SD70DudeI wonder how any new protests will look in this time of the pandemic
It's already happening: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/05/15/siou-m15.html
I said "recently", Charlie. You wrote of today's colleges.
National Post = Conservative, though not nearly as partisan or overtly as Fox News (we had our own version of that, Sun News Network, it didn't last long). They have a big focus on the business side of things, which pot is now a part of up here.
Globe & Mail = Liberal. Has been that way since the days of Edward Blake and Sir John A. MacDonald.
Global and CTV usually fall somewhere in between, with a greater focus on local news.
Despite being a Crown Corporation, the CBC's investigative reporters can be quite critical of the Government at times.
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
Miningman
Don't forget the Polar Bears.
And the Mosquitoes. We have an infinite supply to replace combat losses. And they aren't made of wood.
The RCAF has also formed a top notch flying spy squadron. The are known as "Black Flies", and are even more numerous than the Mosquitoes........
Gramp Miningman, beware those with recently minted degrees. Many have been indoctrinated. They and only they decide what is humorous.
Miningman, beware those with recently minted degrees. Many have been indoctrinated. They and only they decide what is humorous.
Beware of those who think they are clever but are in error. My degrees are from years ago pal. Probably back before yours (if any) or MM's.
It's not funny. At most colleges, such remarks would be censured, especially at one with a largely minority student body.
Thank you Overmod. Of course it's humour!
For Charlie... (you need to relax man!)
1) https://m.imgur.com/5iQOEjl
2) https://m.imgur.com/VGhKEZx
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4) Here this will make you feel better.
charlie hebdoYour post reeks of a racist nativism inappropriate for a teacher.
Trust me, the Miningman's no racist. If he was he wouldn't be where he is.
You'd trust me even more if you knew his background as I do, which I'm not at liberty to discuss.
Shots like that are unworthy of you Charlie.
MiningmanWell the Chinese will invade and just wipe out everyone and take the 2nd largest country in the world bordering on three oceans and chalk full of natural resources. ..." bunch of silly Baizuo" , won't think a moment about it. Keep many nubile women though, they have a shortage.
This was actually howlingly funny, considering how the Europeans dealt with the Native Americans in so much of what became the United States. It could almost be thought of as a kind of karma.
What was the old post-holocaust SF story where the native American chief (with a name like Three Hydrogen Bombs) sees the last of the bankrupt and radiation-sick 'whites' onto the last ship leaving for Europe?
Flintlock76Don't worry. If that happens the Pentagon will pull out and dust off the "Invasion of Canada" plans and put 'em in use.
There are those who feel the military base near me exists for exactly that reason....
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
OK aren't we diverging from the topic of Trains just a little...lol.
Miningman Well the Chinese will invade and just wipe out everyone and take the 2nd largest country in the world bordering on three oceans and chalk full of natural resources. ..." bunch of silly Baizuo" , won't think a moment about it. Keep many nubile women though, they have a shortage. So how many troops can you stow away in a ( specially equipped) container on those stacked high and wide container ships. 2 in Vancouver, 2 in Prince Rupert , 2 in Halifax, maybe even Churchill ( would have to be something different than containers) . 2 more incoming right behind those arrived and 2 more on the way for each location. Tanks and equipment in the hull. It would take about a week and it's over. They have plenty of places to sleep because they already own half the country. The USA will be paid to look the other way and future considerations. Oh well. All these perfect uptoias throughout history shine as bright stars, think City States, and then they go super nova . We are next. Ka-Boom. Charlie--- wrong .. way more liberal columnists than conservative , only Conrad Black and I suppose Rex Murphy left. It's a pot paper.. always pushing pot investments, recipes, rankings by devotees of the bud. Check CBC, CTV, Global, Toronto Star, Globe and Mail... all the same column.
Well the Chinese will invade and just wipe out everyone and take the 2nd largest country in the world bordering on three oceans and chalk full of natural resources. ..." bunch of silly Baizuo" , won't think a moment about it. Keep many nubile women though, they have a shortage.
So how many troops can you stow away in a ( specially equipped) container on those stacked high and wide container ships. 2 in Vancouver, 2 in Prince Rupert , 2 in Halifax, maybe even Churchill ( would have to be something different than containers) . 2 more incoming right behind those arrived and 2 more on the way for each location. Tanks and equipment in the hull. It would take about a week and it's over. They have plenty of places to sleep because they already own half the country.
The USA will be paid to look the other way and future considerations.
Oh well.
All these perfect uptoias throughout history shine as bright stars, think City States, and then they go super nova . We are next. Ka-Boom.
Charlie--- wrong .. way more liberal columnists than conservative , only Conrad Black and I suppose Rex Murphy left. It's a pot paper.. always pushing pot investments, recipes, rankings by devotees of the bud.
Check CBC, CTV, Global, Toronto Star, Globe and Mail... all the same column.
Your post reeks of a racist nativism inappropriate for a teacher.
MiningmanWell the Chinese will invade and just wipe out everyone and take the 2nd largest country in the world bordering on three oceans and chalk full of natural resources. ..." bunch of silly Baizuo"
Don't worry. If that happens the Pentagon will pull out and dust off the "Invasion of Canada" plans and put 'em in use.
What? You folks think we don't have one? Hey, military planners and staffers aren't paid to sit around and do nothing. They come up with operational plans to be filed "Just in case" no matter how implausible the scenario to keep busy and besides, you never know, do you?
There's one for Mexico too. Count on it.
MiningmanSo the railroads were blockaded because of internal squabbles ..and then stupid ignorant morons made up stories and got bunches of people all across the land to blockade our rails, hurt our economy, disrupt peoples plans.
Sounds more or less like the controversy over enhanced-radiation weapons in the '80s. Take this stupid-ignorant-moron test: What does a neutron bomb do?
22,000 sq kms of land, that's 7 square kms for every person in the band. ... and only 640 tribal bands to go yet.
But this completely begs the real question: they were here first and it was theirs to do with as they saw fit. Where the fun starts is when the Wet'suwet'en start deciding precisely what to do with the encroaching squatters who have gotten on it in the meantime.
In practice, I don't expect them to demand payment or 'rent' for the land. But what I do expect them to do is get 100% of the ongoing property tax ... none to Canada, of course, and none to provincial or local-town governments. (Perhaps the governments can arrange to keep the tax on the property improvements, which is where I've always maintained the actual "taxable value" ought to reside ... but this gets rid of a few useful conspiracies/scams generally benefiting big houses on postage-stamp plots as seen in Hudson and Bergen Counties.)
That is when we'll see how the politicians resolve their little pork-on-sale controversy over First Nation rights and privileges... and what a great number of personally-affected voters decide to do about the governing class that handed them this situation. That's the beauty part -- Canadians will continue to elect the democracy they deserve.
The National Post is known as a very conservative rag that engages in reporting inaccurately or even falsely. Also a reputation for an anti-Islamic bias with a famously made up anti-Iran story in 2006.
So the railroads were blockaded because of internal squabbles ..and then stupid ignorant morons made up stories and got bunches of people all across the land to blockade our rails, hurt our economy, disrupt peoples plans.
https://nationalpost.com/news/they-created-a-problem-chiefs-say-trudeau-liberals-wetsuweten-deal-opens-up-fresh-conflicts
Tying this in with the other thread, let's go to the mall! (c'mon, you know the words!)
What a great show that was. Lots of inside jokes about Canadians.
Barney turned out to be part Canadian too.
Those guys look like zero fun.
This is better
Saw a Picard/Riker campaign bumper sticker the other day.
The picture is of Chief Woos.
There are a couple of highly interesting sections in that MoU.
(And some highly Klingonish names, now that you bring it up... no, I take that back, TV SF writers are seldom that imaginative.)
Note how carefully they dance around the issue of what happens after the First Nations group decides on its 'government structure' to administer the lands. Or what 'fair compensation' might mean in that context...
zugmann SD70Dude Kirk would give up on talking after a few minutes, and run them over. Picard would deftly manipulate them into signing a favourable agreement, which they would end up thinking was their idea in the first place. Riker would have just dated them.
SD70Dude Kirk would give up on talking after a few minutes, and run them over. Picard would deftly manipulate them into signing a favourable agreement, which they would end up thinking was their idea in the first place.
Riker would have just dated them.
Kirk would probably have tried that too. But Shatner is Canadian, so they may have recognized him as being up to no good.
SD70DudeKirk would give up on talking after a few minutes, and run them over. Picard would deftly manipulate them into signing a favourable agreement, which they would end up thinking was their idea in the first place.
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Miningman So all these rail blockades across the entire country because of five people. It's like a Star Trek episode or something!
So all these rail blockades across the entire country because of five people. It's like a Star Trek episode or something!
Kirk would give up on talking after a few minutes, and run them over.
Picard would deftly manipulate them into signing a favourable agreement, which they would end up thinking was their idea in the first place.
The Vulcans would mull over how logical the Native land claim is, but also how illogical the protesters are acting.
The Klingons or Romulans wouldn't have even tried talking.
The Borg would assimilate them, there would be no more Natives or European-Canadians, only Borg.
I wonder how any new protests will look in this time of the pandemic. Kind of hard to form a human chain while staying 6 feet apart.
More info : released last night
The agreement--
http://www.wetsuweten.com/files/DRAFT_MOU_AGREEMENT.pdf
Further from the Wet'suwet'an
http://www.wetsuweten.com/media-centre/news/memorandum-of-understanding-wetsuweten-hereditary-chiefs-bc-and-canada-re-wetsuweten-title
Latest writeup National Post
https://nationalpost.com/news/wetsuweten-deal-recognizes-rights-and-title-sets-stage-for-ongong-talks
Get off my lawn!
My lawn is vast, as far as the eye can see and beyond.
Miningman Finally a wee trickle of information. The Wet'suwet'en now say the "Process by which the proposed memorandum of understanding was achieved is unacceptable" . So they haven't even gone beyond a memorandum of understanding as far as the Elected Chiefs are concerned . They want the process to start all over again, this time including the Elected Chiefs. The existing memoradum as signed has nothing to do with the pipeline and everything to do with addressing land rights and title more broadly. Well now! Of course it does ! I would think "more broadly defined land titles and rights" mean a good sized chunk of British Columbia and it will set a precedent for all the other 100 or so bands in BC to lay claim to the entire province and then some! I was mocked for saying this but the future for property owners in BC is going to be very grim. You might own your house or your business but you ain't gonna own da land! The implications are beyond huge and is exactly the kind of thing the Trudeau government seeks to see, upend it all, show the world how progressive and perfect things will be. https://nationalpost.com/news/wetsuweten-elected-chiefs-call-on-crown-indigenous-relations-minister-to-resign#comments-area
Finally a wee trickle of information.
The Wet'suwet'en now say the "Process by which the proposed memorandum of understanding was achieved is unacceptable" .
So they haven't even gone beyond a memorandum of understanding as far as the Elected Chiefs are concerned . They want the process to start all over again, this time including the Elected Chiefs.
The existing memoradum as signed has nothing to do with the pipeline and everything to do with addressing land rights and title more broadly.
Well now! Of course it does ! I would think "more broadly defined land titles and rights" mean a good sized chunk of British Columbia and it will set a precedent for all the other 100 or so bands in BC to lay claim to the entire province and then some!
I was mocked for saying this but the future for property owners in BC is going to be very grim. You might own your house or your business but you ain't gonna own da land! The implications are beyond huge and is exactly the kind of thing the Trudeau government seeks to see, upend it all, show the world how progressive and perfect things will be.
https://nationalpost.com/news/wetsuweten-elected-chiefs-call-on-crown-indigenous-relations-minister-to-resign#comments-area
So, as I understand, the process for the discussions was not correctly executed, so now it has to be done over.
This post-blockade phase began with an offer by the government, but the offer has never been made public.
The offer apparently is more about a larger issue of land rights rather than the pipeline.
How long will it take the Trudeau government correct the process for discussion that was not correctly executed, and once that is done, how long will it take for the indigenous government to decide whether to accept the new process for discussion?
If land title is taken away from existing holders, will they be compensated by the Trudeau government?
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