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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:43 PM
Wjatho captain Tom and the stout crew [8D][:P] Tis a fine fine day today after a fairly cold and awfull holiday weekend. We had indeed ventured North for two days or a day and a bit as it were after my picture post on Sunday. Turned out to be the wettest, and coldest[tdn][:(] Victoria Day weekend in recent memory.[:(][sigh]Mind you the comopany made up for it.

I quite enjoyed the pictures posted on Sunday, quite wonderfull. Tom the rendezvous shots are not as bad as you said they were, gots ta give yourself more credit sir[tup] The Go shots turned out quite well, and the shots of the signboard for the go trains was fine once blown up[tup]

I;m enjiying the B&O fest that you and Al have put on today (even) Monday's early streamliner Al [;)][:D]

Mike Wonderfull to see the photo shots from you as well [tup] Thanks for the contribution a few like that in the comming weeks of doldrums around here will make our day fer sure fer sure [tup] It can be a tad hairy getting off one of the streetcars on Toronto. There is a law that's on the books in the highwaay traffic act that prohibbits drivers from passing a stopped streetcar on the rigth hand side ( doorside ) carries a heavy fine and points on ones licence as well. having said that we did witness an almost on the friday, a young kid getting off our car was almost hit by a moron yaking on their cell phone [tdn] while driving. The cars are in great shape concidering that they are in some cases over 30 years old. The TTC is known fior their dedication to the safety and maintenance if their system both surface and sud surface.

Doug You will be sorly missed during your offline times [:(] Loved todays post, but certaimly encore it again so everyone can benefit from it. Loved the CTC shots from Sunday as well[tup]

Pete I know that you are now likley over'om ,remember to have a wonderfull time. I hope you get to ride some rail while you are there ( photo's to prove it as well )Loved the latest shots from Alan as well , neat little diesel mechanical, it looked lost shuffling that coach around.

Ted So I'm the glue eh [?] What a sticky situation that is LOL [:O][swg] I'm sure that as long as we remember to keep the "turf"green side up that we sahll be fine. Any running commentary to the encores posted by myself and other's over the next few weeks will be greatly appreciated [tup]


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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:36 AM
THEME for the DAY! - THEME for the DAY!
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More on the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad (B&O) of the Fallen Flags from The Official Guide of the Railways - Aug 1956



Thrilled travelers tell us “There’s nothing like the view from B&O’s STRATA-DOME” ….. Route your passengers via B&O and they’ll sing your praises too

Passengers traveling in a B&O Strata-Dome marvel at the thrilling panorama and natural beauty of the ever-changing scenery.

FLOODLIGHTS AT NIGHT

Powerful floodlight beams provide a novel view of the landscape after dark.

This exclusive B&O service between Washington and Chicago is offered at no charge!

Strata-Dome Dieseliners between

CHICAGO – AKRON – PITTSBURGH – WASHINGTON

The Capitol Limited (All Pullman) – The Columbia (Deluxe-Coach) – The Shenandoah* (Pullman and Coach)

THROUGH SERVICE TO AND FROM BALTIMORE, WILMINGTON, PHILADELPHIA AND NEW YORK.

*On the Shenandoah, Strata-Dome is operated on alternate dates. Available only to Pullman passengers on the Shenandoah.

BALTIMORE & OHIO RAILROAD

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:33 AM
THEME for the DAY! - THEME for the DAY!
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Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Baltimore & Ohio (B&O)




Headquarters: Baltimore, MD

Mileage in 1950: 10,000

Locomotives in 1963: Diesel: 491

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars – 59,152 Passenger cars – 654

Principal routes in 1950:

Jersey City, NJ (New York)-Baltimore, MD-Pittsburgh, PA-Chicago
Washington, DC-Point of Rocks, MD
Cumberland, MD-Cincinnati, OH-St. Louis, MO
Detroit, MI-Toledo, OH-Cincinnati
Hamilton, OH-Beardstown, IL
Pittsburgh-Buffalo & Rochester, NY
Akron-Cleveland, OH
Midland City, OH-Columbus, OH-Pittsburgh

Passenger trains of note:

Ambassador (Baltimore-Detroit)
Capitol Limited (Jersey City-Washington-Chicago)
Cincinnatian (Detroit-Cincinnati; later, Baltimore-Washington-Cincinnati)
Columbian (Washington-Chicago)
Diplomat (Jersey City-Washington-St. Louis)
Metropolitan Special (Washington-St. Louis)
National Limited (Jersey City-Washington-St. Louis)
Royal Blue (Jersey City-Washington)
Shenandoah (Jersey City-Washington-Chicago)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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Posted by passengerfan on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:30 AM
Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for my usual coffee and a crumpet from the Mentor Village Bakery.

The B&O was quite a remarkable railroad when it came to streamlining. Not having the fortunes of rivals NYC and PRR they decided to streamline heavyweights in order to claim streamlined trains. They were the first to have the diesel powered streamliners that rivals NYC and PRR would not operate until after WW II. Probably the finest homebuilt streamliners of all were the postwar Cincinnatians that reverted to streamlined steam for power. The only new matching consists built for the B&O were for the postwar Columbians. The postwar Capitol Limited pride of the B&O was always made up of cars from two builders at least, and not all cars were new several were purchased from other railroads used. With that I will add the following:

BALTIMORE
&
OHIO
Streamlined Sleeping Cars
by Al

The B&O would purchase 95 streamlined sleeping cars and lease three more for a period of time. Forty-three of the 95 sleeping cars owned by the B&O were heavyweights streamlined by Pullman Calumet for operation in the pre-WW II CAPITOL LIMITED and NATIONAL LIMITED trains. Of the remaining 52 lightweight stream-lined cars the B&O purchased 14 used from other roads. The CAPITOL LIMITED was inaugurated as an All-Pullman train between Baltimore - Washington and Chicago on May 12, 1923. Even though it was shown in the timetable as a Jersey City to Chicago train only one or two cars were forwarded beyond Washington in a connecting train to and from Jersey City. The CAPITOL LIMITED became one of the first fully air conditioned trains in 1932.
On November 23, 1938 the CAPITOL LIMITED began operating as a diesel powered All-Pullman streamliner between Washington and Chicago with through sleeping cars to and from Jersey City. The heavyweight cars except for the two dining cars were remodeled and streamlined by Pullman Calumet with full width diaphragms full skirting, rounded turtle roofs, and tight lock couplers. It is believed this was one of the first installations of tight lock couplers on heavyweight cars. The new lightweight cars were almost all equipped with tight lock couplers. B&O streamlined the two Dining cars in there own Mount Clare shops. The interiors of all cars after remodeling and streamlining featured indirect lighting and brighter colors than Pullman normally used but still conservative enough for the B&O. The original heavyweight cars streamlined for the CAPITOL LIMITED follow.

Baggage 12 Crew Dormitory Buffet 16 Seat Lounge Cars

CAPITOL GARDEN

CAPITOL HILL

14 Section Sleeping Cars

ALEXANDER BELL

JOHN ERICSSON

PARK SPUR

12 Section 1 Drawing Room Sleeping Cars

BRADSHAW

CASTLETON

GREEN BANK

GREEN SPRING

WESTFIELD

8 Section 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping Cars

CLOVER BAY

CLOVER CREST

CLOVER HEIGHTS

CLOVER HOLLOW

CLOVER LODGE

CLOVER PARK

GARDEN BROOK

GARDEN GLEN

8 Section 1 Drawing Room 2 Compartment Sleeping cars

LAUREL BRANCH

LAUREL DALE

36 Seat Dining Cars

1061 MARGARET BRENT

1062 VIRGINIA DARE

3 Compartment 1 Drawing Room Buffet 22 Seat Lounge 8 Seat Sun Room Solarium Observation

CAPITOL ARMS

CAPITOL CITY

In October 1939 Pullman delivered two streamlined heavy-weight Sleeping cars for service in the CAPITOL LIMITED consists. These two cars were 8 Section 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping Cars EMERALD BORDER and EMERALD WATERS.
Coaches were added to the CAPITOL LIMITED between August 4, 1940 and December 19, 1941 when the All Coach COLUMBIAN was inaugurated. At that time the CAPITOL LIMITED regained its All Pullman status.
Having seen the results of the streamlined CAPITOL LIMITED increase passenger loads the B&O next turned their attention to the NATIONAL LIMITED the Washington - St. Louis train with cars to and from Jersey City. Once again like the CAPITOL LIMITED the timetable showed the NATIONAL LIMITED as a Jersey City - St. Louis train. Unlike the CAPITOL LIMITED the NATIONAL LIMITED carried both Coaches and Sleeping cars. The NATIONAL LIMITED also required four sets of equipment while the CAPITOL LIMITED only needed two. Again the B&O chose new EMC E units to power the streamlined train.
The B&O Mount Clare shops streamlined 19 heavyweight cars while Pullman Calumet streamlined 23 heavyweight cars. Only three Sun Room Solarium Observations were necessary as they did not run north of Washington to Jersey City. Again most of the NATIONAL LIMITED consists would be assembled in Baltimore/Washington. Only sixteen of the Mount Clare shops heavyweight stream-lined cars were destined for service in the NATIONAL LIMITED the other three were for additional cars for the COLUMBIANS. The NATIONAL LIMITED streamlined heavyweights are listed below.

Baggage 12 Crew Dormitory Buffet 16 Seat Lounge Cars

1302-1305

54 Revenue Seat Coaches

3550-3557

42 Seat Dining Lounge Cars

1077 - 1080

14 Section Sleeping Cars

PARK CITY

PARK FALLS

12 Section 1 Drawing Room Sleeping Cars

EAST AKRON

EAST MADISONVILLE

EAST NORWOOD

EAST SPARTA

EAST YOUNGSTOWN

UNIONVILLE

8 Section Buffet 20 Seat Lounge Cars

MERCHANTS CLUB

QUEEN CITY CLUB

8 Section Buffet 19 Seat Lounge Cars

MARYLAND CLUB

PITTSBURGH CLUB

10 Section 1 Drawing Room 2 Compartment Sleeping Cars

LOCH AWE

LOCH DOON

LOCH EARN

LOCH LOMOND

8 Section 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping Cars

EMERALD BAY

EMERALD BROOK

EMERALD FALLS

EMERALD WAVES

3 Compartment 1 Drawing Room Buffet 22 Seat Lounge 8 seat Sun Room Solarium Observations

CAPITOL ESCORT

PALM ISLANDS

PALM KEY

On January 15, 1941 The CAPITOL LIMITED received its first lightweight streamlined Sleeping cars. These were the two Pullman Pool cars CASCADE LOCKS and CASCADE BLUFFS with 10 Roomettes and 5 Double Bedrooms. The CAPITOL LIMITED operated these cars as Washington - Chicago sleepers.
On May 27, 1941 two additional CASCADE series cars began operating in the DIPLOMAT between Washington and Detroit again one of these cars per consist in the otherwise all heavyweight train. The DIPLOMAT was the premier train of the B&O between Washington and Detroit and had operated as All Pullman at one time. The two CASCADE Series cars assigned to the DIPLOMAT were CASCADE BOULDERS and CASCADE GULLY.
For whatever reason Pullman Standard opened their production line in September- October 1943 at the height of WW II long enough to deliver three new CASCADE series 10 roomette 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars to the B&O for assignment between Washington and St. Louis in the NATIONAL LIMITED. The three CASCADE series sleeping cars were CASCADE DRIVE, CASCADE MUSIC and CASCADE SOUND. All seven of the CASCADE series sleeping cars would become B&O property in 1945 and would receive 7000 series numbers along with their names.

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard April 1940 Plan: 4072B Lot: 6606 (Built for Pullman Pool transferred to B&O in 1941)
CAPITOL LIMITED
CASCADE BLUFF

CASCADE LOCKS

DIPLOMAT
CASCADE BOULDERS

CASCADE GULLY

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September October 1943 Plan: 4072F Lot: 6679 (Built for Pullman pool assigned to NATIONAL LIMITED)

CASCADE DRIVE

CASCADE MUSIC

CASCADE SOUND

In 1945 when the seven CASCADE series cars received 7000 series numbers along with their names they appeared as follows.

7000 CASCADE
BLUFF

7001 CASCADE
BOULDERS

7002 CASCADE
GULLY

7003 CASCADE
LOCKS

7004 CASCADE
DRIVE

7005 CASCADE
MUSIC

7006 CASCADE
SOUND

Beginning in April 1946 a through Los Angeles - Washington 6 Section 6 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom VALLEY series sleeping car of the Santa Fe traveled daily east of Chicago in the CAPITOL LIMITED o and from Washington. This car traveled west of Chicago in the Santa Fe CHIEF to and from Los Angeles. This was one of the earliest through sleeping car services instituted.
Between April and June 1948 the B&O received their first lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars built new for the railroad. These were eight Pullman Standard built 14 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom cars. Four were assigned to each consist of the CAPITOL LIMITED train sets. Initially three were assigned to the NATIONAL LIMITED but were replaced by through MP cars from Houston and Fort Worth later that year and the B&O 14 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars reverted to the CAPITOL LIMITED. Apparently the MP did not like B&O colors breaking up the MP color scheme of the new TEXAS EAGLES.

14 ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard April - June 1948 Plan: 4153B Lot: 6776 (Built for and assigned to CAPITOL LIMITED)

7010 PAW PAW

7011 MAHONING

7012 MONOCACY

7013 MUSKINGUM

7014 PATUXENT

7015 CACAPON

7016 SANGAMON

7017 SCIOTO

As the streamlined cars were added to the CAPITOL LIMITED and NATIONAL LIMITED in the latter train's case they were MP, Frisco and M-K-T cars with few actual B&O sleeping cars in the NATIONAL LIMITED at this time.
The older heavyweight streamlined cars from the NATIONAL LIMITED and CAPITOL LIMITED were passed down to the AMBASSADOR, DIPLOMAT, and SHENANDOAH upgrading those trains with more modern appearing sleeping cars.
In March 1950 the B&O received ten 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars from Pullman Standard and eight of these were assigned to the CAPITOL LIMITED pool so each train set had four. The 14-4 cars were then transferred to the AMBASSADOR, SHENANDOAH and DIPLOMAT adding newer streamlined sleeping cars to those trains. The SHENANDOAH received the remaining two new 10-6 cars from the Pullman Standard order. These cars were part of the huge C&O order for cars that the C&O and NKP Advisory Mechanical Committee (AMC) had developed. The Double Bedrooms were all located in the center of the sleeping cars with five roomettes located at each end over the trucks. Besides the ten cars built new for the B&O the IC received five and the D&RGW received four. The thirteen NKP cars differed slightly and were not part of the C&O order although the NKP took part in the design of the C&O cars providing mechanical engineers to the AMC. The C&O received fifty-six 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars from the original order and even this number was more than they needed or could put to use. In October 1950 the C&O sold four to the ACL and five to the IC with two more sold to the IC in November, 1950 and a final car sent to the IC in January 1951 after the Christmas rush ended.

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard March 1950 Plan: 4167 Lot: 6814 (Built for and assigned to CAPITOL LIMITED)

7040 AUGLAISE

7041 CATOCTIN

7042 GUYANDOTTE

7043 KOKOSING

7044 MUSCATATUCK

7045 OPEQUON

7046 SHENANGO

7047 TUSCARAWAS

7048 TYGART

7049 YOUGHIOGHENY

In December 1950 the B&O received three Dome Sleeping cars with 5 Roomettes 3 Drawing Rooms 1 Single Bedroom and 24 seats in the Dome. These three cars were originally built for the C&O for their stillborn CHESSIE. These Budd built cars were originally delivered to the C&O in August 1948 as daytime private room cars numbered 1850 - 1852. The C&O considered assigning these cars to the SPORTSMAN for operation between Washington and Detroit and was prepared to name them 1850 BELLE ISLE DOME, 1851 CHAMBERLIN DOME and 1852 HAMPTON ROADS DOME. The names were never applied and the cars were sold to the B&O in December 1950. Two of the cars 7601 STARLIGHT DOME and 7602 SUNLIGHT DOME were assigned to the CAPITOL LIMITED and the third car 7600 MOONLIGHT DOME was assigned to the SHENANDOAH operating every other day in one train set. These three cars were fitted with roof mounted headlights to light up the passing scenery on the nocturnal journeys of the SHENANDOAH and CAPITOL LIMITEDS. There were clearance problems on the route of the NATIONAL LIMITED and that is why the three domes were assigned to the Chicago - Washington route. The three domes certainly set the CAPITOL LIMITED apart from the competition on the Washington Chicago route such as the PRR LIBERTY LIMITED. The CAPITOL LIMITED began Dome service January 8, 1951.

24 SEAT STRATA-DOME 5 ROOMETTE 3 DRAWING ROOM 1 SINGLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Budd Company August 1948 Plan: 9524 Lot: 9669 - 017 (Built for C&O CHESSIE never operated in that train purchased by B&O December 1950)

7600 MOONLIGHT DOME ex C&O BELLE ISLE DOME originally C&O 1850

7601 STARLIGHT DOME ex C&O CHAMBERLIN DOME originally C&O 1851

7602 SUNLIGHT DOME ex C&O HAMPTON ROADS DOME originally C&O 1852

In February 1951 the B&O received two used 5 Double Bedroom Buffet 25 seat Lounge Observations from the C&O. These cars were delivered to the C&O in 1950 so were virtually new when sold to the B&O. These cars had squared off Observation ends and were probably among the most attractive Observations of this type ever constructed. The first two cars were the 7502 DANA the former C&O 2501 SHENANDOAH CLUB and the 7503 METCALF former C&O 2505 OHIO RIVER CLUB. These cars were assigned to the two consists of the Baltimore/Washington - Detroit AMBASSADOR beginning February 15, 1951.
In March 1951 two additional 5 Double Bedroom Buffet 25 seat Lounge Observations identical to the first two arrived on the B&O from the C&O. After repainting and renumbering these two B&O 7500 NAPPANEE ex C&O 2502 TIDEWATER CLUB and 7501 WAWASEE ex C&O WOLVERINE CLUB were assigned to the CAPITOL LIMITED. The new cars replaced the old prewar streamlined heavyweight Solarium Observations in CAPITOL LIMITED service.

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard August 1950 Plan: 4165 Lot: 6863 (Built for and assigned C&O Sold to B&O in February - March 1951 for assignment to AMBASSADOR and CAPITOL LIMITED)

7500 NAPPANNEE originally C&O 2502 TIDEWATER CLUB

7501 WAWASEE originally C&O 2507 WOLVERINE CLUB

7502 DANA originally C&O 2501 SHENANDOAH CLUB

7503 METCALF originally C&O 2505 OHIO RIVER CLUB

The B&O next received an order for eleven 16 Duplex Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars from the Budd Company in May-June 1954. These cars all named for Birds were assigned to such trains as the CAPITOL LIMITED AMBASSADOR, SHENANDOAH, NATIONAL LMITED and other trains. These cars would later serve the B&O as SLUMBERCOACHES and finally eight of these cars would be sold to the SCL for SLUMBERCOACH service between New York and Miami.

16 DUPLEX ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Budd Company May - June 1954 Plan: 9536 Lot: 9658 - 137 (Built for and assigned to General Service)

7100 BOBOLINK

7101 CARDINAL

7102 GULL

7103 KINGFISHER

7104 MOCKINGBIRD

7105 ORIOLE

7106 QUAIL

7107 ROBIN

7108 SWAN

7109 THRUSH
7110 WREN

Seeking to upgrade the NATIONAL LIMITED the B&O purchased three NYC prewar 1 Compartment 1 Drawing Room 2 Double Bedroom Buffet 25 seat Lounge Observations that were assigned to the pre WW II SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED. The three cars arrived on the B&O in January 1956 and after repainting and refurbishing the three cars entered B&O service with the same names they had carried while in NYC service.

7510 GENESEE RIVER originally NYC 10650 GENESEE RIVER

7511 MAUMEE RIVER originally NYC 10651 MAUMEE RIVER

7512 WABASH RIVER originally NYC 10652 WABASH RIVER

Beginning April 5, 1957 the B&O assigned lightweight streamlined Twin Unit Dining cars to the CAPITOL LIMITED. These replaced the prewar heavyweight streamlined Dining cars of 1938 in CAPITOL LIMITED. The car were purchased used from the NYC where they had operated in the DETROITER and even the WOLVERINE. The two Twin Unit Dining cars were originally built for the C&O as part of the 1950 order. Four of the Dormitory Kitchen cars and four of the Dining Room cars were sold to the NYC. It was two each of these that were sold to the B&O for the CAPITOL LIMITED as follows.
1092 DINING ROOM CAR and 1093 CREW DORMITORY KITCHEN CAR ex NYC 409 - 472 originally C&O 1975 MICHIE"S TAVERN C&O 1956 CALDWELLS KITCHEN

1094 DINING ROOM CAR and 1095 CREW DORMITORY KITCHEN CAR ex NYC 410 - 473 originally C&O 1976 HANOVER TAVERN C&O 1957 BOTSFORD KITCHEN

The B&O purchased four 10 Roomette 6 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars used from the C&O in 1957 and after repainting the cars entered service assigned to the NATIONAL LIMITED. B&O 7052 SCHUYLKILL and 7053 SHENANDOAH entered service in February 1957. In March B&O 7051 CUYAHOGA entered B&O service followed by 7050 ALLEGHENY in April 1957.

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard February - July 1950 Plan: 4167 Lot: 6864 (Built for and assigned to C&O trains sold to B&O 1957 assigned to NATIONAL LIMITED)

7050 ALLEGHENY originally C&O 2603 CITY OF MOUNT HOPE

7051 CUYAHOGA originally C&O 2635 TOWN OF PRINCE

7052 SCHUYLKILL originally C&O 2643 CITY OF MUSKEGON

7053 SHENANDOAH ex C&O 2655 CITY OF PETOSKEY originally C&O 2655 CITY OF ATHENS

In February 1958 the B&O received a pair of the new 24 Single Room 8 Double Room Slumber coaches from Budd numbered and named 7700 SLUMBERLAND and 7701 DREAMLAND. The pair were assigned to the COLUMBIAN the all coach overnight streamliners between Baltimore and Chicago. These trains had been combined with the AMBASSADOR east of Willard Ohio so the Coach Observations were assigned elsewhere. Eventually the B&O would combine the CAPITOL LIMITED and COLUMBIAN between Baltimore and Chicago and the AMBASSADOR between Baltimore and Willard Ohio in both directions. Finally the COLUMBIAN name would be dropped and the combined CAPITOL LIMITED - COLUMBIAN would be known as the CAPITOL LIMITED.

24 SINGLE ROOM 8 DOUBLE ROOM SLUMBERCOACHES Budd Company February 1958 Plan: 9540 Lot: 9691-211 (Built for and assigned to COLUMBIAN)

7700 SLUMBERLAND
7701 DREAMLAND

In May 1959 the B&O received three leased Slumbercoaches from the Budd Company for assignment to the NATIONAL LIMITED between Baltimore and St. Louis. The three leased Slumbercoaches were numbered and named 7702 RESTLAND, 7703 SLEEPLAND and 7704 THRIFTLAND.
In September, 1959 the Missouri Pacific received a 24 Single Room 8 Double Room Slumbercoach leased from Budd numbered and named 699 SOUTHLAND. At that time the B&O and MP Slumbercoaches began a Washington - San Antonio daily service operating in the NATIONAL LIMITED east of St. Louis and the TEXAS EAGLE west of St. Louis.
When the lease was up the MP and B&O both returned these Slumbercoaches to Budd who promptly sold them to the NP for NORTH COAST LIMITED - MAINSTREETER service.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:04 AM
Good morning Tom and friends! I'll take three lite breakfasts to make up for missing one (ot two) yesterday morning. Thoroughly enjoyed the Sunday Rendevous pix, and pix from Mike last Sunday. Good B&O stuff from Al, and encore material from Tom as well.

Hope no one minds seeing some new stuff today. I can always encore it later for the folks who are missing. There is a small reference to the B&O even, and it goes along with the pix I submitted last Sunday too.

CTC is Coming by Greg Heier

The Illinois Railway Museum demonstration railroad is a fully functional, short, rail operation complete with automatic block signals and passing tracks to allow multiple train operation on its single-track line. Soon, a portion of the railroad will be converted to CTC (Centralized Traffic Control) operation.

Centralized Traffic Control is a system in which a dispatcher, often at a distant position, directs the motions of railway trains by means of remotely controlled signals and track switches. Signaling has been called, probably by railway signalmen, the most important aspect of railway transportation. It allows efficient and rapid movement of trains across great distances with great safety. CTC enhances the efficiency and safety of signal systems.

As long as there was only one train on a railroad, you really didn’t need signaling, or a dispatcher. But, when you add a second train, you need some system to keep the two trains from occupying the same track at the same time. In 1829, laws enacted in Maryland required all trains of the Baltimore & Ohio to be preceded by a mounted flagman both to warn bystanders as well as to protect the train from other trains. This did little to promote rapid transit, and most similar laws were repealed within a few years.

The first trains relied on strict adherence to time schedules, or timetables, to keep trains apart, and early references were made to smoke orders, where dispatchers in towers used spyglasses to watch for the smoke of approaching trains as an aid to dispatching.

Of course, there was no way to know if a train actually had left a distant terminal, or if the train had broken down along the way. When a train was late, an opposing train would wait for a certain proscribed time and then head out. The train crew had some degree of confidence that the crew of the late train would realize that they had lost timetable authority and had to take a siding for a meet. This gave another, and more ominous, example of smoke orders – the engineers watched for smoke of oncoming trains so they could make an emergency stop before colliding with the other train. This imprecise method of running opposing trains on a single track railroad resulted in a number of head-on collisions, usually with loss of life or limb.

By 1832, trackside fixed signals were used to communicate between terminals on the New Castle & French Town Railroad: these were large balls that were raised on poles with halyards. On some busy lines, mostly in Europe, signal-flag or helioscope (blinker) signalmen, similar to military signalmen, relayed dispatching orders along a network of signal towers. With line-of-sight signaling, binoculars were often a signalman’s most important tool. Of course, weather conditions often shut down a rail line by obscuring visibility, and operation remained catch-as-catch-can.

These early signals brought about the concept of blocks, where a signalman would not allow a train to enter a block before the signalman at the block had signaled that no train was coming the opposite direction and that a preceding train had passed his station. The blocks were necessarily short to provide visual communication.

Eventually, the fixed, or lineside, signals were refined to the bladed semaphore type, so named after the military semaphore signalman’s paddles. In railway use, a semaphore in the vertical position indicates clear; horizontal position, restricting or stop; and a 45 degree angle is slow or caution.

Clearly something else was needed, and the next big jump in railroad operation come with the introduction of the telegraph shortly in 1851. The telegraph brought about the day of the train-order station and the operator or telegrapher. This allowed all-weather communication between stations – except when the lines were felled by sleet, snow, rain, wind, tornados, or even by acts of vandalism and war. It also allowed train orders to be sent to intermediate stations so operational flexibility could be enhanced.

In train order system, a dispatcher at some remote location sent a train order by telegraph to a local operator. The operator would write out the train order with at least three copies, one for the engineer, one for the conductor, and a file copy to be kept at his station. Extra copies could also be provided for a rear end brakeman or flagman, or for the engineer of a second locomotive when trains were doubleheader. The order were written on preprinted tissue paper forms using carbon paper to make the multiple copies.

After the operator transcribed the train order, he repeated it to the dispatcher, who checked it for accuracy, then transmitted an okay, and entered it in his train order log as complete. The train orders were addressed to the C&E (conductor and engineer) of a specific train or on al trains heading into a certain operator block. These might include orders for meets, passings, slow orders, and other information train crews need to know. When an order had been delivered, and the train was operating under that order, the operator entered the time on his train sheet and sent the telegraph signal [is]OS for “on sheet.” The dispatcher would also enter the time into his train register.

Trains operating under timetable authority and running on time would not need additional train order authority. Intermediate operators would give these trains orders only when it was necessary to amend the timetable schedule, or warn of track conditions requiring a slow order. To signal these trains that the operator had an order for them, the station was equipped with a train-order signal. A clear signal meant that there were no orders, while a restricting signal meant that trains had to pick up orders. To make sure the C&E had all appropriate orders, a clearance form was used that listed all applicable orders by number and time.

There were two basic type of train orders used – a 19-order, that could be picked up on-the-fly from a train order hoop; and a 31-order, that required the train to stop so the C&E could sign a register copy.

The use of telegraph-order stations and blocks allowed the concept of permissive blocks instituted. This is when following trains were allowed to enter the block shortly after another train. Enginemen were cautioned to watch for stopped trains and flagmen were required to hike a certain distance behind a stopped train to protect it from collision. Whistle signals were established to direct the actions of the flagmen. Even so, rear-end collisions were frequent, the most famous being the 1900 cra***hat took the life of Casey Jones.

Often the train order station was also an interlocking tower with lever controls for nearby signals and switches. It was called an interlocking plant because the interlock machine was designed so that conflicting moves were locked out, and signals could only be set to a permissive aspect if the switches for that route were lined and locked. Interlockings were established where one railroad crossed another, where routes diverged, or at busy terminals. The leverman/operator would also be responsible for lining the switches and signals through his plant. At large plants, the job of telegraph operator and leverman were separate jobs, and very large plants sometimes had assistant levermen.

Invented in England in 1856 by John Saxby, the mechanical interlocking machine had an intricate system of sliding and notched bars and locking pins arranged so that a clear signal would automatically lock track switches and signals on conflicting routes. The machine usually occupied the lower story of an interlocking tower, while it was being operated by a series of levers on the upper floor, which also served as an observation platform for the operator. These mechanical monsters were often called Armstrong interlockers[/i] because of the strength needed to throw the levers, and the larger the interlocking plant, the more rods had to be moved to clear trains and the more muscles required to work the mechanical levers.

The first interlocking tower in the US was built in Trenton, New Jersey, in 1870. Soon the Pennsylvania Railroad, at that time the largest railroad company in the world, also built a series of interlocking/operator towers along its busiest routes to control the numerous train movements. Back then these towers controlled train movements via manual blocks with a minimum of train orders. A tower would clear a train into a block only after the next tower had telegraphed that the previous train had cleared the block. These blocks were shot so that the high density train movements were possible. The frequent spacing of interlocking towers also allowed faster trains to pass slower trains by operating on multiple main tracks. Directions were given to the trains through semaphore signals (later by position light signals). The system’s major flaw was that it was highly labor-intensive and expensive to maintain.

[:I] A Blond walks up to a pop machine, she puts her money in, pushes a button, gets a pop. She puts more money in, pushes a button gets a pop. She puts more money in, pushes a button, gets a pop. The guy standing behind her waiting says "Hey lady, are you done yet??" The blond turns around and said "SHHHH!! I'm winning." [:I]

I'll try to get the rest of the article posted tonight or tomorrow morning. I'm going to lose this computer for awhile. Have a great day!
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:28 AM
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first Posted on page 233


Now arriving on track #1 …..
Railroads from Yesteryear! Number One


Baltimore and Ohio Railroad (B&O)


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Locale: New York City, New York via Baltimore, Maryland to Chicago, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri

Reporting marks: B&O

Dates of operation: 1830 – 1963

Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)


The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad (B&O) is one of the oldest railroads in the United States, with an original line from the port of Baltimore, Maryland west to the Ohio River at Wheeling, West Virginia and Parkersburg, West Virginia. It is now part of the CSX network, and includes the oldest operational railroad bridge in the world. The B&O also coincidentally included the Leiper Railroad, the first permanent railroad in the U.S.

The railroad's former shops in Baltimore, including the Mt. Clare roundhouse, now house the B&O Railroad Museum.

History

Chapter 123 of the 1826 Session Laws of Maryland, passed February 28, 1827, and the state of Virginia on March 8, 1827, chartered the Baltimore and Ohio Rail Road Company, with the task of building a railroad from the port of Baltimore, Maryland west to a suitable point on the Ohio River. The railroad, formally incorporated April 24, was intended to provide an alternative, faster, route for Midwestern goods to reach the East Coast than the seven-year-old, hugely successful, but slow Erie Canal across upstate New York.

Construction began on July 4, 1828, and the first section, from Baltimore west to Ellicott's Mills (now known as Ellicott City), opened on May 24, 1830. Further extensions opened to Frederick (including the short Frederick Branch) December 1, 1831, Point of Rocks April 2, 1832, Sandy Hook December 1, 1834 (the connection to the Winchester and Potomac Railroad at Harpers Ferry opening in 1837), Martinsburg May 1842, Hancock June 1842, Cumberland November 5, 1842, Piedmont July 21, 1851, Fairmont June 22, 1852 and its terminus at Wheeling, West Virginia (then part of Virginia) on January 1, 1853.

On July 20, 1877 there were bloody riots in Baltimore, Maryland from Baltimore and Ohio Railroad workers. Nine rail workers were killed at the hands of the Maryland militia. The next day workers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania staged a sympathy strike that was also met with an assault by the state militia; Pittsburgh then erupted into widespread rioting.

The Pennsylvania Railroad acquired the Philadelphia, Wilmington and Baltimore Railroad in the early 1880s, cutting off the B&O's access to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The B&O chartered the Philadelphia Branch in Maryland and the Baltimore and Philadelphia Railroad in Delaware and Pennsylvania and built a parallel route, finished in 1886. The Baltimore Belt Railroad, opened in 1895, connected the main line to the Philadelphia Branch without the need for a car ferry across the Patapsco River, but the cost of its Howard Street Tunnel drove the B&O to bankruptcy in 1896.

The Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad took control of the B&O in 1963, and incorporated it, along with the Western Maryland Railway, into the Chessie System in 1973. In 1980, the Chessie System merged with the Seaboard System Railroad to create CSX. In 1986, the B&O finally went out of existence when it formally merged with the C&O (which itself formally merged with CSX later that same year). At the height or railroading's golden age, the B&O was one of several trunk lines uniting the northeast quadrant of the United States into an industrial zone. It marked the southern border and corresponded to the New York Central's marking of the northern border. The Pennsy and the Erie railroads worked the center. The corners of this map are Baltimore in the southeast, Albany in the northeast, Chicago in the northwest, and St. Louis in the southwest.

Early engineering

When construction began on the B&O in the 1820s, railroad engineering was in its infancy. Unsure of exactly which materials would suffice, the B&O erred on the side of sturdiness and built many of its early structures of granite. Even the track bed to which iron strap rail was affixed consisted of the stone.

Though the granite soon proved too unforgiving and expensive for track, most of the B&O's bridges have survived until the present, and many are still in active railroad use by CSX. Baltimore's Carrollton Viaduct, named in honor of Charles Carroll of Carrollton, is North America's oldest railroad bridge still in use. The Thomas Viaduct in Relay, Maryland was the longest bridge in the United States upon its completion in 1835, and remains in use as well.

Branches

Washington

In 1831 a law was passed in Maryland, enabling the B&O to build its Washington Branch, connecting Baltimore to the national capital of Washington, D.C. This opened in 1835, and later served as a terminus for the Annapolis and Elk Ridge Railroad to Annapolis.

Mount Airy
Frederick

The Frederick Branch was built as part of the original line, opening on December 1, 1831. The continuation of the main line from Frederick Junction opened April 2, 1832.

Metropolitan

The Metropolitan Branch was opened in the early 1870s. It leaves the District of Columbia and proceeds northwest through Montgomery County, joining the B&O main line at Point of Rocks. It serves as a bypass around Baltimore and is still in active use.

Georgetown

The line was operated in some manner from 1889 until 1985 when it was proposed for abandonment; it served basically as a minor freight spur carrying coal and building materials to local outlets in Chevy Chase, Bethesda and Georgetown. It was originally built with the intention of connecting to southern railroads to compete with the Pennsylvania Railroad's Long Bridge, but no bridge across the Potomac River was ever built. The abandoned right-of-way is now used as the Capital Crescent Trail.

Trivia

• In the U.S. version of the board game Monopoly, the B&O is one of the four railroad properties on the board, though it did not serve Atlantic City, New Jersey, from which many of the US edition's properties are named.

• A one-time B&O warehouse at the Camden Yards rail junction in Baltimore now dominates the view over the right-field wall at the Baltimore Orioles' current home, Oriole Park at Camden Yards.

References

Railroad History Database
The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Timeline
Mileposts from CSX Transportation Timetables


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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:10 AM

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[:I] A woman brought a very limp duck into a veterinary clinic. As she lay her pet on the table, the vet pulled out his stethoscope and listened to the bird's chest. After a moment or two, the vet shook his head sadly and said, "I'm so sorry, Cuddles has passed away."
The distressed owner wailed, "Are you sure?
"Yes, I am sure. The duck is dead," he replied.
"How can you be so sure," she protested. "I mean, you haven't done any testing on him or anything. He might just be in a coma or something."
The vet rolled his eyes, turned around and left the room. He returned a few moments later with a black Labrador Retriever. As the duck's owner looked on in amazement, the dog stood on his hind legs, put his front paws on the examination table and sniffed the duck from top to bottom. He then looked at the vet with sad eyes and shook his head.
The vet patted the dog and took it out, and returned a few moments later with a beautiful cat. The cat jumped up on the table and also sniffed delicately at the bird. The cat sat back on its haunches, shook its head, meowed softly and strolled out of the room.
The vet looked at the woman and said, "I'm sorry, but as I said, this is most definitely, 100% certifiably, a dead duck."
Then the vet turned to his computer terminal, hit a few keys and produced a bill which he handed to the woman.
The duck's owner, still in shock, took the bill. "$150!", she cried, "$150 just to tell me my duck is dead?!"
The vet shrugged. "I'm sorry. If you'd taken my word for it, the bill would have been $20, but what with the Lab Report and the Cat Scan ...." [:I]


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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) wanswheel Mike Posted: 22 May 2006, 01:14:33 (338) Comments

(2) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 22 May 2006, 05:59:31 (338) Bearman’s Gulf Coast Report!

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 22 May 2006, 07:00:23 (338) Monday’s Info & 12-Post Summary

(4) passengerfan Al Posted: 22 May 2006, 07:31:14 (338) Comments & B&O streamlined coaches

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 22 May 2006, 08:14:17 (338) Acknowledgments & Comments

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 22 May 2006, 12:15:28 (338) ENCORE: 2005 Canadian Rail Journey, Pt I

(7) wanswheel Mike Posted: 22 May 2006, 16:38:01 (338) Comments ‘n URLs

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 22 May 2006, 18:17:37 (338) Comments

(9) passengerfan Al Posted: 22 May 2006, 20:16:25 (338) Comments

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 22 May 2006, 21:44:52 (338) Comments




That’s it! [tup][;)]


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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, May 22, 2006 9:44 PM
Good Evening!

Leon I'll take a Keiths while I sit over here on my personal stool and watch the Cardinals and Giants on the large screen TV.

Nice having Al stop by - and a talkative visit at that, eh [?] [tup] Been awhile since we've had some conversation from our friend . . .

Yes, Toronto is a clean city - almost town-like in parts. Glad you enjoyed the Pix! As I mentioned some pages back, must've been a bittersweet thing for you to view those shots. Hope it won't be too long before you're back to full health and able to travel.

A week from tomorrow we should be in Anchorage and are very excited about the trip. Alaska was a place that I appreciated only after I had left. Being there as a young man - single and relatively poor - and of course in the service, was hardly the fun that I may have made it sound like. Nevertheless, I did manage to have "my moments" and the memories get better with age! Isn't that the way [?]

Take heart, Al high speed rail is right around the proverbial corner, especially as the fuel prices escalate.The costs are astronomical, but the day isn't that far away when necessity will override the love affair with automobiles.

You are absolutely correct about those remaining to step up in order to keep the bar operating. Yours is a good example of how to do it!

Boris ring the bell and give Al a double CR and let him keep the bag! [swg]

Later! [zzz]

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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, May 22, 2006 8:16 PM
Good Evening Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a CR and a round for the house.

Just thought I would mention i really appreciated all of the Toronto photos. The old Maple Leaf Gardens where I watched many a Maple Leaf game and took my daughter to the Ice Capades.

It's nice to see the city is just as clean as ever. I don't know of any other city its size in North America that is cleaner.

Now Tom you must be getting ready and anxious for your Alaska trip. I love Alaska and if I were a young man that is where I would be.

With so many regulars away it will be up to the few, the proud ,whops sounds like a recruiting poster.

Yesterday was a a very wet day here in Northern California and three Tour buses returning from Reno to San Francisco were involed in a multi vehicle accident and some sixty people were injured. All three buses were owned by Lucky Tours. The only ones lucky were those riding the buses not seriously hurt who had lost all of their money in Reno who will now get it from the lawsuits against the operator of the buses.

To bad they don't run the passenger trains between the Bay and Reno anymore they were an enjoyable way to cross the Sierras. They still operate the California Zephyr but it is booked weeks in advance.

It looks like the proposed High Speed Rail service in California is beginning to die a slow death as funding is not likely this year and may not even make it on the November ballot.

Ridership on all other trains operating in California is up dramatically so it is clearly needed. Each year the High Speed Rail is delayed the costs will increase by $700 million to $1 Billion it is estimated. To bad the people are so in love with the automobile in this land of freeways.

Enough of my rattleing and rambling this evening.

TTFN Al
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, May 22, 2006 6:17 PM
G'day!

A ho-hum day here at the "Feast or Famine Bar 'n Grill!" But along came wanswheel Mike with a "pick us up" Post! [tup] Nice going . . . . that's what it is going to take - someone to step up to the plate during the periods of drought . . . .

Haven't seen Rob or Doug since 7ish yesterday morning. I know that today is Victoria Day in Canada - so that's a long weekend. And Doug had told me that he was going to have some extensive work done on his 'puter - which translates to "down time - big time."

Of course the Maple Leaf is flying alongside Old Glory at our Haus today! [swg]

Looks like there's more activity on "my other Thread" than here. Amazing!

REMINDER: Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)

Thanx for the round, Mike!

Later! [tup]

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, May 22, 2006 4:38 PM
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house.

Pick a great railroad, any great railroad, and Al is at the ready.
A link to a picture of the B&O Royal Blue streamliner was here just the other day and here it is again.
http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr4020_b&o_royalblue_1835_thomas_viaduct_jerseycity_nj1940.jpg

Rob, you guys up Toronto way sure have shiny transportation. The 4023 trolley looks brand new, yet totally classic at the same time. If it stops in the middle of the street, with a lane of automobile traffic
for passengers to have to watch out for, getting on or off the trolley is an adventure too, I bet.

Ted, the train documentaries on PBS get me watching. Saw a good one on The White Pass & Yukon. Nick is the one who is knowledgeable about the Ffestiniog Railway, with an extra "F" for effort, seems it's always uphill in West Wales.

Tom, there's thousands of railroad photographs on the Internet, and there will be thousands more. But there was only one William Henry Jackson (1843-1942), the photographer of the Union Pacific photos of yesterday, and a painter too. Took Greeley's advice and lived long.
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/sontag/images/jackson.jpg
http://gallery.unl.edu/images/hayden/17-0299a.jpg U.S. Geological Survey 1870
http://www.cartermuseum.org/photo/Resources/Jackson_ChipetaFalls_Lg_P1971-94-23.jpg
http://rs6.loc.gov/pnp/wtc/4a00000/4a02000/4a02900/4a02960r.jpg Arabian Steamer
http://www.yellowstone-online.com/art.html
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, May 22, 2006 12:15 PM
G'day Gents!

As forewarned - we are now officially in our doldrums with so many of our number away. Gonna be like this for awhile - and this time next week, I'm just about outta here too.

Been thinking that since there's really none of our guys reading this stuff - why waste original thoughts [?] So, here's an ENCORE! from last year . . . .

QUOTE: Posted by siberianmo
Posted: 16 May 2005, 13:07:37
Canadian Rail Journey, Part I (initially Posted on page 12)

The first leg of my Canadian rail journey began on May 5th aboard VIA Rail’s “Ocean” bound for Halifax, Nova Scotia. Departing Montreal’s Central Station at 6:30 PM, the 12 car consist of Budd stainless steel cars slowly made its way across the St. Lawrence Seaway by way of the Victoria Jubilee Bridge (a unique rail and highway structure with a turnout and separate span over part of the Seaway). Train #14 was powered by two F40PH’s, 6419 leading and 6418 trailing.

NOTE: Discussions regarding the existence catenaries at the Montreal Central Station have taken place over on "Canadian Passenger Railroads - Let's Talk!". There ARE catenaries to the left when approaching Place Bonaventure. Montreal's commuter trains - "AMT" - run their F40PH's to the right and the electrics to the left.

The train consist included a baggage car, three coaches, a Skyline dome car, a dining car, five Chateau series bedroom cars and a Park car (Revelstoke Park).

Over the years, prior to getting underway, my wife and I have made a habit of sitting in the dome of the Park car, simply to take in the sights and sounds of the lower level of Montreal’s Central Station. Montreal’s commuter trains, some electrified and others not, made frequent departures along with VIA Rail’s corridor trains (LRC and Renaissance). Before we realized it, the train effortlessly began to move forward. Soon, the daylight enveloped the train and our long awaited journey “home” began.

As has been our practice, we booked a double bedroom – “D” – in the Park car, which for those who may not know, is the double with the most floor space. Our attendant, Claude, is an old timer and very much into ensuring that his passenger’s needs are attended to promptly and courteously. I should add that he stocked an adequate supply of Mr. Alexander Keith’s fine Pale Ale from Halifax, thereby putting my mind at ease regarding that aspect of my rail pleasures.

With a fair sky and receding sun, our train picked up speed and before too long, Montreal’s skyline was but a series of bumps on the rear horizon. One more pale ale, then off to the dining car.

Generally we begin our evening meal at the Drummondville station stop – about an hour and one half from Montreal. This evening was no different. We noticed straight away that the menu had been trimmed quite a bit, with only two entrees offered and NO chowder listed. This was quite a surprise and we wondered aloud what had happened. The reply was along the lines that VIA Rail had decided to make several changes to Easterly Class and the dining car service, all designed to save them dollars. While that strategy makes no sense to me, apparently the “bean counters” think otherwise. I should note that the dining car was very crowded and we had about a 15 minute wait for a table.

I don’t think that a trip with VIA Rail has ever resulted in our not meeting someone new and this particular journey was no different. There’s just that little something – no – big something that fosters the atmosphere for conversations to begin. A couple of more train travelers have been added to the “list” of people with whom communications will be maintained. That’s just the way it is. Try that out on an airplane!

One of the treats to take advantage of aboard the “Ocean” is sitting in the Park Car’s dome. These domes accommodate 24 people and at times the seats are all full. I particularly like it when there’s no one else there, especially at night, as the sights of signal lights, illuminated structures and the loco’s headlight play games with the shadows of the night. If you have never experienced this, it may be a bit difficult to envision. Daylight affords the opportunity of viewing the full train from the rear along the roof lines. Night time gives yet another perspective. It’s all part of the ‘wonder’ of train travel and something that will be sorely missed once the Budd stainless steel cars give way to “Renaissance” and the “Euro” cars.

After breakfast in the dining car, we returned to the Park Car dome and remained there until our long stop at Moncton, NB. This is where the loco’s get refueled and other matters get attended to. Scheduled for a 20 minute stop, we were off and running in 10. The train was a bit behind in schedule.

The track along the route between Campbellton, NB and Moncton, NB was a bit on the rough side – square wheel effect. This is attributable to the New Brunswick East Coast railroad’s inability to maintain the track in the condition that CN had done over the years they owned it. A rough ride for those in the diner, for sure. CN routes their freights along a different right of way, thereby giving VIA Rail almost exclusive access to that length of track. We didn’t see one moving NBEC freight during the trip. Many of the cars and loco’s we did see still had CP or CP Rail markings showing beneath the freshly painted NBEC livery.

Perhaps the most scenic portion of the trip is between Amherst, NS and Truro, NS where the track is pretty much located on the ridge line of the mountains (hills to those of you from the west coast!). Just wonderful scenery and good track most of the way. The westbound “Ocean," Train #15 from Halifax, passed us on the left side as we approached Truro. Those “Renaissance” cars just don’t look “right” to me and it’s going to take some time to get used to seeing them. Anyway, my guess is that they were waiting for us in a passing siding, as we were running about 20 minutes behind schedule.

The run from Truro into Halifax takes about 90 minutes and on this particular Friday, it was true to form. Some very pretty countryside and lots of lakes to enjoy as the “Ocean” sped onward to our final stop. Approaching the town of Bedford (now part of the “new” greater Halifax) I snapped yet another photo of “Mom’s” house – situated between the tracks and the water of Bedford Basin. Each time we make this round trip, two more photo’s get added to the collection. One day, I’ll assemble them, put them into a collage arrangement, and ship ‘em off to “Mom.” It’s only been 15 years worth ……..

Hugging the shoreline of the Basin and Halifax Harbor (Harbour) the “Ocean” wound its way past container freights and assorted cars waiting for assembly into outbound trains. We arrived at the station about 20 minutes late – which as far as I’m concerned is on time. Off to the platform and picture taking, while my bride patiently waited, wondering, “Why does he do this every time?”

VIA Rail did it again – delivered us safe and happy to the beginning of what would turn out to be a wonderful week of trains, ships and a War Museum.

To be continued ……….


See y’all later! [tup]

Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, May 22, 2006 8:14 AM
Morning Gents!

Just a quickie to acknowledge the Pix Posting from Doug - Rob - Mike 'n Pete!! Very good spate of visuals and much appreciated. [tup] [tup] [tup]

A good morning to Ted 'n Al and a THANX for helping to begin the new week on the right foot! [swg]

We'll miss our friend, Wolfman for the next 4 or 5 weeks and things won't be quite the same. Also, without Lars - BK - CM3 'n Doug (both for most of this week) I'd say we're taking a hit at the bar. But as mentioned - we'll survive. [tup]

Appreciate the kind words regarding the Rendezvous Pix. I'm not really happy with my multi-zillion dollar digital camera (Sony) and haven't been. It's more me than the camera - actually I'm a 35mm kinda guy - too much to think about with digital. [swg] One day I'll "get the hang of it!" <grin>

Don't know when the next installment of Pix from me will take place. Much too time consuming and time seems to be running out of the hour glass rather quickly these days as our trip to Alaska approaches. We'll see . . . .

Did want to mention the Birthday Bash for West Coast S Dave this coming Saturday. He requested the Noon to 4 PM (Pacific) time slot ( 3 to 7 PM - Eastern). I'm very doubtful for that day - so I hope someone will step up to the plate for Dave.

Gotta run - things to do and people to see!

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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, May 22, 2006 7:31 AM
Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a Coffee and a Crumpet from the Mentor Bakery.

Enjoyed Sunday Photo day especially all of those that pertain to the trip I missed. Glad evryone had a great time and sorry I missed it.

Have been a little under the weather the last couple of days but got up feeling much better this AM.

Don't want you to think I would forget the B&O.

BALTIMORE
&
OHIO
Streamlined Coaches
by Al

The B&O was one of the earliest pioneers of streamlining with the experimental ADAMS WINDSPLITTER of 1900. This train was rebuilt from heavyweight cars of the era in the Baltimore and Ohio’s own St. Clare shops in Baltimore. The Baggage, four Coaches and enclosed Observation car were about thirty years ahead of their time. At the turn of the century the idea of streamlining and the high speeds it implied were commendable they were anything but practical given the state of steam power and most railroads roadbed at that time. Although this pioneer attempt at streamlining was quite successful no other railroads of the period showed any interest and after about a year the cars were quietly stripped of their streamlining and returned to commuter service between Baltimore and Washington.
It would take the Great Depression to reawaken interest in the streamliner concept on the B&O and other roads. The B&O would order two streamlined consists from American Car & Foundry in 1934 for 1935 delivery. One eight car consist was built for service on B&O subsidiary Alton operating a daily Chicago – St. Louis round trip and named the ABRAHAM LINCOLN. This train was completed in April 1935 and inaugurated streamlined ABRAHAM LINCOLN service July 1, 1935. This train was constructed of Cor-Ten steel and was referred to as the steel train by Railroad historians. The ABRAHAM LINCOLN cars were lightweights and the one thing that detracted from their streamlined appearance was the use of rivets in the construction of the cars. The Maroon and Red paint scheme with Yellow separation stripes and lettering was among the most attractive of the streamline era. This consist was train lined in the following order:

5751 Baggage 30’ Railway Post Office Car

5803 64 Revenue seat Coach

5804 64 Revenue seat Coach

5805 64 Revenue seat Coach

5701 9 seat Lunch Counter 32 seat Dining Car

5932 24 Revenue seat Parlor Car with 5 seat Parlor Drawing Room

5933 24 Revenue seat Parlor Car with 5 seat Parlor Drawing Room

5999 18 Revenue seat Parlor with 15 seat Lounge Observation

64 REVENUE SEAT COACHES American Car & Foundry April, 1935 (Built for and assigned to ABRAHAM LINCOLN)

5803 – 5805

The Baggage 30’ Railway Post Office Car 5751 was rebuilt to a Baggage 44 Revenue seat Coach Combination in November 1936 with no change of number.
The changes to the above consist that affected coach passengers were the rebuilding of 64 revenue seat Coach 5803 into a Buffet Lounge Car in April 1937 with no revenue seating.
The entire train became Gulf Mobile and Ohio property with the purchase from B&O of the Alton effective May 31, 1947 with no changes of car numbers or paint scheme. The cars were simply lettered for the Gulf Mobile & Ohio replacing the former Alton name in the letter boards.
The second B&O consist of 1935 was delivered in June 1935 for service as the ROYAL BLUE between Jersey City and Washington D.C. round trip daily. The cars for the ROYAL BLUE were constructed of Aluminum with a steel center sill running the length of the cars. This train is referred to as the Aluminum train by Railroad historians and the weight of this train compared to the steel train was nearly identical. Not sure about the structural strength of Aluminum the cars sheeting was much thicker than really necessary so any weight savings was never realized. The two trains built of different materials were constructed to see how each would stand up to rail use. Both trains lasted until 1968 when they were finally retired so it would have to be said it was a draw as to which type of material was better. A comparison of maintenance costs for the two different car types bears this out. The consist of the ROYAL BLUE follows:

5750 Baggage 30’ Railway Post Office Car

5800 64 Revenue seat Coach

5801 64 Revenue seat Coach

5802 64 Revenue seat Coach

5700 9 seat Lunch Counter 32 seat Dining Car

5930 24 Revenue seat Parlor Car with 5 seat Parlor Drawing Room

5931 24 Revenue seat Parlor Car with 5 seat Parlor Drawing Room

5998 18 Revenue seat Parlor 15 seat Lounge Observation

Almost immediately the B&O began making changes to the ROYAL BLUE train set. The first change to occur was the rebuilding of 64-revenue seat Coach 6400 into a Buffet Lounge Car without revenue seating and no change of number in July 1935. One year later in July 1936 the Baggage 30’ Railway Post Office Car 5750 was rebuilt to a Baggage 44 Revenue seat Coach Combination retaining its original number. The B&O St. Clare shops in Baltimore constructed a new 60 revenue seat Coach for the ROYAL BLUE and numbered this car 5806 in January 1937. In July, 1937 the nine car ROYAL BLUE train was transferred to B&O subsidiary Alton and repainted in the Red and Maroon color scheme and became the new ABRAHAM LINCOLN at that time operating a round trip daily service between Chicago and St. Louis. The original ABRAHAM LINCOLN consist was renamed ANN RUTLEDGE and continued operating a second daily Chicago - St. Louis round trip daily. In March 1942 Baggage Coach Combination 5750 was shopped and rebuilt to a 60 Revenue seat Coach and was renumbered 5807 at that time. This consist became Gulf Mobile and Ohio property with the merger of the Alton into the G&MO on May 31, 1947.

64 REVENUE SEAT COACHES American Car & Foundry June, 1935 (Built for and assigned to ROYAL BLUE transferred to Alton in 1937 becoming ABRAHAM LINCOLN cars)

5800 – 5802

60 REVENUE SEAT COACH Baltimore & Ohio St. Clare Shops January 1937 (Built for and assigned to ROYAL BLUE reassigned to ABRAHAM LINCOLN in July, 1937)

5806

The B&O turned to there own St. Clare shops in Baltimore for their next two streamlined trains. The first of these to enter service was a new ROYAL BLUE on April 25, 1937 replacing the lightweight streamlined train from American Car & Foundry. The new ROYAL BLUE was nothing more than a group of heavyweight cars streamlined in the roads own shops. The cars were given streamlined roofs with squared ends, side skirting below the car sides to hide the under floor equipment. The cars were given full width diaphragms as well. Interiors of these cars were modernized at the same time. The consist of this ROYAL BLUE follows the number in parenthesis is the heavyweight car number they were rebuilt from:

1300 Baggage 36 Revenue seat Coach Combination (1432)

3520 68 Revenue seat Coach (5299)

3511 54 Revenue seat Coach (5328)

3512 54 Revenue seat Coach (5329)

3065 52 Revenue seat Buffet Coach (5326)

1075 10 seat Lunch Counter 32 seat Dining Car (1051)

2110 26 Revenue seat Parlor Car with 5 seat Parlor Drawing Room (5327)

3300 Buffet Solarium Observation (5325)

This train became the COLUMBIAN on December 9, 1937 operating a daily round trip between Jersey City and Washington when it was replaced by a new streamlined heavyweight consist that became the new ROYAL BLUE on that date. The ROYAL BLUE consist of December, 1937 was nearly identical to the April 1937 train now named the COLUMBIAN. The consist of the December, 1937 ROYAL BLUE was as follows the numbers appearing in parenthesis are the car numbers they were streamlined from:

1301 Baggage 36 Revenue seat Coach Combination (1434)

3521 68 Revenue seat Coach (5293)

3513 54 Revenue seat Coach (5291)

3514 54 Revenue seat Coach (5292)

3066 52 Revenue seat Coach with 7 seat Lunch Counter Car (5295)

1076 44 Revenue seat Coach (1054)

2111 26 Revenue seat Parlor Car with 5 seat Parlor Drawing Room (5296)

3301 Buffet Solarium Observation (5298)

The COLUMBIAN was temporarily replaced by a heavyweight train in November, 1941 while the heavyweight cars of the streamlined consist and some additional cars were rebuilt and streamlined for a second consist of the COLUMBIAN. The COLUMBIAN when it reentered service was a new Coach streamliner operating overnight between Baltimore – Washington and Chicago. Those cars in the original COLUMBIAN consist to receive modifications were 1300 the Baggage 36 revenue seat Coach rebuilt to a Baggage 12 crew Dormitory, Buffet 16 seat Lounge Car renumbered 1306. The two 54-revenue seat Coaches 3511 and 3512 were renumbered 3562 and 3563. The 68 Revenue seat Coach 3520 was remodeled to a 54 revenue seat Coach and renumbered 3564. Cars 3065 the 52 Revenue seat Buffet Coach and 2110 the 26 seat Parlor Car with 5 seat parlor Drawing Room were both rebuilt to 46 revenue seat Coaches with a train stewardess room receiving new numbers 3570 and 3571 respectively. Lunch Counter Dining Car 1075 was shopped and rebuilt to a 47 seat Dining Car and renumbered 1082. The 3300 was renumbered 3303 with no apparent changes taking place to the cars interior. In addition to the above changes the following cars were shopped, remodeled and in some cases rebuilt and all were streamlined for service in a second COLUMBIAN consist. Streamlined 54 Revenue seat Coaches 3558 – 3561 were former heavyweight coaches 5310, 5312-5314 respectively. Newly remodeled 47 seat Dining car 1081 was the former 1050, and Buffet Solarium Observation 3301 was rebuilt and remodeled from 5234. The two streamlined consists were assigned to a new all Coach streamlined service operating between Jersey City and Chicago by way of Baltimore and Washington overnight in each direction. This new service retained the COLUMBIAN name and was inaugurated December 19, 1941 replacing the old Jersey City – Washington COLUMBIAN service. The B&O St. Clare shops had previously streamlined and remodeled eight heavyweight coaches into 54 revenue seat Coaches for service in the streamlined NATIONAL LIMITED in June, 1940. The former 5200 series cars 5244, 5246, 5253, 5256, 5263, 5267, 5287, and 5289 after rebuilding and streamlining were renumbered 3550 – 3557 respectively.
Following WW II the B&O would introduce a pair of five car coach streamliners for service between Baltimore and Cincinnati by way of Washington daily in each direction. These cars unlike previously rebuilt cars from the B&O St. Clare shops were fully streamlined the former heavyweight cars were stripped to the frame and rebuilt completely. Many felt these cars were as good as any cars built by the big three car builders AC&F, Budd or P/S. The quality of the workmanship was unquestioned but some of the interior décor was a little dated for that period. The new CINCINNATIANS entered service January 19, 1947 behind streamlined Presidential Pacific Locomotives painted to match the trailing train in the magnificent Blue and Gray scheme.

5301 PRESIDENT ADAMS 4-6-2 Streamlined Pacific & Tender

1307 EDEN PARK Baggage Crew Day Room Buffet 24 seat Lounge Car

3565 INDIAN HILL 60 revenue seat Coach

3572 OAKLEY 56 Revenue seat Coach with Stewardess Room

3567 COLLEGE HILL 60 Revenue seat Coach

3304 PEEBLES CORNER 24 seat Dining 18 seat Lounge Observation

SECOND CONSIST

5302 PRESIDENT JEFFERSON 4-6-2 Streamlined Pacific & Tender

1308 HYDE PARK Baggage Crew Day Room Buffet 24 seat Lounge Car

3566 WINTON PLACE 60 Revenue seat Coach

3573 NORWOOD 56 Revenue seat Coach with Stewardess Room

3568 WALNUT HILLS 60 Revenue seat Coach

3305 FOUNTAIN SQUARE 24 seat Dining 18 seat Lounge Observation

BAGGAGE CREW DAY ROOM BUFFET 24 SEAT LOUNGE COMBINATION CARS B&O St. Clare Shops December, 1946 (Rebuilt and Streamlined for the CINCINNATIANS)

1307 EDEN PARK

1308 HYDE PARK

60 REVENUE SEAT COACHES B&O St. Clare Shops December 1946 (Rebuilt and Streamlined for the CINCINNATIANS)

3565 INDIAN HILL

3566 WINTON PLACE

3567 COLLEGE HILL

2568 WALNUT HILLS

56 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH STEWARDESS ROOM B&O St. Clare Shops December 1946 (Rebuilt and Streamlined for the CINCINNATIANS)

3572 OAKLEY

3573 NORWOOD

24 SEAT DINING 18 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS B&O St. Clare Shops December 1946 (Rebuilt and Streamlined for CINCINNATIANS)

3304 PEEBLES CORNERS

3305 FOUNTAIN SQUARE

Two 52 revenue seat streamlined Coaches 3574 AVONDALE and 3575 PRICE HILL were completed by St. Clare Shops in March, 1947 and replaced 60 Revenue seat Coaches 3567 COLLEGE HILL and 3568 WALNUT HILL in the CINCINNATIANS at that time.

52-REVENUE SEAT COACHES B&O St. Clare Shops March 1947 (Rebuilt and Streamlined for the CINCINNATIANS)

3574 AVONDALE

3575 PRICE HILL

The prewar COLUMBIAN consists received four rebuilt streamlined 42 revenue seat Coaches in June 1948 for each consist. These eight cars numbered 3576 – 3583 and a Baggage 12 Crew Dormitory Buffet 24 seat Lounge Car were the last cars completely rebuilt by the B&O St. Clare Shops for streamlined passenger service.

42 REVENUE SEAT COACHES B&O St. Clare Shops June 1948 (Rebuilt and Streamlined for the COLUMBIANS)

3576 – 3583

Brand new COLUMBIAN consists were ordered from Pullman Standard for April, 1949 delivery and these two train sets have the distinction of being the only all new consists ever built for the B&O in the postwar period. These two eight car streamlined trains were two of the finest Coach Streamliners to ever enter service in the eastern United States. Although the pair were intended as a daytime operation between Chicago and Baltimore by way of Washington the two new trains entered overnight service May 5, 1949. The CINCINNATIAN was already a daylight operation over part of the same route and the B&O was none to happy with the bottom line produced by the CINCINNATIAN. As a matter of fact the CINCINNATIAN lost money every month it was in operation. The COLUMBIANS featured the first Dome Coaches to enter scheduled service between Chicago and Washington – Baltimore. These Pullman Standard built dome coaches gave passengers their first nighttime viewing of the passing countryside when the B&O installed two batteries of three locomotive headlights at the forward end of the dome coach’s roof. One in each three light battery was angled at 60 degrees from the cars centerline and the remaining two were installed at 80 degrees and 85 degrees. When one battery or the other was lit they afforded the passengers in the domes some magnificent night views. This lighting system was exclusive to the B&O and no other railroad that operated domes in overnight service provided a lighting system for their passengers. All cars in the new COLUMBIAN consists were both numbered and named. The B&O had been an EMC later EMD E unit buyer for passenger trains but with the COLUMBIANS purchased A-B-A sets of EMD F3 units. These units developed 1,500 hp each and ran on B trucks compared to the E unit A-1-A trucks. No reason was ever given for the COLUMBIAN being assigned F units instead of E units initially. The train entered service with just an A-B on the head end instead of the proposed A-B-A sets for power. The 3,000 hp developed by the two units were capable of maintaining schedule and even making up lost time when needed. The following are the two consists of the COLUMBIANS:

87A EMD F3A 1,500 hp Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

87X EMD F3B 1,500 hp Diesel Passenger Booster Unit

1350 HARPERS FERRY Baggage 12 Crew Dormitory Buffet 24 seat Coffee Shop Combination Car

5500 CONNELLSVILLE 56 Revenue seat Coach

5502 GARY 56 Revenue seat Coach

5550 HIGH DOME 42 Revenue seat Strata Dome Coach with 24 non-Revenue seats in Dome

1090 AKRON 38 seat Dining Car

5504 MARTINSBURG 56 Revenue seat Coach

5506 NEW CASTLE 56 Revenue seat Coach

3315 CHICAGO 27 seat Tavern Lounge Bar 26 seat Lounge Observation

SECOND CONSIST

88A EMD F3A 1,500 hp Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

88X EMD F3B 1,500 hp Diesel Passenger Booster Unit

1351 SILVER SPRING Baggage 12 Crew Dormitory 24 seat Coffee Shop Combination Car

5501 CUMBERLAND 56 Revenue seat Coach

5503 LA PAZ 56 Revenue seat Coach

5551 SKY DOME 42 Revenue seat Strata Dome Coach with 24 non-Revenue seats in Dome

1091 PITTSBURG 38 seat Dining Car

5505 McKEESPORT 56 Revenue seat Coach

5507 YOUNGSTOWN 56 Revenue seat Coach

3316 WASHINGTON 27 seat Tavern Lounge Bar 26 seat Lounge Observation

The CINCINNATIAN would have its route changed June 25, 1950 from a Baltimore – Cincinnati daylight schedule to a Detroit – Cincinnati daylight schedule where it would remain until Amtrak. On this new routing the train sets became successful almost from the beginning.
The COLUMBIAN had two major changes take place in 1958, first in February the COLUMBIANS received a 24 Single Room 8 Double Room Slumbercoach for each train set. These were the first Slumbercoaches to enter service in the eastern United States. The second change to occur to the COLUMBIAN in 1958 was it’s combining with the all Pullman CAPITOL LIMITED. The combined train then operated under the CAPITOL LIMITED name and the COLUMBIAN name was retired from B&O service. The CAPITOL LIMITED then became a Coach and Pullman Train operating between Baltimore and Chicago by way of Washington.

24 SINGLE ROOM 8 DOUBLE ROOM SLUMBERCOACHES Budd Company February, 1958 Plan: 9540 Lot: 9691 – 211 (Built for and assigned to COLUMBIANS)

7700 SLUMBERLAND

7701 DREAMLAND

The B&O would lease three additional Slumbercoaches beginning in May 1959 and the Missouri Pacific would lease a fourth beginning in September 1959. This made it possible for the B&O and MP to jointly offer through Slumbercoach service between Baltimore-Washington and San Antonio, Texas. The B&O NATIONAL LIMITED carried the through car from Baltimore to St. Louis and the MP TEXAS EAGLE beyond St. Louis to San Antonio. During the summer of 1959 the three B&O Slumbercoaches provided Baltimore – St. Louis service. With the fall schedule change and the delivery of MP Slumbercoach 699 SOUTHLAND the four cars began providing through daily service in each direction between Baltimore and San Antonio. Through Slumbercoach service ended in 1964 and the B&O returned the three Slumbercoaches they had leased to Budd. Budd in turn sold all three of the former B&O leased Slumbercoaches and later the MP Slumbercoach when it to was returned at the end of its lease to the Northern Pacific Railway.

24 SINGLE ROOM 8 DOUBLE ROOM SLUMBERCOACHES Budd Company May, 1959 (Built for and assigned to NATIONAL LIMITED later became through cars via TEXAS EAGLE to San Antonio)

7702 RESTLAND

7703 SLEEPLAND

7704 THRIFTLAND

TTFN Al
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, May 22, 2006 7:00 AM

ENCORE! Courtesy: www.viarail.ca


We open at 6 AM. (All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


Monday once again! Join us for some fine pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery – a selection from our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast – and a cuppa Joe![tup]


Daily Wisdom


A man who keeps his eyes on the horizon like he’s expectin’ the sheriff to budge up on him has more on his mind than seein’ the sights.



Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear –
ENCORE: Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) -
Arrives Tuesday!



* Weekly Calendar:


Wednesday: Toy & Model Trains Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday

SATURDAY, May 27th is West Coast S Dave’s B’day Bash! –
Scheduled for NOON to 4 PM (Pacific) – 3 to 7 PM (Eastern)



MVP Award Winners


April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars



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Comedy Corner

Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)


[:I] An old Indian goes to court to change his name.
Judge: I see your name is Joe Crapface. Is that correct?
Indian: Yes sir.
Judge: I certainly see why you would like to change it. So what name would you like to change to?
Indian: Fred Crapface
Judge: Fred Crapface?
Indian: Yeah. Me no can take it anymore. All the time people say to me, "Hello Joe. What you know." It drive me crazy! [:I]


[:I] Guido, the Mafia Hitman discovers that his accountant has been embezzling money from him. The accountant, who happens to be deaf, has stolen over $10 million dollars. Guido goes to the accountant's office with his lawyer in tow. His lawyer can read sign language.
Guido asks the accountant, "Where is the $10 million dollars you have stolen from me?"
The account signs back, and the lawyer interprets, "I don't have your money."
Guido pulls out a .357 magnum and points it at the accountant's head and again demands to know where his money is. The accountant begins to sign frantically, "OK! OK! Don't kill me! It's in a suitcase that I buried in my back yard behind the garage next to my tomato plants!!"
Guido asks his lawyer, "Well, what did he say?"
The Lawyer says, "I don't think you have the stones to pull the trigger!" [:I]
[:I]


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre


NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, May 21st thru May 27th: The Pink Panther (1964) starring: Peter Sellers, David Niven & Capucine –and- The Odd Couple (1968) starring: Jack Lemon & Walter Mathau. SHORT: Pop Goes the Easel (1935).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, May 28th thru June 2nd: Patton (1970) starring: George C. Scott & Karl Malden –and- The Eagle Has Landed (1977) starring Michael Caine, Robert Duvall & Donald Sutherland. SHORT: Uncivil Warriors (1935).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 21 May 2006, 06:44:07 (337) Sunday’s Info & 20-Post Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 21 May 2006, 07:01:09 (337) 4 Pix, narrative & joke!

(3) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 21 May 2006, 07:48:30 (337) 4 Pix!

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 21 May 2006, 07:49:18 (337) Now Playing at the Emporium!

(5) pwolfe Pete Posted: 21 May 2006, 07:58:34 (337) 5 Pix w/descriptions!

(6) pwolfe Pete Posted: 21 May 2006, 09:14:19 (338) Pix comments

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 21 May 2006, 12:48:52 (338) 9 Rendezvous Pix!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 21 May 2006, 13:54:11 (338) 9 Rendezvous Pix!

(9) wanswheel Mike Posted: 21 May 2006, 17:04:25 (338) 11 Pix!

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 21 May 2006, 19:34:07 (338) 8 Rendezvous Pix!

(11) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 21 May 2006, 19:58:18 (338) Comments

(12) pwolfe Pete Posted: 21 May 2006, 20:53:46 (338) Comments, adieu & Pix!



That’s it![tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 22, 2006 5:59 AM
Good morining at this start of another productive work week. Tom, way too early for much more than a hot cuppa Joe and a "kick in the chest" ( one of those tacky Cinnamon Bear Claws ). Today sees our mutual friend and colleague Pete "on the road" for renewal of kinships "over there." Very soon, our "path finder" and Conductor will be blazing the rails in the Tundra, plains and mountains of Alaska with many a new tale following this ambitious trek. Already, Lars should be well nye near his destination via Amtrak's finest. BK now basques in the climes of that Pacific Paradise Hawaii, while still others finalize their vacation plans to familiar or exoctic retreats around the globe. Me? I will be purchasing a home generator for a promised record hurricane season; replenishing my emergency rations; prunning menacing trees and shrubs; hoarding petrol for escape routes and preparing Minnie the Moocher's survival cache with kitty litter for her "cat flap." Now I ask you: is life fair?

I'm not sure of Rob's summer itenerary but at last liaison, his plans didn't exactly include the "Islands" or the French Riviera either, right Rob?[:O] Sooo, for those folks who remain "rudderless" for the next couple of weeks, why not plan to "shed a tear in your beer" with Rob and me right here at "Our" Place. We two can "show and tell" of our "taste of Toronto" with lots'a R.R. lore of yore, so not to bore any more to the door than before...THWACK!!!.....thanks Boris, I needed that.

Yesterday, between changing out a new car battery and finding AAA isn't the bargain I thought it was; I caught a special on T.V. called "On the Rails." It was a documentary by Mark Williams on the narrow gauge R.R. origins in Wales and a Road called "Festinian" (Sp.?) built by Thomas Bach around 1869. This was a slate hauling line that developed into "the largest narrrow gauge line in the world" at one time. Two early loco manufacturers were Wm. Garrett and Robt. Francis Fairly, the latter developing the "Double Fairly" steamer which was copied by General Wm. Palmer for his new Denver and Rio Grande R.R. around 1871. The "Double..." , with 2 sets of drivers and the coal load on one end of the solid frame and water on the opposite end, wasn't suited for use in the Colorado Rocky Mtns. But, American builders adapted the concept into what we now know as the Decapods of "Durango - Silverton" fame. The documentary went on to elaborate on steam in America and the U.K which was well presented and cinemagraphed. If you have a chance to see this hour long presentation, I surely recommend it.

It is off to Naples this a.m. ( FL. not Italy ).[V] And, I need plenty of time, "just in case." Sooo, Boris [Hmmm, velvet house robe with combat boots] give us a ring here, okay? BONGGGG; you're just too good for this place old boy. [When will he ever leave!] Happy rails all
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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, May 22, 2006 1:14 AM
Happy travels Pete, enjoy the olde country.

Tom, your pictures are great. Even the strangers look perfect.

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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:53 PM
Hi Tom and all.

Just about in before sunset.

MIKE Loved the old photos of Nebraska, Wyoming and Promotory Point.[tup][tup][tup].
good pic of the Stooges too.

TED Many thanks for the kind words although the bride is staying here as she has not enough vacation time to come to the wedding over there.I will do my best to pop into Our Place and I know I shall miss you all while I,m away.
One thing I must say though TED your posts are NEVER trivial to me. [yeah].

TOM The sun was still here when I started. Great photos of the Rendezvous with ROB and TED.Those double-deck trains look great to travel in, in the UK there is nothing like them. It is good to see the subway stations looking so clean a bit different from the London Subway.

Many thanks for the wishes on my trip and you have a great time in Alaska.
So it will be
for a while. I will be sure to have Bathams for TED and you all.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:58 PM
I hope I'm in time to wish Pete and Mrs. Pete a bon voyage and a pleasant stay in the U.K. We will miss you more than even we realize at this point. Please think of us when you lift a Bathams from time to time. Tom, the pix in Toronto are outstanding and a vivid reminder of the fine experience it was all around.[tup] I've had some car troubles here (always on Sunday) and so, I'm checking in later than I had hoped. Doug, Mike, Dave and, of course Pete came thru like "old pros" with worthwhile photo stories that run from the macabre to the sublime. Rob, you are the "guardian" who always binds the loose pieces together, especially in times of drowth. With the projected dry spell forthcoming, I shall do what I'm able to aid in keeping the "turf" green. Perhaps, in some small way, I can "fill in " a few gaps with my usual trivial commentary. Wiser heads prevail with choosing the Encore motiff while saving new territory for when we are whole again. I must get this out now, so pardon the abrupt closing tonight. Happy rails to all, see ya in the morinin'.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:34 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

This is for Wolfman Pete - Have a safe 'n wonderful trip back to Merry Olde and we'll see you back here in late June! [tup] [tup] [tup]


Just a continuing sample of what we experienced at the 1st Annual ”Our” Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in Toronto! . . . . . .


More from Day 1 – May 12th, 2006:


TTC subway at Colllege station stop




College TTC subway station




TTC subway at College station stop




Here comes the subway train!




Boarding VIA Rail at Union Station




Ted boarding VIA Rail coach #8306 bound for Brantford!




VIA Rail coach #8306




St. George Arms – Day is Done!



That’s it for Day 1 – the “official” Rendezvous Day!


If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]



REMINDER!
Let's try to keep this as a "sunrise to sunset" event!
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, May 21, 2006 5:04 PM

1869 photo: 100th Meridian in Nebraska - U.S. National Archives


1869 photo: Cheyenne, Wyoming - U.S. National Archives


1869 photo: Green River Bridge, Wyoming - U.S. National Archives


1869 photo: Devil's Gate Bridge, Wyoming - U.S. National Archives


1869 photo: Promontory Point, Utah - U.S. National Archives


1869 photo: Promontory Point, Utah - U.S. National Archives


1869 photo: Promontory Point, Utah - U.S. National Archives


Moe, Curly & Larry - Library of Congress
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:54 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!



Continuing on with our experiences at the 1st Annual ”Our” Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in Toronto! . . . . . .

More from Day 1 – May 12th, 2006:


Toronto (TTC) Subway cars



Tom ‘n Ted “fuzzy” on the TTC Subway!




The best sides of Rob ‘n Ted – exiting the TTC Subway!




”Our” Carlton Street (TTC) trolley




”Our” Carlton Street (TTC) trolley – interior, looking aft at Ted ‘n Rob




Toronto’s Maple Leaf Gardens on Carlton Street – vacated




”Our” Carlton Street (TTC) trolley – interior, looking forward –
and yes, that’s TROLLEYBOY (at least half of him!)




”Our” Carlton Street (TTC) trolley




”Our” Carlton Street (TTC) trolley



Maybe more later . . .


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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:48 PM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Just a continuing sample of what we experienced at the 1st Annual ”Our” Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in Toronto! . . . . . .

More from Day 1 – May 12th, 2006:


GO Transit ticket counter – Union Station, Toronto




GO Transit train board – Lakeshore E. is us!




Here comes the train!




GO Transit train – upper level




GO Transit train – Pickering station stop, eastbound




Westbound GO Train arriving Pickering station




GO Transit train – Pickering station stop, westbound




Ted ‘n Rob aboard westbound GO Transit train




GO Transit train - upper level




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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:14 AM
Hi Tom and all.

Great pics of the earlier diesels ROB liked the caboose still in service in 2003[tup][tup].

TOM good comedy films at The Emporium hopefully should be able to catch them tonite before I leave in the morning. I haven't seen the re-make of The Pink Panther but I doubt if anyone can do Clouseau as Sellers did.
Off out now but should be in latter. PETE.
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Posted by pwolfe on Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:58 AM
Hi Tom and all.

Very interesting CTC pics DOUG. In the fairly recent addition to the National Railway Museum at York, England there is a gallery which overlooks the north of York station on the east coast main line. there is a CTC board connected to the York signalling centre, so as the trains arrive and depart York you can see their progress on the board complete with the train reporting number.
I really must get to the IRM one day and I must agree this is a trully great thread.[tup][tup][tup].

These are the last of the current batch of Alans pics there should be so more whenI get back including some Irish pics.




These are at the Lincolnshire Light Railway at Winthorpe Park , Skegness the 4-Wheel Diesel machcanical loco PAUL was built by Motor Rail of Bedford in 1926 and is their works number 3995and came from the Nocton Railway. The line has 4 other simular diesels. The steam loco there Jurassic was at the back of the shed.
The car is said to be the only surviving car from the Ashover Light Railway in Drebyshire.

Some more of my pics from the Essex Steam Railway in Connecticut.






Click to enlarge and I hope you enjoy them . PETE.
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:49 AM
Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

. . . Sunday, May 21st thru May 27th: The Pink Panther (1964) starring: Peter Sellers, David Niven & Capucine –and- The Odd Couple (1968) starring: Jack Lemon & Walter Mathau. SHORT: Pop Goes the Easel (1935).


The Pink Panther (1964)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: As a child, Princess Dala is given, by her father, the largest diamond in the world, in which if you stare into it can be seen a "Pink Panther" hence the name. However, now as a young woman, rebels in her home country have seized power and are demanding the return of the jewel. Dala relaxes on holiday in an exclusive skiing resort but noted British playboy, Sir Charles Lytton is in town. He is secretly "The Phantom" - infamous jewel thief who has eyes on the Pink Panther. Charles's playboy nephew George follows to the resort in an attempt to steal it and blame it on "The Phantom", not knowing that it's his uncle. On the Phantom's trail is Inspector Jacques Clouseau, from France, and his wife who, unknowingly to Jacques, is the lover of Charles and helper in the Phantom's crime. Jacques tries to stop the attempts but he is so clueless that when several attempts are made at a fantasy-dress party, Jacques looks everywhere but the right place...

from: www.imdb.com



The Odd Couple (1968)


QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Felix Ungar has just broken up with his wife. Despondent, he goes to kill himself but is saved by his friend Oscar Madison. With nowhere else to go, Felix is urged by Oscar to move in with him, at least for a while. The only problem is that Felix is neat, tidy, and neurotic, whereas Oscar is slovenly and casual.

from: www.imdb.com


Three Stooges Short Subject: Pop Goes the Easel (1935)


QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly
The Stooges are out-of-work vagrants trying to get jobs by each grabbing a broom and sweeping up. But, the store owner thinks they're stealing and yells for the police. The boys get away by ducking into an art school. Once there, they are mistaken for new art students and proceed to wreak havoc, as usual, culminating in a great wet clay fight.



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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:48 AM
Good early morning gents. Some nice shots from Doug to satrt us off right this Sunday am [tup][8D] The joke [:O] at least it didn't break the groanameter again [swg]

Here's my first serving for the day enjoy.
Some first gen loco's and early second generation locomotives stil doing their thing on the major railroads.



CPR GP9's in Hamiton



ATSF F45 banging away in freight service



CPR C424 leading a train in the 90's



Here's a blast from the past bringing up the rear in 2003 !

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:01 AM
Good morning, and thanks for the great ENCORES yesterday, Pete, Rob, Mike, Dave and Tom. We didn't do all that bad considering how few of us there were here, and as a matter of fact, I'm more into concentrating on the people we do have, rather than focusing on how small the numbers are. We still have the best thread on Trains.com, no matter what, so let's just be happy for that! [soapbox] [:)]

Dave's post yesterday on the train derailment gave me an idea as to some related pix I could share with ya'll today ...so here they are:

At 4:12, on IRM Members’ Weekend Saturday, September 19,2004, Dispatcher Harold Krewer sits at IRM’s CTC board. Formerly used in Colorado on the Union Pacific, this CTC machine is a Union Switch & Signal model 506A that was reconfigured for our demonstration railroad. On this day, the board was only partly wired for service, and Harold only used the motherboard’s (track diagram) occupancy lights as an aid for dispatching with systematic block signal (ABS) rules in effect. Below this are the actual CTC switches; once these are wired, the top row of switches will control the position of the track switches, and the second tier will set a block for eastward or westward movement. Following the end of the 2004 operating season, the panel was sent out to a commercial contractor for repainting and rebuilding. Photo by Greg Heier


Here’s what the CTC machine modelboard displayed for Dispatcher Krewer at 4:12 pm, on September 19. Indicator lights show a westbound train passing the East Switch (A), a westbound train between Olson Road and Schmidt Siding (B), an eastbound train entering Schmidt Siding (C), an eastbound train at Spaulding Tower (D), and an eastbound train waiting for the signal at East Switch (E). Trains east of Karstens (F) are not indicated, since only part of the panel had been wired at that time. The portion of the motherboard showing the line between Johnson Siding and Kishwaukee Grove (G) is outside of this picture. Trains crossing from one block to another are indicated by Illuminated lamps on the blocks. Photo by Greg Heier


For many years, Chicago’s Museum of Science and Industry had a large O scale model railroad that was controlled by an actual Union Switch & Signal CTC machine.. Visitors could follow train progress as the indicator lights blinked across the fully functional modelboard.


All of BNSF’s dispatchers work in this dispatching center in Fort Worth, Texas. The high-tech center has computer-assisted dispatching with huge video screens along the walls. Security concerns have closed the facility to visitors.


[:I] A salesman from KFC walked up to the Pope and offers him a million dollars if he would change "The Lord's Prayer" from "give us this day our daily bread" to "give us this day our daily chicken." The Pope refused his offer.
Two weeks later, the man offered the pope 10 million dollars to change it from "give us this day our daily bread" to "give us this day our daily chicken" and again the Pope refused the man's generous offer. Another week later, the man offered the Pope 20 million dollars and finally the Pope accepted. The following day, the Pope said to all his officials, "I have some good news and some bad news. 'The good news is, that we have just received a check for 20 million dollars. The bad news is, we lost the Wonder Bread account!''' [:I]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:44 AM

ENCORE! Courtesy: www.viarail.ca


SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs but do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day![tup][tup][tup]


We open at 6 AM Monday morning. (All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Daily Wisdom


A full house divided wins no pot.



Info for the Day:

Railroads from Yesteryear –
ENCORE: Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) -
Arrives Tuesday!


* Weekly Calendar:


Wednesday: Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday

SATURDAY, May 27th is West Coast S Dave’s B’day Bash! –
Scheduled for NOON to 4 PM (Pacific) – 3 – 7 PM (Eastern)



MVP Award Winners

April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars



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Comedy Corner


Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)

[:I] A man walks into a bar and orders 10 shots of whiskey for himself. The bartender looks at him and says, "Are you out of your mind? I can’t give you all that booze, I will end up losing my liquor license."
To that the man replied, "Please, do it for me just this one time, I just found out my son is gay." The bartender gave the guy a hard look and said "OK, but just this one time and that's it, never again."
The man agreed and as fast as the bartender poured the shots the guy slammed them down.
A week later the same guy walked into the same bar and asked the same bartender for 10 more shots of whiskey. The bartender said "Woah, I thought last week we agreed that this was never going to happen again."
The guy replied, "Please do it just one more time for me, I swear this will be the last time........I just found out my other son was gay."
Again the bartender gives the guy a hard look and says, "OK, but this is absolutely the last time." The guy agreed and again he slammed all 10 shots as fast as the bartender could pour them.
A week later the same guy walked into the same bar and asked the same bartender yet again for 10 shots of whiskey. The bartender looked at the guy and said "What’s going on man, doesn’t anyone in your family like women?!!?!!"
The guy says "Yeah, my wife" [:I]


[tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup][tup]



The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre


NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, May 21st thru May 27th: The Pink Panther (1964) starring: Peter Sellers, David Niven & Capucine –and- The Odd Couple (1968) starring: Jack Lemon & Walter Mathau. SHORT: Pop Goes the Easel (1935).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, May 28th thru June 2nd: Patton (1970) starring: George C. Scott & Karl Malden –and- The Eagle Has Landed (1977) starring Michael Caine, Robert Duvall & Donald Sutherland. SHORT: Uncivil Warriors (1935).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 07:25:35 (336) Saturday’s Info & 15-Post Summary

(2) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 20 May 2006, 07:45:50 (336) Da Bear on Saturday!

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 09:01:25 (336) ENCORE! Fallen Flag: ACL

(4) barndad Doug Posted: 20 May 2006, 09:18:44 (336) Musings from the Barn & ENCORE: Pickleworks Wreck & joke

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 12:06:58 (336) Acknowledgments & Comments

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 12:18:53 (336) B’day Watch List (rev)

(7) West Coast S Dave Posted: 20 May 2006, 14:36:54 (337) Left Coast Report!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 15:43:40 (337) for Dave

(9) barndad Doug Posted: 20 May 2006, 16:10:21 (337) ENCORE! Pickleworks Wreck, Pt II & joke

(10) wanswheel Mike Posted: 20 May 2006, 16:31:46 (337) URLs, etc.

(11) West Coast S Dave Posted: 20 May 2006, 18:18:26 (337) Amtrak-Conrail wreck, etc.

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 19:46:09 (337) Acknowledgments & Comments

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 19:53:12 (337) B’day Watch List (2nd rev)

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 20 May 2006, 20:43:22 (337) Inclusive Post

(15) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 20 May 2006, 20:50:41 (337) ENCORE: Classic Juice #26 Great Gorge Route

(16) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 20 May 2006, 21:13:08 (337) Classic Index ver 7

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 May 2006, 21:20:27 (337) Acknowledgments & Comments

(18) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 20 May 2006, 21:52:58 (337) Count Robulla’s Nite Cap!

(19) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 20 May 2006, 22:05:51 (337) ENCORE: Classic Steam #22

(20) pwolfe Pete Posted: 20 May 2006, 23:04:40 (337) Wolfman’s Nite Howl




That’s it! [tup][;)]


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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:04 PM
Hi Tom and all

A pint of the Usual please LEON.

Sorry for the late hour but we had to finish some home improvements and then we had guests this evening.

Anyway I have caught up on a busy saturday with the great Encores and Posts from DOUG, TOM and ROB always worth reading again[yeah][tup].

TED Great posts[tup]. Glad you are still enjoying the Magazine. For over twenty years now all new cars on British railways have had powered doors. There are some of the hand operated outward opening doors mainly on the High Speed Train sets,these are fitted with door locks which are realeased by the guard(conductor) when, as they say over the PA , " the train as come to a complete stop at the platform".

DAVE Sobering report of the Amtrak accident.

MIKE Thanks for the photos of the second generation Multiple units [tup][tup][tup] I will have to do a post or two on these when I get back.
I think the caption for the Caledonian Sleeper car is wrong it says the car is in Victoria station I think they mean London's Euston station as this is the usual staring point of the sleeper plus Victoria doesn't have the overhead electrification wires.great pics though as are the Alaskan and all the others[tup][tup][tup].

TOM You have got our phone number so if you could come to England let the bride know
although I hope to give you an E-mail from over there on my mates puter as I may not have a phone. Dont forget the Brit-Rail Pass[:)].It would be great to see you over there .[yeah].

It is not very long until your Alaska trip the more pics I see of Alaska the more I think it is a beautiful State.I'm sure you will have a wonderful time up there, and have a few Keith's Ale for me and I will have a few Bathams for you. [^].
I have a couple of Alans pics left for tomorrow. PETE.

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