If anyone has information from a website, information that I may have overlooked (even in my inspection of the website) contradicting something that I believe to be fact, please do contact me at daveklepper@yahoo.com witih both my statement and what you consider a fact from a website. Thanks
Those who wish me well and have fhe kind of medical knowledge that helped withi the cured vs. recovered issue can help with another problem.
When an institution, be it a hospital, country, whatever. announces both that they have a 100% reovery rate from the Cononavirus and at the same time announce a number of deaths, one is of course cuious az just what they are talking about. The answer, of course, is that all those who died had pre-existing medical problens. So the death was not brought on by the Cononavirus alone.
But don't most people have some illness in their history? What are the criteria for attributing a death to pre-existing medical problems?
In comparing various treatments, what is the criterion for this factor. It should be applied universaly. Is it?
I'm glad to report that limited light rail service and bus service, removed Wednesday evening, will be restored to Jerusalem Sunday morning.
As a general comment, I read the website of organizations with whom I disagree with, and on occasion have posted information received from them as information. This applies to all areas of life that are important to me. And I do not make the mistake of answering a poster without reading all that he or she has written.
I was not responding to you. I was responfing to McFarlane
I will not respond to your inaccurate accusation of pro-Israel Propaganda here.
If you wish to discuss my defense of my right to live where I am without the problem of terror you may contact me at daveklepper@yahoo.com. I will not reply further here.
And no, when I requested that you turn off the Pro-Israel propaganda channel, I wasn't jesting.
daveklepperThe people who did read my posts on other threads who obviously realize the request not to post anything was meant in jest.
Why can't you be a "cool guy" like me, and do what I did with the "Sweden's Curve" post?
Copy a relevant paragraph or two that supports your position, and then provide a link to the rest of the story for those who remain interested to continue reading.
You're treating this place like it is your personal blog. Other relevant posts are being overshadowed by the din of your "contributions"
FYI, there are more than the three folks who have asked you to stop publicly who would prefer that you stop these long, marginally-related to the thread posts.
Perhaps you could post them on the "Some Israeli News" thread you started?
Maybe you would benefit from reading sites like Bend the Arc, the Jewish Voice for Peace, Never Again Action, J Street or The World Union for Progressive Judaism.
You style yourself as a conservative. AFAIK, many conservatives here strongly oppose the use of eminent domain to take property and evict the owner and use it for other uses. Yet you support a government where you reside that repeatedly has done that to Palestinians in East Jerusalem, long the Israeli version of The Wall and various other locations. These actions often include the use of bulldozers to destroy their homes and olive orchards.
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243129 daveklepper I will cease posting Israel's progress in controling the virus unless someone requests me to do so. Who "requested"?
daveklepper I will cease posting Israel's progress in controling the virus unless someone requests me to do so.
Who "requested"?
The people who did read my posts on other threads who obviously realize the request not to post anything was meant in jest.
Should you wish to carry this or any other personal argument further:
daveklepper@yahoo.com
But not on this website!
Flintlock76 ATLANTIC CENTRAL Euclid Well the latest news is that Trump is looking for a way to sue China for the damages caused by their coronavirus. Free model trains and half price on everything at Walmart for the next 50 years...... Sounds good to me. Yeah, but remember the old saying, "You get what you pay for!"
ATLANTIC CENTRAL Euclid Well the latest news is that Trump is looking for a way to sue China for the damages caused by their coronavirus. Free model trains and half price on everything at Walmart for the next 50 years...... Sounds good to me.
Euclid Well the latest news is that Trump is looking for a way to sue China for the damages caused by their coronavirus.
Well the latest news is that Trump is looking for a way to sue China for the damages caused by their coronavirus.
Free model trains and half price on everything at Walmart for the next 50 years......
Sounds good to me.
Yeah, but remember the old saying, "You get what you pay for!"
Agreed, sarcasm is hard to put into print........
Sheldon
So it wasn't so much a re-infection as it was a rush to judgement that the original cure was complete?
Covid-19 Immunity ????
https://time.com/5810454/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection/
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
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Sheldon: How much acreage is your house on? Firing a rifle in your backyard doesn't sound like a very safe practice. Depending on your rifle, ammo and terrain a stray shot could travel at least 200 yds to well over 1000.
Convicted OneWell, I hope we don't hear about one at all. But, cynic that I am, I expect the guilt peddeling to start not long after we are all back at the grind stone.
I agree. I really think it is one of the most repressive types of tax, and it needs to be fought if it is ever proposed.
York1 John
Well, I hope we don't hear about one at all. But, cynic that I am, I expect the guilt peddeling to start not long after we are all back at the grind stone.
Convicted OneYou think I may be giving someone more credit than they deserve by suspecting him?
To my knowlege (and it's limited), the only mention I remember lately of a sales tax or a VAT has come from groups who are looking for ways to pay for their idea of free college and paid-off college loans.
EuclidWhy would we care about paying it back?
'Cause Milton Friedman was such a swell guy.
York1and is exactly why the U.S. should not have a national sales tax or a VAT.
Just to assure an abundance of clarity, I am not advocating a national sales tax as a good idea. I just suspect that if used as a means towards a particular end, (stimulus recovery) ....this stimulus ends up being an incredible transfer of wealth from the 'have nots' to the 'haves'.
You think I may be giving someone more credit than they deserve by suspecting him?
Convicted OneA 4% national sales tax is going to hit someone making $20,000/yr but spending half of it on retail necessities...much harder (in terms of as a percentage of their total income} than it's going to hit someone making $100,000/yr but splurging $15,000/yr on "necessities" (again as a percentage of their total income)
Which is exactly why many European countries have such issues with their VAT, and is exactly why the U.S. should not have a national sales tax or a VAT.
The point is that this notion that the rich don't pay enough taxes is silly.
It's a continual drumbeat that somehow the rich are not being taxed. It's actually the bottom 44% of all American wage earners who pay no income tax.
Convicted OneOnce the country goes back to work, there will doubtlessly be discussion of how we will "pay back" the debt of this stimulus package.
Why would we care about paying it back?
We have that already in Canada. Groceries are exempt as are listed necessities such as diapers, medications and so on. Not fast food or restaurants though. Below a certain income level a fixed amount is 'refunded' at specific intervals.
I would support a luxury tax or a higher level of value added tax on nonsense like $10,000 Gucci bags, really expensive watches and so forth. That particular cohort of folks could care less anyway.
York1The top 1% of income earners paid 39% of all the income tax collected. Excluding that 1%, the next top 5% paid 20% of all the income tax collected.
Which, if you increased everyone's income tax bill by 4%, guess who would get hit hardest?
Alternately, let's assume that the average citizen spends $10,000 / year on retail necessities
A 4% national sales tax is going to hit someone making $20,000/yr but spending half of it on retail necessities...much harder (in terms of as a percentage of their total income} than it's going to hit someone making $100,000/yr but splurging $15,000/yr on "necessities" (again as a percentage of their total income)
Plus, a national sales tax option recovers money from those care free retirees with no chargable income as well.
BaltACDBaltACD wrote the following post 1 hours ago: Convicted One I'm predicting they will prefer some nice regressive scheme that punishes the bottom 50%. There has been discussion of a national sales tax, for years. What better way to balance the accounts while leaving the top 10% unscathed. You heard it here first Devil Tend to agree with your assessment - how dare the 1% pay anything of the tax burden. Trickle down my posterior!
More socialist tending countries have the most regressive "sales tax", usually know as the VAT or Value Added Tax. Google it per country to see what it is and how it works. My Canadian friends are always complaining about theirs.
In 2017, in the U.S.,:
The top 1% of income earners paid 39% of all the income tax collected.
Excluding that 1%, the next top 5% paid 20% of all the income tax collected.
The bottom 50% of all income earners paid less than 3% of all the income tax collected.
The 1,409 richest people in the country paid more income tax than the bottom 70 million taxpayers.
Convicted OneI'm predicting they will prefer some nice regressive scheme that punishes the bottom 50%. There has been discussion of a national sales tax, for years. What better way to balance the accounts while leaving the top 10% unscathed. You heard it here first
There has been discussion of a national sales tax, for years. What better way to balance the accounts while leaving the top 10% unscathed. You heard it here first
Tend to agree with your assessment - how dare the 1% pay anything of the tax burden. Trickle down my posterior!
alphas Euclid Oh yes, the President will take the risk, and he is insisting on April 30 as the day we put everyone back to work. But I think he will face fierce opposition on this from many governors, Dr. Fauci, and most of the media. The governers will argue that they have the authority to continue their lockdowns, and the President does not have the authority to end their lockdowns. So if the President sends people back to work, the governors might arrest those poeople for violating the lockdown. This is a constitutional argument as to who really has the authority in this matter. First of all, the president's not insisting everyone go back to work on April 30th. He's said all along the decision should be made on an area by area or state by state basis. April 30th is a target date but its not set in stone. Second, the Feds can make recommendations but it is and always has been up to the individual governors as to what's going to take place in their states as well as what restrictions should be in place. If the legislators want to, they can always overrule their governor. Third, this president has faced opposition from most of the media since day 1 so no matter what he does, those media will be opposed to it. Fourth, I'm not buying Dr. Fauci is infalible. His earlier statements before March showed that he didn't have a good understanding of what was going on. I also remember him at one of the March pressers coming to the defense of the Director of WHO which is ridiculous in my opinion and I am pretty sure I'm not alone in that opinion. This country's economic well being is eventually going to have to be the number one concern even if the virus still exists in some pockets. Shutting the entire economy down until the virus totally disappears is not a workable option. Otherwise, the resulting fiscal disaster will have a far greater impact on everyone than the virus has on some.
Euclid Oh yes, the President will take the risk, and he is insisting on April 30 as the day we put everyone back to work. But I think he will face fierce opposition on this from many governors, Dr. Fauci, and most of the media. The governers will argue that they have the authority to continue their lockdowns, and the President does not have the authority to end their lockdowns. So if the President sends people back to work, the governors might arrest those poeople for violating the lockdown. This is a constitutional argument as to who really has the authority in this matter.
First of all, the president's not insisting everyone go back to work on April 30th. He's said all along the decision should be made on an area by area or state by state basis. April 30th is a target date but its not set in stone. Second, the Feds can make recommendations but it is and always has been up to the individual governors as to what's going to take place in their states as well as what restrictions should be in place. If the legislators want to, they can always overrule their governor. Third, this president has faced opposition from most of the media since day 1 so no matter what he does, those media will be opposed to it. Fourth, I'm not buying Dr. Fauci is infalible. His earlier statements before March showed that he didn't have a good understanding of what was going on. I also remember him at one of the March pressers coming to the defense of the Director of WHO which is ridiculous in my opinion and I am pretty sure I'm not alone in that opinion.
This country's economic well being is eventually going to have to be the number one concern even if the virus still exists in some pockets. Shutting the entire economy down until the virus totally disappears is not a workable option. Otherwise, the resulting fiscal disaster will have a far greater impact on everyone than the virus has on some.
There will be more talk about a restart on a regional basis. I doubt that any agreement will be found in how to accomplish that.
In the meantime, I expect other shoes to drop both with the activity of the virus spread, and our relationship with China.
ATLANTIC CENTRALAnd I admit, I have a personal bias in this. I am not a cruise ship patron, frequent airplane flyer, European or Caribbean vacation goer, bar fly, womanizer, party goer, jet set celebrity, or otherwise highly exposed
Hey, don't knock it until you try it.
Since we are all "fessing up" here, I just filed for social security retirement benefits last November, getting my first check in January. So it's easier for me to find peace with the new reality, than for someone still trying to build their lives.
In terms of "a life well lived" I'll always have the warm glow of knowing I filed for benefits at exactly the right time....contrasted with the knowledge that if I get the bug and the hospitals happen to be overwealmed, I will likely be deemed "expendable".
That nice big stimulus check is merely a bonus for me, either way.
Gloom and doom prediction: Once the country goes back to work, there will doubtlessly be discussion of how we will "pay back" the debt of this stimulus package.
I'm predicting they will prefer some nice regressive scheme that punishes the bottom 50%.
Convicted One Flintlock76 This can't go on forever. We can't have the whole country on welfare, which is a distinct possibility unless commerce is started again. Just being completely frank, the first job I ever had I started while a junior in high school, and stayed with that company 28 years. I then took a self funded vacation for 9 years, and then worked as self employed another 8 years. I don't feel the least bit guilty enjoying this mandatory furlough.
Flintlock76 This can't go on forever. We can't have the whole country on welfare, which is a distinct possibility unless commerce is started again.
Just being completely frank, the first job I ever had I started while a junior in high school, and stayed with that company 28 years. I then took a self funded vacation for 9 years, and then worked as self employed another 8 years.
I don't feel the least bit guilty enjoying this mandatory furlough.
Good for you, we choose different paths. Glad you could put up with corporate america for 28 years............
I have been self employed most of my life. Started my first business at age 23. Never really worked for any big corporations, never worked for someone else more than a three or four year stretch.
As soon as I sell some excess real estate, I don't really have a care in the world. And it looks like the virus has only had a mild negative effect on the real estate market here where I am.
But I am seeing the effect on others in my community.
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