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Ed Ellis, Privately run Passenger Train discussion, April 2016 Colorado

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Posted by CMStPnP on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:44 AM

This is going to go on and on if I answer your questions.   So lets drop it and move on to another topic.     

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:14 AM

CMStPnP
So thats it from me on Coke dispenser talk from now on use Google everyone. Time to change the subject.

Pepsi?

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:25 AM

zugmann
CMStPnP

Pepsi?

Dr. Pepper and Moon Pies?

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:03 AM

BaltACD

 

 
zugmann
CMStPnP

Pepsi?

 

Dr. Pepper and Moon Pies?

 

The preferred combination was an RC Cola and a Moon Pie where I grew up.

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 9:55 AM

Deggesty
The preferred combination was an RC Cola and a Moon Pie where I grew up.

It was during my seven years in Atlanta, even though it's Coke's headquarters: RC and MoonPie [no space].

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Posted by CMStPnP on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:05 AM

Feel free to continue the soft drink discussion without me but I am pretty sure your going to need one of these at some point.   Borrowed from our own Army:

http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Hurt-Feelings-Report.jpg

 

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:09 AM

Thanks for deigning to give us lesser folk permission!

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 12:59 PM

CMStPnP
Feel free to continue the soft drink discussion without me but I am pretty sure you're going to need one of these at some point.

You should tell the MVT people to correct the spelling mistakes; a real Army bureaucrat would know how to spell 'obsolete' or recognize that the correct MI language in that phrase involves some form of the word 'supersede.'

And be careful: schlimm may be involved directly in the issuance and processing of the subsequent DA form 779-1A...

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:01 PM

Deggesty
BaltACD
zugmann
CMStPnP

Pepsi?

The preferred combination was an RC Cola and a Moon Pie where I grew up.

Not root beer???  Big Smile

And I am from the Northeast, land of the Boyer Mallo-Cup (perhaps the exemplar of the very last sort of candy that would be found for more than a few hours in the American South, particularly in summer weather) but I always found this "MoonPie" business interesting because on all the packaging I ever saw it's "MOON * PIE" with a fairly substantial gray dot and white space between the halves.  Who do you trust, company flacks or your lying eyes?

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Posted by CMStPnP on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:07 PM

RME
You should tell the MVT people to correct the spelling mistakes; a real Army bureaucrat would know how to spell 'obsolete' or recognize that the correct MI language in that phrase involves some form of the word 'supersede.'

I have to say on the Army Form it goes to show you the great humor of Combat Arms in years when they are stressed that they produced something like that as a joke.   It has been reproduced so many times I have no idea who created this copy.    Not sure if you have seen some of the political pictures which are funny as well.    Without breaching partisan sides of the aisle here an awesome one that is politcal is the BOB ON THE FOB comic strip written originally by a SSG with the 101st Airborne while in Iraq based on what he observed there during garrison Army life.    Some of the comic strip pictures apply to folks as civilians as they do to folks in uniform and that is why the strip is a classic.    BOB = Band of Brothers - reference name for 101st Airborne by Gen Petreus.    FOB = Forward Operating Base.    A lot of wartime humor in Iraq and Afghanistan unfortunately stayed there but the BOB ON THE FOB comics can be found on Facebook and via Internet searches.

Here is a small subset of the comics:

http://bradsexcellentadventure.blogspot.com/2008/02/bob-on-fob.html

 

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:19 PM

CMStPnP
an awesome one that is political is the BOB ON THE FOB comic strip ... Some of the comic strip pictures apply to folks as civilians as they do to folks in uniform and that is why the strip is a classic.

I've been thinking, on and off, that the Good Idea Fairy as described there particularly operates in some railroad ... and sometimes railroad forum ... contexts.

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:18 PM

MoonPie & RC  The lettering is inconsistent even though the same bakery in Chattanooga has made them since 1917.   Link

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:31 PM

CMStPnP

 

 
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Why would ATK put an extra large water tank on the diner if they did not need it all.  No need to answer, since ACY has already witnessed that exact thing you doubted ("dishwasher per load basis does not suck the water tank dry") still emptied the tank on a diner he was working on.

 

Your absolutely right, I completely missed the fact the Auto Train was a Western LD train now and has the same level of patronage as other LD trains.........Sorry about that. 

 

It sounds like you are tryng to rationalize that since the example given was the Auto Train, that everyone has to show examples of every train's diner running out of water.  Actually since you are the one suggesting that water capacity is not a problem, it is up to you to demonstrate that this was an isolated case.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:56 PM

CMStPnP

 

 
MidlandMike
Why would ATK put an extra large water tank on the diner if they did not need it all.  No need to answer, since ACY has already witnessed that exact thing you doubted ("dishwasher per load basis does not suck the water tank dry") still emptied the tank on a diner he was working on.

 

Excuse me, where did I say they did not need the water tank at all?   I think I said expansion of them would not be an issue.

 

Where did I say, that you said they did not need the water tank at all?  Now you are saying expansion of them (I presume you are still talking about the tanks) would not be an issue?  Maybe they could put the extra tanks where the soda cans are stored.  And you are also posting about extra water refill stops.  I think I have made my point that the train would have to carry the same total volume of liquid on board, regardless of which type of soda (fountain or can) they served.  I presume you know what you are talking about when you indicate a restaurant cuts cost with fountain drinks vs cans, and I have stayed out of that part if the conversation.  However, with your cavalier attitude toward added costs for expanding potable water storage or filling facilities, in addtion to all the other problems other posters have brought up, it is hard to take you seriously that your proposal would save any money, much less space.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:12 AM

RME
The preferred combination was an RC Cola and a Moon Pie where I grew up.

Not root beer???

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Posted by RME on Friday, October 14, 2016 12:04 PM

Paul of Covington
Don't you remember Brother Dave Gardner?

Ah! you didn't say "ah-ruh-cee"  That threw me off...

Actually, I was being sarcastic because an older response on the Trains Magazine forum to perceived dead-horse-beating was to change the general subject to root beer.  A bit like the old New Jersey "Hey, how about those Mets?" line [insert favorite locally-politically-acceptable team name as appropriate].

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, October 14, 2016 1:43 PM

Does Ed Ellis like root beer?Smile

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Posted by RME on Friday, October 14, 2016 6:10 PM

Deggesty
Does Ed Ellis like root beer?

Not sure, but the question is whether he likes it fountain style or out of a bottle.

Does anyone know if the actual soda that should govern a discussion thread like this one, Fan-Taz ("The Drink That Helps You Think"), qualified as a root beer?  It certainly was associated with baseball...

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, October 14, 2016 8:03 PM

RME

 

 
Deggesty
Does Ed Ellis like root beer?

 

Not sure, but the question is whether he likes it fountain style or out of a bottle.

Does anyone know if the actual soda that should govern a discussion thread like this one, Fan-Taz ("The Drink That Helps You Think"), qualified as a root beer?  It certainly was associated with baseball...

 

I ask a simple question, and somebody else comes along and complicates it.Crying

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Posted by RME on Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:52 PM

But the simple answer was "I don't know" which wouldn't be entertaining.  So in the true spirit of Forum posting I threw in some extraneous trivia to disguise the fact.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:44 PM

   Re Brother Dave Gardner, ever since I heard that routine (1960 more or less), every time I see a semi double-clutching E-flat tractor trailer truck I think about "I might be slow, but I'm ahead of you."

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