Based on what was said in earlier posts, could the answer be Cleveland Union Station (not Terminal) what was used by the PRR and the NYC (at least the Big 4 and Lake Shore and Michigan Southern) and was torn down in 1959?
You guys are moving in on the answer. The city and the involved railroads have all been mentioned, now just put the right combination together.
Previous post should read "I read somewhere..."
I just washed my hands and can't do a thing with them.
Bob Hanson, Loganville, GA
Are you thinking about Cleveland? The NYC and NKP had a joint depot that was definitely in the urban blight category.
I believe I read somehwee that when it caught fire a crowd gathered and cheered.
Good guess, but I don't think they put up quite the stink about things as this city did. In addition to the billboard was a postcard asking for the same consideration. Clues;
1. The involved railroads, when they moved in together were definately the Odd Couple.
2. If this city had a billboard today it would probably ask visitors not to judge them by their sport teams.
I hope you're right Dave, because that thought passed through my mind too!
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The old PRR station in Newark before the present Penn Station, used by PRR and LV?
Congratulations you got one of the three. As to the city it was not Pittsburgh. The station I am refering to was permanent facility that was around for quite some time before finally being put to rest.
K4sPRR Ok, here's the next one. Two major US railroads shared a passenger facility in a large industrial city. This particular depot was in such deplorable condition that local business's erected a bill board near the depot asking visitors not to judge their city by the condition of the passenger station. What was the city, and who were the railroads involved?
Ok, here's the next one. Two major US railroads shared a passenger facility in a large industrial city. This particular depot was in such deplorable condition that local business's erected a bill board near the depot asking visitors not to judge their city by the condition of the passenger station. What was the city, and who were the railroads involved?
I'm going to guess - Pittsburgh with the PRR and PRR West Lines concerning their "temporary" station - the one built after the railroad riots in the 1870s(?), not the one that is currently standing.
K4sPRR, yes your turn. Frisco thought Seabiscuit was two words.
http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p00880.jpg
Since Mike has not responded, I will go with K4sPRR since the Frisco named many of its diesel locomotives after race horses.
Johnny
Southern Pacific?
Frisco.
Nope.
Since the Long Island Rail Road served Belmont Park, that would ordinarily be my first choice. However, | doubt the LIRR ever named locomotives. In that respect, they followed PRR practice. I think, however, that both the Florida East Coast and the Kansas City Southern at one time or another named locomotives, diesels as well as steam,, after race hourses. I will choose the latter, for the present. Possibly the Louisville and Nashville did also. But I will stick with KCS for the moment!
What railroad named a locomotive for Seabiscuit?
Seabiscuit at Elmont, NY (Belmont Park) in 1938
Mike
Still waiting for the next question!
Wans...you got it, but the fireplace and the lounge cars didn't stay in service on the Meteor...instead being transferred to service on the Firefly, which made it from KC to Oklahoma in only 30 minutes longer than competitor Santa Fe. The Firefly (actually the name of a pre-Frisco System breakup train on the Rock Island) arrived in Tulsa and OK City via Joplin. This required some backtracking.
Take it away...the question's all yours.
Excerpt from Railway Age (1936)
In 1934, the St. Louis-San Francisco built, at its own shops at Springfield, Mo., two all-welded, modern steel lounge cars which attracted the favorable attention of railroad men as well as passengers and are now in service on the Meteor, operating between St. Louis, Mo. and Oklahoma City, Okla. The lounge room is furnished with deep and comfortable easy chairs, love seats, magazine tables, writing desk, rubber-cushioned carpet and a cozy fireplace.
http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p01614.jpg
Truly, the trains mentioned here had some "unusual" decor in their lounge and dining cars.
BUT
Not what I'm looking for.
HINT TIME!!!
It's time between two plains states cities in a somewhat circuitous route was only off the more direct (and more affluent) competition by less than an hour. Consequently, when you settled into a comfy seat next to that fireplace...you stayed there !
I'll take a WAG at the City of Los Angeles and it's Copper Lounge Car with the train being operated over the CNW-UP routing.
FlyingCrow I'll do it..... Name of Train and Railroad: Whose prewar speedster featured a fireplace (albeit decorative only) in the lounge car? Is anyone else seeing the forum in WIDE screen now like I am?
I'll do it.....
Name of Train and Railroad: Whose prewar speedster featured a fireplace (albeit decorative only) in the lounge car?
Is anyone else seeing the forum in WIDE screen now like I am?
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
If not the EmpireBuilder, then definitely the original articulated Denver Zephyr twin trainsets.
No winners yet! Read the question carefully because I put a hint word in there.
Great Northern's Empire Builder with the lounge car having ranch motive.
FlyingCrowName of Train and Railroad: Whose prewar speedster featured a fireplace (albeit decorative only) in the lounge car?
I don't have a question ready. Would somebody please ask a question? Thanks.
DSO17: Absolutely correct. After the gap was filled between Harold Tower/Sunnyside Yard (Queens) and Trenton, P-5's began hauling Washington trains to Wilmington to swap to K-4's and E-6's until the electrification was completed to Washington Union Station. But of course the two Cape Charles through trains continued the process. And if Amtrak were to run a passenger service to Cape Charles, the change point would be Philadelphia, where Amtrak has facilities and change power on the Three Rivers. Look forward to your question.
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