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Classic Train Questions Part Deux (50 Years or Older)

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 7:48 PM

I am enjoying the 20 Question format very much but may I make a suggestion...When setting up the question the first several questions are geographical. So why not get rid of the first several (predictable) questions right off the bat with, the fact that it is east/west or whatever and is located east or west of the Mississippi.  Those questions are always asked so why not make it a full 20 questions instead of 18?

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:28 PM

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Mark, did the train operate (in whole or in part) over one or more predecessor railroads to today's Norfolk Southern?   -  a.s.

(5) Yes

Mark

Al,

I just realized that my answer to this question might midlead you and others. I'll qualify my answer by saying that the small portion of this trains former route that remains in service today is a part of the Norfolk Southern.

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:07 PM

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Did any part of the train's normal run take place under catenary or next to third-rail, regardless of whether the motive power for the train was steam, diesel, electric, some hybrid, or different types of motive power for different stretches of its run? 

(7) No

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 5:44 PM

Did any part of the train's normal run take place under catenary or next to third-rail, regardless of whether the motive power for the train was steam, diesel, electric, some hybrid, or different types of motive power for different stretches of its run?  

 

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 5:16 PM

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Mark

Was the train streamlined?

Al

(6) No

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 5:15 PM

al-in-chgo

Mark, did the train operate (in whole or in part) over one or more predecessor railroads to today's Norfolk Southern?   -  a.s.

(5) Yes

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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 4:55 PM

Mark

Was the train streamlined?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 4:18 PM

Mark, did the train operate (in whole or in part) over one or more predecessor railroads to today's Norfolk Southern?   -  a.s.

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 3:17 PM

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Mark, did the train run in the South (south of the Ohio and Potomac rivers)?

(5) No

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 3:15 PM

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Was one of the terminal cities Detroit?

(4) No

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 2:55 PM

Mark, did the train run in the South (south of the Ohio and Potomac rivers)?

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 2:52 PM

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Johnny, I hope to learn what city on the NC&StL map the sleepers were set out for.

Mike, Chattanooga was the set-out city.

Going from Atlanta, the train crossed Tennessee five times, Georgia four times, and Alabama once; with the exception of the west end of the Alabama crossing, all of these were close to Chattanooga. Even now, I-24 dips down into Georgia on its way from Nashville to Chattanooga. 

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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 2:40 PM

Was one of the terminal cities Detroit?

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 1:55 PM
wanswheel

Mark, is the route more than 500 miles?

(3) No

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 1:54 PM

passengerfan

Did the train operate in a North-South direction? 

(2) Yes

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Posted by wanswheel on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 1:40 PM

Mark, is the route more than 500 miles?

Johnny, I hope to learn what city on the NC&StL map the sleepers were set out for.

http://railga.com/ncsl95map.html

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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 1:02 PM

Did the train operate in a North-South direction? 

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 11:55 AM

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Did the train operate east of the Mississippi River?

(1) Yes

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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 10:40 AM

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Deggesty

I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult?

Johnny

That would have made it more difficult for me. Because it is only 134 rail miles between Atlanta and Chattanooga, I had a hard time imagining there would be a sleeper running only between the two cities. The same is true of the Chattanooga - Nashville route which is only 152 miles in length.

On to the next one. You have 20 questions to identify the train I have in mind, the end points of its route and the RR(s) over which it ran.

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Did the train operate east of the Mississippi River?

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Posted by KCSfan on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 10:01 AM

Deggesty

I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult?

Johnny

That would have made it more difficult for me. Because it is only 134 rail miles between Atlanta and Chattanooga, I had a hard time imagining there would be a sleeper running only between the two cities. The same is true of the Chattanooga - Nashville route which is only 152 miles in length.

On to the next one. You have 20 questions to identify the train I have in mind, the end points of its route and the RR(s) over which it ran.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 9:03 AM

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Johnny, I'm going to take a stab at identifying the train. NC&StL No's. 3 & 4 running between Nashville and Atlanta. The leased RR over which it ran was the State of Georgia owned Western & Atlantic between Chattanooga and Atlanta.

Mark

P.S.I can't find any record of setout sleepers at Chattanooga so I'm just guessing that they ran at an earlier time than any of the OG's which I have to reference.

Mark, you are right on; it was the NC&StL's (and then the L&N's) overnight train between Nashville and Atlanta. The 1916 Guide I have shows local sleepers between both Nashville and Atlanta and Chattanooga. The Chattanooga-Atlanta local was dropped first (I don't know when), and then the Nashville-Chattanooga local was dropped (again, I don't know when).

In 1893, the train had a through sleeper between St. Louis and Atlanta, and carried the name Quickstep.

I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult?

Johnny

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Posted by KCSfan on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 11:04 PM

Johnny, I'm going to take a stab at identifying the train. NC&StL No's. 3 & 4 running between Nashville and Atlanta. The leased RR over which it ran was the State of Georgia owned Western & Atlantic between Chattanooga and Atlanta.

Mark

P.S.I can't find any record of setout sleepers at Chattanooga so I'm just guessing that they ran at an earlier time than any of the OG's which I have to reference.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 10:00 PM

Re:  "#7 Yes. Come on, somebody make a wrong guess.

Johnny" 

 

No WAG from me, Johnny, not this time.  My recent ones have been poor, as you know. 

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:55 PM
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Is Atlanta the name of any locality mentioned thus far (an end point, a near mid point, a city cars are set out for, a city in the railroad's name)?

#7 Yes. Come on, somebody make a wrong guess.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:53 PM

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Did the train operate, in whole or in part, over one or more of the predecessor railroads of today's CSX? 

 

#6 Yes.

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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:46 PM

Is Atlanta the name of any locality mentioned thus far (an end point, a near mid point, a city cars are set out for, a city in the railroad's name)?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:18 PM

 

Did the train operate, in whole or in part, over one or more of the predecessor railroads of today's CSX? 

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 8:28 PM
wanswheel

Is the train in the South?

#5 Yes, definitely.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 8:28 PM

KCSfan

Did the name of the RR in whose timetables the schedule of the train appeared contain the name of at least one city?

Mark

#4 Yes, indeed.

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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 8:10 PM

Is the train in the South?

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