like to run them behind the 4-4-0 if the can be renovated.
They have a plan to build a traditional brick carriage shed at Swithland on the old quarry siding branch and are trying to raise £50k to clear the site and lay track. They have recently cut down self seeded trees on this so you can see the line of the siding.
On the subject of the Workington loco shed they have a good model in the Loughborough station museum of the proposed reconstruction - it looks good, and looks large! The main problem here seems to be the construction of access to the proposed site - including rebuilding the canal bridge and another bridge over stream. I honestly don't know how they can manage such a large project but clearly they intend to do so. It will be a world class locomotive restoration facility.
Meanwhile the factory next to the GC station at Loughborough has been demolished for a housing development. This must have been the station goods yard. The old goods shed (GC shed) has not been demolished so maybe the GCR own this and can link it to their tracks? It is large and would make a good carriage storage shed or similar. A house style building at the edge of the site (clearly what was once the GCR goods offices, opposite the hotel) is also the only other building on the site not cleared, so maybe the property developer intends to turn this into flats and keep it.
On a final matter - your mention of EE Class 20 diesels reminds me of my student days when they would head coal trains along the line at the end of the road from the house we rented - we were only about 75 meters away from the line and the house would shake when they went past. About 3 runs per day from Notts collieries to Toton yard. They certainly sounded like helicopters so deserved the ‘chopper' nick name. At this time this was the only traffic on this route, but since then it has been re-opened to passengers use as part of the Robin Hood line to Worksop.
Britannia was in the shed stripped to frames but looking like it was ready to start putting back together - they need to get this ready for August for the 15 Guinea special commemorations do they not - the loco has outlived BR!!
Cheerio
Ps - By the way trial running of the new A1 Tornado steam loco is to be held on the GCR this year - should be in Sept if all goes to plan - see: http://www.a1steam.com/update.html
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Artie, fly up and check the lightning rods, please. We just had a ferocious thunderstorm (purple lightning was a nice touch - no, Boris, it's not what we toasted the Giants with last night), so we are a tad late this a.m.
LARS - Yes, they did! Lights burned late in the east wing last night, believe me! Thanks to OSP for appropriate recognition this a.m.
DL visited with comments - good to hear from you.
Rob sent a lot of material "Mat-ta-wan" is, of course, in New Jersey.
Enjoyed the pictures taken behind the old Erie station at Hamburg, NY. Track is still active. The cabs and I1s all belong to the Western NY Railroad Historical Society which is a quite large and active group. You can Google the name and listen to the locomotive whistles on their website. Also look at their other buildings, etc. BTW, Straits Shows unloads just to the right of where you made your pictures. I was at Seashore yrs. ago - well remember riding them open cars.
Interesting pictures in Boston - type 5 and an LRV. The former has survived the latter cars.
DD1 visited as well. I did see the tank restoration story awhile back. They have lots of toys and a big shop area as well. The turret removal and restoration on (for the life of me I can't remember the name, but it was a UK tank), was fascinating.
Nick - Good to hear from you - Now we have ZAG (Zeppelin Airship Restoration Group). The Greater Mentor Airship Observation Corps is waiting to stagger into action at the first report of any suspicious activity.
BTW, I know you probably didn't bother with the Super Bowl at all, but FEDEX did have an inspired ad on use of carrier pigeons for shipping goods - wonder what they were consuming when they made that one - hope you get to see it sometime as you would truly appreciate it.
Eric - Mack trucks, work horses, friction bearings - life is good - thanks for the pictures.
Pete was by with some truly vintage items. A compound 4-4-0; not something you see every day.
OSP - Travel via New York or Washington - Can see the P Company slogan now. The ancient and honorable one in our family took a trip to Columbus, OH back during WW2 - coach of course - double headed K4s over Horseshoe, and took advantage of the side routing to Washington to go to the opening of the National Gallery. He said the paintings were well worth seeing, but so was the show west of Altoona.
Tug is an excellent game, but the K9 Korps prefers fetch - this involves chasing stuff and then burying it, or sometimes bringing it back to repeat the process.
A set of action ‘moom pichers at the Theatuh - bring it on! Last, the 4-8-0 was, indeed, around on the N&W for a long time. It's Boris's favorite locomotive class, "Mastodon," of course.
A smile to begin the week!
Why buy good luggage? You only use it when you travel..
<A Yogi-ism!>
It's THAT day again - MONDAY! <arrrrgggghhhh> But a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do - so drag yourself in here, kick start the day with a mugga Joe, a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast. That should help ya!
Congrats to the Super Bowl Champion Giants! <who wudda thunk it, eh >
Sunday- Feb 3rd: <all times Central standard>
Page 179 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:37 PM: SELL-A-BRAY-SHUN!
Page 179 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:54 PM: Back with concern for the well-being of "Our" Place after the "upset of upsets"! Great looking shots of the Home Guard - kinda strange that Mentor Village would erupt in such a manner - after all, "our" team, Mentor Marauders weren't involved. Hmmmmmm.
Great to see ya!
Monday - Feb 4th:
Page 179 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:11 AM: In with some brief commentary ‘n a fine looking model circus foto! Thought you'd still be at the stadium - enjoying the party atmosphere in that private suite you were spotted in. And WHO was the "brunette," hmmmmm
Appreciate the visit!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Hmm, at least it is not snowing this dark Sunday evening/Monday morning. Where is... oh, there it is. Down with this note and back home again.
Rob – Glad you liked the photos! I am sorry I couldn’t provide the sound of that old truck! I found the steamer from Boone right away when I Googled. It found a new life in Strasburg. Did the war start? Let’s hope our Super Reporter CM3 can tell us the whole story.Tom – I think that artist added 2000 when he painted the poster, just to make it look even more futuristic. As you already mentioned, let’s spend some time on that topic in May at the library. Two fine movies for this week at the Emporium! Death in Paradise and Longest Yard! Plus, of course, the Three Stooges!
Maybe something for Can Am Railway? A circus train and a circus!Lars – I know, I know, Jints won! As a matter of fact I was hoping they were going to win, but don’t tell anyone. Eric
Just popped in to make sure that the pool room's intact after the upset of upsets Gongrats to the Gints and to our Manager who nevah gave up on them. Perfect Smerfect I alway's say
Tom-Great movie choices for the week down at the ole Emporium,hopefully it and most of the downtown mentor village will still be standing come morning. I hear that Inspector clueless has called out the Fusiliers and the Mentor Villiage Civil War retiree's groups to maintain order<uh Oh> Copperkettle has boarded up the Zepplin Sheds, and Boris Leon and H&H have donnned the spiked Helmets and body armour,even Spikes wearing a metal collander
Lars-Thanks for picking up the tab for monday morning , we may have to move to the high ground near the Zepplin sheds though.Look teh fusiliers are practicing.
Perhaps CM3 and his roving reporter can give us a blow by blow of what has happened.
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waitin' for the bar to open!!
Can you believe it My JINTS WON! They are the 2008 Super Bowl Champs 'n played their butts off against the no-longer-perfect-Patriots!
JINTS WON! JINTS WON! JINTS WON!
Drinks on the Da Larsman come Monday morning throughout the day!
And Boris, give the crittAHs double rations too!
Until the next time!
Lars
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . February 3rd thru 9th: Death in Paradise (2006) Starring: Tom Selleck, Edward Edwards, Brendan Kelly, Kerri Smith & Vito Rezza - and - The Longest Yard (2005) Starring: Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Burt Reynolds, Nelly (III) & Walter Williamson. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Pests in a Mess (1945).
Death in Paradise (2006)
PLOT SUMMARY: The always dependable Tom Selleck returns as Robert B. Parker's small town police chief Jesse Stone in Death in Paradise, the made-for-TV sequel to Stone Cold, his 2005 debut as the character. Stone is a grittier, more human (and vulnerable) role than the one that made Selleck famous (playboy detective Thomas Magnum of Magnum, P.I.), but his tenacity and character flaws (a drinking problem and latent feelings for his ex-wife) seem a comfortable fit for the older Selleck. And the mystery itself--which surrounds the death of a young student whose connections to big-city crime--is crisp and convoluted (if not particularly novel), which provides Selleck with enough action and drama to please his longtime fans. William Devane and Gary Basaraba (Boomtown) are among the guest stars, while Viola Davis, Vito Rezza, and Kohl Sudduth return from Stone Cold as Selleck's police officers. Selleck also contributed to the script and co-produced along with director Robert Harmon, who helmed the other Stone films. --Paul Gaita
The always dependable Tom Selleck returns as Robert B. Parker's small town police chief Jesse Stone in Death in Paradise, the made-for-TV sequel to Stone Cold, his 2005 debut as the character. Stone is a grittier, more human (and vulnerable) role than the one that made Selleck famous (playboy detective Thomas Magnum of Magnum, P.I.), but his tenacity and character flaws (a drinking problem and latent feelings for his ex-wife) seem a comfortable fit for the older Selleck. And the mystery itself--which surrounds the death of a young student whose connections to big-city crime--is crisp and convoluted (if not particularly novel), which provides Selleck with enough action and drama to please his longtime fans. William Devane and Gary Basaraba (Boomtown) are among the guest stars, while Viola Davis, Vito Rezza, and Kohl Sudduth return from Stone Cold as Selleck's police officers. Selleck also contributed to the script and co-produced along with director Robert Harmon, who helmed the other Stone films. --Paul Gaita
The Longest Yard (2005)
PLOT SUMMARY: Prison inmates form a football team to challenge the prison guards. Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team. <A remake of a 1974 movie starring Burt Reynolds; shown at the Emporium - Jan 21-27, 2007>
Prison inmates form a football team to challenge the prison guards. Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team.
Paul "Wrecking" Crewe was a revered football superstar back in his day, but that time has since faded. But when a messy drunk driving incident lands him in jail, Paul finds he was specifically requested by Warden Hazen (James Cromwell), a duplicitous prison official well aware of Paul's athletic skills. Paul has been assigned the task of assembling a team of convicts, to square off in a big football game against the sadistic guards. With the help of fellow convict Caretaker, and an old legend named Nate Scarborough to coach, Crewe is ready for what promises to be a very interesting game. It's only the warden and the guards who have no idea who or what they're up against, with Paul the driving force behind the new team.
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Booby Dupes (1945)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help. < Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
The Stooges again run a fish business. Curly suggests that they buy a boat to catch their own fish. "That would eliminate the middleman and the profit would all be ours." They buy sailor outfits, with Curly masquerading in a real Captain's uniform, and then are mistaken for Japanese when their boat sinks and they have to raise a paint-splattered rag to signal for help. < Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
"Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Yes, "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays - but as has been my practice of late, I try to get a leg up on the ACKNOWLEDGMENTS as they accrue - getting to be a bit "much" for early morning preparation . . . So, here she comes!
Saturday - Feb 2nd: <all times Central standard>
Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 9:31 AM: You were missed on Friday, but understandable when battling headaches - no fun. Hmmmmm, too much of a good time at "that other" pub you frequent frequently Now maybe I'm not feeling sorry for you . . . <grin> "They" say warm beer will induce headaches, dontchano! <uh oh>
Used to have a neighbor who drank bock beer - but first he'd pour it into a small pot, heat it up ‘n drink it hot. <yikes> Different strokes, eh Hot poker in cider - now that I've heard of . . . . not in anything else <unless we're speaking of torture!> <uh oh>
Another fine < I3 > Post! Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 178 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:14 AM ‘n 10:21 AM: Undoubtedly a Rendezvous in Maine would be a fine time - as would one in the Canadian Maritimes - or the Pacific northwest - or Alaska - or the British Isles - or New Zealand - or . . . . <yikes> As the saying goes, "So many gals rail museums, so little time!" <grin>
I seriously doubt that my efforts to obtain dome seating for a complete round trip would "work." <frown> I'm a bit surprised at the "policy," in that these days one pays for dome seating at a premium price on excursion trains. If the line is an operating passenger route, then I'm not sure how they go about enforcing such a thing . . . but no need to expound on it. We'll most probably not be making that journey. Nice to think about though . . .
Nice fotos, especially the AC shot! <sweet>
Snow level has dropped to a bit less than half of what had fallen on Thursday-Friday. Expect by the end of this day it will be all slush ‘n mush. <arrrrrggggghhhhh>
Thanx for the visits!
Page 178 - Pete (pwolfe) at 11 AM: Fine spate of fotos from your new scanner! Appreciate the write-ups too.
Advice: When preparing slides for scanning, be sure to turn your head before sneezing! <grin>
Just curious, why are you interested in the St. George Arms Sunday hours Planning a Sunday brunch I better be included!! <uh oh>
Pix, chat ‘n ROUND appreciated!
Page 178- Lars (LoveDomes) at 12:03 PM: An interesting sequence of UTBs - aside from BK, best to put ‘em on the <back burner> ‘n keep the place movin' on down the line.
Find it a tad disturbing to read about the continuing flap over the Patriots "cheating" and so forth. For cripes sakes - if they did what they've been accused of, does it make it any different from what the others have been doing all along Doesn't make it "right," but we hardly live in a perfect world ‘n Lord knows, I'm no where near perfection. The idea is to win - cheating is wrong, wrong, wrong - but only when you get caught so say quite a few. <groan> Amazing that these "revelations" come out just as Super Bowl Sunday is the talk of the town . . . <barf>
Let's GO GIANTS!
Round ‘n visit most appreciated!
Page 178 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:42 PM: As always, a fine inclusive offering from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection!
What ho everyone just in for a quick look around and a quick inventory of teh critters treat loset(s) everything seems in order so Boris a good round of treats for your menagerie and a small jar of PPF for you
Nick-Nice to see you back at your best mate Are you sure that you weren't out howling by the pub with the rest of the town tough's H&H may have mellowed but they still can get to the truth,<uh oh > they still have thier room full of gear <yikes> How did you get the Zepplin's augmentations part homeland security
Those underwear aren't just anyones' "tighty whities" are they
Eric-Great photo's sir I love seeing that old mack in use 5xlad you got to teh bottom of the steamer quetion. I think CM3 will be pleased.
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I'll just have a ham sandwich. Have been eating too much today so that should be enough. A cold Tui would be great!
I found some interesting stuff here today! I also found my circus train slides, scanned them and they will be found at the bottom of this post.
Tom – I did some research today and as far as i can tell the Zephyr Midnight 2000 got its name from the artist who painted the poster, Michael L. Kungl. At least it seems like he added the 2000. But I think we need some deeper research. That poster is still on sale, for $34.65. I found out the identity of that steam locomotive! It is former Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475 and the only known operating 4-8-0 in North America. More info on this link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-8-0_475Very nice photos from the Museum of Transportation! I can’t recall I saw the Missouri Pacific #6210 last year. It looks almost brand new. I recognize the other ones. Pete – The Circus train pix are included in this post. To my big surprise I found them this morning. Did #2253 serve in Poland? In that case it must have been equipped with air brakes and it looks like it has one hose for the air brakes and one for the vacuum brakes. What I dislike most about WalMart are those endless checkout lines. WalMart still has a lot to learn about customer service. That you got lost doesn’t surprise me. Or did you just use your stealth skills? I’ll take it that your photos are scanned using your new scanner? You can let the scanner software remove most of those foreign objects on your photos. There should be a box where you click for Dust removal. I personally don’t use it, I prefer to clean the slides/negatives before the scanning and for whatever is left I use a program like Photoshop to fix them up. You can also adjust so the darker areas of the phots get lighter before you scan them. Interesting photos! Rob – What is a good storm? Not a perfect storm, but a good one? I found out about the steam loco in Boone. See my response to Tom.Nice photos! I like those old cabooses and steam locos! Nickel Plate and Lackawanna. I guess from your comment that you don’t know anything about the locomotives. Do you know anything about the green streetcar in your Boston charter photos? Looks different!Lars – Me, trouble maker? No way, I just want to help! Thanks for the old posts! I miss BK (and lady Lydia) and Al. Never “met” Dan. Al wrote about Texas Eagle, the train we rode last year during the Rendezvous! Allan – I feel pretty much like being back to normal. No pain at all. Just a few soar spots.I found the info on the steam locomotive. See my response to Tom and Nick. Nick – Thanks for the info on the Zeppelins! Should be ready for action pretty soon!?!? Yes, I found out that #475 originally was Norfolk & Western #475 M class 4-8-0. It is today Strasburg Rail Road #475. Glad to see it is in operating condition.
Here are some photos from the World Circus Museum, Baraboo, WI, 1989. They show how they loaded a circus train using trucks and horses.
Eric
A quick postscript for ALLAN--
Slight confusion there mate-I`m not Welsh-I just live here-was a diabolical performance by the England team-the village girl guides could have done a better job-as to the world cup-we all thought you guys had it in the bag-as usual the French threw us all a curved ball-when they are good they are brilliant(lord it hurts me to say) and they did us a favour by taking out the AB`s and left us with the `boks (an evil bunch by any standards)-but--a bridge too far-I have huge respect for Graham Henry-he never had a chance over here but I will put money on the cup going home with you guys next time round-and deservedly so-here`s to it-take care mate !!-nick
Well good evening Gentlemen all-Thought I would stop in for a few liver liveners after an unusually wild gig in Mentor City`s notorious Goat & Anthrax Tavern-had it not been for H&H`s considerable presence at the front of the stage things could have become quite ugly....Indeed,certain members or the Can-Am track gang are in grave danger of suspension of pool room access unless apologies are forthcoming
Right then,Leon-I will take a bottle of the Staropramen from the back of the fridge please and I am sure the gentlemen of the house will join me in a little something.....and perhaps a selection of pizza slices and some side dishes-onion rings,garlic mushrooms,olives & feta cubes,calamari and the bottle of Wow-Wow sauce (with the ice bucket,naturally)
So then,whats new hereabouts.....................
CAPT TOM--As you so rightly surmise,the only embarrassment I generally suffer is financial-well,looking like I do,one develops a fairly thick skin <grin>,as to pacing myself-I`m on it-it now takes me all night to do what I used to spend all night doing.............but enough of that. Thanks for the explanation of the pic of PETE & JUNEAU-it appeared that PETE was trying to tickle JUNEAU`s tummy from the inside....The St Georges looks like my kinda bar (open)..some (as usual) cracking scans of classic artwork and some fine pix of the varnish-nice to see shots of `the rest of the train` not just the power-nice one mate !! As to ERICS shot of the #475-I noticed a logo on the front of the tender that might give some info-or is that already covered??
DL-Am not much of a sports fan myself-is only the 6 nations rugby that lights my lamp-and after todays appalling showing I am keeping a very low profile-the village oiks are gathered outside the club baying and howling as I type this-ugly,very ugly....
CM3-Some interesting stuff from coal country there my friend-I have a fondness for the L&N and the area it served,not least `cos of the fine music coming out of that region,couple that to the fine grey & yellow livery (elegant and understated) and what looks like beautiful countryside and you have a hands down winner-work safe yourself mate !!
DD1-First off-lack of hindsight-- A WONDERFUL phrase-wish I had thought it up....hot pokers (excuse me ??) no really-is an old Somerset tradition-hot-pokered cider (not the apple juice you guys have over there ,but a fearsome potent brew,mostly served now in a clarified and sweetened form but traditionally a thick cloudy brew of about the same strength as a good white wine,drunk in pints. In it`s classic `farmhouse` form it tastes like vinegar but does the job-the farm boys would take it `pokered` on cold evenings to keep out the chill-have seen big ole landsmen knock back 16 pints of the stuff at a sitting and roll home apparently none the worse for wear-was a cider man myself for many years but discovered early on that I had an 8 pint limit-more than that and I would make a fool of myself....................now-tanks & transporters-last time I passed our local station yard (Haverfordwest) there was a rake of heavy duty flats on the long siding with a 4-wheel flat next to the stops with a pair of wheels removed to make a ramp-presumably this was bringing in a load of tanks to the Army ranges at Castlemartin-all the cars had D.R (German) markings and were painted in khaki drab,and as you suggest,had platforms connecting each car-to my shame I was without a camera ,and the next time I passed they had gone-although the ramp wagon is still there and will catch it next time .....
ROB-How ya likin the white stuff my man ?? -sister reported about a foot fallen on friday morning with more to come-sounded a bit extreme until I watched a prog about the truckers driving the ice road up from Yellowknife to the De Beers plants-now they are some seriously crazy f*****s-you couldn`t pay me enough for that gig--wild..........Nice job with the pix of the black bear line-shame you cant still do the round trip up to Hearst,across to Cochrane and back down on the O.N.R-now that would be a ride.............P.S-got a whole new take on mens underwear -aint she a honey..(hehehehe)
ERIC--`tis true,both the front-line Zeppelins (the Draig Goch & the Spirit of `76 ) have been out of service after H&H retro-fitted them with 40mm cannons stripped from Focke-Wulfe 190`s they found in a museum-the increase in weight and alteration of the balance proved prohibitive--happily,after much burning of midnight oil,the engineers at the Dyfed Dirigible Design Shop have triumphed and the substitution of Rolls-Royce `Merlin` power plants has done the trick-expect a delivery of Bathams Mild,Guinness and a trial barrel of Somerset `farmhouse rough` any day now...........
PETE--Not sure about the `sustrans`,although when I lived in Bristol (some 20 years ago) I took a regular sunday walk along the Bristol-Bath section most weeks -would certainly make a cracking walking trail,although I imagine the tunnels (especially Combe Down) could get a bit spooky...used to walk down to Farleigh Hungerford every year for the folk festival-took 3 days from Clevedon,camping out on the way-lovely country-Englands green and pleasant land at its finest..........Cracking shots of the 150 cavalcade-I have the official book upstairs somewhere although your pix are rather better-isn`t that just the most elegant machinery one could wish for-a perfect mix of form and function................lovely
LARS--welcome back from your travels mate-I hope it was a successful mission,glad to see you are keeping the house in order-don`t know what you have done to the staff but whenever your name is mentioned Boris & Copperkettle become disturbingly servile and H&H start purring and swapping meaningful looks..........................................
Right-I have a complaint-now when a gentleman visits the bathroom he should be able to leave his drink & bowl of peanuts without fear of interference-it`s that bloody parrot isnt it---AWK-get away from there -you are 10 seconds away from being the worlds worst tasting kebab..........
Right-another round please Leon and -what the heck,break out the rum-tis saturday after all-will try and get some pix together soon-to be honest,is so long since I`ve done it,I `ve forgotten how(as the actress said to the bishop)
O.K-gonna sit in a corner and listen to Herr Wurlitzer for a while ( is that Curved Air`s `Back street love ` I hear)--Have a good weekend you all,will drop in soon-Leon-here`s a $20 for the next round-and some more tunes-be good folks,love to all
Nick
Hey nice to see Allan pop in while I was busy two finger typing Glad that you liked the big loop article , I'll dig out a few more of them here and there just to keep everything moving along. Well guys here's a couple more pics for evryone to enjoy , these were from a couple charters that we did a decade or so ago.
All from the Boston charter 1992
Enjoy
Good evening Leon. I think a large guiness of and what the heck a meatball sandwich on those nice fresh "hoggie" rolls. I see that lars has seen to the critter's , nio Boris you don't need another jar of PPF <sheesh> you have already refilled Zep one with your gas Just got in from work but had to clean all the snowplow left "marbles" from the end of the driveway
Pete-Lovely steam pics sir , great looking units one and all
Lars-Couple nice re-runs from the UTB crowd , nice to see that we can still put up the good stuff. I hope that we do see more of Nick as the humour is always welcome good luck tomorrow , personally I hope the Gints ruin the Pats perfect season.
Tom-Great pile o passenger cars sir,some really nicly restored equipment good to see.
Here's a few more pics for the guys,hey Leon could I get a top up sir thank-you.
A couple goodies I took photo's off just outside of Buffalo , I'm assuming it's a small museum or Historical society I'm just not sure.
Hi Tom and all,
Hi Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please!
Rob. Many thanks for the re post of your Big Loop write up, it was very interesting, and for more of your Grampa`s pics and all your other great pics here and over on the other thread.
Eric. Sounds as if you are getting back to your normal self now, enjoyed all your comments and pics, that 4-8-0 loco was very interesting, not a very common wheel arrangement, good to see Tom was able to come up with the info on it.
Pete. Many thanks for those pics of the Shildon parade in 1975, they were all "keepers", had to open a new Trains folder for them! Looking forward to your next selection. Nice pics of the #2253 US army loco too. That was a nice pic of you and Juneau at Tom`s place.
Mike. Got to drive the original WWII Willy`s Jeep in Hong Kong in the mid 50`s, we did`nt have any Land Rover`s then, Bedford 3 tonners`[Brit GM] were similar to your deuce and a half, Supply clerks` were called Quartermaster`s clerks` in the Brit army, you had to keep in sweet with them or you had trouble accquiring new kit! Like you I had a great time BITD of my army service overseas.
Nick. Everything is AOK down here in NZ, except that the whole country is still in self denial over the Rugby World Cup result, their was a great nashing of teeth when the AB`s were knocked out of the comp by Le Cockerals! See that congratulations are in order to you for Wales`s win at Twickers this AM, looks as if Gatland is going to be a better coach than Graham Henry was, I will not mention that they are both Kiwi`s of course! Enjoyed all of your posts`.
CM3. Thanks for the very informative synopsis on the latest Classic Trains issue, I can only manage to get a copy now and again at a bookstore in Hastings 30 miles north of here, enjoyed all the info in your posts`.
Ron. Nice to see you on board again, like you I enjoyed Mike`s post on `Nam and those links he posted, it was great to be young BITD, ah memories eh?
Dan. Thanks for that link to the Beavertail coaches`, had a good look around those insides on the site, I must confess that the original curved Beavertail looked a whole lot better than the BR re-builds which to me look like the old GWR railcars? At least they have been saved and restored.
Lars. Nice to see you on board again, sounds as if you are having a very relaxing time down on the Key`s, enjoyed all the classic writing in the 2005 re-post`s.
Tom. Enjoyed all of your info and pics, nice re-post of Rob`s trolley pics, the 6 pack #9 of RR posters`, the real nice selection of coach and car pics from the Rendezvous II visit to Kirkwood museum, must be great to have such a great train collection handy close by? Thanks for that nice link to the trolley museum as well. You sound a lot happier now you`ve had some of that SNOW at your place, hope it does`nt thaw too quickly. Real nice pic of Pete and Juneau in your train room.
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
I see Wolfman has made it back to the bar . . . hope the headaches are gone. Also the Larsman is baaaaaaack! And our trolleyMAN up in Ontario is up 'n about the decks! A fine Saturday indeed, Gents - have one on me! Ring it, Boris!!
Emporium Theatre selections to be Posted on Sunday . . .
Here's a spate of fotos seen before from Rendezvous II (May 2007) all taken at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation <Kirkwood, MO> . . . .
Missouri Pacific #6210. Coach (steel) - built in 1924 by American Car & Foundry.
Illinois Central #30. Dynamometer Test Car - built in 1943 by Illinois Central.
Gulf, Mobile & Ohio #5998. Parlor-observation - built in 1935 by American Car & Foundry.
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy #192 "Silver Spoon. " Dining car - built in 1938 by Budd.
Chesapeake & Ohio #970 "City Tavern." Dining Car - built in 1925 by Pullman.
Northern Pacific sleeper/lounge car <no further info>
Pullman "St. Carvan." Sleeper <heavyweight> - built in 1923 by Pullman.
<There's Stealthy Pete!!>
Enjoy!
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