Newfoundland Railway's "Overland Limited" Newfie Bullet Caribou
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Since the 20 questions format seems to have caught on, I'll try my hand at one.
I'm thinking of a passenger train. What was its name, route and over what RR or RR's did it run.
Mark
KCSfan I really should wait for an answer to the last question. But, since we've got quite a few left, I can't resist taking a shot at a hunch I have. Was it the CN's Caribou running on Newfoundland between St. John's and Port-Aux-Basques? Mark
I really should wait for an answer to the last question. But, since we've got quite a few left, I can't resist taking a shot at a hunch I have.
Was it the CN's Caribou running on Newfoundland between St. John's and Port-Aux-Basques?
Your question.
Al - in - Stockton
Was at least one terminal of the train a city on one of the Maritimes (New Brunswick, Nova Scotia & Prince Edward Island)?
KCSfan Since the railroad's name does not contain the name of a body of water we can eliminate the Canadian Pacific. Was the railroad the Canadian National? Mark
Since the railroad's name does not contain the name of a body of water we can eliminate the Canadian Pacific.
Was the railroad the Canadian National?
KCSfan Was it a Canadian train? Mark
Was it a Canadian train?
KCSfan Did the RR have a state in its name? Mark
Did the RR have a state in its name?
KCSfan Did the RR on which the train ran have a city in its name? Mark
Did the RR on which the train ran have a city in its name?
KCSfan Did the train run on a single RR as opposed to being handled by multiple roads? Mark
Did the train run on a single RR as opposed to being handled by multiple roads?
Deggesty Is it a Southern Railway System train? Johnny
Is it a Southern Railway System train?
Johnny
KCSfanwanswheel Is either of the terminals a passenger station in a city that has a river bridge in the Central Time Zone? Incidentally I see RR singular and not RRs plural in the set up, so that's a given. Thanks. Very good! You just eliminated Chicago and all the cities on the Mississippi with one question. Did the train run east of the Mississippi River?
wanswheel Is either of the terminals a passenger station in a city that has a river bridge in the Central Time Zone? Incidentally I see RR singular and not RRs plural in the set up, so that's a given. Thanks.
Is either of the terminals a passenger station in a city that has a river bridge in the Central Time Zone?
Incidentally I see RR singular and not RRs plural in the set up, so that's a given. Thanks.
Very good! You just eliminated Chicago and all the cities on the Mississippi with one question.
Did the train run east of the Mississippi River?
wanswheel Does the railroad's name contain the name of a body of water?
Does the railroad's name contain the name of a body of water?
Let's try another twenty questions with some rules in place. Must be a North American RR and train. Can be Freight or Passenger and must be at least fifty years old. Please no WAGs.
If it's OK than here is my question I am thinking of a train? Name the train RR and terminals?
passengerfanThe Northern Pacific was another and one of the trains was the North Coast Limited. Was the third the Soo before it reached Chicago. The only Soo train I can think of was the Mountaineer. Al - in - Stockton
The Northern Pacific was another and one of the trains was the North Coast Limited.
Was the third the Soo before it reached Chicago. The only Soo train I can think of was the Mountaineer.
Congrats! You got the other two!
The Chicago-Seattle-Portland Northern Pacific North Coast Limited operated on the C&NW (via Madison and via Milwaukee at various times) from about 1909 until WW1. I believe NP routed only the North Coast Limited via C&NW. NP's other western trains either were operated only to/from St. Paul or went to Chicago via the Burlington during this time period.
The Soo/CP Chicago-Vancouver Mountaineer was operated on the C&NW in the 1930's and I think right after WW2. The Soo operated the Mountaineer on its own Chicago-Minneapolis rails from the trains inception in the 1920's, but I think the C&NW was used because of better traffic potential from the C&NW service areas.
You get to ask the next question.
KCSfanZephyr, Your original question stated that the CNW was the eastern partner for at least three western transcontinental services. By definition I think a transcontinental service would be one running between the east and west coasts and since the CNW obviously didn't run east of Chicago, I'm confused. I must be missing something so help me out please. Mark
Zephyr,
Your original question stated that the CNW was the eastern partner for at least three western transcontinental services. By definition I think a transcontinental service would be one running between the east and west coasts and since the CNW obviously didn't run east of Chicago, I'm confused. I must be missing something so help me out please.
Mark,
I'm using the term "transcontinental" as it has been used by individuals, the media, and the railroads for the past 100 years or so. When people refer to the first transcontinental, they refer to the Union Pacific/Central Pacific Sacramento-Omaha line which allowed an individual to travel between the east and west coasts by train. When someone talked about a transcontinental train, it was understood to mean a Chicago/St. Louis/New Orleans/Minneapolis-west coast run. I think the confusion lies in the term "eastern partner" when I made reference to the the C&NW. When I wrote the original question, in my mind the C&NW was the "eastern" partner (or handled the eastern portion) of the Chicago-west coast services that I have in mind. What I should have asked is:
Name three Chicago-west coast services that the C&NW was involved with.
And as I had mentioned, you got the first answer, the UP Overland Route.
Pardon the verbosity.
KCSfanZephyrOverland The Chicago and North Western was the eastern partner for at least three western transcontinental services. Name the connecting railroads and one or two trains for each service. I think you meant Chicago to West Coast not transcontinental services. Chi - San Fran CNW/UP/SP City of SF & SF Overland Chi - LA CNW/UP City of LA & Challenger Chi - Seattle CNW/UP Portland Rose & City of Portland Mark
ZephyrOverland The Chicago and North Western was the eastern partner for at least three western transcontinental services. Name the connecting railroads and one or two trains for each service.
The Chicago and North Western was the eastern partner for at least three western transcontinental services. Name the connecting railroads and one or two trains for each service.
I think you meant Chicago to West Coast not transcontinental services.
Chi - San Fran CNW/UP/SP City of SF & SF Overland
Chi - LA CNW/UP City of LA & Challenger
Chi - Seattle CNW/UP Portland Rose & City of Portland
No, I did mean transcontinental (as in Chicago - west, not east coast-west coast) services. You named one - the UP/SP Overland Route. The C&NW was involved with two other services with other railroads.
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