al-in-chgo The George Washington, Chesapeake & Ohio, Washington, D.C. (Newport News) - train joined in Charlottesville, VA, then ran thru West Virginia but was "decoupled" with one stem going thru Frankfort, KY to Louisville, and the "main" portion going to Cincinnati, OH, terminus, where it connected with such day trains as the James Whitcomb Riley up to Chicago. There may have been other "moving parts" to the C&O's best-known varnish up 'til the late Fifties, but I have indicated: one operating entity / operating under one name / with three routes no matter how you slice them (Newport News - C'ville), Wash. D.C. to Cincinnati (and/or branch to Louisville). I don't know if this is the train you had in mind, but does it fit your definition? - a.s.
The George Washington, Chesapeake & Ohio, Washington, D.C. (Newport News) - train joined in Charlottesville, VA, then ran thru West Virginia but was "decoupled" with one stem going thru Frankfort, KY to Louisville, and the "main" portion going to Cincinnati, OH, terminus, where it connected with such day trains as the James Whitcomb Riley up to Chicago.
There may have been other "moving parts" to the C&O's best-known varnish up 'til the late Fifties, but I have indicated: one operating entity / operating under one name / with three routes no matter how you slice them (Newport News - C'ville), Wash. D.C. to Cincinnati (and/or branch to Louisville).
I don't know if this is the train you had in mind, but does it fit your definition? - a.s.
Al - in - Stockton
I am looking for the name of a train the RR that operated that train and at least three of the routes the train was assigned to?
Gentlemen you have twenty questions starting now.
All the trains I know of have been mentioned so it's time to draw this question to a close. By my count the score is:
Henry - 1
Al-in-Stockton - 3 (Sorry but the Meremaid wasm't named after a specific woman and doesn't count.)
adkdivfan - 1
Al is our winner and gets to ask the next question.
Mark
Nice try, Al.
Henry Flagler had three wives at one time or another - none of whom were named Dixie. No.s one and three were named Mary, wife No. 2 was named Alice.
No cigar, there.
Bob Hanson, Loganville, GA
Dixie Flagler was the wife of Henry Flagler and the train was named for her.
The Nancy Hanks II was a Central of Georgia passenger train, not Southern Railway. It did not turn a wheel on the Southern, only the CofG. The Southern controlled the CofG after 1963, but the Nancy was inaugurated in 1948, long before the Southern conquest - er, takeover - of the Central.
The Central of Georgia still exists as a legal entity but for operating purposes is part and parcel of NS. Until fairly recently it had separate (and different) contracts with the operating unions. Possibly still does.
If the question is not closed I have one more the Mermaid a PRSL train between Philadelphia and Atlantic City.
adkdivfan C&NW's Kate Shelley 400, Chicago-Clinton IA. IC's Miss Lou, Jackson MS-New Orleans.M-K-T's Katy Ltd, San Antonio-Kansas City.
C&NW's Kate Shelley 400, Chicago-Clinton IA. IC's Miss Lou, Jackson MS-New Orleans.M-K-T's Katy Ltd, San Antonio-Kansas City.
The Kate Shelley definitely but not the other two. Neither the Miss Lou nor Katy Ltd (or Katy Flyer) were named for women. The former was merely an abbreviation of the two states covered by the train and the latter just the "common name" by which the MKT was known.
al-in-chgo Don't bother replying -- yes, you win! The Internet had the complete poem about Abe Lincoln's (blood) mother who died when he was nine. But Wiki stub specifically connected the famous trotting horse (named for the biped) to the Sou. Rwy. train, 1947-1971.
Don't bother replying -- yes, you win! The Internet had the complete poem about Abe Lincoln's (blood) mother who died when he was nine. But Wiki stub specifically connected the famous trotting horse (named for the biped) to the Sou. Rwy. train, 1947-1971.
Al,
I hope I'm not being too nit picky but you've got it right. The race horse was named after Lincoln's birth mother and the train was named for the race horse. When the Central of Georgia first put it in service the drumhead on the last car depicted a horses head framed by a horseshoe.
Re: "al-in-chgo: The Nancy Hanks, Atlanta - Savannah, Southern Rwy."
"Sorry Al but the Nancy doesn't count. The train along with its Man 'o War companion were named for famous race horses".
If you say so, but didn't the name also belong to Abraham Lincoln's Southern-born stepmother? - a.s.
Poem on request ito anyone who pm's me. - a.s.
passengerfan I came up with five. Ann Rutledge - Alton later GM&O between Chicago and St. Louis Dixie Flagler - FEC owned but operated over the C&EI, NC&STL,L&N, AB&C, ACL, FEC between Chicago and Miami Nellie Bly - PRR PRSL - Philadelphia - Atlantic City Phoebe Snow - DL&W New York - Buffalo later after merger with Erie extended to Chicago POCAHONTAS - N&W between Norfolk and Cincinnatti Al - in - Stockton
I came up with five.
Ann Rutledge - Alton later GM&O between Chicago and St. Louis
Dixie Flagler - FEC owned but operated over the C&EI, NC&STL,L&N, AB&C, ACL, FEC between Chicago and Miami
Nellie Bly - PRR PRSL - Philadelphia - Atlantic City
Phoebe Snow - DL&W New York - Buffalo later after merger with Erie extended to Chicago
POCAHONTAS - N&W between Norfolk and Cincinnatti
I'll credit you with three trains, the Ann Rutledge, Nellie Bly and Pocahontas. Henry mentioned the Phoebe first so credit goes to him for naming her.
The Dixie Flagler was not named for a woman. The Dixie part of its name derived from its running on the Dixie line route of the Dixieland and Dixie Flyer. Flagler referred to Henry M. Flagler, Florida land developer and FEC mogul.
al-in-chgo The Nancy Hanks, Atlanta - Savannah, Southern Rwy.
The Nancy Hanks, Atlanta - Savannah, Southern Rwy.
Sorry Al but the Nancy doesn't count. The train along with its Man 'o War companion were named for famous race horses.
Henry,
I had real life women in mind when I asked the question but I wasn't specific on that point. I think it's only right to accept Miss Phoebe and any other fictional women as valid answers.
Do they have to be real life people or could they be made up or fictional characters? I.E. Phoebe Snow.
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Not very many US trains were named after women. Name those in the 1900 - 1959 time period, the RR's over which they ran and their end point terminals. Specific women's names only; not, for example, the Southern Belle.
Mark, yes your turn.
The quote is from A Declaration by the Representatives of the United Colonies of North-America, Now Met in Congress at Philadelphia, Setting Forth the Causes and Necessity of Their Taking Up Arms. July 6, 1775. This was the 2nd Continental Congress, same as that met in York in 1777 to formalize the union with Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union.
1941 Time article says the new Jeffersonian is only ten minutes slower than the Spirit of St. Louis, with which it was combined in 1950. The Jeffersonian was discontinued in 1953.
http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollections/images/adaccess/T/T31/T3108/T3108-med.jpeg
http://photoswest.org/photos/00014376/00014452.jpg
http://prr.railfan.net/documents/Jeffersonian/
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,795217,00.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=PxQpiIDTOh4C&pg=PA76#v=onepage&q=&f=true
Mike
The Pennsy's Jeffersonian running between New York and St. Louis. The quotation is attributable to Thomas Jefferson.
Not George Washington and not John Quincy Adams.
His last name within an adjective similar to Wilsonian.
The New Haven's John Quincy Adams which ran between Boston and New York.
Was it the George Washington.
Nope
Did the route the train took operate all or mostly over today's CSX system?
Yes
Did it operate all or mostly east of the Mississippi River? - a.s.
Nope. You're right the train was named for a president.
Was it the Abraham Lincoln ? - al s.
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