CSSHEGEWISCH The road in question is the Piedmont & Northern, a former interurban which dieselized with an all-Alco roster and was later absorbed by SCL. It operated two separate divisions, one in North Carolina and one in South Carolina. A proposed connection between the two divisions was never built. The mills in the slogan are textile mills.
The road in question is the Piedmont & Northern, a former interurban which dieselized with an all-Alco roster and was later absorbed by SCL. It operated two separate divisions, one in North Carolina and one in South Carolina. A proposed connection between the two divisions was never built. The mills in the slogan are textile mills.
That's the one. The 89 mile South Carolina Div ran between Greenwood and Spartanburg. The 23 mile North Carolina Div ran between Gastonia and Charlotte. Between Spartanburg and Gastonia there was a gap of 50+ miles between the two Divisions. Unlike most interurbans the Piedmont & Northern had a significant carload freight business and continued to operate long after its passenger service was discontinued..
Mark
Piedmont & Northern equipment can be found at the North Carolina Transporation Museum, The Charlotte Trolley Museum and the South Carolina Railroad Museum.
My mind runs wild on this having just driven through New England...but my real thoughts turn toward Pittsburgh, PA and maybe the Monongahela or the Interstate. Unusual? Only moved cars between mills and parts of mills with minimum interchange. And probably owned by one of the steele companies like US Steele or Bethlehem.
OR ACY! Almost the same reasons!
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"A Mill to the Mile" was an advertising slogan used by what railroad?
What was unusual about this railroad?
Mark, yes your turn.
CSX ought to serve Xenia to justify the X in its unrailroady name.
http://trains.rockycrater.org/graphics/pfmsig/atlas48/oh-1948.jpg
Xenia, Youngstown and Zanesville, Ohio all three were served by both the B&O and the Pennsy.
Name 2 railroads that, in one state, served 3 cities that start with X, Y and Z.
wanswheel Overland Limited on Dec. 19, 1916. GM was Bill Jeffers.
Overland Limited on Dec. 19, 1916. GM was Bill Jeffers.
So what we going to research next?
http://npcanteen.net/ca02009.html
daveklepper Interesting material. Were the Stillwell commuter cars used by the C&WI built new for the C&WI or second-hand or leased from the Erie? They were identacle to the Erie's commuter cars used out of Jersey City.
Interesting material.
Were the Stillwell commuter cars used by the C&WI built new for the C&WI or second-hand or leased from the Erie? They were identacle to the Erie's commuter cars used out of Jersey City.
CWI's Stillwell coaches were second-hand from Erie. They lasted until 1964 when the last commuter runs to Dolton were discontinued.
So here we go. It was one of the worst winters as far as amount of snow fall recorded in the US. According to a local news paper, "during the country's worst storm" a freight train had been stopped because of the snow. A plow was called out to help. Unknown to the plow crew another train had gotten between them and the stalled freight. The other train was compelled to stop for the stalled freighter. The snow plow train rear ended the train stopped in the blizzard. According to the news paper story the observation car was totally demolished and ended up nearly on top of the plow. "The other cars of the train were so tightly wedged it took some time to pull them apart".
Fortunately because of the late hour no one was in the observation car and there were no injuries.
Name that train and date and since we are on a personnel theme who was the General Manager who was in charge of the cleanup.
TZ , yes your turn.
http://collections.mnhs.org/visualresources/image.cfm?imageid=128671
http://collections.mnhs.org/visualresources/image.cfm?imageid=128673
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LAMB: What was you first job?
STASSEN: My first job? As a pullman conductor on a railroad, to earn my way through law school.
LAMB: What was that like?
STASSEN: Oh, that was interesting. I ran, what they do then, they call running wild all over the country, on the extra board in summer. You go to Chicago, and from Chicago, you're sent all over according to when, where they need an extra conductor, and that was a terrific experience.
wanswheelWho was the conductor on the first run of the Morning Hiawatha (eastbound) on January 21, 1939?
wanswheel Who was the conductor on the first run of the Morning Hiawatha (eastbound) on January 21, 1939? http://www.minnesotajones.com/hiawatha_page.htm
Who was the conductor on the first run of the Morning Hiawatha (eastbound) on January 21, 1939?
http://www.minnesotajones.com/hiawatha_page.htm
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We have a winner!! BRC did purchase its line of railway in 1962. As an aside, BRC also had trackage rights over CWI separate from this lease.
Wanswheel, your question.
Excerpt from Report of The Board of Directors of The Chicago & Western Indiana Railroad Company to the Stockholders for the Year Ended December 31, 1912
On November 1, 1912, a new lease was entered into with The Belt Railway Company of Chicago, leasing to the Belt Company the line of railway of the Western Indiana known as its Belt Division, extending from Cragin to South Chicago, together with the railroad, clearing yard, and other property of the Chicago Union Transfer Company, above referred to, including a tract of land approximately twelve hundred feet in width and two miles in length between Pullman Junction and South Deering, upon which is to be constructed a general classification and clearing yard for the use of the Belt Company.
The rights of The Belt Railway Company are now derived entirely from this new lease, provision being made therein, in accordance with the terms of the First and Refunding Mortgage, for the termination of all rights under prior existing leases between it and the Chicago & Western Indiana Railroad Company. The Belt Company, therefore, obtains all its rights over Western Indiana property now used by it from the new lease. This lease expires September 1, 1962, the date of expiration being co-incident with the date of maturity of the First and Refunding Mortgage Gold Bonds. The Belt Company is given the option at the expiration of the term, provided that the three mortgages of the Western Indiana, to-wit: the General Mortgage, Consolidated Mortgage and the First and Refunding Mortgage, shall at that date have been satisfied and discharged, to acquire upon prior notice of one year, the Belt Railway with all additions, alterations and improvements for a certain fixed sum, plus the principal sums of all bonds or other obligations of the Western Indiana, then outstanding, the proceeds of which shall have been used for the acquisition of the property and franchises of the Chicago Union Transfer Company, and for other additions, improvements, betterments and extensions made after May 11, 1911, to the Belt Railway at the request or approval of the Belt Company and for the exclusive use of the Belt Company; its sub-lessees or assigns
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daveklepper Did they pool power? Pool crews?
Did they pool power? Pool crews?
Each had its own power. CWI was noted for its RS1's which switched Dearborn Station and hauled its suburban trains. Operationally, they were completely separate. The connection between the two is not very visible.
KCSfan Both the C&WI and the BRC shared a common set of officers from President on down. I'm not sure if this is the answer you're looking for however since you mentioned their common ownership in your original question. Mark
Both the C&WI and the BRC shared a common set of officers from President on down. I'm not sure if this is the answer you're looking for however since you mentioned their common ownership in your original question.
Not quite, that's probably due to the overlapping ownership. It's more subtle and less visible than that.
daveklepper One of the bridges across the Chicago River?
One of the bridges across the Chicago River?
Neither CWI nor BRC crossed the Chicago River. BRC does cross the Sanitary & Ship Canal, but that's not the same body of water.
daveklepper Were they both part ownders of Clearing? Or of something else?
Were they both part ownders of Clearing? Or of something else?
You're on the right course.
NKP and B&O did not have access to Clearing since they were non-owners of BRC. The link between C&WI and BRC does not directly involve operations.
Didn't the Erie, the Grand Trunk Western, the C&O, and possibly the NKP and B&O all use the C&WI to access Clearing Yard?
Other than overlapping ownership, what was the long-time link between the Chicago & Western Indiana RR and the Belt Railway of Chicago?
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