Buck, close also counts in dancing. (Missed seeing you in Jacksonville last weekend, by the way.)
Shooting from the hip, I'd say ACL, SAL and PRR
Bob Hanson, Loganville, GA
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Question: Who were the first 3 major shareholders of FRUIT GROWERS EXPRESS? Chicago & Eastern Illinoise, New Haven and the N&W?
Question: Who were the first 3 major shareholders of FRUIT GROWERS EXPRESS?
Chicago & Eastern Illinoise, New Haven and the N&W?
How about WP, NP, and GN?
FlyingCrow Wow...I thought "close" only counted in horseshoe's , hand grenades, and depth charges ! Question: Who were the first 3 major shareholders of FRUIT GROWERS EXPRESS?
Wow...I thought "close" only counted in horseshoe's , hand grenades, and depth charges !
Johnny
ZephyrOverland For a brief period, the B&O had a "mini-fleet" of sorts, in that they ran several "regional" trains on the Royal Blue Line that had similar names. One of the train names was reused on a B&O long-distance train several years later. What were the name of the three trains?
For a brief period, the B&O had a "mini-fleet" of sorts, in that they ran several "regional" trains on the Royal Blue Line that had similar names. One of the train names was reused on a B&O long-distance train several years later. What were the name of the three trains?
The answers I was looking for were;
National Express
National Special
National Limited
All three trains operated between Jersey City and Washington around the 1917-1918 period. When the railroads were taken over by the USRA, the names were dropped. Only the National Limited name was resurrected as a Jersey City-St. Louis train in 1925.
FlyingCrow inadvertently mentioned the National Limited as a sidebar in his answer so he has the honor of asking the next question.
Take it away FlyingCrow!
Ill give this another day before I give the answer.
FlyingCrow I ...think.... Royal Blue Royal Special Royal Limited...which became B&O #1 & 2; the National Limited.
I ...think....
Royal Blue
Royal Special
Royal Limited...which became B&O #1 & 2; the National Limited.
A very good guess - the only problem is that the Royal Blue did not exist as a passenger train name until the 1930's, whereas the other two names existed 20 years earlier. The names I'm looking for did exist concurrently. But you're barking up the right tree.
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Congratulations Zephyr, your are correct! The Old Union Station as it bacame known after the opening of Cleveland Union Terminal, was located on Clevelands lakefront off W 6th St. Shared by the PRR (owner) and the NYC until the NYC finally decided to move to the new CUT built by the VanSweringin brothers. Passenger service remained until September 1953 then eventually it was tore down in 1959.
It was built in 1866 after the original 1854 station burnt down. It was ugly when it was new, and got even uglier. Cleveland was the home to 60 business that called the city their world headquarters and they were embarrased about what was, for many years, Clevelands main passenger facility used by the two biggest railroads.
Today Cleveland is home to only a handful of business headquarters. So, GO Tribe, Go Browns, Go Cav's...go somewhere. Thats what I like about following this thread, everyone can teach one another about their local knowlegde or favorite railroad's interesting past.
So, the next ones yours...go at it!!
Based on what was said in earlier posts, could the answer be Cleveland Union Station (not Terminal) what was used by the PRR and the NYC (at least the Big 4 and Lake Shore and Michigan Southern) and was torn down in 1959?
You guys are moving in on the answer. The city and the involved railroads have all been mentioned, now just put the right combination together.
Previous post should read "I read somewhere..."
I just washed my hands and can't do a thing with them.
Are you thinking about Cleveland? The NYC and NKP had a joint depot that was definitely in the urban blight category.
I believe I read somehwee that when it caught fire a crowd gathered and cheered.
Good guess, but I don't think they put up quite the stink about things as this city did. In addition to the billboard was a postcard asking for the same consideration. Clues;
1. The involved railroads, when they moved in together were definately the Odd Couple.
2. If this city had a billboard today it would probably ask visitors not to judge them by their sport teams.
I hope you're right Dave, because that thought passed through my mind too!
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The old PRR station in Newark before the present Penn Station, used by PRR and LV?
Congratulations you got one of the three. As to the city it was not Pittsburgh. The station I am refering to was permanent facility that was around for quite some time before finally being put to rest.
K4sPRR Ok, here's the next one. Two major US railroads shared a passenger facility in a large industrial city. This particular depot was in such deplorable condition that local business's erected a bill board near the depot asking visitors not to judge their city by the condition of the passenger station. What was the city, and who were the railroads involved?
Ok, here's the next one. Two major US railroads shared a passenger facility in a large industrial city. This particular depot was in such deplorable condition that local business's erected a bill board near the depot asking visitors not to judge their city by the condition of the passenger station. What was the city, and who were the railroads involved?
I'm going to guess - Pittsburgh with the PRR and PRR West Lines concerning their "temporary" station - the one built after the railroad riots in the 1870s(?), not the one that is currently standing.
K4sPRR, yes your turn. Frisco thought Seabiscuit was two words.
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Since Mike has not responded, I will go with K4sPRR since the Frisco named many of its diesel locomotives after race horses.
Southern Pacific?
Frisco.
Nope.
Since the Long Island Rail Road served Belmont Park, that would ordinarily be my first choice. However, | doubt the LIRR ever named locomotives. In that respect, they followed PRR practice. I think, however, that both the Florida East Coast and the Kansas City Southern at one time or another named locomotives, diesels as well as steam,, after race hourses. I will choose the latter, for the present. Possibly the Louisville and Nashville did also. But I will stick with KCS for the moment!
What railroad named a locomotive for Seabiscuit?
Seabiscuit at Elmont, NY (Belmont Park) in 1938
Mike
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