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Posted by Jones1945 on Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:51 PM

Does that mean I need to provide more detail on Overmod's answer or I can ask the next question now? Blindfold Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:43 PM

To move this along, the road I had in mind was Rock Island. And now I can't find the source that documented it.

Time we gave Jones 1945 a seat in Puzzler Tower.  (And if he does not know the other details of that Scranton-Carbondale service, he has a treat in store...)

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, September 26, 2018 1:41 PM

Overmod,since no one else has come up with an answer, I'll try two "educated guesses."

The D&H had some open-platform cars definitely with roller bearing in Scranton - Carbondale service.  I don't know if the trucks were wood, though.

The Canadian National took over the Quebec - St. Joaquim interurban from Quebec Railway Light and Power, which was the only connection between its line from St. Joaquim to Murrey Bey and the rest of its system at Quebec.  It may have put roller bearings in the duck-bill roofed Jackson and Sharp open-platform trailers, with wood trucks.

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:51 PM

The one I'm thinking of was definitely a Class I at the time.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:48 PM

Overmod
I wonder if any technical documentation has survived.

The ones I'm thinking of were used in reasonably high-speed service, with the wood trucks probably retained due to parsimony and the roller bearings furnished in them due to near necessity.

 

Kind of sounds like an interurban(or streetcar company) in the 1920's. No money for major improvements but creative shop forces using available resources to produce needed equipment.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:30 PM

Thank you, Overmod. If our forumer able to find Overmod's examples, I am willing to pass my right to him or her for asking the next question CoffeeSmile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:43 AM

I learn something every day.  That Feather River example is certainly in or at least near the era for the ones I was looking for...

But weren't the Connecticut River bearings ball rather than roller?  I wonder if any technical documentation has survived.

The ones I'm thinking of were used in reasonably high-speed service, with the wood trucks probably retained due to parsimony and the roller bearings furnished in them due to near necessity.

Jones1945 already earns the right to ask a question, as he found undeniable examples that satisfied the criteria as asked.  But I don't want to cut off discussion until the examples I had in mind have been 'discovered'.

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Posted by rcdrye on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:17 AM

In the late 1960s Western Pacific borrowed Nevada Northern's steam crane which had arch bar trucks with wooden spring planks and stuck roller bearing journals in its pedestals. Not completely wood...  The Connecticut River Railroad tried some bearings out in the late 1850s that were successful enough to leave on the test car, but not to duplicate.  Lack of dust seals and poor lubrication didn't make them more attractive than the usual bronze journal of the day.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, September 10, 2018 7:51 PM

Tell me what cars they were installed on.

I was thinking of a different service, which I had been assuming used two-axle trucks.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Monday, September 10, 2018 11:13 AM

Overmod

Strangely, I have something.

Tell me who used roller bearings in wood frame trucks. 

Does this count?

Pullman had a truck model named "106 Wood Reinforced Wood Beam 6-Wheel Trucks", it had Roller Bearing version.

 

WalthersProto's HO scale part:

Pullman 106W Reinforced Wood Beam 6-Wheel Trucks -- Roller Bearing 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, September 9, 2018 6:10 PM

Strangely, I have something.

Tell me who used roller bearings in wood frame trucks.

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:07 PM

Overmod-- you are up! 

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, September 6, 2018 4:45 PM

rcdrye

Kenova and Texarkana still have Amtrak trains (Only Texarkana has a station stop. Station for Kenova is at Ashland KY).

Former Amtrak service through (but not stopping at) Uvada, Calada (Desert Wind) and Alaga (Floridian)

 

Right on! and I have been through them all on Amtrak trains--+ Alaga and TennGa before 4/30/71 (I also went through Kenova on both toads back then). I missed all the rest.

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Posted by rcdrye on Thursday, September 6, 2018 4:15 PM

Kenova and Texarkana still have Amtrak trains (Only Texarkana has a station stop. Station for Kenova is at Ashland KY).

Former Amtrak service through (but not stopping at) Uvada, Calada (Desert Wind) and Alaga (Floridian)

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, September 6, 2018 3:34 PM

This was a bit tougher than I had thought it would be. SInce I am taking off a trip soo, here is my list with the names of you have found places. All are listed in the February, 1953 Guide.

Florala (Fla & Ala) (L&N and CG) Overmod

Alaga (Ala & Ga)--(ACL Bowline)

Tenn Ga (Tenn & Ga) L&N Knoxville and Marietta

Virgilina (Va and N C) (Danville & Western (SOU)) Jones 1945

Pen-Mar (Penn and Md) Geoff5 (1st); Jones 1945 (2nd)

Texarkana (Tex and Ark) Overmod (KCS, MP, T&P, Cotton Belt; )

Texhoma (Tex and Okla) (RI) Overmod 

Texola (Tex and Okla) (RI)

Calexico (Cal. and Mexico) (SP and Inter California) Erikem

Mexicali (Cal. and Mexico) (SP and Inter California) Erikem

Kenova (Ky, O, & Va) (C&O & N&W) CSS Hegewisch--now in W Va and not Va. Should I gig you for saying "B&O?"Smile

Arkana (Ark and La) (Cotton Belt)

Moark (MP)

Kanorado (Kan and Col) (RI) Jeff Hergert

Delmar (Del and Md) (PRR) Overmod

Monida (Mont and Id) UP

Arkmo (Ark and Mo) (Frisco)

Calada (Cal & Nev) (UP)

Calneva (Cal & Nev) (WP)

Penndel (Pa & Del) (see Langhorne, Pa PRR & Read) Overmod

Marydel (Md & Del) (PRR0 Overmod

Arkhoma (Ark & Okla) (next door to Ft. Smith, Ark) (KCS, Ark & Mo. & Ft Smith) Johne 1945

Uvada (Ut & Nev) (UP) Erikem

Overmod found/remembered more than anybody else.

It is currently possible to go through two these on passenger trains; Amtrak formerly went through three others.

 

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Posted by rcdrye on Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:14 PM

Deggesty
 
CSSHEGEWISCH

Kenova WV, served by CSX/C&O

 

 

 

I wondered when someone would find this one. Now, what are the states? (This one is different from the others, not only because of the number of states, but also for another reason).

 

 

Kentucky, Ohio and Virginia.  Founded in 1859, it predates West Virginia by a bit.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:34 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

Kenova WV, served by CSX/C&O

 

I wondered when someone would find this one. Now, what are the states? (This one is different from the others, not only because of the number of states, but also for another reason).

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, September 5, 2018 10:03 AM

Kenova WV, served by CSX/C&O

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, September 4, 2018 9:06 PM

Kanorado, Kansas.  Now on the Kyle RR, formerly on the Rock Island.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Monday, September 3, 2018 3:30 PM

Yeah!Yes Thanks for that! I found some names where the towns or places are too far away from train station so I didn't post them. 

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, September 3, 2018 2:26 PM

Arkoma--right across the state line from Fort Smith. As well as I can tell it never had any rail service directly, but being adjacent to Fort Smith (which had several roads serving it), it is allowable. It is primarily a bedroom town for people who work in Fort Smith.

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Posted by Jones1945 on Monday, September 3, 2018 2:05 PM

Arkoma, Oklahoma (State of Arkansas + State of Oklahoma), served by Arkansas and Missouri Railroad, Kansas City Southern Railway and Fort Smith Railroad.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, September 3, 2018 11:27 AM

Amtrak currently serves two of these places--one of which is  no longer in the state that provided part of its name.

Two others had Amtrak trains passing through them without stopping , but have no passenger trains now.

Ten (including two I did not have,) have been named. My total count is now still 22, since I counted Calexico and Mexicali twice.

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, September 2, 2018 7:45 AM

GeoffS

Correct as far as it goes.  But, if I read the original question

correctly, there must be more of them out there!
GS

 

Yes, there are several more; indeed, Overmod came up with two that I had missed--PennDel and Marydel (there is also a Marydel in Kansas, but it does not count).

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Posted by GeoffS on Sunday, September 2, 2018 2:07 AM

Correct as far as it goes.  But, if I read the original question

correctly, there must be more of them out there!
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Posted by Jones1945 on Saturday, September 1, 2018 12:24 PM

Ok thanks, I think I got it .... 

-Pen Mar, Maryland  (Western Maryland Railway, B&O)

Pen is short form of Pennsylvania, Mar is short form of Marryland, correct? CoffeeLaugh

-Virgilina, Virginia (Virgilina, North Carolina) - Southern Railway

Virgilina Station

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMJAD_Southern_Railway_Station_Virgilina_VA

 

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Posted by GeoffS on Saturday, September 1, 2018 12:06 PM

Can we add one name at a time to come up with one big list?

Just south of me is Pen-Mar Maryland.  It was WM now CSX.

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Posted by erikem on Saturday, September 1, 2018 12:04 PM

Calexico was on the SP, and Mexicali was on the SPdeM (IIRC).

Uvada was on the LA&SL, now UP.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, September 1, 2018 10:21 AM

Try again with these examples:

Florala had CofG, L&N, and logging railroads

http://www.floralahistory.com/105-2/

Penndel had the Reading, and traction:

http://penndelboro.com/our-history/

Delmar had the Delaware Railroad (now Delmarva Central)

Marydel HAD a railroad; now they have a historic trust:

https://mht.maryland.gov/secure/medusa/PDF/Caroline/CAR-374.pdf

Texarkana everybody knows.

Texico is ATSF, now BNSF

Texhoma (Rock Island, now Union Pacific)

 

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Posted by Jones1945 on Saturday, September 1, 2018 9:34 AM

OK, please let me try one more time. 

Indiana, Indiana County, Pennsylvania. Served by B&O (Baltimore and Ohio Railroad)

Indiana

State of Indiana - Wikipedia

I
ndiana:

Indiana, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia

Stick out tongue


 

 

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