QUOTE: Now arriving on track #1 ….. Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Seven Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. Southern Pacific Railroad Reporting marks: SP,SSW Locale: Arizona, California, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Texas, and Utah Dates of operation: 1865 – 1996 Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) with some 3 ft (914 mm) gauge branches Headquarters: San Francisco, CA The Southern Pacific Railroad (AAR reporting mark SP) was an American railroad. The railroad was founded as a land holding company in 1865, forming part of the Central Pacific Railroad empire. The Southern Pacific's route miles has varied over the years but in 1929 the system showed 13,848 miles of track and in 1994 it had 8,991 miles of track. By 1900, the Southern Pacific Company had grown into a major railroad system that incorporated a lot of smaller companies, such as the Texas and New Orleans Railroad and Morgan's Louisiana and Texas Railroad, and that extended from New Orleans through Texas to El Paso, across New Mexico and through Tucson, Arizona, to Los Angeles, throughout most of California including San Francisco and Sacramento; it absorbed the Central Pacific Railroad extending eastward across Nevada to Ogden, Utah and had lines reaching north throughout and across Oregon to Portland. On August 9, 1988, the Interstate Commerce Commission approved the purchase of the Southern Pacific by Rio Grande Industries, the company that controlled the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad. The Rio Grande officially took control of the Southern Pacific on October 13, 1988. After the purchase, the combined railroad kept the Southern Pacific name due to its brand recognition in the railroad industry and with customers of both constituent railroads. The Southern Pacific was taken over by the Union Pacific Railroad in 1996 following years of financial problems. The railroad is also noteworthy for being the defendant in the landmark 1886 United States Supreme Court case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad which is often interpreted as having established certain corporate rights under the Constitution of the United States. • Timeline • 1851: The oldest line to become a part of the Southern Pacific system, the Buffalo Bayou, Brazos and Colorado Railway begins construction between Houston, TX and Alleyton, TX. • 1865: A group of businessmen in San Francisco, CA, led by Timothy Phelps, found the Southern Pacific Railroad to build a rail connection between San Francisco and San Diego, CA. • September 25, 1868: The Big Four purchases the Southern Pacific. • 1870: Southern Pacific and Central Pacific operations are merged. • June 1873: The Southern Pacific builds its first locomotive at the railroad's Sacramento shops as CP's 2nd number 55, a 4-4-0. • November 8, 1874: Southern Pacific tracks reach Bakersfield, CA and work begins on the Tehachapi Loop • September 5, 1876: The first through train from San Francisco arrives in Los Angeles, CA after travelling over the newly completed Tehachapi Loop. • 1877: Southern Pacific tracks from Los Angeles cross the Colorado River at Yuma, AZ. • 1879: Southern Pacific engineers experiment with the first oil-fired locomotives. • March 20, 1880: The first Southern Pacific train reaches Tucson, AZ. • May 11 1880: The Mussel Slough Tragedy takes place in Hanford, CA, a dispute over property rights with SP. • May 19, 1881: Southern Pacific tracks reach El Paso, TX. • January 12, 1883: The second transcontinental railroad line is completed as the Southern Pacific tracks from Los Angeles meet the Galveston, Harrisburg and San Antonio Railway at the Pecos River. The golden spike is driven by Col. Tom Pierce, the GH&SA president, atop the Pecos River High Bridge • March 17, 1884: The Southern Pacific is incorporated in Kentucky. • February 17, 1885: The Southern Pacific and Central Pacific are combined under a holding company named the Southern Pacific Company. • April 1, 1885: The Southern Pacific takes over all operation of the Central Pacific. Effectively, the CP no longer exists as a separate company. • 1886: The first refrigerator cars on the Southern Pacific enter operation. • 1886: Southern Pacific wins the landmark Supreme Court case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad which establishes equal rights under the law to corporations. • 1898: Sunset magazine is founded as a promotional tool of the Southern Pacific. • 1901: Frank Norris' novel, The Octopus: A California Story, a fictional retelling of the Mussel Slough Tragedy and the events leading up to it, is published. • 1903: Southern Pacific gains 50% control of the Pacific Electric system in Los Angeles. • March 8, 1904: SP opens the Lucin Cutoff across the Great Salt Lake, bypassing Promontory, UT for the railroad's mainline. • March 20, 1904: SP's Coast Line is completed between Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, CA. • April 18, 1906: The great 1906 San Francisco earthquake strikes, damaging the railroad's headquarters building and destroying the mansions of the now-deceased Big Four. • 1906: SP and UP jointly form the Pacific Fruit Express (PFE) refrigerator car line. • 1913: The Supreme Court of the United States orders the Union Pacific to sell all of its stock in the Southern Pacific. • December 28, 1917: The federal government takes control of American railroads in preparation for World War I • 1923: The Interstate Commerce Commission allows the SP's control of the Central Pacific to continue, ruling that the control is in the public's interest. • 1932: The SP gains 87% control of the Cotton Belt Railroad. • May 1939: UP, SP and Santa Fe passenger trains in Los Angeles are united into a single terminal as Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal is opened. • 1947: The first diesels enter mainline operation on the SP. • 1947: Southern Pacific is reincorporated in Delaware. • 1951: Southern Pacific subsidiary Sud Pacifico de Mexico is sold to the Mexican government. • 1952: A difficult year for the SP in California opens with the City of San Francisco train marooned for three days in heavy snow on Donner Pass; that summer, an earthquake hits the Tehachapi pass, closing the entire route over the Tehachapi Loop until repairs can be made. • 1953: The first Trailer-On-Flat-Car (TOFC, or "piggyback") equipment enters service on the SP. • 1957: The last steam locomotives in regular operation on the SP are retired; the railroad is now fully dieselized. • 1965: Southern Pacific's bid for control of the Western Pacific is rejected by the ICC. • 1967: SP opens the longest stretch of new railroad construction in a quarter century as the first trains roll over the Palmdale Cutoff through Cajon Pass. • 1980: Now owning a 98.34% control of the Cotton Belt, the Southern Pacific extends the Cotton Belt from St. Louis to Santa Rosa, New Mexico through acquisition of part of the former Rock Island Railroad. (copied per terms of GNU Free Document License) SP 8033, a GE Dash 8-39B, leads a westbound train through Eola, Illinois (just east of Aurora), October 6, 1992. • 1984: The Southern Pacific Company merges into Santa Fe Industries, parent of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway, to form Santa Fe Southern Pacific Corporation. When the Interstate Commerce Commission refuses permission for the planned merger of the railroad subsidiaries as the Southern Pacific Santa Fe Railroad SPSF shortens its name to Santa Fe Pacific Corporation and puts the SP railroad up for sale while retaining the non-rail assets of the Southern Pacific Company. • October 13, 1988: Rio Grande Industries, parent of the Rio Grande Railroad, takes control of the Southern Pacific Railroad. The merged company retains the name "Southern Pacific" for all railroad operations. • 1996: The Union Pacific finishes the acquisition that was effectively begun almost a century before with the purchase of the Southern Pacific. The merged company retains the name "Union Pacific" for all railroad operations. Locomotive paint and appearance (copied from public domain) Like most railroads, the SP painted the majority of its steam locomotive fleet black during the 20th century, but after the 1930s the SP had a policy of painting the front of the locomotive's smokebox light silver (almost white in appearance), with graphite colored sides, for visibility. Some express passenger steam locomotives bore the Daylight scheme, named after the trains they hauled, most of which had the word Daylight in the train name. This scheme, carried in full on the tender, consisted of a bright, almost vermilion red on the top and bottom thirds, with the center third being a bright orange. The parts were separated with thin white bands. Some of the color continued along the locomotive. The most famous Daylight-hauled trains were the Coast Daylight and the Sunset Limited. Southern Pacific was famous for its cab-forward steam locomotives. These were essentially 2-8-8-4 locomotives set up to run in reverse, with the tender attached to the smokebox end of the locomotive. Southern Pacific used a number of snow sheds in mountain terrain, and locomotive crews nearly asphyxiated from smoke blowing back to the cab. After a number of engineers began running their engines in reverse (pushing the tender), Southern Pacific asked Baldwin Locomotive Works to produce cab-forward designs. No other North American railroad ordered cab-forward locomotives, which became a distinctive symbol of the Southern Pacific. During the early days of diesel locomotive use, they were also painted black. Yard switchers had diagonal orange stripes painted on the ends for visibility, earning this scheme the nickname of Tiger Stripe. Road freight units were generally painted in a black scheme with a red band at the bottom of the carbody and a silver and orange "winged" nose. The words "SOUTHERN PACIFIC" were borne in a large serif font in white. This paint scheme is called the Black Widow scheme by railfans. A transitory scheme, of all-over black with orange "winged" nose, was called the Halloween scheme. Few locomotives were painted in this scheme and few photos of it exist. Most passenger units were painted originally in the Daylight scheme as described above, though some were painted red on top, silver below for use on the Golden State (operated in cooperation with the Rock Island Railroad) between Chicago and Los Angeles. In 1959 SP standardized on a paint scheme of dark grey with a red "winged" nose; this scheme was dubbed Bloody Nose by railfans. Lettering was again in white. After the merger with the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad, the side lettering became often done in the Rio Grande "speed lettering" style. Unlike many other railroads, whose locomotive numberboards bore the locomotive's number, the SP used them for the train number all they way up to the proposed Southern Pacific Santa Fe Railroad merger. By the Rio Grande Industries era, SP had adopted the more standard practice of using the number boards for the road number. Passenger train service Until May 1, 1971 (when Amtrak took over long-distance passenger operations in the United States), the Southern Pacific at various times operated the following named passenger trains: • 49er • Argonaut • Beaver • Cascade Limited • City of San Francisco (operated jointly with the Chicago and North Western Railway and the Union Pacific Railroad) • Coast Daylight • Coaster • Del Monte • Fast Mail • Golden State (operated jointly with the Rock Island Railroad) • Klamath • Lark • Oregonian • Overland • Owl • Pacific Limited • Rogue River • Sacramento Daylight • San Francisco Challenger • San Joaquin Daylight • Shasta • Shasta Limited • Sunset • Sunset Limited • Tehachapi • West Coast Company officers Presidents of the Southern Pacific Company • Timothy Guy Phelps (1865-1868) • Leland Stanford (1868-1890) • Collis P. Huntington (1890-1900) • Charles Hayes (1900-1901) • E. H. Harriman (1901-1909) • Robert Lovett (1909-1911) • William Sproule (1911-1918) • Julius Krutschnitt (1918-1920) • William Sproule (1920-1928) • Paul Shoup (1929-1932) • Angus Daniel McDonald (1932-1941) • Armand Mercier (1941-1951) • Donald Russell (1952-1964) • Benjamin Biaggini (1964-1976) • Denman McNear (1976-1979) • Alan Furth (1979-1982) • Robert Krebs (1982-1983) • D. M. "Mike" Mohan (1984-1996) Chairmen of the Southern Pacific Company Executive Committee • Leland Stanford (1890-1893) • (vacant 1893-1909) • Robert Lovett (1909-1913) • Julius Krutschnitt (1913-1925) • Henry deForest (1925-1928) • Hale Holden (1928-1932) • Chairmen of the Southern Pacific Company Board of Directors • Henry deForest (1929-1932) • Hale Holden (1932-1939) • (position nonexistent 1939-1964) • Donald Russell (1964-1972) • (vacant 1972-1976) • Benjamin Biaggini (1976-1983) Predecessor and Subsidiary Railroads • California Pacific Railroad (Cal-P line Sacramento - Martinez, CA) • Central Pacific Railroad o Sacramento Southern Railroad • Northern Railway SP Subsidiary o West Side & Mendocino Railroad (Willows - Fruto, CA) • Northwestern Pacific Railroad • San Diego and Arizona Railway Sucessor Railroads • California Northern Railroad • Eureka Southern Railroad o North Coast Railroad • San Diego and Arizona Eastern Railway • San Joaquin Valley Railroad References • Beebe, Lucius (1963). The Central Pacific & The Southern Pacific Railroads, Howell-North Books, Berkeley, CA. ISBN 083107034X. • Diebert, Timothy S. and Strapac, Joseph A. (1987). Southern Pacific Company steam locomotive compendium, Shade Tree Books, Huntington Beach, CA. ISBN 0-930742-12-5. • Yenne, Bill (1985). The History of the Southern Pacific, Bonanza, New York, NY. ISBN 0-517-46084X. • Thompson, Anthony W., et al (1992). Pacific Fruit Express, Signature Press, Wilton, CA. ISBN 1-930013-03-5. • Orsi, Richard J (2005). Sunset Limited. The Southern Pacific Railroad and the Development of the American West 1850-1930, University of California Press. ISBN 0-520-20019-5. Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements
QUOTE: Southern Pacific (SP) : (from: Classic American Railroads) Headquarters: San Francisco, CA Mileage: 1950: 15,039 (including subsidiary St. Louis-Southwestern) 1955: 178,340 (including subsidiaries, SW, SPCSL, and D&RGW) Locomotives in 1963: Diesel: 2,096 Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars 77,401 - Passenger cars: 1,002 Principal lines as of 1950: Los Angeles-San Francisco via San Jose San Jose-Ogden, Utah Davis, CA-Portland, OR, via Chemult and Eugene, OR Eugene-Black Butte via Roseburg, OR Sacramento-Burbank (LA) via Bakersfield Lathrop-Martinez, CA LA-New Orleans via Phoenix, AZ El Paso, TX-Tucumcari, NM Galveston-Dallas/Denison, TX via Houston and Hearne Rosenburg-Brownsville, TX San Antonio-Corpus Christi, TX Houston-Shreveport, LA St. Louis-Dallas/Ft. Worth (SSW) Memphis, TN-Brinkley, AR Mt. Pleasant-Waco, TX (SSW) Lewisville, AK-Shreveport, LA (SSW) Principal added lines as of 1996: Tucumcari-St. Louis via Kansas City St. Louis-Chicago via Bloomington, IL Kansas City-Chicago via Quincy, IL (trackage rights on BNSF) Kansas City-Chicago via Ft. Madison, IA (trackage rights on BNSF) Ogden-Pueblo, CO via Salt Lake City, UT and Salida, CO Dotsero-Pueblo, CO via Grandby and Denver Pueblo-Kansas City via Salinas, KS (trackage rights on UP) Notable passenger trains: Argonault (LA-New Orleans) Cascade (Oakland-Portland) City of San Francisco (Oakland-Chicago via Ogden; joint with UP and C&NW) – Milwaukee Road after 1955) Coast Daylight (San Francisco-LA via San Luis Obispo; for a time also known as Morning Daylight) Del Monte (San Francisco-Monterey, CA) Golden State Limited (LA-Chicago via Tucumcari; joint with Rock Island) Hustler (Houston-Dallas) Imperial (LA-Chicago via Tucumcari; joint with Rock Island) Lark (Oakland/San Francisco-LA via San Luis Obispo) Owl (San Francisco-LA via Bakersfield) Sacramento Daylight (Sacramento-LA via Bakersfield) San Francisco Overland (Until Oct 1955, Oakland-Chicago via Ogden; joint with UP and C&NW; after 1955 Oakland-St. Louis joint with the Wabash Railroad) San Joaquin Daylight (Oakland-LA via Bakersfield) Shasta Daylight (Oakland-Portland) Starlight (San Francisco-LA) Sunbeam (Houston-Dallas) Sunset Limited (Initially San Francisco-New Orleans via San Joaquin Valley; later cut back to LA-New Orleans).
QUOTE: PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #20 Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection. Did you hear what the Cowboy said about the “Golden State”? ”WHAT A RIDE FER DUDES! SHE’S THE SMOOTHEST AND PURTIEST THING ON WHEELS FROM CHICAGO TO ARIZONA OR CALIFORNIA! ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!” We think, you’ll enjoy our ”Golden State,” especially if you’re an experienced traveler. We have many friends who repeat, winter after winter, “chasing the sun Southwest” on this smooth, extra-fare S.P. & Rock Island streamliner. It’s convenient. Takes you via El Paso and Southern Arizona’s winter resorts to Palm Springs & Los Angeles. She’s been re-streamlined, too, from stem to stern. We’ve issued a folder to celebrate the event and would like to send it to you. Helps you choose your accommodations, whether Pullman (Drawing rooms, Compartments, Bedrooms, Roomettes) or Chair Car (economical; Coffee Shop). By the way, the ”Golden State” is extra fast, too – 44 ¼ pleasant hours, Chicago-Los Angeles or vice versa. Fine connecting streamliners. Perhaps you’d like to try another great S.P. route, going home. That way you see twice as much, usually for no extra rail fare. The little map shows how. Why don’t you plan on the ”Golden State” for this winter or next summer? And meantime, let us send you that folder? ”GOLDEN STATE,” Chicago-Los Angeles, via El Paso, Douglas, Bisbee, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs, 44 ¼ hours. Through Pullmans, Minneapolis and St. Louis to Los Angeles. Through Chair car, Minneapolis-Los Angeles. Connecting service to San Diego. SP AMERICA’S MOST MODERN TRAINS
QUOTE: PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #21 Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection. Did you hear what the Colonel said about the “Sunset Limited” ”WHAT A TRAIN, SUN! THE FLOWER OF NEW ORLEANS, THE BOAST OF TEXAS, THE SUNLIGHT OF ARIZONA, THE SENSATION OF HOLLYWOOD. ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!” We’re happy to say that thousands of Americans are finding our ”Sunset Limited” a new and charming way to go West. We think that you, too, will enjoy this sensational new ”Streamlined Train With the Southern Accent.” Especially with that New Orleans stopover. Luxury Pullman or Chair Car. Extra fare. Your connections at New Orleans from, or two, points like Chicago, St. Louis, Washington, New York, etc., are good and offer fine streamliners. (New Orleans is a gourmet’s and shopper’s delight as you know.) The ”Sunset Limited” takes you in 42 delightful hours through the heart of Texas, Southern Arizona’s winter resort country, Palm Springs & Los Angeles. There, you can connect with other great new S.P. streamliners, can return by another S.P. route. You see twice as much. The little map shows how. Why not try it this winter? Or next summer? And meantime, why not let us send you our New Orleans folder, and full information about this new way to California? Mail coupon below today ”SUNSET LIMITED” New Orleans-Los Angeles via Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Douglas, Bisbee, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs. Connects at New Orleans with streamliners to and from Chicago, New York, Washington, other Eastern points. SP AMERICA’S MOST MODERN TRAINS
QUOTE: PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #22 Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection. Did you hear what the ‘49er said about the “City of San Francisco” ”WHAT A TRAIN, PARDNER! SHE’S THE FASTEST THING ON WHEELS BETWEEN CHICAGO AND THE GOLDEN GATE! ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!” Did you know that you can board a modern streamliner in Chicago and travedl at your ease the same route the ‘49ers struggled over in the Gold Rush? Well, you can. In the crack extra-fare ”City of San Francisco” for instance, or the ”Overland” that shows you California’s lovely High Sierra by day. Until you’ve done this you’ve never really seen the West. We’ve just issued a new folder we’re rather proud of, ”Planning Your Overland Route Trip.” Tells you all about accommodations on these great “name trains” (finest Pullman; economical Chair Car). By the way, at San Francisco these streamliners connect with our famous ”Lark,” “Daylight” and “Starlight” south to Los Angeles, thence with other great S.P. streamliners eastward. Or with the new ”Cascade” and ”Shasta Daylight” northward, right past gorgeous 14,161 foot Mt. Shasta to the lovely Pacific Northwest. Mail that coupon today for free folders. ”CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO” Chicago-San Francisco via Omaha, Ogden, Great Salt Lake, Reno, Oakland. 40 ½ hours westbound via CNW-UP-SP. Shown here with Golden Gate Bridge in the background. SP AMERICA’S MOST MODERN TRAINS
QUOTE: Originally posted by West Coast S The grandest inn on the Pacifc Electric was the Alpine Tavern & Inn, located atop Mt. Lowe, a jewel in the Pacific Electric crown. PE would disembark passengers at Ruby Canyon, above Pasadena for transfer to the 7.5 mile incline railway which was famous the world over for the trestle work and other engineering feats needed to traverse the rugged terrain. In the late 20s Thadius Lowe, owner and builder of the Inn & Tavern and driving force in the incline railway being completed, was forced to surrender his ownership to PE or face personal ruin caused by the effects of the depression. PE suffered through washouts and landsides on the incline caused by severe winter rains of 1931, the entire line was closed for over a year. PE regrouped and rebuilt, but already patronage had fallen off. Eventually fire would destroy a set of trestles near the summit, the Tavern & Inn was also destroyed around the same time in a second fire, known as the Pilot Peak blaze. PE salavaged the rails and machinary , pulled the line to Ruby canyon and exited the canyon for good. In the ensuing decades fire and the effects of man man would reduce all vestiges. The US Forest service, dynamited the power house and all surviving strucures in 1962, items too large to move, were simply bulldozed over the mountain side, the rails that PE was unable to salvage, were uncovered and also tossed over the side. Despite the carnage done, A sucessfull legal effort by dedicated persons has garnered National Historic Preservation status for the entire former route. Considerable restoration of the line has been in progress by volunteers, The Forest Service and several counties for ther last several years, one can now hike to the Tavern & Inn location which is being reconstructed as funds permit on the orginal foundations that somehow avoided the dynamite. Will the Incline Railway be restored next? Portions of the grade have been cleared of brush and numerous landslides to date, beyond that, no one's talking. Dave [8D]
QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: "Patton" tells the tale of General George S. Patton, famous tank commander of World War II. The film begins with Patton's career in North Africa and progresses through the invasion of Germany and the fall of the Third Reich. Side plots also speak of Patton's numerous faults such his temper and habit towards insubordination. Faults which would, eventually, lead to his being relieved as Occupation Commander of Germany.
QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Oberst Steiner, a German parachute unit commander, is sent to England on a covert mission to kidnap Prime Minister Winston Churchill and bring him to Berlin. The seemingly impossible assignment becomes more and more feasible as the mission grows nearer with Steiner and his men arriving in England to a very real possibility of success.
QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly The Stooges are three Union spies who infiltrate the Confederate headquarters of General Butts. They manage to trick him into revealing the Southern army's true strength, but are later exposed as spies and have to make a run for it.
QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Based on a true story, "The Great Escape" deals with the largest Allied escape attempt from a German POW camp during the Second World War. The first part of the film focuses on the escape efforts within the camp and the process of secretly digging an escape tunnel. The second half of the film deals with the massive effort by the German Gestapo to track down the over 70 escaped prisoners who are at this point throughout the Third Reich attempting to make their way to England and various neutral countries.
QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: England in June 1944. Unseasonal storms. Allied troops are massed ready for the invasion of France, some already on the boats. The Normandy beaches will be their destination while paratroopers are dropped inland to take key towns and bridges. On the other side of the Channel the Germans still expect the invasion at Calais, and anyway the weather makes them think nothing is likely to be imminent. Eisenhower decides to go. Hitler sleeps on.
QUOTE: PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry and Curly Moe, Larry and Curly are carpenters installing a door at Mr. Jone's drugstore. Jones leaves the boys in charge while he tries to settle a liquor delivery problem. The liquor salesman comes in and asks the Stooges to make him a "pick me up," which they mix up themselves in the back in an old boot. The Stooges' concoction knocks his hat off, and the salesman is convinced that the new drink will bring a fortune. He then tries to pass the Stooges off as the Scottish whiskey makers McSniff, McSnuff and McSnort at a party in his boss's home.
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