"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[trolleyboy]

Good afternoon gentlemen. Good to see several of you in already today [tup]. Our fearless leader is away now on his long awaited and deserved Alaskan getaway, so happy rails 'n' wings Tom [tup]And what a trooper you got the summetry in and a wonderfully complete C&O encore up and out there for all to enjoy [tup]

Al You sir did not disapoint a fine rundown of the power and cars of the main C&O passenger varnish [tup]Hopefully Sir Ted will make it in and enjoy the remenicing as well.

Mike Glad you apprecaited the tiny tidbits of info i was able to proveide for Tom's marvelous phot spreads from Sunday. Canadain Military history has been a keen interest and important thing for both myself and my wife.We both have several WW1 and 2 vets in our respective families, and to us it's extremely important to remember and foster rememberance in others. Fine on side and topic photo urls as usual today sir, we can always count on you to dig up some important tidbits of info for us on this thread.

CM3 I can smell the sights and sounds of the Washington coach yards, and the consists of both those trains. thank-you sir a true fine shinning example of what this thread is about. a tip of my engineers cap to you [tup]

Rob

[wanswheel]

Just stopping by for some more peace and quiet.

Here's a few C&O postcard-size pictures

Pere Marquette
http://www.chessieshop.com/gallery/photos/cspr1698.jpg
http://www.chessieshop.com/gallery/photos/cspr2088.jpg
http://www.chessieshop.com/gallery/photos/cspr1581.jpg
http://www.chessieshop.com/gallery/photos/cspr2087.jpg

Sportsman & tunnel
http://www.chessieshop.com/gallery/photos/cohs42.jpg

FFV http://www.chessieshop.com/gallery/photos/cohs6714.jpg

CM3, great post!

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Many itmes in the box today, and thanks to all for posting.

As C&O is the theme for today, here's some memories that I culled out of the notebooks. This piece has to do with both the L&N and the C&O as they were "of a piece" in Louisville. This is kind of a bittersweet offering as the trains, locomotives, and in some cases, the railroad they ran on are all gone.

Mint Juleps and Black Diamonds: Memories of the “George Washington”

Just before Amtrak, the Louisville and Nashville’s “Pan American” operated between Cincinnati and New Orleans via Louisville. It carried through cars for Florida from the “South Wind” between Louisville and Montgomery where these cars were handed over to the Seaboard Coast Line for the remainder of their journey. The “South Wind” did not operate every day, so the “Pan” was shorter than usual on certain runs.

The “Pan American” carried a mixture of stainless steel and blue-painted cars. The stainless cars generally had block lettering while the blue cars carried the name Louisville and Nashville in gold script. Some of the stainless cars had black script lettering.

The usual “Pan” consist included a baggage car, two or more coaches, a counter-lounge, and a 10/6 sleeper which operated between Louisville and New Orleans. “South Wind” cars usually ran on the head end. These cars included coaches and sleepers and a dome car during the winter season.

Power was either a pair of E7s or a pair of E8s in gray and yellow livery. The E8s were mostly ex-Frisco units which had been named for racehorses. Some of these engines survived until Amtrak days and finished out their careers in Pittsburgh.

The ride from Nashville to Louisville always included a big breakfast in the L&N’s dining car. The counter-lounge cars were ex Maine-Central cars. A heavyweight diner ran on the days the lightweight counter cars did not. The heavyweight car gave a beautiful ride. The northbound run was through pleasant rolling countryside. The train moved along at a steady pace except for its passage over Muldraughs Hill. The hill was as big an operational headache to the “Old Reliable: as Alleghany was to the C&O.

Louisville Union Station’s layout was that of a stub on a wye which meant that all trains had to go through some complicated maneuvers to get into the station. The Es would be cut off and a black and gold painted SW switcher would attack the train. The Wind cars and the Louisville sleeper would be cut out and shoved onto adjacent tracks. The baggage car would be recoupled to the train. Meanwhile, car inspectors would be checking running gear while another crew watered the cars. A new set of Es backed down and coupled onto the train. Baggage and express would be loaded and unloaded. While all of this was happening, the “South Wind’s” cars were being readied for their trip up the P Company to Chicago. All of this business was conducted under an immense train shed – as only the L&N had on their stations. The “South Wind” departed, immediately followed by the “Pan American.”

It was then that passengers noticed the short train sitting in the far corner of the train shed. A sign at the gate, black letters on a yellow background, proclaimed that this train was the C&O flagship, “George Washington.” The “George” left Louisville behind a single E8. The cars were stainless steel with blue and yellow striping, except for the head end car which was blue and gray. The consist included a combine coach, one or two lightweight coaches, a “Club” series diner lounge and a “City” series 10/6 sleeper, often the “City of Beckley.” The train was always clean; inside and out. Those of us who periodically enjoyed some of the excesses of the northeast were surprised at how clean the C&O managed to keep their equipment; even in winter.

The train would be called far enough in advance to allow the passengers to get settled in. Departure from Louisville was always interesting because of the “street” running the train dad while getting out of town. The cars really rocked going through the wye track and switches around the station.

Between Louisville and Winchester, Kentucky, was the roughest part of the trip. The station at Winchester was a brick structure with a distinct C&O architectural flavor. This was the boundary between rough and smooth track.

The “George” was now on the C&O and it immediately picked up speed on its eastward trip across Kentucky. This part of the ride was through gentle rolling country which was full of farms. The grass was like a green carpet in the spring, and even in the winter, the harshness of snow and bare trees was somewhat softened by the contours of the landscape.

The diner beckoned between Lexington and Ashland. The menu included three entrees: roast beef, fish, or pork chops. Dinner included potatoes, vegetable, and salad. Passengers could select dessert from blueberry pie, baked apple, ice cream with chocolate sauce, or cheese and crackers. The complete roast beef dinner sold for $4.25. There was also a buffet special, usually veal parmagiana, which listed for $2.75.

The Louisville section arrived at Ashland at 8:30 p.m. The Detroit section pulled in at around 8:50 p.m. and the trains were combined for the 25-minute trip to Huntington. The Cincinnati section arrived at Ashland at 9:24 p.m., and departed at 9:30 p.m. for a 9:50 p.m. arrival at Huntington. All trains were combined at Huntington for the trek across the mountains to Charlottesville. This involved a lot of switching, and it was possible to lose track of where your car was. Train personnel were careful to warn passengers to “stick close” to their cars, especially if one or the other trains was running late.

The passage through West Virginia, especially along New River in the moonlight was beautiful, but the smooth ride often put me to sleep.

The “George” was broken up at Charlottesville. The early riser would be treated to watching a GP7 or GP9 making up the Newport News and Washington sections of the train. Yard engineers handled the cars gently to keep from awakening sleeping passengers, but no time was wasted in switching.

E8s would couple onto the Washington section, air tests would be made, and the “George” set off on the last leg of its journey to Washington. The run finished on joint C&O/Southern trackage. The train paused at Alexandria, passed by Pot Yard, crossed the Potomac and slid under the Capitol into the lower level of Washington Union station. The Es would be cut off to thread their way through the maze of terminal trackage to Ivy City. Passengers streamed toward the station at a blue and white Washington Terminal RS1 coupled onto the George and pulled it off to the coach yard to be cleaned, turned, and readied for its next trip.

Each railroad’s passenger trains had their own atmosphere which gave the trains their character. The “George Washington” was no exception.

The “George” used to carry through cars to New York. These cars ran on the Pennsylvania Railroad north of Washington. It was a splendid sight to see stainless, blue and yellow C&O cars mixed in with tuscan red PRR cars, rolling along behind a GG1. The C&O cars stood out among other cars from different lines at Sunnyside Yard. An alert passenger could easily spot them in the yard from the window of a “Penn job” coming off the Hell Gate Bridge and into New York.

I was awakened in my roomette one snowy night just before Christmas, 1969. The “George” had been late out of Huntington because of heavy snows in Ohio which had delayed the Cincinnati sections. I had gone to bed but was now wide awake from the rocking motion of a train in a hurry. Snow billowed up along the sides of the cars from the speed of our passing. The “George” was making up time and a pair of C&O E8s were letting the scattered houses along the way know about it. We rounded a curve and far behind I could see the markers on the last car (a business car) shining through the snow. We had about 22 cars on the train; 17 of which went to Washington. We were late into Washington, but the sight of the train in the snow was worth the delay.

On May 1, 1971 I rode the last “Pan American” from Nashville to Louisville. The Pan carried its usual consist plus cars from the “Gulf Wind,” a tri-weekly train which ran between New Orleans and Jacksonville. A track gang was working at the north end of the station trackage in Nashville. They removed their caps as the last “Pan” passed by. I watched the switching drill at Louisville. The “Pan” departed, and then the headlight of C&O 1468 stabbed through the darkness under the train shed. The last Louisville section of the “George” passed in review; a typical consist with the “City of Beckley” bringing up the rear. The train swept by, its engine and cars rocking through the switches. It went around the wye and was gone; just a faint haze of smoke in the air. It seemed like another day’s departure from Louisville, but it was the end of an era.

work safe

[passengerfan]

Good Morning guys time for a follow up to the C&O and Wanswheel you were absolutely right about that being one of the Turbines that were built for the CHESSIE.

CHESAPEAKE
&
OHIO
Streamlined Observations
by Al

The Chesapeake & Ohio owned a total of fourteen lightweight streamlined Observations. Six were built by Budd and delivered in August 1948 for assignment to the three consists of the CHESSIE. The remaining eight were delivered by Pullman Standard in August 1950 for assignment to the SPORTSMAN, FFV, and GEORGE WASHINGTON.
The six built for the stillborn CHESSIE were three blunt ended cars to be operated mid train between Cincinnati and Charlottesville, at which point they became the Observation on the rear for the Newport News section of the CHESSIE. The Swallow tailed Observations would have operated on the rear of the CHESSIE for the entire distance between Washington, D.C. and Cincinnati. The three Blunt ended observations 1920 - 1922 were equipped with a Kitchen Pantry 5 seat Lunch Counter 32 seat Dining Room and a 10 seat Lounge in the Observation end.
The other three observations with the swallow tail end were also dome observations. These cars 1875-1877 had 1 20 Revenue seat Coach section 24 non-revenue seats in the dome and a 16 seat lounge in the Observation end. The bathrooms and Buffet were located beneath the dome.
The C&O retained the 1920 - 1922 for assignment to the PERE MARQUETTE services operating between Chicago and Detroit as well as Detroit and Grand Rapids, and all three went to Amtrak in 1971. The other three 1875-1877 after operating in PERE MARQUETTE service for a year were sold to the D&RGW for further service where they were numbered 1248 - 1250 and operated in ROYAL GORGE service. They were fitted with a diaphragm adapter on their Observation end and were often used mid train at least between Colorado Springs and Denver with the DENVER ZEPHYR Colorado Springs cars on the rear after 1956.

20 REVENUE SEAT COACH 24 SEAT DOME 16 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (Swallow-Tailed) Budd Company August 1948 (Built for CHESSIES assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)

1875-1877

KITCHEN-PANTRY 5 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER 32 SEAT DINING 10 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (Blunt) Budd Company August 1948 (Built for CHESSIE assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)

1920-1922

The final eight lightweight streamlined observations came from Pullman Standard and these blunt ended observations were probably the finest looking blunt ended Observations ever built by Pullman Standard. These 5 Double Bedroom Buffet 24 seat Lounge Observations were equipped with diaphragms. As previously mentioned the cars were intended for the FFV, SPORTSMAN and GEORGE WASHINGTON. Only the GEORGE WASHINGTON of the three required little switching in route so only the GEORGE WASHINGTON was assigned these Observations. The C&O sold four of the Sleeper Lounge Observations to the B&O two in February 1951; these were C&O 2501 SHENANDOAH CLUB and C&O 2505 OHIO RIVER CLUB. Both were renumbered and repainted for B&O service becoming 7502 DANA and 7503 METCALF and were assigned to the AMBASSADOR. The AMBASSADOR was the overnight train of the B&O between Detroit and Baltimore.
In March two more of these Observations were transferred to B&O ownership these were C&O 2502 TIDEWATER CLUB and C&O 2507 WOLVERINE CLUB, they became B&O 7500 NAPPANEE and 7501 WAWASEE and were assigned to the CAPITOL LIMITED.
Of the remaining four C&O Sleeper Lounge Observations the C&O shops rebuilt 2504 NEW RIVER CLUB into a business car and numbered the car 29 it was not assigned a name. The 29 was assigned to C&O Chairman Robert R. Young.
He other three C&O Sleeper Lounge Observations 2500 BLUE RIDGE CLUB, 2503 ALLEGHENY CLUB and 2506 BLUEGRASS CLUB were assigned to the GEORGE WASHINGTON between Washington and Cincinnati.
In 1961 all three cars were shopped and reconstructed to 6 Crew Dormitory Kitchen 32 seat Dining cars and assigned new numbered 1923, 1924, and 1925 respectively.

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 24 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (Blunt) Pullman Standard August 1950 Plan: 4165 Lot: 6893 (Built for and assigned to C&O GEORGE WASHINGTON)

2500 BLUE RIDGE CLUB

2501 SHENANDOAH CLUB

2502 TIDEWATER CLUB

2503 ALLEGHENY CLUB

2504 NEW RIVER CLUB

2505 OHIO RIVER CLUB

2506 BLUEGRASS CLUB

2507 WOLVERINE CLUB

TTFN Al

[wanswheel]

Good morning Cindy, we understand you're all Tom's, he's often told us. Suspension of disbelief doesn't come easy. How about a stack of pancakes, with steam? Lotsa steam for today's theme.

Rob, your ability to identify the planes in the photos is impressive. You do know your motors.

Al, this first link is to a photograph of one of the locomotives you referred to I think.
http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_022_c&o_steam_turbine_electric_streamliner_1947.jpg

C & O Map
http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_015_c&o_route_map.jpg

The George Washington
http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_025_c&o_george_washington_cincinnati_oh_1965.jpg

Sciotoville Bridge designed by Gustav Lindenthal (1850-1935), who also designed the Hell Gate Bridge and Simon & Garfunkel's groovy 59th Street Bridge
http://www.davidplowden.com/photographs/Bridges/image/29DPBridges.jpg

Bridge construction phase
http://www.east.k12.oh.us/WebPages/04_05/Pictures_TD/Building%20C%20&%20O%20Bridge%20at%20Sciotoville%20circa%201915-1916.jpg

Same bridge in color
http://www.kentuckyroads.com/images/ohio_river/360-sciotoville-bridge-at-twilight-sciotodale-oh-05-03-02-l.jpg

From the Denver library's Otto Perry collection. He was not a professional photographer, rather a well travelled railfan.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002944.jpg Train #6, Fast Flying Virginian. Photographed: at Montgomery, W. Va. station, June 27, 1950.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002941.jpg Train #3, Fast Flying Virginian. Photographed: approaching [as it arrives at] Charleston, W. Va., June 26, 1951.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002940.jpg Train #104, passenger. Photographed: East of Deepwater [i.e. coming into Kanawha Falls], W. Va., June 27, 1950.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002974.jpg Gas-electric motor car 9054. Photographed: at Clifton Forge, Va., August 4, 1936. Date 1936.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002950.jpg Train #16, passenger; 3 cars, 30 MPH. Photographed: at Montgomery [i.e. Mount Carbon], W. Va., June 26, 1951.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002951.jpg Train #2, The George Washington. Photographed: at the Cincinnati, Ohio station, July 21, 1940.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002949.jpg Train #1, The George Washington. Photographed: leaving Washington D.C., August 3, 1939.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002954.jpg Train #4, The Sportsman. Photographed: in Washington D.C., July 22, 1940.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002963.jpg 2-6-6-6 Freight, eastbound; 48 cars. Photographed: east of Montgomery [i.e. Mount Carbon], W. Va., June 26, 1951.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002959.jpg Freight, eastbound; 93 cars, 30 MPH. Photographed: near Montgomery [i.e. Mount Carbon], W. Va., June 26, 1951.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002926.jpg 2-6-6-6 at Hinton, W. Va., July 10, 1953.

http://photoswest.org/photos/00002876/00002917.jpg Handley, W. Va., June 26, 1951

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Leon and the rest of the gang. With the boss away we should be able to get away with just about anything. Time for a Coffee and a Crumpet from the Mentor Village Bakery.

In keeping with today's theme the C&O i submit my first post for the day.

CHESAPEAKE
&
OHIO

PERE
MARQUETTE
Streamlined Coaches
by Al

The C&O for its size would order one of the largest postwar fleets of lightweight streamlined cars ever placed with Pullman Standard. Unfortunately it was more cars than the C&O could possibly use for their passenger services. Many of the cars from this order were canceled before metal was cut for their construction. Others were sold directly to other railroads such as the D&RGW, IC, and B&O. A further group of cars would be sold by the C&O after Pullman Standard delivery some having never operated in C&O service. The C&O would still end up with one of the most modern passenger fleets of any eastern railroad. For coach passengers the C&O would introduce some of the most innovative new coaches of any railroad.
The first of the C&O postwar streamlined trains to enter service was the two consists of the PERE MARQUETTES inaugurated August 10, 1946. These two Pullman Standard built seven car streamliners would enter service between Detroit and Grand Rapids, Michigan scheduled for three round trip daily. The Pere Marquette Railway was owned by the C&O but operated at that time under its original name. In 1947 the Pere Marquette would become the Northern lines of the C&O. The trip between Detroit and Grand Rapids was 152 miles in each direction with each train operating 456 miles daily. Each of the seven car streamlined trains provided revenue seating for 220 passengers. The trains were painted Enchantment Blue Roofs, Car Ends, Window Bands and Trucks with a Venetian Yellow Letter Board and fluted stainless steel panels on the car sides below the windows. The E7A units were painted to match minus the fluted stainless steel panels. The two head end cars and diesel unit were the only cars turned at terminals. The remaining five cars like the prewar Reading CRUSADER consisted of a pair of Coach Observations with Blunt ends a pair of Coaches and a 44 seat Dining car in the center. The trains were train lined with a Baggage 15’ Railway Post Office Car, Baggage Car, Coach Observation, Coach, Dining Car, Coach, and Coach Observation. The seats in the Coaches and Coach Observations were simply reversed at terminals. The consists were replaced by newer cars in 1950 and many of these original PERE MARQUETTE cars were sold to other roads.

101 EMD E7A 2,000 hp Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

51 Baggage Car

61 Baggage 15’ Railway Post Office Car

21 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

30 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

11 44 seat Dining Car

31 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

23 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

SECOND CONSIST

102 EMD E7A 2,000 hp Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

50 Baggage 15’ Railway Post Office Car

60 Baggage Car

20 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

30 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

10 44 seat Dining Car

32 54 Revenue seat Coach with 10 seat Smoking Lounge

22 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation

BAGGAGE 15’ RAILWAY POST OFFICE CARS Pullman Standard July, 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
50 – 51

BAGGAGE CARS Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
60 – 61

56 REVENUE SEAT COACH OBSERVATIONS WITH 10 SEAT LOUNGE Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
20 – 23

54 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH 10 SEAT SMOKING LOUNGE Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
30 – 33

44 SEAT DINING CARS Pullman Standard July 1946 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTES)
10 – 11

All eight of the above cars with revenue seating 20-23, 30-33 were sold to the C&EI in 1950 replaced by newer C&O cars delivered that same year. The C&O added another pair of PERE MARQUETTES between Chicago and Grand Rapids in 1950 with connecting service from Holland and Muskegon provided in each direction. The Coaches came from the large Pullman Standard order of 1950 numbered 1610 - 1668. A single Baggage 32 Revenue seat Coach 1403 was also assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service in 1950. A similar car 1402 was assigned to the other PERE MARQUETTE train set in 1950; this car was a Baggage 28 revenue seat Coach Combination built by Budd for the stillborn CHESSIE of 1948. Two 54 revenue seat Coaches with 9 seat lounges 134 and 135 were delivered by Pullman Standard in 1950 for PERE MARQUETTE service. The four 30 revenue seat Parlor cars built for PERE MARQUETTE service in 1950 were 1800 TORCH LAKE, 1801 BURT LAKE, 1802 CHARLEVOIS LAKE and 1803 ELK LAKE. The final car built specifically for PERE MARQUETTE service in 1950 was Lunch Counter Tavern Lounge Car 1920 CHESSIE CLUB.

BAGGAGE 28 REVENUE SEAT COACH COMBINATION CAR Budd Company July 1948 (Built for CHESSIE assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1402

BAGGAGE 32 REVENUE SEAT COACH COMBINATION CAR Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1403

54 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH 9 SEAT SMOKING LOUNGE Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
134 – 135

8 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER BUFFET 30 SEAT LOUNGE CAR Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1903 CHESSIE CLUB

30 REVENUE SEAT PARLOR CARS Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to PERE MARQUETTE service)
1800 TORCH LAKE
1801 BURT LAKE
1802 CHARLEVOIS LAKE
1803 ELK LAKE

The Chesapeake & Ohio received three consists of lightweight streamlined cars in August 1948 from the Budd Company to inaugurate a new daytime streamlined train service between Washington, DC and Cincinnati, Ohio powered by coal fired streamlined Turbine locomotives. A connecting through car service would be operated between Newport News and Charlottesville powered by streamlined stainless steel shrouded Hudson’s. The new deluxe all coach streamliner named the CHESSIE was scheduled to enter service in September, 1948 but after one delay or postponement after another the CHESSIE was quietly dropped having never entered service. The CHESSIE would have been one of the most innovative if not the most innovative coach streamliners ever built with features never found on any other coach streamliner in America. The three train sets featured Coaches with revenue seating for 36 with an 8 seat smoking lounge numbered 1500-1511 and 1600-1609 as the standards for the trains with all other CHESSIE cars specialty cars except for the 1400 – 1402 Baggage 28 revenue seat Coach combination cars. The 1700-1702 were Family Coaches with revenue seats for 32, a diaper changing room, Children’s Playroom, Children’s Theater, and Buffet. The 1850-1852 series cars featured 5 Roomettes, 1 Single Bedroom, 3 drawing Rooms and 24 non revenue seats in the dome with all space sold for daytime use only. The 1875 – 1877 series cars were 20 revenue seat Coaches with a snack bar beneath the 20 non revenue seat Dome Observations. Car numbers 1900 – 1902 were 8 seat Lunch Counter Buffet 38 seat lounge Cars. Car numbers 1920 – 1922 featured 5 seat Lunch Counter 32 seat Dining and 10 seat Lounge Observation with Blunt Observation end and diaphragm installed. Cars 1940 – 1942 featured a Crew Dayroom 12 seat Lunch Counter and Kitchen, these cars were paired with 60 seat Dining Room Theater cars 1970 – 1972. If the CHESSIES had entered service several of the 36 revenue seat coaches and the 1920 – 1922 series Lunch Counter Dining Room Lounge Observations would have operated as through Newport News – Cincinnati cars. The 46 cars constructed by Budd for the CHESSIE sat idle while the C&O made up their mind what to do with them. Eventually the 20-revenue seat Coach 24 non-revenue seat dome Observations 1875 - 1877 would be assigned temporarily to PERE MARQUETTE service before being sold to the D&RGW in September 1948. The D&RGW after repainting these cars and installing adapters for mid train use assigned the cars to the ROYAL GORGE. The 22 coaches in the 1500-1511 series and 1600-1609 series were sold six to the ACL in October 1950, eight to the SAL in August 1950, and the remaining eight were sold overseas and shipped to Argentina. Two of the 1900 – 1902 series Tavern Lounge cars 1900 and 1901 were also sold and shipped to Argentina, while 1902 was retained by the C&O and rebuilt into Business car 19 in 1950. The three twin unit dining sets were 1940- 1942 and 1970- 1972 series were all sold to the ACL in December 1950. The three sleeper Domes 1850 – 1852 were sold to the B&O in December, 1950 and assigned to the CAPITOL LIMITED and SHENANDOAH between Washington and Chicago. The three Family Coaches 1700 – 1702 were sold to the C&EI in March 1951 the last of the former CHESSIE cars sold.

BAGGAGE 28 REVENUE SEAT COACH COMBINATIONS Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1400– 1402

36 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH 8 SEAT SMOKING LOUNGES Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

Vestibule Aft
1500 – 1511

Vestibule Forward
1600 – 1609

32 REVENUE SEAT FAMILY COACHES WITH CHILDREN’S PLAYROOM THEATER DIAPER CHANGING ROOM Budd Company August, 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1700 – 1702

24 SEAT DOME 3 DRAWING ROOM 5 ROOMETTE 1 SINGLE BEDROOM PRIVATE ROOM CARS Budd Company August, 1948 Plan: 9524 Lot: 9669 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1850 – 1852

24 SEAT DOME 20 REVENUE SEAT COACH 16 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (Tapered) Budd Company August, 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1875 – 1877

8 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER BUFFET 38 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1900 – 1902

KITCHEN PANTRY 5 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER 32 SEAT DINING 10 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (Blunt) Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1920 – 1922

CREW DAYROOM 8 SEAT LUNCH COUNTER KITCHEN CARS ½ of TWIN UNIT Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1940 – 1942

60 SEAT DINING ROOM THEATER CARS ½ of TWIN UNIT Budd Company August 1948 (Built for stillborn CHESSIE)

1970 – 1972

The streamlined coaches to modernize the remaining C&O passenger services arrived in 1950 from Pullman Standard several of these cars were listed previously for the PERE MARQUETTE services (1403, 1800 – 1803, and 1903). The largest part of the order was for eighty 52 revenue seat coaches of whom fifty-nine were actually delivered to the C&O numbered 1610 – 1668. These cars were built with two compartments seating 26 with a serpentine open divider between the compartments. The reason given for this design was it broke up the tube like shape of the coach seating area. These cars actually seemed more roomy than most with this center divider although in actual fact it was only an illusion. These cars were assigned to the SPORTSMAN, PERE MARQUETTES, GEORGE WASHINGTON, and FFV. Many secondary trains were also equipped with these coaches.

52 REVENUE SEAT COACHES Pullman Standard 1950 (Built for and assigned to General Service)
1610 – 1668

Two of the above cars 1610 and 1611 were remodeled with a Kitchen occupying the space of the former men’s room at one end and the 26 coach seats at that same end were replaced by a 22 seat Dining room. At the other end of the car in the space where the large women’s restroom was formerly located smaller men and Ladies Rest rooms were installed and the 26 revenue seat coach compartment remained.

TTFN Al.

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!
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Now arriving on track #1 …..
Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Two


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Chesapeake and Ohio Railway

Locale: District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wisconsin

Reporting marks: CO

Dates of operation: 1869 – 1972

Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)

Headquarters: Cleveland, Ohio

The Chesapeake and Ohio Railway (C&O) was a Class I railroad formed in 1869 in Virginia from many smaller railroads begun in the 19th century. Tapping the coal reserves of West Virginia, it formed the basis for the City of Newport News and the coal piers on Hampton Roads, and forged a rail link to the midwest, eventually reaching Columbus, Cincinnati, and Toledo in Ohio and Chicago, Illinois.

Headquartered in Cleveland, Ohio, USA, in 1972, it became part of the Chessie System, along with the Baltimore and Ohio and Western Maryland Railway. In 1980, the Chessie system combined with Seaboard Coast Line Industries to form CSX Corporation, which by 1987 had merged all its railroad subsidiaries into CSX Transportation, one of seven Class I railroads operating in North America at the beginning of the 21st century.

The city of Huntington, West Virginia is named for one of its early leaders, Collis P. Huntington.


Early history, Crozet, and crossing the Blue Ridge Mountains

The Chesapeake & Ohio Railway traces its origin to the Louisa Railroad of Louisa County, Virginia, begun in 1836, and the James River & Kanawha Canal Company, also begun in Virginia in 1785. The C&O of the 1950s and 1960s at its peak before the first modern merger, was the product of about 150 smaller lines that had been incorporated into the system over time.

By 1850 the Louisa Railroad had been built east to Richmond and west to Charlottesville, and in keeping with its new and larger vision, was renamed the Virginia Central Railroad. The Commonwealth of Virginia, always keen to help with "internal improvements" not only owned a portion of Virginia Central stock, but incorporated and financed the Blue Ridge Railroad to accompli***he hard and expensive task of crossing the first mountain barrier to the west. Under the leadership of the great early civil engineer Claudius Crozet, the Blue Ridge RR built over the mountains, using four tunnels, including the 4,263-foot Blue Ridge Tunnel at the top of the pass, then one of the longest tunnels in the world.

While the Blue Ridge was being breached, Virginia Central was building westward from the west foot of the mountains, across the Great Valley of Virginia (The Shenandoah Valley), and the Shenandoah range (Great North Mountain), reaching a point known as Jackson's River Station, at the foot of the Alleghany Mountains (note that in Virginia Alleghany is spelled with an "a"), in 1856. This is the site that would be called Clifton Forge later.

To finish its line across the mountainous territory of the Alleghany Plateau (known in old Virginia as the "Transmountaine"), the Commonwealth again chartered a state-subsidized railroad called the Covington and Ohio Railroad. This company completed important grading work on the Alleghany grade and did considerable work on numerous tunnels over the mountains and in the west. It also did a good deal of roadway work around Charleston on the Kanawha River. Then the American Civil War intervened, and work was stopped on the westward expansion.

C & O predecessors during the Civil War

During the Civil War the Virginia Central Railroad was one of the Confederacy's most important lines, carrying food from the Shenandoah region to Richmond, and ferrying troops and supplies back and forth as the campaigns surrounded its tracks frequently. It had an important connection with the Orange and Alexandria Railroad at Gordonsville, Virginia. On more than one occasion, the Virginia Central was used in actual tactical operations, transporting troops directly to the battlefield. But, it was a prime target for Federal armies, and by the end of the war had only about five miles of track still in operation, and $40 in gold in its treasury.

Ellis P. Huntington links the tidewater of Virginia with the Ohio Valley

Following the war, Virginia Central officials, led by company president Williams Carter Wickham, realized that they would have to get capital to rebuild from outside the economically devastated South, and attempted to attract British interests, without success. Finally, they succeeded in getting Collis P. Huntington of New York, interested in the line. He is, of course, the same Huntington that was one of the "Big Four" involved in building the Central Pacific portion of the Transcontinental Railroad, which was at this time just reaching completion. Huntington had a vision of a true transcontinental that would go from sea to sea under one operating management, and decided that the Virginia Central might be the eastern link to this system.

Huntington supplied the Virginians with the money needed to complete the line to the Ohio River, through what was now the new state of West Virginia. The old Covington & Ohio's properties were conveyed to them [Note: the name was Railroad at this time ... it will be changed later to Railway] in keeping with its new mission of linking the Tidewater coast of Virginia with the "Western Waters." this was the old dream of the "Great Connection" which had been current in Virginia since Colonial times.

On July 1, 1867 the C&O was completed nine miles from Jackson's River Station to the town of Covington, seat of Alleghany County, Virginia. By 1869, it had crossed Alleghany Mountain, using much of the tunneling and roadway work done by the Covington & Ohio before the war, and was running to the great mineral springs resort at White Sulphur Springs, now in Greenbrier County, West Virginia. Here, stagecoach connections were made for Charleston and the navigation on the Kanawha River (and thus water transportation on the whole Ohio/Mississippi system).

During 1869-1873 the hard work of building through West Virginia was done with large crews working from the new city of Huntington on the Ohio River and White Sulphur (much as the UP and CP had done in the transcontinental work), and the line was completed at Hawk's Nest, West Virginia on January 28, 1873. The West Virginia stretch of the C & O was the site of the legendary competition between John Henry and a steam-powered machine; the competition is said to have taken place in a tunnel south of Talcott, West Virginia near the Greenbrier River.

Typical of the men who built the C & O during this period was William N. Page, a civil engineer who had attended special courses in engineering at the University of Virginia before he went to work on the railroad. Page directed the location and construction of the New River Canyon Bridge in 1871 and 1872, and of the Mill Creek Canyon bridge in 1874. In 1875 and 1876, he led the surveying party charged with mapping out the route of the double-track railway to extend between Hampton Roads and the Ohio River via the New River and Kanawha Valleys of West Virginia. Like many men who came to West Virginia with the railroad, Page was struck with both the beauty and potential of the natural resources and is considered one of the more energetic and successful men who helped develop West Virginia's rich bituminous coal fields in the late 19th and early 20th century. Page settled in the tiny mountain hamlet of Ansted, West Virginia, a town located in Fayette County near Hawk's Nest, on high bluffs overlooking the New River far below, where the C&O occupied both sides of the narrow valley.

Collis Huntington intended to connect the C&O with his western and mid-western holdings, but had much other railroad construction to finance and he stopped the line at the Ohio and over the next few years did little to improve its rough construction or develop traffic. The only connection to the West was by packet boats operating on the Ohio River. Because the great mineral resources of the region hadn't been fully realized yet, the C&O suffered through the bad times brought on by the financial panic (Depression) of 1873, and went into receivership in 1878. When reorganized it was renamed The Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company.

West Virginia coal development and Newport News piers

Shortly after the end of the Civil War, Collis P. Huntington and his associates began buying up land in Warwick County, Virginia. During the ten years from 1878 to 1888, C&O's coal resources began to be developed and shipped eastward. In 1881 the Peninsula Subdivision was completed from Richmond to the new city of Newport News, located on Hampton Roads, the East's largest ice-free port. Transportation of coal to Newport News where it was loaded on coast-wise shipping and transported to the Northeast became a staple of the C&O's business at this time.

Morgan and Vanderbilt take control

In 1888 Huntington lost control of the C&O in a reorganization without foreclosure that saw his majority interest lost to the interests of J.P. Morgan and William K. Vanderbilt. In those days before US anti-trust laws were created, both many smaller railroads which appeared to be in competition with each other were essentially under common control. Even the leaders of Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR) and New York Central Railroad (NYC) had secretly entered into a "community of interests" pact.

Morgan and Vanderbilt had Melville E. Ingalls installed as President. Ingalls was, at the time, also President of the Vanderbilt's Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago and St. Louis Railroad (The "Big Four System"), and held both presidencies concurrently for the next decade. Ingalls installed George W. Stevens as general manager and effective head of the C&O.

The C&O gains a water level route along the James River across Virginia

In 1889 the Richmond and Allegheny Railroad company, which had been built along the tow-path of the defunct James River and Kanawha Canal, was merged into the C&O, giving it a down grade "water level" line from Clifton Forge to Richmond, avoiding the heavy grades of North Mountain and the Blue Ridge on the original Virginia Central route. This "James River Line" would be the principal artery of eastbound coal transportation down to the present day.

Ingalls and Stevens completely rebuilt the C&O to "modern" standards with ballasted roadbed, enlarged and lined tunnels, steel bridges, and heavier steel rails, as well as new, larger, cars and locomotives.

In 1888, the C&O built the Cincinnati Division, from Huntington, West Virginia down the south bank of the Ohio River in Kentucky and across the river at Cincinnati, connecting with the "Big Four" and other Midwestern Railroads.

From 1900 to 1920 most of the C&O's lines tapping the rich bituminous coal fields of southern West Virginia and eastern Kentucky were built, and the C&O as it was known throughout the rest of the 20th Century was essentially in place.

In 1910 C&O merged the Chicago, Cincinnati & Louisville Railroad into its system. This line had been built diagonally across the state of Indiana from Cincinnati to Hammond in the preceding decade. This gave the C&O a direct line from Cincinnati to the great railroad hub of Chicago.

Also in 1910, C&O interests bought control of the Kanawha and Michigan (K&M) and Hocking Valley (HV) lines in Ohio, with a view to connecting with the Great Lakes through Columbus. Eventually anti-trust laws forced C&O to abandon its K&M interests, but it was allowed to retain the Hocking Valley, which operated about 350 miles in Ohio, including a direct line from Columbus to the port of Toledo, and numerous branches southeast of Columbus in the Hocking Coal Fields. But there was no direct connection with the C&O's mainline, now hauling previously undreamed-of quantities of coal. To get its coal up to Toledo and into Great Lakes shipping, C&O contracted with its rival Norfolk & Western to carry trains from Kenova,. W. Va. to Columbus. N&W, however, limited this business and the arrangement was never satisfactory.

C&O gained access to the Hocking Valley by building a new line directly from a point a few miles from its huge and growing terminal at Russell, Ky., to Columbus between 1917 and 1926. It crossed the Ohio River at Limeville, Ky. (Sciotoville, Ohio), on the great Limeville or Sciotoville bridge which remains today the mightiest bridge ever built from point of view of its load capacity. It was truly a monument to engineering, but seldom commented on outside of engineering circles because of its relatively remote location.

With the connection at Columbus complete, C&O soon was sending more of its high quality metallurgical and steam coal west than east, and in 1930 it merged the Hocking Valley into its system.

Van Sweringen era - Pere Marquette Railroad

The next great change for C&O came in 1923 when the great Cleveland financiers, the Van Sweringen brothers (O. P. and M. J. Van Sweringen), bought a controlling interest in the line as part of their expansion of the Nickel Plate Road (NKP) system. Eventually they controlled the NKP, C&O, Pere Marquette Railroad (in Michigan and Ontario), and Erie railroads. They managed to control this huge (for the time) system by a maze of holding companies and interlocking directorships. This house of cards tumbled when the Great Depression began and the Van Sweringen companies collapsed. But the C&O was a strong line and despite the fact that in the early 1930s over 50% of American railroads went into receivership, it not only avoided bankruptcy, but took the occasion of cheap labor and materials to again completely rebuild itself.

During the early 1930s when it seemed the whole country was retrenching, C&O was boring new tunnels, adding double track, rebuilding bridges, upgrading the weight of its rail, and rebuilding its roadbed, all with money from its principal commodity of haulage: Coal. Even in the hard years of the Great Depression, coal was something that had to be used everywhere, and C&O was sitting astride the best bituminous seams in the country.

Because of this great upgrading and building program, C&O was in prime condition to carry the monumental loads needed during World War II. During the War it transported men and material in unimagined quantities as the U. S. used the Hampton Roads Port of Embarkation as a principal departure point for the European Theater. The invasion of North Africa was loaded here. Of course coal was needed in ever increasing quantities by war industries, and C&O was ready with a powerful, well organized, well maintained railway powered by the largest and most modern locomotives.

Post World War II - Robert R. Young

By the end of the World War II, C&O was poised to help America during its great growth during the decades following, and at mid-century was truly a line of national importance. It became more so, at least in the public eye through Robert Ralph Young, its mercurial Chairman, and his Alleghany Corporation.

Young got control of the C&O through the remnants of the Van Sweringen companies, in 1942, and for the next decade he became "the gadfly of the rails," as he challenged old methods of financing and operating railroads, and inaugurated many forward looking advances in technology that have ramifications to the present. He changed the C&O's herald (logo) to "C&O for Progress" to embody his ideas that C&O would lead the industry to a new day. He installed a well-staffed research and development department that came up with ideas for passenger service that are thought to be futuristic even now, and for freight service that would challenge the growth of trucking. Young eventually gave up his C&O position to become Chairman of the New York Central before his suicide in 1958.

During the Young era and following, C&O was headed by Walter J. Tuohy, under whose control the "For Progress" theme continued, though in a more muted way after the departure of Young. During this time, C&O installed the first large computer system in railroading, developed larger and better freight cars of all types, switched (reluctantly) from steam to diesel motive power, and diversified its traffic, which had already occurred in 1947 when it merged into the system the old Pere Marquette Railroad (PM) of Michigan and Ontario, Canada, which had been controlled by the C&O since Van Sweringen days. The PM's huge automotive industry traffic, taking raw materials in and finished vehicle out, gave C&O some protection from the swings in the coal trade, putting merchandise traffic at 50% of the company's haulage.

Chessie System, CSX

C&O continued to be one of the more profitable and financially sound railways in the United States, and in 1963, under the guidance of Cyrus S. Eaton, helped start the modern merger era by "affiliating" with the ancient modern of railroads, the hoary Baltimore & Ohio. Avoiding a mistake that would become endemic to later mergers among other lines, a gradual amalgamation of the two lines' services, personnel, motive power and rolling stock, and facilities built a new and stronger system, which was ready for a new name in 1972. Under the leadership of the visionary Hays T. Watkins Jr., the C&O, B&O and Western Maryland Railway became Chessie System, taking on the name officially that had been used colloquially for so long for the C&O, after the mascot kitten used in ads since 1934.

Under Watkins' careful and visionary leadership, Chessie System then merged with Seaboard System Railroad (itself a combination of great railroads of the Southeast including Seaboard Air Line, Atlantic Coast Line, Louisville & Nashville Railroad, Clinchfield Railroad and others), to form a new mega-railroad: CSX Transportation (CSX).

Today, CSX, after acquiring 42% of Conrail in 1999, is one of four major railroad systems left in the country, and still an innovative leader, true to its roots in Robert Young at "For Progress," the Van Sweringens and their quest for efficiency and standardization, to George Stevens and his dedication to operation efficiency and safety awareness, back to Collis P. Huntington and his dreams of a transportation empire, and even back to those old, long forgotten Virginians who started it all to carry their farm produce to market in 1830.


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[:I] One afternoon this guy drives down a highway to visit a nearby lake and relax. On his way to the lake one guy dressed from head to toe in red standing on the side of the highway gestures him to stop. Our guy rolls down the window. "How can I help you?"
"I am the red *** of the asphalt, you got something to eat?"
With a smile on his face he hands one of his sandwiches to the red dressed guy and drives away. Not even five minutes later he comes across another guy. This time the guy is dressed fully in yellow, standing on the side and waving him to stop. A bit irritated our guy stops, cranks down the window. "What can I do for you?"
"I am the yellow *** of the asphalt, you got something to drink?"
Hardly managing to smile this time he hands to the guy a can of soda and then stomps on the pedal and takes off again. In order to make it to the lakeside before sunset he decides to go faster and not to stop no matter what. To his frustration he sees another guy on the side of the road, dressed all in blue, making a hand signal to stop him. Not quite willing our guy decides to stop a last time. He rolls his window down and yells to the guy, "I know, you're the blue *** of the asphalt. Now just what the hell do you want?"
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Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 29 May 2006, 01:31:18 (344) Early, early AM Inclusive Post

(2) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 29 May 2006, 02:16:30 (344) Descriptions for my Pix!

(3) jlampke John Posted: 29 May 2006, 03:40:52 (344) Early, early AM visit & comments!

(4) wanswheel Mike Posted: 29 May 2006, 05:08:25 (344) Inclusive Post!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 May 2006, 07:04:42 (344) Memorial Day Info & 9-Post Summary

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 May 2006, 08:20:35 (344) Acknowledgments & Comments

(7) passengerfan Al Posted: 29 May 2006, 10:00:40 (344) Left Coast report

(8) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 29 May 2006, 11:27:04 (344) Inclusive Post

(9) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 29 May 2006, 12:05:49 (344) more descriptions for my Pix!

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 May 2006, 12:46:37 (344) Acknowledgments & Comments

(11) passengerfan Al Posted: 29 May 2006, 19:45:59 (344) Comments

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 May 2006, 20:50:12 (344) Comments

(13) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 29 May 2006, 22:24:30 (344) Nite Cap!



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[trolleyboy]

Hello Leon a crown I think please. Another hot muggy just plain awfull day today 32C with a humidex reading of 41C [xx(] That's tripple digets folks and it's only the end of may [tdn]. Tom don't sweat the small stuff enjoy your trip and return home sane and energized. I aggree with Al though watch out for da bugs of the season. Black flies and Sqeeters are at an all time high and size in ontario so I can imagine what you may or may not be getting into. As i said those 70 pictures are simply grand [tup] no other way to describe them, I'm a bitted miffed that no one else noticed, hopefully it was just the heat [tdn].

Rob

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Gents!

Just a few reminders:

Cindy will bartend for the day shift and Leon will take the evenings while I'm gone. Boris will tend to the kitchen and get the place started in the early AM . [:O]

I expect to get a Summary and an ENCORE RR from Yesteryear out in the AM . . . . after that, I'm gone. [yeah]

Thanx for the well wishes - Rob 'n Al [tup]

Leon the Night Man now has the bar!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Luck Tomorrow Tom and Bon Voyage to you and the better half.

Like I said if I was a young man I would certainly be a resident of our largest State. Having driven trruck to and from Alaska for four years steady I miss it.

Just watch out for the mosquitoes and black flies. The Air Force at Fairbanks swear the mosquitos are so large they ask for clearance to land. But the Air Force always did exagerate a little. Personally always had more trouble with the black flies. They take a hunk of flesh with every bite.

TTFN Al

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Many THANX Rob for the Pix descriptions - even if no one ever reads them, other than me, KNOW they are much appreciated as are your comments regarding my Pix! [tup] I look forward to the Rendezvous Pix from you and let's plan to "swap" the more personal Pix that do not get Posted on line.

Once again the day began on a "downer," when one of our very own failed to make mention of the Pix that were Posted yesterday.

Hey - I don't need to be the recipient of cheerleading efforts - but for heaven's sake - 70 Pix along with the Emporium "stuff" and the Sunday Index - zip, zero, zilch - sure makes a guy feel like: what's the use[?]

Yesterday was one of the most sour I've experienced in terms of absolutely nothing being returned - not one "browser" said a thing (and there were 2 of our "Permanent Stools" peeking in . . . ) and of course, no one else participating.

Saturday was another gross disappointment - so it's time for me to take my leave. This nearly 14 months of effort needs a rest. Doubt if very many will notice.

Gotta get back to ensuring that the "last minute details," don't get left for the last minute!

Later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Okay gents a last round of something speacial for the gang and a few more photo tags for this page 344's fine CWH shots from captain Tom.[tup]x5 for the photo's sir, they really area top notch bunch. I'll have mine back tomorrow so I'll share them next sunday, then replay them for you once you have returned from your northern sojourne [tup]

#22,23,25&26. A DC3 Dakota from Canada's 10 group air transport squadron. This plane was built in 1939 and still flies today. it has the most confirmed airtime on it's airframe of any Dakota left in flying shape today, well over 800,000 hours ( excess of 12 million miles flown ) This plane is a true WW2 vet, as it was based in the Pacific with 10 group on the troop resupply missions in Southeast asia, including some time in the D-day paratroop drops in 1944 as it's only wartime european theater deployment.

#24 A Grumman Tracker ASW aircraft that served aboard HMCS Bonaventure from 1964-71 then was landbased at CFB Summerside PEI 1979-1990 when it and it's sisters were retired.

#27 Canadair CT144 Tutur jet fighter trainer. This aircraft serveed as the primary jet fighter trainer for the RCAF from 1962-2003 when it was replaced by the British Aerospace hawk trainer. The only flyable tuturs today are those used by the RCAF flight air demonstration team known as the Snowbirds .

#28 an early search and recue helicopter a Siskorsky Hoverfly early 50
s vintage.

#29 a 1944 Chev truck as used by RCAF bomber squadrons in Great Britain as crew shuttles during WW2. this truck is driven in rememberance day parades etc each year.

#34-36 The piece de la resisiatnce B1 lancaster FM213, built in 1944 by Victory aircraft ( (later Avro Canada builders of the CF100 Canuk jet interceptor and the ill fated CF105 Arrow)This aircraft was completed too late for WW2 service but was kept on strength and usedas a maritime reconasence and ASW plateform on the east coast from 1947-66 when it and it's Lancaster sisters were replaced by P3 Orions. FM213 was retired and given to the Royal candian Legion branch in Godderich ontario and was pilon mounted,however unlike other pylon mounted planes which have their main spar cut to mount a simgle pylon this aircraft was mounted on three pylones at its "jack" points and no airframe damage occured which is why it was aquired and made flyable again ( 20 year restoration ) This is one of only 2 left flyable in the wrld, the other is the City of Lincoln which is owned and operated by the RAF in their battle of Brittain Memorial flight squadron. The plane is painted as 419 moose squadron bomber VRA the aircraft that P/O ( pilot officer ) Andrew Mynarski won his VC in in 1944 over Holland. I will do his story this evening and replay it again on rememberancce day in November.


Rob

[trolleyboy]

Good morning everyone. Thought I would drop by to see everyone B$ I head on out to work for the bulk of the day.I do hope everyone spends a quiet and reflective memorial day,I know that we do for rememberance day on the 11th of november. Heather and I take a service in eother at the cemotaph or at the Canadian Warplane herritage musuem. They put on a wonderfull cerimoney topped off with the Lancaster, the Mitchell and the Canso ( PBY5 ) and Dakota doing a memorial flypast. Always packed with vets and their families.

Tom happy rails tomorrow, not to worry we will keep the homefores burning notwithstaanding yesterdays not so wonderfull turnout.The rest of the picture's I'll put descriptions up for will be out in a moment.

Mike Great photo url for that dakota [tup] #8 is run at the sedate musuem speed limit off 20mph ( it's only a mile and a quarter run down the mainline as 8 does not loop at either end of the line due to her imence weight and overhang ( she's nearlt 50t ) Likley 38 fully openned out now wouldn't do more than 40mph, this is because she was built for highspeed 1500v overheand hance the pantagraphs, we stepped her motors and compressors down to the 600v service that we run so she does not get the juice to gallop along at her full speed.

Al a reflective afternoon seems the best for today IMHO.


Rob

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. This being Memorial Day I am sure we all have our thoughts on this special day to so many.

I remember one particular Memorial Day when I was in the Navy we were assigned the honor of laying a wreath that year in Iron Bottom Sound at Guadalcanal. A fleet Chaplain was transferred to our ship a few days brfore we layed the wreath. The service he provided that day left not a dry eye on the ship. We had a few WW II veterans aboard the ship and a number of Korean War vets.
Little did I realize that another war was beginning at that time and we would be fully embroiled in it within months.
I always think about that wreath laying ceremony to this day and wonder if it is still performed today. We were detatched from our squadron for this honor and it is something I will never forget.

I will be spending the day at the park after watching our Memorial Day parade with my step grandson. He is five and I am making a real railfan out of him. Fortunately we can see the trains from the park.

TTFN Al

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Just a few words B4 heading out to take care of the "south forty" - gotta buy a couple of goats! This lawn care stuff is getting to me - especially with temps already at 80 (F) - humidity on the rise - and it's only 8 AM! <ugh> Tomorrow is get-away-day, so today is get-the-chores-done-day, holiday notwithstanding.

So, the 9 Posts from yesterday were all mine - that's a first for Sunday Photo Posting Day! Saturday wasn't much better. So, what do we make of this [?] Whatever you wish. Stepping up to the plate seems more the cliche than not.

Thanx for the descriptions, Rob and sorry about the frustration up there in Brantford . . . . can't 'puter without power and can't 'puter without a reliable machine. Looks like a long year ahead for you. <groan>

I too recall the "true meaning" of this day, Mike and can still "see" the huge U.S. flags being carried in the parades that took place on Memorial Day - a day to honor those who sacrificed their lives for the betterment of all and preservation of our way of life. Times have changed, but for as long as I breathe the air, the meaning wll not.

John Your wish is our command - June 3rd is your B'day and there will NOT be a Bash. LET's NOT FORGET TO WISH our seagoing friend a [bday] ON HIS DAY!

Regarding the GO Transit in Toronto - those Pix were taken during the off-peak times for commuting - 12:15 PM to 1:30 PM - so it shouldn't be suprising to see empty seats. The trains are jammed during rush hours . . .

Gotta go - things to do B4 this day turns into tomorrow . . .

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)

[:I] A man was walking along a beach and came across an old lamp.
He rubbed it and out came a genie. The genie said, 'OK You get 1 wish.' The man said, 'I've always wanted to go to Hawaii but I'm scared to fly and I get seasick, could you build me a bridge to Hawaii?'
The genie laughed and said, 'That's impossible! Think of the logistics of that! How would the supports ever reach the bottom of the Pacific? Think of how much concrete... how much steel! No, think of another wish.'
The man thought of another wish. Finally, he said, 'I've been married and divorced 4 times. My wives always said that I'm insensitive. So, I wi***hat I could understand women... know how they feel inside and what they're thinking when they give me the silent treatment... know why they're crying, know what they really want when they say "nothing"... know how to make them truly happy.'
The genie said, 'You want that bridge two lanes or four?' [:I]


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

NOW SHOWING:

. . . Sunday, May 28th thru June 2nd: Patton (1970) starring: George C. Scott & Karl Malden –and- The Eagle Has Landed (1977) starring Michael Caine, Robert Duvall & Donald Sutherland. SHORT: Uncivil Warriors (1935).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, June 3rd thru June 9th: The Great Escape (1963) starring: Steve McQueen, James Garner & Richard Attenborough –and- The Longest Day (1962) starring: 42 International Stars. SHORT: Pardon My Scotch (1935).

. . . Sunday, June 10th thru June 16th: Major League II (1994) starring: Tom Berenger & Charlie Sheen –and- Mr. Baseball (1992) starring: Tom Selleck, K. Taukura & A. Takanashi. SHORT: Hoi Poloi (1935).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 06:44:32 (343) Sunday’s Info & 20-Post Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 06:45:45 (343) Now Playing & Coming Attractions at the Emporium!

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 07:51:55 (343) 10 Rdvu Pix – Halton County Radial Railway, Pt I

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 10:19:18 (343) 10 Rdvu Pix – Halton County Radial Railway, Pt II

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 11:24:33 (343) 12 Rdvu Pix – Halton County Radial Railway, Pt III

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 12:41:46 (343) 13 Rdvu Pix - Canadian Warplane Heritage museum, Pt I

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 13:51:59 (344) 13 Rdvu Pix – Canadian Warplane Heritage museum, Pt II

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 14:53:50 (344) 12 Rdvu Pix – Canadian Warplane Heritiage museium, Pt III

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 May 2006, 17:03:20 (344) 2006 Sunday Index




That’s it! [tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!




waving flags credit: www.3DFlags.com

[wanswheel]

Good morning Tom and everyone, a round for all who gave their all for the red, white and blue

John, '59 was the very best year for Cadillac tail fins. Late congratulations on Chief Engineer and early happy birthday if you're at sea or something on the 7th?

Rob, the #8 Interurban is photogenic right down to the doorknob, what a beauty! How fast does she get to go?

Tom, I guess you're on your way to Alaska. Have a great time and don't forget to bring a camera. (Right. Like that will ever happen.)

The DC-3 at the museum brought to mind my first flight anywhere ever, in 1966, from Columbia, SC to Washington, D.C., with one stop at Raleigh-Durham. 'Twas a thrill. http://www.carolinasaviation.org/images/Aircraft/DC-3/DC-3-04.jpg

I'm old enough to remember a time when the 30th of May was a major civic event. Always we had a huge parade in town, and it had nothing to do with partying, or fun in the sun. Memorial Day had only one true purpose: to remember and honor the service and sacrifice of our war dead.

http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB152/00041.jpg

[jlampke]

Good morning gents. Actually, it's about 2200 Sunday evening here. I'm now at sea off the coast of Hawaii. I'm the only one in Our Place at the moment. Leon, an Absolute and grapefruit please. Also, how about some change for Herr Wurlitzer? The J. Cash song "One Piece At A Time" would sound good right now.
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First off, and most importantly, a belated Happy Birthday to Dave. Sorry to have missed the bash. I was traveling to Pearl Harbor Saturday. '59 was indeed a good year!!
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Thank you Lars, Tom, Rob, Pete, CM3, & Ted for the congrats on my passing the Chief Engineer’s test. (Hope I didn't miss anyone!)
Tom; I had a couple hours layover at the airport in St. Louis on May 20th. Didn't have any of my "stuff" with me, or I would've called and said hi.
The pictures of the Go Transit passenger cars were interesting. Sadly, what I noticed most were all the empty seats..... I like to think that'll change in time.
Also, the Fallen Flag item on SP was pretty interesting.
Dave; very interesting items coming from you. I especially liked the one about SP's Mission Bay shop at 3rd & Townsend. Also the item on the SP SD's was interesting, as was the one about the Amtrak wreck.
Al; I liked the item about the SP streamlined ops.
I'm spending a few weeks as an observer aboard the USNS Pecos, a fleet oiler. Late June I'll travel to Singapore to join the USNS Diehl, another fleet oiler, for a few months. I'm trying to get lined up for some training in Maryland next October & November. After that, I expect to return to the Kiska. As always, subject to change.
In my case, birthday wishes will do. Thanks for the thought.
Well, as always, sorry this is so short. I've just spent the last few hours reading back pages trying to get caught up, it's late and I'm tired here!!
John

[trolleyboy]

Gentlemen here's the skinny on a good portion of Tom's fine photography.Some photo's do not have info as I've yet to see them ( red x of death on my end )

The museum shots from page 343 are as follows:

#1 front entrance sign board for the HCRY

#2The original TTC sbway cars made in Gloster england as delivered in the vibrant red scheme for the first TTC subway line on Yonge St, these cars were retired in 1974. Very heavy all steel cars this set of 2 weigh 40t

#3 A set of TTC M cars. These subway cars were built by Bombardier in the MLW plant in 1964 and are all alluminum cars openned the University and Bloor lines in Toronto these were retired in 1984

#4 Subway flatcars MOW RT 28 and RT 29 these run on G car powertrucks and control systems ( red subway cars ) these were built in the early 70's by Hawher sidely in Thunder Bay. arrived at the musuem in 1993 we are converting them to overhead power RT 28 already is RT 29 has had it's rear cab removed and we are going to convert it to a maintenance crane ( once we find a suitable crane )

#5 Locomotives at the Front gate. Box cab is L&PS L2 ab Engish electric built unit BW power and controls built in 1915 retired in 1955 arruived at the Museum in 1976 currently non operational ( still set for 1500v over head ) The sencond ( front locomotive ) GRR 335 a BW class B clone. It was built by preston car and Caoch to Class B designs in 1917 ran on the GRR till it was dieselized in 1961 arrived at the museum in the late 1970's. Currently non operational due to being stripped of it's copper by CPR before it was donated. Will run again as all the sapres have been found for it !

#6-7 Our crew sleeper VIA sleeper former NYC Dorcas Bay and CPR wide vision caboose our crews home away from home if they stay over.

#8 Line up of transit busses in our parking lot all but one are electric trolley busses from Brill and Flyer all the trolley busses are HSR or TTC units.

#9-10 Toms bus is a 1957 GMC first automatic transmition city bus. This one is from the city of Brampton, still runs as well.

#14 TTC air electric PCC 4000, the first PCC built for Toronto 1938 build date

#18-19 Interior exterior shots of 2894 a small Peter witt built by the Ottawa car co for the TTC in 1925 a mainstay in our operating fleet.

#19Meadowvale station shelter an original stop shelter for the Toronto Suburban Ry. Found in a farmers feild and brought to the musuem in the 70's. A portionof the TSR ROW is our musuem's mainline.

#20 Self explanatory- A one holer for those in need ! [swg]

#24-25The queen of the fleet L&PS passenger car #8 built in 1915 by the Jewett car co ran til 1960 on the L&PS fully restored and operational. This is a classic interurban coach init's heyday capable of 70mph !

#26 The city of London crest which marked all the L&PS passenger equipment, hand painted by one of our volenteers !

#27 Chicago L car #48, a light weigth mu car built around satndard PCC electrics

#28-29 Yard 2 in all it's glory

#30 Heather's favourite car TRC 327 an 1896 open car. Rebuilt to plan in 1933 original Montreal truck and perating gear. This is a handbrake only car ! An also the crowd favourite at the musuem.

Page 344

#14 large scale model of Canada's last operational; aircraft carrier and flagship of the Atlantic Fleet. Built for ASW operations she feilded an airwing of gruman tracker's and sea king heliocopters and a defense wing of F2F banshee jet fighters. she was a Majestic class light fleet carrier and served from 1959 to 1971

#15 B25J light bomber from RCAF #405 "wolf "squadron shown painted in 1944 D-day invasion stripes. Used for ground attack and troop support missions

#16 Close up of nose art on the B25. This plane usuaklly flies in 3 or 4 airshows a year. a larger proportion of the aircraft at the museum do fly !

#17 418 tiger Squadron CF104 Starfighter in the "tigermeat" paintjob> Mainsaty in RCAF interceptor wings based in germany from the late 60's to the early 80's

#18 A Canadair built sabre 5 jet. This aircraft is in the colours of the Golden centenaires Air demonstration team ( fore runner of today's Snowbirds ) The sabre 5's were the RCAF's main fighter from 1952 to 1964 when they were replaced by the CF100 Canuks from Avro

#19 a dehaviland Vampire a carrier based Jet flown on HMCS warrior and HMCS Magnificent from 1947-1957. On the wall behind you can see some of the memory wall for RCAF pilots killed in both World wars and Korea.

#20 a Spitfire 9 this is a non-flying fullsize fibreglass model

#21 a hawher hurricane in Battle of Britain 242 fighter sqaudron markings thiss is also a fobregalss fullsize mock up. Both it and the Spitfire in picture 20 are repersentations of the actual flyable hurrican and spitfirs that the CWP musuem lost in a fire that destroyed their original hanger in 1987 they almost lost the Lancaster in the same blaze. an Avenger torpedo bomber was also completly bunt out in this same fire.


I'll catch the rest tomorrow

Rob

[trolleyboy]

Good evening gentlemen ( late evening ) suffice to say i'm a bit PO'd. I had every intention to sup in the birthday bash yesterday but soem drunken yahoo took out a transmission pole in the city suffice to say we were without power from 12:30pm tosomwhwere around 2AM my time[tdn] for this particular JO.

After a late evening shift here I is hot n bothered got somewhere in the range of 85 with 70% humidity today [tdn]

Tom I'm glad that you were able to make daves day yesterday. A fine collection of SP posts and pictures from your archivese and lars's.The S capades look grand the second time around as well. I'll have a few picture descriptions momentarily. I must say the spread you put on today was wonderfull, to bad no one else was able to jump in [:(] I am getting the red box of death for several of them, mind you everytime I log in more of them load up, so I may have to spread out the descriptions over a couple of sittings [:(]. i know buy a new computer.It will happen ion time just not likley this year.

Mike & al Great urls and a streamliner to support Tom in the birthday efforts on Saturday, wish I could have been there.

Dave Sorry I missed your bash a belated [bday] wish. I appreciated your couple of SP posts as well. Learned a bit about some of the early SP paint jobs from them . For my [2c] I liked the full Black Widow paint scheme the best, something that should have stayed oh well. Loved the rerolls on your earlier PE posts as well. Good info all around on a fine interurban system.

Rob

[siberianmo]

Gentlemen,

Ever wonder about those fine pix that have been Posted during past Sunday Photo Posting Days! [?] The guys who took the time and made the effort to provide one and all with some enjoyable Pix deserve to have their work preserved. So, here’s something you may want to “bookmark” for future use: [tup]

UNFORTUNATELY some of the Pix have disappeared, especially those stored with PhotoBucket. [tdn]


INDEX:
January – May 2006 Sunday Photo Posting Days!

Begins on: . . . . . click on the URL

(1) Page 214, 08 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=214&TOPIC_ID=35270

(2) Page 220, 15 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=220&TOPIC_ID=35270

(3) Page 227, 22 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=227&TOPIC_ID=35270

(4) Page 232, 29 Jan 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=232&TOPIC_ID=35270

(5) Page 238, 05 Feb 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=238&TOPIC_ID=35270

(6) Page 244, 12 Feb 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=244&TOPIC_ID=35270

(7) Page 251, 19 Feb 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=251&TOPIC_ID=35270

(8) Page 257, 26 Feb 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=257&TOPIC_ID=35270

(9) Page 264, 05 Mar 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=264&TOPIC_ID=35270

(10) Page 273, 12 Mar 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=273&TOPIC_ID=35270

(11) Page 280, 19 Mar 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=280&TOPIC_ID=35270

(12) Page 285, 26 Mar 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=285&TOPIC_ID=35270

(13) Page 291, 02 Apr 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=291&TOPIC_ID=35270

(14) Page 297, 09 Apr 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=297&TOPIC_ID=35270

(15) Page 306, 16 Apr 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=306&TOPIC_ID=35270

(16) Page 312, 23 Apr 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=312&TOPIC_ID=35270

(17) Page 318, 30 Apr 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=318&TOPIC_ID=35270

(18) Page 324, 07 May 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=324&TOPIC_ID=35270

(19) Page 330 14 May 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=330&TOPIC_ID=35270

(20) Page 337, 21 May 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=337&TOPIC_ID=35270

(21) Page 343, 28 May 2006
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=343&TOPIC_ID=35270


With my compliments![tup] . . . Although I seriously doubt anyone gives a Rat's Patoot! Yesterday and today have been an embarrassment to what used to be such an interactive Thread. [tdn]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


The final set from Day #2 (the “extra” day) at our Rendezvous! These Pix are from the Canadian Warplane Heritage museum in Hamilton, Ontario.
(Numbers have been provided so that trolleyboy Rob can add descriptions as appropriate!)

PART III of III


(27) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(28) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(29) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
A Chevy truck!




(30) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
The famed Lancaster Bomber




(31) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(32) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(33) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
Lancaster bomber’s aft gun




(34) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
A view through the Lancaster’s interior – taken from the aft gunner’s position




(35) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
An honored and heroic aviator – Andrew Mynarski




(36) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
Memorial to Andrew Mynarski inside Lancaster bomber




(37) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
Andrew Mynarski’s awards & recognition




(38) Day is done!



That concludes the Rendezvous in Toronto Pix from me – hope you enjoyed them over these past couple of weeks.
My others are located on pages: 320 – 328 – 338 (3-sets).


If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


See y’all tomorrow![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]



REMINDER! Read the Daily SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Continuing along with Day #2 (the “extra” day) at our Rendezvous! These Pix are from the Canadian Warplane Heritage museum in Hamilton, Ontario.
(Numbers have been provided so that trolleyboy Rob can add descriptions as appropriate!)

PART II of III


(14) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
Canadian aircraft carrier Bonaventure




(15) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(16) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(17) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(18) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(19) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(20) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(21) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(22) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(23) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(24) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(25) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(26) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum



More to follow . . . .


If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy! [tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the Daily SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Continuing along with Day #2 (the “extra” day) at our Rendezvous! These Pix are from the Canadian Warplane Heritage museum in Hamilton, Ontario.
(Numbers have been provided so that trolleyboy Rob can add descriptions as appropriate!)

PART I of III

(1) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(2) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(3) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(4) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(5) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(6) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
[i]This is the Air Canada aircraft that I arrived and departed aboard!




(7) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(8) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(9) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
center Pix: Wing Commander’s uniform




(10) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
D-Day!




(11) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum
Lancaster bomber




(12) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum




(13) Canadian Heritage Warplane museum



More to follow . . . .


If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy! [tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the Daily SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


Continuing along with Day #2 (the “extra” day) at The Halton County Radial Railway!
(Numbers have been provided so that trolleyboy Rob can add descriptions as appropriate!)


PART III of III

(21) Return ride!




(22) Good crowd!




(23) A classic!




(24) Interurban car #8




(25) Interurban car #8 interior




(26) Interurban herald




(27) Chicago “El”




(28) Quite an assortment!




(29) Interurban & friends!




(30) Heather’s car!




(31) Restorations in the barn!




(32) Last foto at the Halton County Radial Railway!



Next up – Pix from the Canadian Warplane Heritage museum


If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy! [tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the Daily SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

PART II of III

Continuing along with Day #2 (the “extra” day) at The Halton County Radial Railway!
Numbers have been provided so that trolleyboy Rob can add descriptions as appropriate!)


(11) At the loop!




(12) Her she comes!




(13) There she goes!




(14) Car #4000




(15) ”Our” Trolley!




(16) Car #2894 looking forward




(17) Who did that!?




(18) We’re being followed!




(19) Meadowvale stop




(20) Malfunction Junction!



More later . . . .


If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the Daily SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

PART I of III

Here are some Rendezvous Pix from Day 2 (the “extra” day!):
(Numbers have been provided so that trolleyboy Rob can provide descriptions as appropriate!)


(1) Halton County Radial Railway




(2) Ted – Rob ‘ Heather




(3) Subway cars




(4) Subway flat cars




(5) Electric locos




(6) VIA Rail #9482 - converted to crew car




(7) VIA Rail #9482 & CPR caboose – converted to crew cars



(8) Transit buses




(9) Tom’s bus!




(10) Tom’s bus!



More later . . . .


If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the Daily SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s –
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!


NOW PLAYING at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

. . . Sunday, May 28th thru June 2nd: Patton (1970) starring: George C. Scott & Karl Malden –and- The Eagle Has Landed (1977) starring Michael Caine, Robert Duvall & Donald Sutherland. SHORT: Uncivil Warriors (1935).


Patton (1970)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: "Patton" tells the tale of General George S. Patton, famous tank commander of World War II. The film begins with Patton's career in North Africa and progresses through the invasion of Germany and the fall of the Third Reich. Side plots also speak of Patton's numerous faults such his temper and habit towards insubordination. Faults which would, eventually, lead to his being relieved as Occupation Commander of Germany.

from: www.imdb.com



The Eagle Has Landed (1977)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Oberst Steiner, a German parachute unit commander, is sent to England on a covert mission to kidnap Prime Minister Winston Churchill and bring him to Berlin. The seemingly impossible assignment becomes more and more feasible as the mission grows nearer with Steiner and his men arriving in England to a very real possibility of success.

from: www.imdb.com



Three Stooges Short Subject: Uncivil Warriors (1935)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly
The Stooges are three Union spies who infiltrate the Confederate headquarters of General Butts. They manage to trick him into revealing the Southern army's true strength, but are later exposed as spies and have to make a run for it.

I will be on vacation next Sunday!
COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, June 3rd thru June 9th: The Great Escape (1963) starring: Steve McQueen, James Garner & Richard Attenborough –and- The Longest Day (1962) starring: 42 International Stars. SHORT: Pardon My Scotch (1935).


The Great Escape (1963)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Based on a true story, "The Great Escape" deals with the largest Allied escape attempt from a German POW camp during the Second World War. The first part of the film focuses on the escape efforts within the camp and the process of secretly digging an escape tunnel. The second half of the film deals with the massive effort by the German Gestapo to track down the over 70 escaped prisoners who are at this point throughout the Third Reich attempting to make their way to England and various neutral countries.

from: www.imdb.com



The Longest Day (1962)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: England in June 1944. Unseasonal storms. Allied troops are massed ready for the invasion of France, some already on the boats. The Normandy beaches will be their destination while paratroopers are dropped inland to take key towns and bridges. On the other side of the Channel the Germans still expect the invasion at Calais, and anyway the weather makes them think nothing is likely to be imminent. Eisenhower decides to go. Hitler sleeps on.

Three Stooges Short Subject: Pardon My Scotch (1935)

QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly
Moe, Larry and Curly are carpenters installing a door at Mr. Jone's drugstore. Jones leaves the boys in charge while he tries to settle a liquor delivery problem. The liquor salesman comes in and asks the Stooges to make him a "pick me up," which they mix up themselves in the back in an old boot. The Stooges' concoction knocks his hat off, and the salesman is convinced that the new drink will bring a fortune. He then tries to pass the Stooges off as the Scottish whiskey makers McSniff, McSnuff and McSnort at a party in his boss's home.

If you are browsing, how about letting the guys know that you’ve enjoyed their efforts!


Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! Courtesy: www.viarail.ca


We open at 6 AM on Monday. (All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs but do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day![tup][tup][tup]


Daily Wisdom


Never try to drown your sorrows if she kin swim.



Info for the Day:


* Weekly Calendar:

Wednesday: Toy & Model Trains Day!
Thursday: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday


MONDAY, May 29th is U.S. Memorial Day!



MVP Award Winners



April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars



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Comedy Corner

Yarns from the Barn
(from barndad Doug’s Posts)

[:I] Four Secrets to a Happy Marriage (from a Male Point of View)
1. It is important to find a woman who cooks and cleans.
2. It is important to find a woman who makes good money.
3. It is important to find a woman who loves to have sex.
4. It is very important that these three women never meet!! [:I]


[:I] Q - What do you do to an elephant with three balls?
A - Walk him, and pitch to the giraffe [:I]


[:I] An undertaker is walking through the graveyard when he sees a man kneeling in front of a gravestone crying and "why did you have to die?"
"Is that your wife," the undertaker asked.
"No, says the man... it was my wife's first husband." [:I]


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre


NOW SHOWING:

Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, May 28th thru June 2nd: Patton (1970) starring: George C. Scott & Karl Malden –and- The Eagle Has Landed (1977) starring Michael Caine, Robert Duvall & Donald Sutherland. SHORT: Uncivil Warriors (1935).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, June 3rd thru June 9th: The Great Escape (1963) starring: Steve McQueen, James Garner & Richard Attenborough –and- The Longest Day (1962) starring: 42 International Stars. SHORT: Pardon My Scotch (1935).


. . . Sunday, June 10th thru June 16th: Major League II (1994) starring: Tom Berenger & Charlie Sheen –and- Mr. Baseball (1992) starring: Tom Selleck, K. Taukura & A. Takanashi. SHORT: Hoi Poloi (1935).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 27 May 2006, 00:35:39 (342) Count Robulla’s Inclusive Post!

(2) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 27 May 2006, 00:40:24 (342) ENCORE: Canadian Electric Car & Loco Co’s

(3) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 27 May 2006, 00:50:03 (342) ENCORE: American providers of streetcars & loco’s to Canada

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 07:42:36 (342) Saturday’s Info & 19-Post Summary

(5) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 27 May 2006, 08:37:30 (342) Gulf Coast Report!

(6) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 27 May 2006, 08:52:38 (342) for Tom

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 10:05:50 (343) B’day! ENCORE: SP RR from Yesteryear!

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 10:11:07 (343) B’day! ENCORE: SP Fallen Flag

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 10:29:11 (343) B’day! ENCORE: 4 S-Capades Pix!

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 10:49:16 (343) B’day! ENCORE: 6 SP Pix (from Lars)!

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 11:04:52 (343) B’day! ENCORE: Nostalgia SP Ad

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 11:13:22 (343) B’day! ENCORE: Nostalgia SP Ad

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 11:19:42 (343) B’day ENCORE: Nostalgia SP Ad

(14) West Coast S Dave Posted: 27 May 2006, 12:24:10 (343) Left Coast Musings!

(15) West Coast S Dave Posted: 27 May 2006, 13:15:54 (343) ENCORE! Saturday: Alpine Tavern & Inn

(16) passengerfan Al Posted: 27 May 2006, 17:44:52 (343) B’day! ENCORE: SP streamlined obs

(17) wanswheel Mike Posted: 27 May 2006, 17:56:18 (343) B’day URLs

(18) West Coast S Dave Posted: 27 May 2006, 19:11:45 (343) B’day: SP paint schemes, etc.

(19) wanswheel Mike Posted: 27 May 2006, 21:39:53 (343) B’day: URLs

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 27 May 2006, 21:44:45 (343) G’nite! [zzz]



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Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!