British Railway Operations

[Tulyar15]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Murphy,

Britain refers to the United Kingdom, consisting of England, Scotland, Wales and five counties in Northern Ireland. The flag, the "Union Jack" consists of superimposing the red square cross of England, the white diagonal cross of Scotland (on blue) and the red diagonal cross of Wales. Northern Ireland misses out, as usual.

No the red diagonal cross represents Ireland (the cross of St. Patrick). It is Wales that misses out, the Welsh flag is a red dragon in the middle of the flag, with white horizontal bar above a green. Incidentally the Northern Ireland flag is similar to the English one, ie the cross of St. George, but with the hand of Ulster in the middle of the cross. The modern flag of the Irish Republic consists of three horizontal bands, green at the top, white in the middle and orange at the bottom. The old Irish flag is still used by the Irish Rugby squad I think. Unlike other sports such as soccer where there are separate NI and Irish Republic sides in Rugby there is just one all-Ireland side which represents all of Ireland in the 6 nations championship. So Rugby is one sport that truly unites the Irish!

Rugby matches generate extra traffic for the railways. I think I've already mentioned how Iarnrod Eireann and Northern Ireland Railways lay on extra trains to Dublin when Ireland are at home. Likewise in Britain extra trains are laid on to Cardiff when Wales are at home, often resulting in loco hauled trains. Rugby is the most popular sport in Wales and the best match for producing extra trains is when Wales play England at Cardiff as many English fans just travel there for the day. Fans of the other 6 nations (Ireland, Scotland, France and Italy) tend to make a weekend of it so their travel is more spread out.

[james saunders]

go Australia... my heritage is welsh (mainly) so yeah GO Wales...

bloody yanks no everything dont they...[:D]

[M636C]

QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C
Britain refers to the United Kingdom, consisting of England, Scotland, Wales and five counties in Northern Ireland. The flag, the "Union Jack" consists of superimposing the red square cross of England, the white diagonal cross of Scotland (on blue) and the red diagonal cross of Wales. Northern Ireland misses out, as usual.

Couldn't the UK at least make the Union Jack with a green background for us poor ol' Eirelanders? I guess adding a four leaf clover is right out!

QUOTE:
If you are talking about the the English, you are referring only to people from south of Carlisle and east of the Severn river (more or less - my geography isn't that good, and for simplicity I'm ignoring Cornwall which isn't really English either)

So is Cornwall the British equivalent of our Rio Linda?

QUOTE:

In the UK, a similar problem exists in that they believe all Americans are "Yankees" while most people realise this term is limited to the North East of the USA.

Actually, them Northeasterners are a bunch of Tories who still wi***hey were subject to the Crown. How else can one explain Ted Kennedy, Jim Jeffers, and Hillary Clinton, et al?

I just said that Yankees were from the North East!

It's up to you what you make of them.

I'm from Australia, remember!

M636C

[Murphy Siding]

futuredave: Why in the world would you want to interject American politics into a perfectly good thread?[:(] Hiss! Boo!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C
Britain refers to the United Kingdom, consisting of England, Scotland, Wales and five counties in Northern Ireland. The flag, the "Union Jack" consists of superimposing the red square cross of England, the white diagonal cross of Scotland (on blue) and the red diagonal cross of Wales. Northern Ireland misses out, as usual.

Couldn't the UK at least make the Union Jack with a green background for us poor ol' Eirelanders? I guess adding a four leaf clover is right out!

QUOTE:
If you are talking about the the English, you are referring only to people from south of Carlisle and east of the Severn river (more or less - my geography isn't that good, and for simplicity I'm ignoring Cornwall which isn't really English either)

So is Cornwall the British equivalent of our Rio Linda?

QUOTE:

In the UK, a similar problem exists in that they believe all Americans are "Yankees" while most people realise this term is limited to the North East of the USA.

Actually, them Northeasterners are a bunch of Tories who still wi***hey were subject to the Crown. How else can one explain Ted Kennedy, Jim Jeffers, and Hillary Clinton, et al?

[M636C]

Murphy,

Britain refers to the United Kingdom, consisting of England, Scotland, Wales and five counties in Northern Ireland. The flag, the "Union Jack" consists of superimposing the red square cross of England, the white diagonal cross of Scotland (on blue) and the red diagonal cross of Wales. Northern Ireland misses out, as usual.

If you are talking about the the English, you are referring only to people from south of Carlisle and east of the Severn river (more or less - my geography isn't that good, and for simplicity I'm ignoring Cornwall which isn't really English either)

So the company at Preston that built diesels was called "English Electric" but the locomotive factory in Glasgow was called "North British", at least partly because being in Scotland it wasn't English!

In the UK, a similar problem exists in that they believe all Americans are "Yankees" while most people realise this term is limited to the North East of the USA.

My grandfather emigrated to Australia from Aberdeen, so my heritage is Scots. But if I'm in London during the England - Scotland football match, I'm from Australia, and have nothing to do with either group of drunken hooligans.

M636C

[Murphy Siding]

M636C: Thanks for the link. I'm just curious by nature, I guess.

cogload: I've learned a lot too![:)]. At the risk of sounding somewhat ignorant (again),can you explain the Brit/English comment?


Thanks

[Anonymous]

I tell you what. I am a Brit (not English - notice). I have learn't more reading some of this (if accurate! :-)...) then in many years getting slowly disillusioned by the industry in which I work.

[M636C]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Murphy,

Have you tried this site

http://www.12csv.com/index.htm

It deals with the British class 37 and equivalent Australian built locomotives.
There were nearly 300 English Electric locomotives built in Australia as well as many imported from the UK. These are widely spread now. The Australian built locomotives were equivalent to EMD and Alco export units, and were US style hood units.

Some of my photos are on this site, too!

M636C

Most things I've read about Austrailian diesel locomotives lead me to believe that American designs were more prevelant that British designs, is that so? Does Australia have any home-grown diesel locomotive builders?
Thanks

Murphy,

We are getting off the "British" topic a bit here, but I guess British exports are close enough. A site listing all diesel locomotives in Australia is

http://locopage.railpage.org.au/

If you go to "Queensland Rail/ Interail" and "1250/1270" class you will see a photo of one of the cab/hood locomotives (1251) as also used in Africa and described in an earlier post. It is a forerunner of the US "wide nose" locomotive now being built.

Between a third and a quarter of units in Australia used British power equipment. But you can get your impression by looking at the site. A complete list of builder's numbers can be downloaded as a zipped Excel file, but that might be more than you need. But look at the pictures and lists and I'll try to answer any other questions.

M636C

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Murphy,

Have you tried this site

http://www.12csv.com/index.htm

It deals with the British class 37 and equivalent Australian built locomotives.
There were nearly 300 English Electric locomotives built in Australia as well as many imported from the UK. These are widely spread now. The Australian built locomotives were equivalent to EMD and Alco export units, and were US style hood units.

Some of my photos are on this site, too!

M636C

Most things I've read about Austrailian diesel locomotives lead me to believe that American designs were more prevelant that British designs, is that so? Does Australia have any home-grown diesel locomotive builders?
Thanks

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Townsend

I used to live in Zimbabwe up until about 15 years ago. I was only 11 when i last left the county but i was already aware of railways. I remember seeing English Electric locos working in multiple with American locos. I have since found out that the English Electric loco was based on the BR class 40 but its 2000hp 16 cyl engine was derated to 1600 hp due to altitude. I dont know if the old boys are still going but i doubt it. There were also some English Electric locos im Zimbabwe that had a nose a bit like an F unit at one end and a narrow long hood behind it like a GP unit, ithing they were classed DE 4, and some very similar locos were suplied to Kenya in the 1960's and are still in use i think.

Your description of the DE 4 (?) sounds like the perfect *look* for a locomotive for me.[:)]

[Anonymous]

I used to live in Zimbabwe up until about 15 years ago. I was only 11 when i last left the county but i was already aware of railways. I remember seeing English Electric locos working in multiple with American locos. I have since found out that the English Electric loco was based on the BR class 40 but its 2000hp 16 cyl engine was derated to 1600 hp due to altitude. I dont know if the old boys are still going but i doubt it. There were also some English Electric locos im Zimbabwe that had a nose a bit like an F unit at one end and a narrow long hood behind it like a GP unit, ithing they were classed DE 4, and some very similar locos were suplied to Kenya in the 1960's and are still in use i think.

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Murphy,

Have you tried this site

http://www.12csv.com/index.htm

It deals with the British class 37 and equivalent Australian built locomotives.
There were nearly 300 English Electric locomotives built in Australia as well as many imported from the UK. These are widely spread now. The Australian built locomotives were equivalent to EMD and Alco export units, and were US style hood units.

Some of my photos are on this site, too!

M636C

Thanks! ' Added it to my list of favorites. I sometimes forget you guys are down there.

[M636C]

Murphy,

Have you tried this site

http://www.12csv.com/index.htm

It deals with the British class 37 and equivalent Australian built locomotives.
There were nearly 300 English Electric locomotives built in Australia as well as many imported from the UK. These are widely spread now. The Australian built locomotives were equivalent to EMD and Alco export units, and were US style hood units.

Some of my photos are on this site, too!

M636C

[Tulyar15]

Yes, English Electric exported diesel and electric locos to a number of countries, so did Brush (who are still in business to-day) and also the Birmingham Carriage and Wagon Co exported diesel locos to a number of countries. Most of their products used Sulzer engines and were very reliable. It came as a real shock when they went bankrupt in 1963. The dieselss they supplied British Rail's Scottish and Southern regions in the 1950's and 1960's lasted well; the former (a 1100hp design) lasting to the mid 1990's
while the latter ( a similar design but with a larger 1500hp engine) survived into the new millennia and even now a few are still in use with a number of open access operators.

What killed the British builders was that under pressure from the government British Rail spread the orders too thinly, giving firms such as North British of Glasgow orders who had little experience of building diesels and problems of quality control. Firms like NB went out of business anyway whilst the good ones didn't get enough orders and they too went out of business. English Electric became part of Alsthom while Brush manage to tick over on small orders.

The other factor was that having ordered too many diesel and then the Beeching closures, BR did not order any new diesels for about ten years between 1967 and 1976.

[Murphy Siding]

Were British manufacturers active in exporting diesel locomotives after WW I I ?.

[Murphy Siding]

RPRiebe: I have some answers for you. I'm going to start a thread about this, because I believe there are a lot of other book nuts out there besides me that could help both you and I. I encourage you to add to the new thread with your question. There are even forum members in Croatia and Poland-they might have some good ideas. I live in Sioux Falls. I've ordered books from a bookstore in St. Cloud online before!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding
I have a fair amount of railroad and locomotive books . I'd be happy to go and look for some info. Is there any specific type,or country you had in mind? You're right-if you get just a little bit off the norm, information gets sparse. A lot of times, a railroad book will have a picture,page or even a chapter about something out of the ordinary. Where are you in Minnesota?

I am in the St. Cloud area, middle of the state.

What I am trying to find, new or used, is some books that cover the diesel locomotives used between 1950-1970.
It is the fifties locos that probably were written about once but not for quite some time.
There is a Encyclopedia of Railroad Locomotive, or something like that, that the library has here, and I was too stupid to pickup at a antique store fifteen years ago, that gives a good rundown of the era of the end of steam and the beginning of Diesel, but I have never seen one for sale again.
Books such as that, would be my preference, as to buy singular local books will add up to, I have already done some checking, to hundreds of dollars, so a general, but era specific book, i guess is what I want.

It is hard to describe as there are books out now, some I have, but they all cover the well know locomotives steam and diesel from that era, and really ignore many of the import-export locomotives that were specific to a region or country.

Where do you get most of your books from, store, internet, or do you know of a good antique shop, sometimes they can have amazing things there, that you go to?
Have you found any euro books similar to the early locomotive spotter guides?
I am amazed that such a book does not exist, if it does not.

I am starting to ramble, so I will cut it off.
Where are you in Dakota, Sioux Falls area?
Bob

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Murphy,
Have you looked at these ?
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locationList.aspx?Level=3&ID=UK

For a guy who is so *busy*, you sure seem to spend a lot of time surfing the net for neat stuff.[;)]. Thanks for the link.

[nanaimo73]

Murphy,
Have you looked at these ?
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locationList.aspx?Level=3&ID=UK

Mississippi
Welcome to my first Trackside Guide. If you see any mistakes please let me know. I have been interested in the bridges over the Mississippi River for several years. I wrote to Trains magazine a couple of years ago to ask for an article on this subject. The Editor at the time wrote back and said they could not do one because of lack of information. I have spent a fair bit of time on this and I can understand what he meant. I do not have all of the information on them that I would like so I'm just going to make this an ongoing work in progress. I would enjoy reading anything on these bridges that anyone would like to post. There is a lot of information regarding traffic and bridge replacement dates that I cannot find. I would like to know the year each crossing first opened.I am not an expert on bridge types so I have stayed away from that area.A lot of the information here comes from Terraserver, and in some cases those images are 15 years old. I would like to thank Elliot (Big_Boy_4005), John Beaulieu and Dan Raitz for their help with the bridges in Minnesota. The bridges at the north end of the river are more numerous and generally shorter and therefore it has been difficult to find information on them. Trains magazine has had great coverage of this area over the years but not on the bridges.
I am amazed at the low number of pictures at rrpicturearchives that show these bridges. I would enjoy seeing any pictures anyone would like to post. I tried not to put any pop-up links in this post. This list has 56 bridges and I believe that is all of them. Perhaps those Steam Powered Video atlases may show another. I would not be surprised if a logging railroad in northern Minnesota had a bridge over the river, but SPV has just put out the Minnesota atlas and I have not seen it yet. I have also included 6 railferry crossings that are away from the bridges.

If you are not familiar with Terraserver, the links I have provided are not fixed, and you can use your mouse to follow the lines in any direction. If you want to return to the bridge just exit the link and use it again. You can change the magnifcation using the scale on the left, and I have most of the northern bridges on maximum. You can also use these links to look anywhere else you like by using the boxes on the left.
I have 25 bridges covered by Google's maps as well. These are usually better and easier to use but imcomplete in coverage so far. The google links will take you to maps and you can see the aerials by clicking on satellite.

The Mississippi River starts at Lake Itasca in Minnesota. Terraserver image From there it runs north and then east before turning south and draining into the Gulf of Mexico. Google image The current length is 2,340 miles, and in 1940 it was 2,555 miles. I am not aware of any rail connection running east and west which did not cross the river or the Canadian border.

Here is an interesting article on the early bridges built over the Ohio, Mississippi and Missouri Rivers.

With each bridge site I have included "Status", and to me good means the bridge will still be there in ten years and marginal means it could be abandoned.I have given each site a number for reference on this post and this number conflicts with official numbers. The first 27 sites are in inside Minnesota.

Bemidji
The first 4 bridges were right beside each other in Bemidji, Minnesota. Map
Bridge #1 was owned by the Minnesota, Red Lake and Manitoba Railway, which was abandoned in 1938.
Bridge #2 is a former Great Northern bridge on their route between Grand Forks and Duluth. The Duluth, Superior and Western had built from Duluth to Deer River and was heading for Winnipeg. In 1887 James J Hill bought it from Canadian Pacific.Great Northern subsidiary Eastern Railway of Minnesota built the line from Deer River through Bemidji and connected with GN in Fosston. The line opened on September 25, 1898. This is now a BNSF bridge.
Just to the north is bridge #3, which was on a Minneapolis, Saint Paul and Sault Ste. Marie route from Duluth to Thief River Falls which opened in 1910. The MSP&SSM became the Soo Line in 1961. The Soo Line abandoned their route in pieces and used the BN line more and more over the years. I'm not sure if CP still runs through here, but their bridge has abandoned. Just east of the bridge is the junction of Nymore. The MSP&SSM abandoned their line from Nymore to Schley, 26 miles to the east, in the 1950s and have been using more of the GN line since.
Bridge #4 belonged to the Minnesota and International which went from Brainerd to the Canadian Border at International Falls and passed through Nymore. They operated into town over a spur using this bridge. In 1941 the M&I was purchased by the Northern Pacific and they probably would have switched over to the GN bridge until the BN merger in 1970.
The view from Terraserver is from May of 1992.The Mississippi is traveling northward here from Lake Irving to Lake Bemidji. If you move the image to the west you can see what looks like a 1 engine, 8 car westbound sitting on the main in Bemidji. Just to the east you can see the layout at Nymore,including the wye.
Terraserver image A recent photo Area historical article
The last passenger service over these two bridges was by Soo Line trains 64 and 65 on May 16, 1959.
Status #1-abandoned
Status #2-good
Status #3-abandoned
Status #4-abandoned

Bemidji
Bridge #5 is also in Bemidji, about 3 miles from the first four. The Minnesota and International ran from Brainerd to the Canadian border at International Falls and became part of the Northern Pacific in 1941. BN abandoned this route in 1985.
The image from Terraserver is from May of 1991. The Mississippi leaves Lake Bemidji here and flows eastward. The railbridge is along the lakeshore and is now a hiking trail.Terraserver image Dan Raitz photo
Northern Pacific passenger service ended in the 1960s.
Status-abandoned

Ball Club
Bridge #6 is located west of Ball Club in Itasca county. This is part of the same former Great Northern route as bridge #2 and they are about 45 miles apart on this BNSF route. This line opened during September 1898. This Terraserver image is from May of 1991 and the river is flowing south, as it should. Passenger service ended before 1960.
Status-good

Grand Rapids
Bridge #7 is located just west of Grand Rapids. This was a Great Nothern line to an iron ore pit and this bridge is now used by BNSF to reach an Ainsworth oriented strand board plant. Terraserver image
Status-good

Jacobson
Bridge #8 was built by the Mississippi, Hill City and Western Railway Co. probably in 1910. The MHC&W became the Hill City Railway Company in 1915. The line ran from a connection with the Great Northern at Swan River west to Hill City in Aitkin County. I believe the portion from the bridge to Swan River had been built by the Duluth, Mississippi River and Northern starting in 1892.The Hill City Railway was abandoned during 1935. The crossing of the Mississippi was just north of Jacobson. You can trace the right of way traveling east-west through the field in this May 1991 image.Terraserver image
Status-abandoned

Palisade
Bridge #9 is in Palisade which is also in Aitken county. This is the second former Minneapolis, Saint Paul and Sault Ste. Marie crossing and is part of the same route as bridge #3 and they were about 90 miles apart. Duluth is 88 miles to the east. This Terraserver image from May of 1991 was taken after the line had been abandoned in the late 1980s.
Passenger service ended on May 16, 1959 on this line.
Status-abandoned

Next comes #10 and #11 in Brainerd.
Here is an article on area history

Brainerd
Bridge #10 was on a narrow gauge logging railroad that did not connect with the Northern Pacific.This location is now a road bridge as shown by Terraserver on May 1992.Terraserver image Historical article
Status-abandoned

Brainerd
Bridge #11 is on the former Northern Pacific mainline from Duluth to Fargo and is used by BNSF. This is the first line built by the Northern Pacific, heading west from Carlton, Minnesota in 1871.Brainerd was the headquarters of the Northern Pacific until they moved to St. Paul in 1877.
The Minnesota and International ran north from here and probably used this bridge. NP purchased the M&I in 1941.Terraserver image
Northern Pacific passenger service west to Fargo and north to International Falls ended in the 1960s.
Status-good

Crow Wing
Projected bridge. If you zoom in on this map of Minnesota in 1871 it shows a cutoff from Crow Wing to the Northern Pacific line west of Brainerd. A cutoff was built from Little Falls to Staples later on. This crossing may have been surveyed, but I think it's safe to say no bridge was built here.

Camp Ripley Junction
Bridge #12 is a joint road-rail bridge to the airport owned by Minnesota.
Terraserver image
Status-marginal

Little Falls
There are two bridges in Little Falls. The first link shows both and the next two links focus on them separately. The former Northern Pacific line from Minneapolis to the Duluth-Fargo line at Brainerd ran up the east side of the river. The first bridge here (#13) carried a line from Little Falls through Glenwood to Browns Valley. In 1889 a cutoff was built from Little Falls to Staples.The southern bridge (#14) was probably built by Northern Pacific later. The line north of Little Falls was abandoned between Camp Ripley and Brainerd. The yard at Little Falls has been moved over to the west side of the river and the line through town is now gone. The BNSF system map shows the line to Camp Ripley as being leased to the Minnesota National Guard.Terraserver image
Bridge #13
Terraserver image
Bridge #14. This view is from April 1991. There is a stack train 4 km north and a coal train 4 km south of here.Terraserver image
#14 is the third bridge used by Amtrak's Empire Builder as it heads west. Between June 5, 1971 and October 2, 1979 the North Coast Hiawatha used this bridge and the Empire Builder used the old GN route through Willmar.
Status #13-marginal
Status #14-good

Bowlus
Ten miles to the south is this bridge, #15, the third former Minneapolis, Saint Paul and Sault Ste. Marie bridge. This was on the Brooten line to Duluth, opened in 1909 and it was abandoned as a through route in 1990. The bridge would have been abandoned around 1993.The Soo Line crossed over the BNSF main and the highway on a bridge 2 miles east of here.This Terraserver image is from 1991.
Passenger service ended before 1960.
Status-abandoned

St. Cloud
Bridge #16 is in St. Cloud. The St. Paul and Pacific built up the west bank of the Mississippi from Minneapolis and crossed here into St. Cloud. This crossing opened on June 12, 1872 and the line then continued to Moorhead, just east of Fargo. In 1878 James J Hill bought the SP&P and changed the name to the St. Paul, Minneapolis and Manitoba. The SPM&M became the Great Northern and in 1970 the GN became part of Burlington Northern. During 2004 the Northern Lines Railway (Anacostia and Pacific) took over the 24 miles west of St. Cloud including the bridge in this April 1991 Terraserver image. Anacostia website.
Status-marginal

The next 10 locations are in the Minneapolis area and are covered in the Twin Cities Trackside supplement from the December 2003 Trains magazine. The first seven of them are in Minneapolis in a seven mile strech. This is a guide to the Twin Cities. An interseting railroad in the Twin Cities is the Twin Cities and Western.

Minneapolis
Bridge #17 is another former MSP&SSM bridge which now carries Canadian Pacific's mainline west from the Twin Cities. Constuction of the Minneapolis and Pacific Railway started in 1886 and reached the Canadian border at Portal, North Dakota during 1893. The M&PR was part of the Minneapolis, Sault Ste. Marie and Atlantic (which became the Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste Marie in 1888) and was aided by Canadian Pacific.
At the west end of the bridge is Camden Place, where an industrial line heads south and the Paynesville subdivision heads west through Humboldt yard. To the east is a bridge over part of BNSF's huge Northtown yard. Terraserver image
Google image Photo Photo
Status-good

Minneapolis
Bridge #18 is a former Northern Pacific bridge which is now on a BNSF spur from Northtown yard. My guess is that this bridge and bridge#22 were built to allow Northern Pacific passenger trains from St. Paul Union Depot to use the Great Northern Minneapolis station. Terraserver image Google image
Status-marginal

Minneapolis
Bridge #19 is the former Great Northern mainline heading west through Willmar. This was a St. Paul, Minneapolis and Manitoba route and the bridge opened May 1, 1867. This is still a busy BNSF route and the Twin Cities and Western uses this crossing as well. Terraserver image Terraserver image
Status-good

Minneapolis
Bridge #20 is the James J. Hill stone arch bridge which opened in 1883 after 19 months of construction. This bridge was designed by Charles C. Smith and used St. Cloud granite for 23 spans and a length of 2,100 feet. It was built by the Minneapolis Union Railway Company, which was owned by the St. Paul, Minneapolis and Manitoba. The SPM&M was leased to the Great Northern. Terraserver image Google image ASCE article article Photo Photo
Status-abandoned

Minneapolis
Bridge #21 was on the Minnesota Western Railway which was purchased by the Minneapolis and St. Louis Railroad in 1956. Terraserver image article
Status-abandoned

Minneapolis
Bridge #22 was a Northern Pacific bridge which is now a hiking trail. I believe it was constructed to allow Northern Pacific passenger trains from St. Paul Union Depot to use the Great Northern Minneapolis Station. Google image
Status-abandoned

Minneapolis
Bridge #23 was the former Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific mainline heading west. This was called the Short Line Bridge and opened on December 4, 1880. Canadian Pacific and Minnesota Commercial use this bridge although it is no longer on a through route and has been pared back to one track. Terraserver image Google image Photo
The Milwaukee Road ran passenger trains over this bridge until Amtrak started on May 1, 1971.
Status-marginal

The next three sites are in St. Paul.

St. Paul
Bridge #24 was part of the Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis and Omaha. The "Omaha Road" had been owned by the Chicago and North Western since 1882. This is part of Union Pacific's line to Omaha. The CMSP&P used this bridge as well and today this is joint UP-CP track. This crossing opened September 29, 1869 and the current bridge dates from 1915. Terraserver image Google image
Status-good

St. Paul
Bridge #25 is the former Chicago Great Western Robert Street lift bridge. Today this Union Pacific bridge is one of three lift bridges over the Mississippi, along with Hastings#28 and Hannibal#44. There was another lift bridge at Keithsburg.Terraserver image Google image
Status-good

St. Paul
Bridge #26 is from the St. Paul Bridge and Terminal, which was a Chicago Great Western subsidiary. The CGW and the SPB&T became part of the Chicago and North Western on July 1, 1968. This is now part of the Union Pacific.
Terraserver image Google image article
Status-good

Newport
Bridge #27 is just south of St. Paul at Newport. This was a Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific bridge. I don't know when this bridge opened and I believe it was used until the Rock Island shut down in March of 1980. Terraserver image Google image
The last passenger service across the bridge was the Plainsman in 1969.
Status-abandoned

Hastings
Bridge #28 is at Hastings and was used by the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific on their mainline from Chicago. This brought the line back to the east side of the river to enter St. Paul. The St. Paul and Chicago (part of the Milwaukee Road) opened the crossing here on December 9, 1871. The Milwaukee Road was the first railroad from Chicago to the Twin Cities with a route through Iowa completed four years earlier, and this bridge was part of a shorter route using the Winona and St. Peter Railroad. This is one of three lift spans over the river, with the others being St. Paul#25 and Hannibal#44. To the north under the highway bridge is the beginning of the former CMSP&P branch to Bayport and Stillwater. This crossed the BNSF mailine under the second highway bridge. West of here is St. Croix Tower and from here to St. Paul BNSF and Canadian Pacific jointly operate their lines. Terraserver image Google image Photo Photo
This is the second of three bridges used by Amtrak's Empire Builder.
Status-good

Wabasha
Bridge #29 is the first bridge site with Wisconsin on the east bank.
This bridge was from Read's Landing, Minnesota over to Trevino, Wisconsin and opened in July 1882. The Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific used this bridge on their branch to Eau Claire and Chippewa Falls. This was one of three CMSP&P pontoon bridges, with the others being in Prairie Du Chien (#33) and across the Missouri at Chamberlain, South Dakota. The bridge was abandoned in 1952 and the CMSP&P reached the branch over the CB&Q (later BN) until 1979 using the Winona#31 bridge. If you follow the former line to the north you will see the BNSF mainline and the connection that was used until 1979. Along the west bank is the Canadian Pacific mainline. There are about 50 cars stored along the line and to the south in this 1992 image is a former roundhouse in Wabasha.
Terraserver image
Status-abandoned

Winona
Bridge #30 was at Winona, Minnesota and was a Chicago and North Western bridge on their line to Rapid City. The first bridge here was built by the Winona and Saint Peter and opened on May 26, 1871. This bridge collapsed under the first train and a new bridge opened on January 21, 1872. The Milwaukee Road used this bridge until the W&SP fell under C&NW control. Abandonment for the bridge was approved on December 24, 1977. The C&NW used the CMSP&P bridge #32 at La Crosse to reach Winona after it closed. Terraserver image USACE article
Passenger service with the Rochester 400 ended on July 23, 1963.
Status-abandoned

Winona
Bridge #31 was just south of Winona and was a Chicago, Burlington and Quincy and Green Bay and Western bridge. This bridge was owned two-thirds by Chicago, Burlington and Quincy (later BN) and one-third by the Green Bay and Western. It opened in 1891 and was closed in 1985. After part of the bridge burned in 1989 it was dismantled in 1990. During 1988 Burlington Northern used subsidiary Winona Bridge Railway to run two man Expediter trains from Seattle to the Twin Cities in a fight against their unions. The Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific used this bridge from 1952 to 1979 to reach the Eau Claire branch after bridge #29 was abandoned. Just to the east of this image is the junction of the former Burlington Northern (Chicago, Burlington and Quincy) and the former Green Bay and Western. Terraserver image Photo article article article
58 b/w pictures of this bridge can be viewed on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #12
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
Status-abandoned

The April 1993 Trains has an article covering the river from La Crosse (#32) to Savanna (#35).

La Crosse
Bridge #32 is part of the mainline of the old Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific. The west side is just north of La Crescent and the east side is La Crosse. The La Crosse area is covered in the March 1999 Trains magazine. The La Crosse and Milwaukee Rail Road reached here in 1858. To reach St. Paul they used the Winona and St. Peter up the east bank and then into Winona on bridge #30 beginning in January 1872. The W&SP fell under the control of the Chicago and North Western which forced the Milwaukee Road to build this crossing at La Crosse. This route opened on November 27, 1876.
The Chicago and North Western used this bridge to reach Winona after bridge #30 closed in 1977, and now Union Pacific uses this route. This aerial view from May 1992 shows a swing span along the western shore. There is a second swing span over the Black River on the east end. The line goes under two roads and then comes the station and a yard and then the crossing with BNSF. Their yard starts north of the diamond. There is a train crossing the river in this image. It looks like a two engine 12 car eastbound Empire Builder between the swingspans.
Terraserver image Photo Photo
This is one of three bridges used by Amtrak's Empire Builder.
Status-good

Prairie du Chien
Bridge #33 was another Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific pontoon bridge linking North McGregor (now Marquette), Iowa and Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin. This bridge opened in 1874 and was abandoned on October 31,1961. This was featured in the January 1952 Trains magazine, which I don't have-yet ! I think it needs to be covered in Trains again. This bridge is also covered in the http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ link at the top of the page-
"The Pontoon Bridge
at Prairie du Chien was designed and constructed by Mr. John Lawler, to meet the particular wants of that community. It was built at a point where the river is divided by an island and is about 1 1/4 miles in width from shore to shore. Formerly passenger and freight cars were transfered by ferry boats which had to go around the head or foot of the island, making the distance from landing to landing nearly four miles; and when floating ice accumulated the river was frequently impassable. The construction of a bridge of either of the standard descriptions would have been parculiarly difficult or expensive. These circumstances led to the adoption of a system under which the bridge approaches on either shore, and the fixed portions of the bridge in low water and on the island, consist of piles, while in the channels of the river pontoons are placed, which are so combined and arranged as to form a railway bridge when the passage of trains is desirable; while when the use of the channels by steamboats or rafts is necessary the pontoons are temporarily removed. The pontoon in the east channel is made by uniting three ordinary transfer scows which have an aggregate length of 393 feet, and the pontoon in the west channel is a single-deck scow especially constructed for the purpose, 408 feet long, 28 foot beam and 6 feet in depth. Applications for the right to construct bridges of a similar plan at various other points on the Mississippi and elsewhere have been made and granted."
The Milwaukee Road became the first railroad to link Chicago with St. Paul in the fall of 1867 by using this bridge and heading west across Iowa before heading north. The CMSP&P line running along the west bank and the line across Iowa are now part of the Iowa, Chicago and Eastern.
Terraserver image Photo
Status-abandoned

Dubuque
Bridge #34 is between Dubuque, Iowa and East Dubuque in Illinois. This carried the Illinois Central west from Chicago. The first train crossed the bridge on January 1, 1869 and rails reached Sioux City during July 1870. Illinois Central became Illinois Central Gulf on August 10, 1972. This line was sold off to become the Chicago Central and Pacific on December 24, 1985 and in June 1996 it returned to the Illinois Central. IC was merged into Canadian Natioal in 1999. The Chicago, Burlington and Quincy had rights over this bridge into Dubuque, and they are still shown on the BNSF system map. The Chicago Great Western used this bridge on their mainline and they were merged into the Chicago and North Western on July 1, 1968. C&NW abandoned the Dubuque to Oelwein line during 1981. To the east the line passes through a tunnel before heading south for several miles along with the BNSF (CB&Q). Just to the west some switching is going on. This line also swings south on the west side to run along with the Iowa, Chicago and Eastern (ex CMSP&P) before heading across Iowa. Terraserver image Photos Photo Photos
Amtrak used this bridge for the Black Hawk from February 14, 1974 until September 30, 1981.
Status-good

Savanna
Bridge #35 is between Sabula, Iowa and Savanna, Illinois and was part of the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific line to Kansas City. The first bridge here opened in 1882 and it was replaced in 1906. The CMSP&P became part of the Soo Line on January 1, 1986 which became Canadian Pacific. In 1997 this was sold off to I&MRL which became the Iowa, Chicago and Eastern in 2002. The entire crossing here is over two miles long. To the east is a diamond which is about to be crossed by a northbound BN train. Terraserver image Photo ICE website Photo Photo Photo
The Milwaukee Road ran passenger trains from Chicago to Omaha over this line until the start of Amtrak on May 1, 1971.
Status-good

Clinton
Bridge #36 is at Clinton, Iowa on the old Chicago and North Western mainline to Omaha. The bridge here opened in 1865 and the C&NW was the first railroad to reach Council Bluffs in 1867. The present double track bridge was built in 1909. Today this is the mainline of the Union Pacific, one of the busiest railroad bridges over the river. The CB&Q had rights over this bridge to reach the north end of the DRI&NW. Just to the west is an approaching stack train. Only the first few cars are visible because the next image over was taken at a different time. Further west is the yard. The Iowa, Chicago and Eastern runs down the west bank and has a yard to the south. Trailryder has an interesting post on this bridge on page 5.
Terraserver image Photo
The C&NW operated passenger trains #1 and #2 (the former Kate Shelley 400) between Chicago and Clinton over this bridge until Amtrak began on May 1, 1971.
Status-good

Bridge #37 and #38 are in the Quad Cities and are about a mile and a half apart.

Rock Island
#37 is the Government bridge which was used by the Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific. The first railroad bridge across the Mississippi was built by the CRI&P in 1856 about 600 yards north of #36. A new bridge was built by the Corps of Engineers and opened in 1872 at the present site. This bridge was owned jointly by the Government and the CRI&P until 1980 when the CRI&P broke up. It is now owned by the Government and used by the Iowa Interstate. I consider the Government bridge to be a replacement for the original, and therefore the two are one site. The Iowa, Chicago and Eastern line to Kansas City runs down the west bank. Terraserver image Google image USACE article IAIS website
Rock Island passenger service to Kansas City and Omaha over this bridge ended in the 1960s.
Status-good

Davenport
Bridge #38 is the Crescent bridge now owned by BNSF. The Rock Island Bridge and Terminal Company started constuction of this bridge in 1897 and it opened in 1900. The Davenport, Rock Island and Northwestern took over in 1901, jointly owned by the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy and the Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Paul. In 1995 the owners split the Railway with CP Rail (Soo Line) getting the Iowa trackage and BN getting the Illinois trackage and the bridge. BNSF may close the bridge and use the Government bridge. Terraserver image
Status-marginal

Keithsburg
Bridge #39 was at first an Iowa Central Railway bridge (Photo) between West Keithsburg, Iowa and Keithsburg, Illinois. The Iowa Central became part of the Minneapolis and St. Louis on January 1, 1912 and the M&SL was purchased by the Chicago and North Western on November 1, 1960. Around 1912 the M&STL replaced the Iowa Central bridge with a lift span. The C&NW abandoned this line in 1971. Victrola1 has a very interesting post about this site on page 4.
Terraserver image
Status-abandoned

Burlington
Bridge #40 is at Burlington, Iowa and is on the former Chicago, Burlington and Quincy mainline from Chicago to Denver. This bridge opened in 1868 and with the affiliated Burlington and Missouri River this route reached the Missouri River at Plattsmouth in 1869. This is now a BNSF mainline. There is a medium sized yard just to the northwest. Terraserver Press release
The huge yard at Galesburg is 42 miles to the east. Terraserver image
This bridge is one of eight with Amtrak service and carries the California Zephyr.
Status-good

Fort Madison
Bridge #41 runs between Fort Madison, Iowa and Niota, Illinois on the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe transcon. The first bridge opened here in 1887. This was replaced by the two level bridge in 1927. The 525-foot swing span is the longest two level one in the world. There is a westbound double stack train to the west along the water front. There is a BNSF (CB&Q) line running down the west bank as well. Terraserver image Photo
14 b/w and 1 color photo of this bridge can be viewed on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #8
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
This bridge is used by Amtrak's Southwest Chief.
Status-good
[:)]WEBCAM-http://www.livetrains.com/indexer/73/content.htm

Keokuk
Bridge #42 brought the Toledo, Peoria and Western into Keokuk, Iowa. This bridge opened in 1870. The TP&W was merged into the ATSF in December 1983.Keokuk Junction Railway purchased 34 miles of track, including this bridge, from the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe in 1986. The Wabash, and later NS had rights over this bridge to reach Keokuk. The bridge is owned by the city of Keokuk and the upper deck roadway was closed when the road bridge to the south opened. There was an interurban crossing the river here (Keokuk Electric ?) but I doubt they had their own bridge. Terraserver image KJRY website KJRY site
101 b/w photos of this bridge can be seen on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #19
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
During the big flood in 1993 a Brill trolley car operated on the top of the Union Electric dam as area bridges were closed.
Status-marginal

Quincy
Bridge #43 is another Chicago, Burlington and Quincy bridge from Quincy, Illinois to West Quincy, Missouri which opened in 1868. The CB&Q used the Hannibal and St. Joseph to reach Kansas City in 1869. This is now BNSF's secondary Chicago to Kansas City route, with hotshots going through Fort Madison. Norfolk Southern had trackage rights over this bridge to reach Quincy after 1978. To the southwest is a fair sized yard. Terraserver image Google image Photo
Amtrak used this bridge with the Illinois Zephyr starting on November 14, 1971 until the Illinois Zephyr pulled back to Quincy (1995?).
Status-good

Hannibal
Bridge #44 runs between Hannibal, Missouri and East Hannibal, Illinois. This Wabash bridge opened in 1871 and is now a Norfolk Southern bridge. The lift span is on the west side, along with a diamond over the BNSF (CB&Q) line followed by the only tunnel that was on tha Wabash. The Wabash opened their route to Kansas City in 1894 by using trackage rights over a MKT line (which they later bought) from Hannibal to Moberly. The CB&Q, and later BN, had trackage rights over this bridge until 1978. To the west the line swings south to run beside the BNSF through town before heading west across Missouri. Terraserver image Google image
Trailryder Photo
Status-good
This 1999 view shows the railroad bridge to the north with the new road bridge underconstruction and the old road bridge to the south. Terraserver image
[:)]This website shows VIDEO of the old road bridge being blown up.


Louisiana
Bridge #45 crosses the river between Louisiana, Missouri and Quincy Junction in Illinois and was a Chicago and Alton bridge that opened in 1873. In 1878 the C&A had the shortest route from Chicago to Kansas City. The Baltimore and Ohio purchased the railroad in 1929 and sold it in 1945 to the Gulf, Mobile and Ohio. In 1972 the GM&O became part of Illinois Central Gulf, and they sold this line in 1987 when it became the Chicago, Missouri and Western. It is now Gateway Western, a part of Kansas City Southern. There is a BNSF (former CB&Q) mainline running along the west bank. Terraserver image Google image midwestplaces article article
Passenger service lasted until 1960 with a Gulf, Mobile and Ohio motor train between Kansas City and Bloomington, Illinois.
Status-marginal

Alton
Bridge #46 is another Chicago, Burlington and Quincy bridge that crossed at Alton, Illinois just north of St. Louis. This swingspan drawbridge was used by Burlington Northern until 1988. The bridge was about 100 yards north of the US 67 highway bridge pictured. Terraserver image
44 b/w photos can be viewed on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #10
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
Status-abandoned
Can someone tell me when this bridge was built ?

The next four sites cross into St. Louis from Illinois. They are about 3 miles apart. St. Louis site TRRA site

St. Louis
Bridge #47 is called Merchants bridge. It opened in 1890 and has been operated by Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis since. Terraserver image Google image midwestplaces article
Amtrak uses Merchants bridge for some of their Chicago-St. Louis trains
Status-good

St. Louis
Bridge #48 is called McKinley bridge, and was owned by the Illinois Terminal. Completion was in 1910 and in 1979 the Illinois Terminal moved over to Merchants bridge because the wooden eastern approach trestle was unsafe. Terraserver image Google image midwestplaces article restoration article
Passenger service ended with St. Louis to Granite City PCC cars on June 21, 1958.
Status-abandoned

St. Louis
Bridge #49 is Eads bridge. This was the first St. Louis bridge, opening in 1874. The Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis was formed in 1889 to run the bridge. The last rail traffic was in 1974 and the bridge was traded to the City in 1989. The St. Louis Metrolink light rail system now uses the bridge. The Gateway arch is on the west bank just to the north. Terraserver image Google image
midwestplaces article USACE article Photo
127 b/w and 1 color photo of this bridge can be seen on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #9
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
Eads bridge was used by Amtrak for the National Limited until October 1, 1979.
Status-abandoned (by railroads)

St. Louis
Bridge #50 is named MacArthur bridge. This was built by the city because the other two bridges were owned by the TRRA. MacArthur opened in 1907 and was traded to the TRRA in 1989. A train can be seen on the east end of the bridge.
Terraserver image Google image midwestplaces article
73 b/w photos of this bridge can be seen on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #18
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
Amtrak uses this bridge for their trains between Chicago and St. Louis.
Status-good

FERRY-The Missouri-Illinois Railroad operated in Illinois and in Missouri and connected here by boat. Service was from Ste. Genevieve, Missouri to Kellogg, Illinois between 1902 and July 18, 1961. Bridge #51 was then used until the M-I was merged into the Missouri Pacific. Terraserver image M-I article
There is a good article on the Mississippi River railferry routes in the January 1984 Trains magazine.

Thebes
Bridge #51 crosses between Illmo in Missouri and Thebes in Illinois and was built by the Southern Illinois and Missouri Bridge Company, owned by 5 railroads. Mergers made this a Missouri Pacific (60%) and St. Louis Southwestern (40%) bridge. The Thebes bridge opened on April 18, 1905. This is now a Union Pacific bridge and BNSF has trackage rights over the bridge from the UP+SP merger. This bridge, and the route to St. Louis, are covered in the May 1988 issue of Trains and again in the July 1998 issue. Terraserver image Google image
midwestplaces article article Photos Photos
The last regular passenger service here was on the Cotton Belt, ending in 1959.
Status-good

FERRY-The Missouri Pacific operated a ferry here until bridge #51 opened in 1905. The St. Louis Southwestern also operated here until 1909. The image shows the southern tip of Illinois with the Ohio River coming from the east to join the Mississippi. The services ran from Bird's Point in Missouri at the bottom of the image to Cairo. If you move the image to the north you can see the Illinois Central (now Canadian National) bridge over the Ohio. Terraserver image

FERRY-This run was between the St. Louis & Iron Mountain (later Missouri Pacific) at Belmont, Missouri over to the Mobile and Ohio in Columbus, Kentucky. Service ended in 1911. Terraserver image

Memphis
The next two bridges are beside each other at Memphis.
Bridge #52 is the Harahan bridge, the former Arkansas and Memphis Railway Bridge and Terminal Company (Missouri Pacific, Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific, and St. Louis Southwestern) bridge. This was opened in 1916 and is now used by Union Pacific.
Bridge #53 is the Frisco Bridge, opened in May of 1892 for the Kansas City, Fort Scott and Memphis. The KCFS&M became part of the St. Louis-San Francisco. SLSF joined Burlington Northern in 1980 and is now BNSF. The third bridge here is Interstate 55. To the west is Bridge Junction. The BNSF (SLSF) line crosses over the UP and heads northwest. After 20 miles this line separates at River Junction with one line going to St. Louis and the other to Springfield. The Union Pacific line at Briark Junction splits with the former Missouri Pacific line heading west for Bald Knob and the former Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific line (used by Cotton Belt) heads southwest for Brinkley and (formerly) Little Rock. To the east is IC Crossing. This is a Canadian National mainline used by Amtrak's City of New Orleans. 5 of the 11 diamonds are still there. Terraserver image Google image article article midwestplaces article ASCE article
61 b/w photos of these bridges can be seen on the following website by searching "mississippi bridge" and going to #14
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
Both bridges had passenger service in the 1960s over the Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific, the Missouri Pacific and the St. Louis-San Francisco. The CRI&P service ended on November 10, 1967. The SLSF service ended December 9, 1967.
Status #52-good
Status #53-good

FERRY-This route between Trotters Point in Mississippi and Helena was the only service the Illinois Central had into Arkansas. Service ended with a trestle fire in February 1972 and abandonment happened under ICG on February 7, 1973.
Terraserver image

Vicksburg
Bridge #54 is at Vicksburg and was built in 1930. This was on the Yazoo and Mississippi Valley, part of Illinois Central. The Y&MV had leased the Meridian to Shreveport route in 1926 was merged into the IC in 1946. ICG sold this line to Midsouth Rail Corporation on March 31, 1986 and they became part of KCS on January 1, 1994. You can see 2 trains if you move the image to the east. Terraserver image Google image midwestplaces article Photo
The last passenger service over the bridge were trains 205 and 208 on March 30, 1968.
Status-good

FERRY-This Missouri Pacific service operated between Natchez, Mississippi and Vidalia, Louisiana. Originally it was the Natchez and Louisiana Transfer Company, starting in 1900. The track in Natchez was called the Natchez and Southern Railway and was the only MP track in Mississippi. Service ended in the summer of 1982. Terraserver image

FERRY-This was part of the Louisiana Railway and Navigation route between New Orleans and Shreveport. The LR&N became the Louisiana and Arkansas in 1928 and is part of KCS today. The west bank was Naples and Angola is on the east bank. L&A moved onto Texas and Pacific running south from here on the west bank of the Mississippi and sold 17 miles into Angola to the West Feliciana Railway in 1943. Terraserver image

Baton Rouge
Bridge #55 lies just north of Baton Rouge. Construction started in 1937 and finished in August 1940. It was used by Gulf Coast Lines (Missouri Pacific) and Lousiana and Arkansas (Kansas City Southern). Google image
Passenger service with the KCS Southern Belle ended at the end of 1969.
Status-good

New Orleans
Bridge #56 is the last and the biggest. This is the Huey P. Long bridge, completed in 1935 . It is owned by the New Orleans Public Belt Railroad, which is owned by the city of New Orleans. Gretna is on the south (west) bank and Metairie is on the north (east) bank. To the south and west is West Bridge junction, where the NOPB meets the Union Pacific (ex Missouri Pacific) and BNSF (ex Southern Pacific). To the north and east is East Bridge Junction where NOPB connects with Canadian National (Illinois Central), Kansas City Southern (Louisiana and Arkansas) and Norfolk Southern. In this image from January, 1998 an eastbound trian is just about off the bridge with the tail end at the top of the photo. Terraserver image
Google image article
This is one of eight bridges with Amtrak service. The Los Angeles to Florida Sunset Limited uses this bridge.
New Orleans railfan site
Status-good

West of New Orleans is the Bonnet Carre' Spillway, crossed by two Canadian National (Illinois Central) lines and a Kansas City Southern line. This could be called part of the Mississippi when the river is high. USACE site

Amtrak currently uses eight of these bridges. The Empire Builder uses Little Falls#14, Hastings#28 and La Crosse#32. The California Zephyr uses Burlington#40 and the Southwest Chief uses Fort Madison#41. Chicago-St. Louis trains use St. Louis#47 and #50, and the Sunset Limited uses New Orleans#56.
Passenger trains operating on May 1, 1971

If you have any questions about railroads, try here- www.railroaddata.com

This is a terrific site. Although it is mostly covering road bridges, there are a lot of railroad bridges that are covered here. http://bridges.midwestplaces.com

PLEASE NOTE- The post above is meant to be a Trackside Guide and I will be updating it whenever I get more information. This will mean the following posts will become dated as I change things above. I do not have the ability to change the posts of other people (that would be fun). Their posts were really helpful to me when they were made.

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Amtrak 2006

This is a summary of the track used by Amtrak, and by my count this consists of 21,767 route miles. The current system is the smallest since Amtrak started during 1971.
I am listing each route by current ownership, traditional ownership (in blue) and mileage by state. A look at the Amtrak routes on May 1st, 1971 is at
Amtrak's Original Routes.

Statistics for passenger traffic at each station during 2004 and 2005 are on
this website.

The routes are covered in this order-
Western Long Distance Trains
1-Coast Starlight Seattle to Los Angeles 1,389 miles
2-Empire Builder Seattle to Chicago 2,206 miles
3-Empire Builder, Portland section Portland to Spokane 378 miles
4-California Zephyr Emeryville (Oakland) to Chicago 2,420 miles
5-Southwest Chief Los Angeles to Chicago 2,254 miles
6-Sunset Limited Los Angeles to Orlando 2,759 miles
7-Texas Eagle Chicago to San Antonio 1,307 miles
Other Western Trains
8-Heartland Flyer Fort Worth to Oklahoma City 209 miles
9-Pacific Surfliners Santa Barbara to San Diego 232 miles
10-San Joaquin Oakland to Bakersfield 315 miles
11-Amtrak Cascades Seattle to Vancouver B.C. 156 miles
Midwest Trains
12-Ann Rutledge Chicago to Kansas City 564 miles
13-Kansas City Mule, St. Louis Mule St. Louis to Kansas City 282 miles
14-Illinois Zephyr Chicago to Quincy 258 miles
15-City of New Orleans Chicago to New Orleans 932 miles
16-Wolverine Chicago to Pontiac 303 miles
17-Blue Water Chicago to Port Huron 319 miles
18-Pere Marquette Chicago to Grand Rapids 177 miles
Eastern Long Distance
19-Lake Shore Limited Chicago to New York City 959 miles
20-Lake Shore Limited, Boston section Albany-Rensselaer to Boston 199 miles
21-Capitol Limited Chicago to Washington 780 miles
22-Cardinal Chicago to New York City 1,154 miles
23-Pennsylvanian Pittsburgh to New York City 444 miles
24-Crescent New York City to New Orleans 1,380 miles
25-Silver Meteor New York City to Miami 1,392 miles
26-Silver Star New York City to Tampa 1,263 miles
27-Carolinian, Piedmont New York to Charlotte 702 miles
28-Auto Train Lorton VA to Sanford FL 860 miles
Other Eastern Trains
29-Newport News service New York to Newport News 416 miles
30-Maple Leaf New York City to Toronto 544 miles
31-Adirondack New York to Montreal 381 miles
32-Ethan Allen Express New York to Rutland 241 miles
33-Northern Northeast Corridor New York to Boston 231 miles
34-Vermonter Washington to St.Albans 606 miles
35-Downeaster Boston to Portland 115 miles


Western Long Distance Trains

1-Coast Starlight
Seattle, WA to Los Angeles, CA 1,389 miles
Current line ownership...Seattle, WA-186 miles BNSF-Portland, OR
-1,202 Union Pacific-Mission Tower, CA-1 Metrolink-Los Angeles, CA
Traditional line ownership...Seattle, WA-176 Northern Pacific-Vancouver, WA
-10 Spokane, Portland and Seattle-Portland, OR-1,202 Southern Pacific-
Mission Tower, CA-1 Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal-Los Angeles, CA
Station stops…Seattle WA, Tacoma WA, Lacey (Olympia) WA, Centralia WA,
...Kelso WA, Vancouver WA, Portland OR, Salem OR, Albany OR, Eugene OR, ...Chemult OR, Klamath Falls OR, Dunsmuir CA, Redding CA, Chico CA, ...Sacramento CA, Davis CA, Martinez CA, Emeryville CA, Oakland CA,
...San Jose CA, Salinas CA, Paso Robles CA, San Luis Obispo CA,
...Santa Barbara CA, Oxnard CA, Simi Valley CA, Van Nuys CA, Los Angeles CA
Mileage by State...Washington 177, Oregon 348, California 864
Website Photos

2-Empire Builder
Seattle, WA to Chicago, IL 2,206 miles
Current line ownership...Seattle, WA-1,788 BNSF-St. Anthony, MN-2 Minnesota Commercial-Merriam Park, MN-384 Canadian Pacific-Rondout, IL
-32 Metra-Chicago, IL
Traditional line ownership...Seattle, WA-316 Great Northern-Lyons, WA
-8 Burlington Northern-Sunset Jct., WA-68 Northern Pacific-Sandpoint, ID
-2 Burlington Northern-Boyer, ID-89 Great Northern-Ripley, MT-64 Burlington Northern-Stryker, MT-996 Great Northern-Moorhead, MN-177 Northern Pacific-
St Cloud, MN-68 Great Northern-St. Anthony, MN-2 Minnesota Transfer-
Merriam Park, MN-416 Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific-Chicago, IL
18 miles south of St. Paul between Hastings Street and St. Croix Tower also uses BNSF (ex CB&Q).
Station stops…Seattle WA, Edmonds WA, Everett WA, Wenatchee WA,
...Ephrata WA, Spokane WA, Sandpoint ID, Libby MT, Whitefish MT,
...West Glacier MT, Essex MT, East Glacier Park MT, Browning MT, Cut Bank MT, ...Shelby MT, Havre MT, Malta MT, Glasgow MT, Wolf Point MT, Williston ND, ...Stanley ND, Minot ND, Rugby ND, Devils Lake ND, Grand Forks ND, Fargo ND, ...Detroit Lakes MN, Staples MN, St. Cloud MN, St. Paul MN, Red Wing MN, ...Winona MN, LaCrosse WS, Tomah WS, Wisconsin Dells WS, Portage WS, ...Columbus WS, Milwaukee WS, Glenview IL, Chicago IL
Mileage by State...Washington 349, Idaho 102, Montana 668, North Dakota 424,
...Minnesota 380, Wisconsin 235, Illinois 48
Website Photos

3-Empire Builder, Portland section
Portland, OR to Spokane, WA 378 miles
Current line ownership...Portland, OR-378 BNSF-Spokane, WA
Traditional line ownership...Portland, OR-230 Spokane, Portland and Seattle-
SP&S Jct., WA-148 Northern Pacific-Spokane, WA
Station stops…Portland OR, Vancouver WA, Bingen WA, Wishram WA,
...Pasco WA, Spokane WA
Mileage by State...Oregon 9, Washington 369
Westbound trains use 10 miles of ex SP&S west of Spokane from Latah Jct. to Lakeside Jct.
Website

4-California Zephyr
Emeryville (Oakland), CA to Chicago, IL 2,420 miles
Current line ownership...Emeryville, CA-1,383 Union Pacific-Denver, CO
-1,036 BNSF-Roosevelt Road, IL-1 Amtrak-Chicago, IL
Traditional line ownership...Emeryville, CA-415 Southern Pacific-
Weso (Winnemucca), NV-181 Southern Pacific (westward) or Western Pacific (eastbound)-Alazon (Wells), NV-198 Western Pacific-Smelter, UT-18 Western Pacific or Union Pacific-Salt Lake City, UT-571 Denver and Rio Grande Western-Denver, CO-1,036 Chicago, Burlington and Quincy-Roosevelt Road, IL
-1 Chicago Union Station-Chicago, IL
Station stops…Emeryville CA, Martinez CA, Davis CA, Sacramento CA,
...Roseville CA, Colfax CA, Truckee CA, Reno NV, Sparks NV, Winnemucca NV, ...Elko NV, Salt Lake City UT, Provo UT, Helper UT, Green River UT,
...Grand Junction CO, Glenwood Springs CO, Granby CO, Fraser CO, Denver CO, ...Fort Morgan CO, McCook NE, Holdrege NE, Hastings NE, Lincoln NE,
...Omaha NE, Creston IW, Osceola IW, Ottumwa IW, Mt. Pleasant IW,
...Burlington IW, Galesburg IL, Princeton IL, Naperville IL, Chicago IL
Mileage by State...California 224, Nevada 465, Utah 389, Colorado 477,
...Nebraska 387, Iowa 274, Illinois 204
Website Photos

5-Southwest Chief
Los Angeles, CA to Chicago, IL 2,254 miles
Current line ownership...Los Angeles, CA-4 Metrolink-Redondo Jct., CA
-1,811 BNSF-Santa Fe Jct., MO-9 Kansas City Terminal-Sheffield Jct., MO
-26 BNSF-CA Jct., MO-29 Norfolk Southern-WB Jct., MO-374 BNSF-
Roosevelt Road, IL-1 Amtrak-Chicago, IL
Traditional line ownership...Los Angeles, CA-1 Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal-Mission Tower, CA-1,814 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe-
Santa Fe Jct., MO-9 Kansas City Terminal-Sheffield Jct., MO-26 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe-CA Jct., MO-29 Wabash-WB Jct., MO-203 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe-Cameron, IL-171 Chicago, Burlington and Quincy-Roosevelt Road, IL
-1 Chicago Union Station-Chicago, IL
Station stops…Los Angeles CA, Fullerton CA, Riverside CA, San Bernardino CA,
...Victorville CA, Barstow CA, Needles CA, Kingman AZ, Williams Junction AZ, ...Flagstaff AZ, Winslow AZ, Gallup NM, Albuquerque NM, Las Vegas NM,
...Lamy NM, Raton NM, Trinidad CO, La Junta CO, Lamar CO, Garden City KS, ...Dodge City KS, Hutchinson KS, Newton KS, Topeka KS, Lawrence KS,
...Kansas City MO, La Plata MO, Fort Madison IW, Galesburg IL, Princeton IL, ...Mendota IL, Naperville IL, Chicago IL
Mileage by State...California 333, Arizona 386, New Mexico 430, Colorado 181,
...Kansas 485, Missouri 202, Iowa 20, Illinois 217
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6-Sunset Limited
Los Angeles, CA to Orlando, FL 2,759 miles
Current line ownership...Los Angeles, CA-1 Metrolink-Mission Tower, CA
-1,710 Union Pacific-Beaumont, TX-2 Kansas City Southern-Tower 31, TX
-69 Union Pacific-Iowa Jct., LA-196 BNSF-West Bridge Jct., LA-5 New Orleans Public Belt-East Bridge Jct., LA-2 Canadian National-Southport Jct., LA
-1 Kansas City Southern-KCS Jct., LA-8 New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal-East City Jct., LA-4 Norfolk Southern-NOT Jct., LA-761 CSX-Orlando, FL
Traditional line ownership...Los Angeles, CA-1 Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal-Mission Tower, CA-1,710 Southern Pacific-Beaumont, TX
-2 Kansas City Southern-Tower 31, TX-265 Southern Pacific-West Bridge Jct., LA
-5 New Orleans Public Belt-East Bridge Jct., LA-2 Illinois Central-
Southport Jct., LA-1 Kansas City Southern-KCS Jct., LA-8 New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal-East City Jct., LA-4 Southern-NOT Jct., LA-399 Louisville and Nashville-Chattahoochee, FL-211 Seaboard Air Line-Jacksonville, FL-151 Atlantic Coast Line-Orlando, FL
Station stops…Los Angeles CA, Pomona CA, Ontario CA, North Palm Springs CA, ...Yuma AZ, Maricopa AZ, Tucson AZ, Benson AZ, Lordsburg NM, Deming NM,
...El Paso TX, Alpine TX, Sanderson TX, Del Rio TX, San Antonio TX, Houston TX, ...Beaumont TX, Lake Charles LA, Lafayette LA, New Iberia LA, Schriever LA,
...New Orleans LA, Bay St. Louis MS, Gulfport MS, Biloxi MS, Pascagoula MS, ...Mobile AL, Atmore AL, Pensacola FL, Crestview FL, Chipley FL, Tallahassee FL, ...Madison FL, Lake City FL, Jacksonville FL, Palatka FL, Deland FL,
...Winter Park FL, Orlando FL
Mileage by State...California 253, Arizona 389, New Mexico 170, Texas 933,
...Louisiana 287, Mississippi 75, Alabama 88, Florida 564
Two miles of NOUPT is used twice each way
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7-Texas Eagle
Chicago, IL to San Antonio, TX 1,307 miles (continues on to Los Angeles)
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-35 Canadian National-Joliet, IL-238 Union Pacific-WR Tower, IL-9 Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis-Grand Ave, MO-737 Union Pacific-Fort Worth, TX-129 BNSF-Temple, TX
-157 Union Pacific-San Antonio, TX
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL
-273 Gulf, Mobile and Ohio-WR Tower, IL-9 Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis-Grand Ave, MO-737 Missouri Pacific-Fort Worth, TX-129 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe-Temple, TX-40 Missouri Kansas Texas-Taylor, TX-115 Missouri Pacific-San Antonio, TX-2 Southern Pacific-San Antonio
South of Joliet to Pequot Amtrak can use 18 miles of BNSF (ATSF).
Station stops…Chicago IL, Joliet IL, Pontiac IL, Normal IL, Lincoln IL, Springfield IL, ...Alton IL, St. Louis MO, Poplar Bluff MO, Walnut Ridge AR, Little Rock AR, ...Malvern AR, Arkadelphia AR, Texarkana AR, Marshall TX, Longview TX,
...Mineola TX, Dallas TX, Fort Worth TX, Cleburne TX, McGregor TX, Temple TX, ...Taylor TX, Austin TX, San Marcos TX, San Antonio TX
Mileage by State...Illinois 278, Missouri 193, Arkansas 305, Texas 531
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8-Heartland Flyer
Fort Worth, TX to Oklahoma City, OK 209 miles
Current line ownership...Fort Worth, TX-209 BNSF-Oklahoma City, OK
Traditional line ownership...Fort Worth, TX-209 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe-Oklahoma City, OK
Station stops…Fort Worth TX, Gainesville TX, Ardmore OK, Pauls Valley OK,
...Purcell OK, Norman OK, Oklahoma City OK
Mileage by State...Texas 75, Oklahoma 134
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9-Pacific Surfliners
Santa Barbara, CA to San Diego, CA 232 miles
Current line ownership...Santa Barbara, CA-103 Union Pacific-Los Angeles, CA
-4 Metrolink-Redondo Jct., CA-22 BNSF-Fullerton, CA-41 Metrolink-
San Clemente, CA-62 San Diego Northern-San Diego, CA
Traditional line ownership...Santa Barbara, CA-103 Southern Pacific-
Los Angeles, CA-1 Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal-Mission Tower, CA
-128 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe-San Diego, CA
Station stops...Santa Barbara CA, Carpenteria CA, Ventura CA, Oxnard CA, ...Camarillo CA, Moorpark CA, Simi Valley CA, Chatsworth CA, Van Nuys CA, ...Burbank CA, Glendale CA, Los Angeles CA, Fullerton CA, Anaheim CA,
...Santa Ana CA, Irvine CA, San Juan Capistrano CA, San Clemente CA, ...Oceanside CA, Solana Beach CA, San Diego CA
Mileage by State...California 232
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10-San Joaquin
Oakland, CA to Bakersfield, CA 315 miles
Current line ownership...Oakland, CA-39 Union Pacific-Port Chicago, CA
-276 BNSF-Bakersfield, CA
Traditional line ownership...Oakland, CA-39 Southern Pacific-Port Chicago, CA-
276 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe-Bakersfield, CA
Sacramento, CA to Stockton, CA 48 miles
Sacramento, CA-48 Union Pacific ex Southern Pacific-Stockton, CA
Station stops…Oakland CA, Emeryville CA, Richmond CA, Martinez CA,
...Antioch CA, Stockton CA, Modesto CA, Denair CA, Merced CA, Madera CA, ...Fresno CA, Hanford CA, Corcoran CA, Wasco CA, Bakersfield CA
Sacramento CA, Lodi CA
Mileage by State...California 363
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11-Amtrak Cascades
Seattle, WA to Vancouver, BC 156 miles
Current line ownership...Seattle, WA-155 BNSF-Vancouver, BC
-1 Canadian National-Vancouver, BC
Traditional line ownership...Seattle, WA-155 Great Northern-Vancouver, BC
-1 Canadian National-Vancouver, BC
Station stops…Seattle WA, Edmonds WA, Everett WA, Mount Vernon WA, ...Bellingham WA, Vancouver BC
Mileage by State or Province...Washington 120, British Columbia 36
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Midwest Trains

12-Ann Rutledge
Chicago, IL to Kansas City, MO 564 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-35 Canadian National-Joliet, IL-238 Union Pacific-WR Tower, IL-9 Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis-Grand Ave., MO-274 Union Pacific-Rock Creek Jct., MO-6 Kansas City Terminal-Kansas City, MO
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL
-273 Gulf, Mobile and Ohio-WR Tower, IL-9 Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis-Grand Ave., MO-274 Missouri Pacific-Rock Creek Jct., MO-6 Kansas City Terminal-Kansas City, MO
South of Joliet, IL to Pequot, IL Amtrak can use 18 miles of BNSF (ATSF).
Station stops…Chicago IL, Summit IL, Joliet IL, Dwight IL, Pontiac IL, Normal IL, ...Lincoln IL, Springfield IL, Carlinville IL, Alton IL, St. Louis MO, Kirkwood MO, ...Washington MO, Herman MO, Jefferson City MO, Sedalia MO, Warrensburg MO, ...Lees Summit MO, Independence MO, Kansas City MO
Mileage by State...Illinois 278, Missouri 286
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13-Kansas City Mule, St. Louis Mule
St. Louis, MO to Kansas City, MO 282 miles
Current line ownership...St. Louis, MO-2 Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis-Grand Ave., MO-274 Union Pacific-Rock Creek Jct., MO-6 Kansas City Terminal-
Kansas City, MO
Traditional line ownership...St. Louis, MO-2 Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis-Grand Ave., MO-274 Missouri Pacific-Rock Creek Jct., MO-6 Kansas City Terminal-Kansas City, MO
Station stops...St. Louis MO, Kirkwood MO, Washington MO, Herman MO, ...Jefferson City MO, Sedalia MO, Warrensburg MO, Lees Summit MO, ...Independence MO, Kansas City MO
Mileage by State...Missouri 282
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14-Illinois Zephyr
Chicago, IL to Quincy, IL 258 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-1 Amtrak-Roosevelt Road, IL-257 BNSF-Quincy, IL
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-1 Chicago Union Station-Roosevelt Road, IL-
257 Chicago, Burlington and Quincy-Quincy, IL
Station stops…Chicago IL, La Grange Road IL, Naperville IL, Plano IL, Mendota IL, ...Princeton IL, Kewanee IL, Galesburg IL, Macomb IL, Quincy IL
Mileage by State...Illinois 258
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15-City of New Orleans
Chicago, IL to New Orleans, LA 932 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-1 Amtrak-Roosevelt Road, IL-927 Canadian National-Southport Jct., LA-1 Kansas City Southern-KCS Jct., LA-3 New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal-New Orleans, LA
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-1 Chicago Union Station-Roosevelt Road, IL-
927 Illinois Central-Southport Jct., LA-1 Kansas City Southern-KCS Jct., LA
-3 New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal-New Orleans, LA
Station stops…Chicago IL, Homewood IL, Kankakee IL, Champaign IL, Mattoon IL, ...Effingham IL, Centralia IL, Carbondale IL, Fulton KY, Newbern TN, Memphis TN, ...Greenwood MS, Yazoo City MS, Jackson MS, Hazlehurst MS, Brookhaven MS, ...McComb MS, Hammond LA, New Orleans LA
Mileage by State...Illinois 362, Kentucky 43, Tennessee 134, Mississippi 305,
...Louisiana 88
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16-Wolverine
Chicago, IL to Pontiac, MI 303 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-38 Norfolk Southern-Porter, IN-98 Amtrak-Kalamazoo, MI-135 Norfolk Southern-Townline, MI-4 Amtrak-CP West Detroit, MI-1 Conrail-Vinewood, MI-25 Canadian National-Pontiac, MI
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL-
14 Pennsylvania-Lake, IN-262 New York Central-Vinewood, MI-25 Grand Trunk Western-Pontiac, MI
Station stops…Chicago IL, Hammond-Whiting IN, Michigan City IN, Niles MI, ...Dowagiac MI, Kalamazoo MI, Battle Creek MI, East Lansing MI, Durand MI,
...Flint MI, Lapeer MI, Port Huron MI
Mileage by State...Illinois 14, Indiana 45, Michigan 244
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17-Blue Water
Chicago, IL to Port Huron, MI 319 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-38 Norfolk Southern-Porter, IN-98 Amtrak-Kalamazoo, MI-22 Norfolk Southern-Battle Creek, MI-159 Canadian National-Port Huron, MI
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL-
14 Pennsylvania-Lake, IN-144 New York Central-Battle Creek, MI-159 Grand Trunk Western-Port Huron, MI
Station stops…Chicago IL, Hammond-Whiting IN, Michigan City IN, Niles MI, ...Dowagiac MI, Kalamazoo MI, Battle Creek MI, Albion MI, Jackson MI,
...Ann Arbor MI, Dearborn MI, Detroit MI, Royal Oak MI, Birmingham MI, Pontiac MI
Mileage by State...Illinois 14, Indiana 45, Michigan 260
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18-Pere Marquette
Chicago, IL to Grand Rapids, MI 177 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-38 Norfolk Southern-Porter, IN-137 CSX-Grand Rapids, MI
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL-
14 Pennsylvania-Lake, IN-24 New York Central-Porter, IN-137 Chesapeake and Ohio-Grand Rapids, MI
Station stops…Chicago IL, Hammond-Whiting IN, Michigan City IN,
...New Buffalo MI, St. Joseph MI, Bangor MI, Holland MI, Grand Rapids MI
Mileage by State...Illinois 14, Indiana 46, Michigan 117
Trains magazine has printed 2 or 3 maps showing this train going through Kalamazoo
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Eastern Long Distance

19-Lake Shore Limited
Chicago, IL to New York City, NY 959 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-339 Norfolk Southern-Cleveland, OH-455 CSX-Hoffmans, NY-8 Amtrak-Carmen Jct., NY-82 CSX-Poughkeepsie, NY-62 Metro North-Spuyten Duyvil, NY-11 Amtrak-
New York, NY
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL-
14 Pennsylvania-Lake, IN-940 New York Central-West Side Connection, NY
-3 Amtrak-New York, NY
Station stops…Chicago IL, South Bend IN, Waterloo IN, Bryan OH, Toledo OH, ...Sandusky OH, Elyria OH, Cleveland OH, Erie PA, Depew (Buffalo) NY, ...Rochester NY, Syracuse NY, Utica NY, Schenectady NY, Rensselaer NY, ...Croton-on-Hudson NY, New York NY
Mileage by State...Illinois 14, Indiana 155, Ohio 243, Pennsylvania 43,
...New York 504
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20-Lake Shore Limited, Boston section
Albany-Rensselaer, NY to Boston, MA 199 miles
Current line ownership...Albany, NY-11 Amtrak-Post Road, NY-167 CSX-Framingham, MA-20 MBTA-Back Bay, MA-1 Amtrak-Boston, MA
Traditional line ownership...Albany, NY-198 New York Central-Back Bay, MA
-1 New York, New Haven and Hartford-Boston, MA
Station stops…Chicago IL, South Bend IN, Waterloo IN, Bryan OH, Toledo OH, ...Sandusky OH, Elyria OH, Cleveland OH, Erie PA, Depew (Buffalo) NY, ...Rochester NY, Syracuse NY, Utica NY, Schenectady NY, Rensselaer NY, ...Pittsfield MA, Springfield MA, Worcester MA, Framingham MA,
...Boston-Back Bay MA, Boston MA
Mileage by State...New York 38, Massachusetts 161
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21-Capitol Limited
Chicago, IL to Washington, DC 780 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-480 Norfolk Southern-
CP Bloom, PA-297 CSX-NEC, DC-1 Amtrak-Washington, DC
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL-
14 Pennsylvania-Lake, IN-325 New York Central-Cleveland, OH-141 Pennsylvania-
CP Bloom, PA-145 Baltimore and Ohio-Mount Savage Jct., MD-3 Cumberland and Pennsylvania-Cumberland, MD-149 Baltimore and Ohio-NEC, DC-1 Pennsylvania-Washington, DC
Station stops…Chicago IL, South Bend IN, Waterloo IN, Toledo OH, Sandusky OH, ...Elyria OH, Cleveland OH, Alliance OH, Pittsburgh PA, Connellsville PA, ...Cumberland MD, Martinsburg WV, Harpers Ferry WV, Rockville MD,
...Washington DC
Mileage by State...Illinois 14, Indiana 155, Ohio 262, Pennsylvania 196,
...West Virginia 86, Maryland 61, District of Columbia 6
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22-Cardinal
Chicago, IL to New York City, NY 1,154 miles
Current line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Amtrak-21st Street, IL-6 Metra-
74th Street, IL-1 Norfolk Southern-81st Street, IL-1 Belt Railway of Chicago-
83rd Street, IL-11 Union Pacific-Thornton Jct., IL-6 Canadian National-Maynard, IN-691 CSX-Clifton Forge, VA-126 Buckingham Branch-Orange, VA-76 Norfolk Southern-AF, VA-6 CSX-RO, VA-2 Norfolk Southern-CP Virginia, DC-226 Amtrak-New York, NY
Traditional line ownership...Chicago, IL-2 Chicago Union Station-21st Street, IL-
15 Chicago and Western Indiana-Dolton, IL-4 Chicago and Eastern Illinois-
Thornton Jct., IL-6 Grand Trunk Western-Maynard, IN-121 Chicago, Indianapolis and Louisville (Monon)-Crawfordsville, IN-34 New York Central-Clermont, IN
-13 Pennsylvania-Indianapolis, IN-132 Baltimore and Ohio-Cincinnati, OH
-517 Chesapeake and Ohio-Orange, VA-76 Southern-AF, VA-6 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac-RO, VA-228 Pennsylvania-New York, NY
Station stops…Chicago IL, Dyer IN, Rensselaer IN, Lafayette IN, Crawfordsville IN, ...Indianapolis IN, Connersville IN, Cincinnati OH, Maysville KY, South Shore KY, ...Ashland KY, Huntington WV, Charleston WV, Montgomery WV, Thurmond WV, ...Prince WV, Hinton WV, Alderson WV, White Sulphur Springs WV,
...Clifton Forge VA, Staunton VA, Charlottesville VA, Culpeper VA, Manassas VA, ...Alexandria VA, Washington DC, Baltimore MD, Wilmington DE,
...Philadelphia PA, Trenton NJ, Newark NJ, New York NY
Mileage by State...Illinois 26, Indiana 254, Ohio 48, Kentucky 150,
...West Virginia 211, Virginia 237, District of Columbia 8, Maryland 90,
...Delaware 22, Pennsylvania 49, New Jersey 57, New York 2
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23-Pennsylvanian
Pittsburgh, PA to New York, NY 444 miles
Current line ownership...Pittsburgh, PA-249 Norfolk Southern-Harrisburg, PA
-195 Amtrak-New York, NY
Traditional line ownership...Pittsburgh, PA-444 Pennsylvania-New York, NY
Station stops…Pittsburgh PA, Greensburg PA, Johnstown PA, Altoona PA,
...Tyrone PA, Huntingdon PA, Lewistown PA, Harrisburg PA, Lancaster PA,
...Paoli PA, Philadelphia PA, Trenton NJ, Newark NJ, New York NY
Mileage by State...Pennsylvania 385, New Jersey 57, New York 2
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24-Crescent
New York, NY to New Orleans, LA 1,380 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-226 Amtrak-CP Virginia, DC-2 Norfolk Southern-RO, VA-6 CSX-AF, VA-1,142 Norfolk Southern-East City Junction, LA
-4 New Orleans Union-Passenger Terminal-New Orleans, LA
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-228 Pennsylvania-RO, VA-6 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac-AF, VA-1,142 Southern-East City Junction, LA
-4 New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal-New Orleans, LA
Station stops…New York NY, Newark NJ, Trenton NJ, Philadelphia PA,
...Wilmington DE, Baltimore MD, Washington DC, Alexandria VA, Manassas VA, ...Culpeper VA, Charlottesville VA, Lynchburg VA, Danville VA, Greensboro NC, ...High Point NC, Salisbury NC, Charlotte NC, Gastonia NC, Spartanburg SC, ...Greenville SC, Clemson SC, Toccoa GA, Gainesville GA, Atlanta GA,
...Anniston AL, Birmingham AL, Tuscaloosa AL, Meridian MS, Laurel MS, ...Hattiesburg MS, Picayune MS, Slidell LA, New Orleans LA
Mileage by State...New York 2, New Jersey 57, Pennsylvania 49, Delaware 22,
...Maryland 90, District of Columbia 8, Virginia 237, North Carolina 182,
...South Carolina 123, Georgia 157, Alabama 232, Mississippi 173, Louisiana 48
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25-Silver Meteor
New York, NY to Miami, FL 1,392 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-226 Amtrak-CP Virginia, DC-2 Norfolk Southern-RO, VA-1,098 CSX-Mangonia Park, FL-66 Tri-Rail Commuter-Miami, FL
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-228 Pennsylvania-RO, VA
-112 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac-Richmond, VA-839 Atlantic Coast Line-Auburndale, FL-213 Seaboard Air Line-Miami, FL
Station stops…New York NY, Newark NJ, Trenton NJ, Philadelphia PA,
...Wilmington DE, Baltimore MD, Washington DC, Alexandria VA, Richmond VA, ...Petersburg VA, Rocky Mount NC, Wilson NC, Selma NC, Fayetteville NC, ...Dillon SC, Florence SC, Kingstree SC, North Charleston SC, Yemassee SC, ...Savannah GA, Jesup GA, Jacksonville FL, Palatka FL, De Land FL,
...Winter Park FL, Orlando FL, Kissimmee FL, Winter Haven FL, Sebring FL, ...Okeechobee FL, West Palm Beach FL, Delray Beach FL, Deerfield Beach FL,
...Fort Lauderdale FL, Hollywood FL, Miami FL
Mileage by State...New York 2, New Jersey 57, Pennsylvania 49, Delaware 22,
...Maryland 90, District of Columbia 8, Virginia 186, North Carolina 181,
...South Carolina 220, Georgia 126, Florida 451
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26-Silver Star
New York, NY to Tampa, FL 1,263 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-226 Amtrak-CP Virginia, DC-2 Norfolk Southern-RO, VA-274 CSX-Selma, NC-36 Norfolk Southern-Cary, NC
-725 CSX-Tampa, FL
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-228 Pennsylvania-RO, VA
-112 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac-Richmond, VA-162 Atlantic Coast Line-Selma, NC-36 Southern-Cary, NC-323 Seaboard Air Line-Savannah, GA
-402 Atlantic Coast Line-Tampa, FL
From Raleigh to Cary trains can use NS (Southern) or CSX (SAL) track for 8 miles.
Station stops…New York NY, Newark NJ, Trenton NJ, Philadelphia PA,
...Wilmington DE, Baltimore MD, Washington DC, Alexandria VA, Richmond VA, ...Petersburg VA, Rocky Mount NC, Wilson NC, Selma NC, Raleigh NC,
...Southern Pines NC, Hamlet NC, Camden SC, Columbia SC, Denmark SC, ...Savannah GA, Jesup GA, Jacksonville FL, Palatka FL, De Land FL,
...Winter Park FL, Orlando FL, Kissimmee FL, Lakeland FL, Tampa FL
Mileage by State...New York 2, New Jersey 57, Pennsylvania 49, Delaware 22,
...Maryland 90, District of Columbia 8, Virginia 186, North Carolina 224,
...South Carolina 202, Georgia 143, Florida 280
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27-Carolinian
New York, NY to Charlotte, NC 702 miles
Piedmont Raleigh, NC to Charlotte, NC 172 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-226 Amtrak-CP Virginia, DC-2 Norfolk Southern-RO, VA-274 CSX-Selma, NC-200 Norfolk Southern-Charlotte, NC
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-228 Pennsylvania-RO, VA
-112 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac-Richmond, VA-162 Atlantic Coast Line-Selma, NC-200 Southern-Charlotte, NC
From Raleigh to Cary trains can use NS (Southern) or CSX (SAL) track for 8 miles.
Station stops…New York NY, Newark NJ, Iselin NJ, Trenton NJ, Philadelphia PA, ...Wilmington DE, Baltimore MD, Washington DC, Alexandria VA, Quantico VA, ...Fredericksburg VA, Richmond VA, Petersburg VA, Rocky Mount NC, Wilson NC, ...Selma NC, Raleigh NC, Cary NC, Durham NC, Burlington NC, Greensboro NC, ...High Point NC, Salisbury NC, Kannapolis NC, Charlotte NC
Mileage by State...New York 2, New Jersey 57, Pennsylvania 49, Delaware 22,
...Maryland 90, District of Columbia 8, Virginia 186, North Carolina 288
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28-Auto Train
Lorton, VA to Sanford, FL 860 miles
Current line ownership...Lorton, VA-860 CSX-Sanford, FL
Traditional line ownership...Lorton, VA-94 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac-Richmond, VA-766 Atlantic Coast Line-Sanford, FL
Station stops...Lorton VA, Sanford FL
Mileage by State...Virginia 168, North Carolina 181, South Carolina 220,
...Georgia 126, Florida 165
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29-Newport News service
New York, NY to Newport News, VA 416 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-226 Amtrak-CP Virginia, DC-2 Norfolk Southern-RO, VA-188 CSX-Newport News, VA
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-228 Pennsylvania-RO, VA
-112 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac-Richmond, VA-4 Seaboard Air Line-AM, VA-72 Chesapeake and Ohio-Newport News, VA
Station stops…New York NY, Newark NJ, Iselin NJ, Trenton NJ, Philadelphia PA, ...Wilmington DE, Baltimore MD, Washington DC, Alexandria VA, Quantico VA, ...Fredericksburg VA, Richmond VA, Williamsbug VA, Newport News VA
Mileage by State...New York 2, New Jersey 57, Pennsylvania 49, Delaware 22,
...Maryland 90, District of Columbia 8, Virginia 188
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30-Maple Leaf
New York, NY to Toronto, ON 544 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-11 Amtrak-Spuyten Duyvil, NY-62 Metro North-Poughkeepsie, NY-82 CSX-Carmen Jct., NY-8 Amtrak-Hoffmans, NY
-298 CSX-Niagara Falls, NY-83 Canadian National-Toronto, ON
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-3 Amtrak-West Side, NY-458 New York Central-Niagara Falls, NY-83 Canadian National-Toronto, ON
Station stops...New York NY, Yonkers NY, Croton-on-Hudson NY,
...Poughkeepsie NY, Rhinecliff NY, Hudson NY, Rensselaer NY, Schenectady NY, ...Amsterdam NY, Utica NY, Rome NY, Syracuse NY, Rochester NY, Depew NY, ...Buffalo NY, Niagara Falls NY, Niagara Falls ON, St. Catherines ON,
...Grimsby ON, Aldershot ON, Oakville ON, Toronto ON
Mileage by State or Province...New York 461, Ontario 83
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31-Adirondack
New York, NY to Montreal, PQ 381 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-11 Amtrak-Spuyten Duyvil, NY-62 Metro North-Poughkeepsie, NY-82 CSX-Carmen Jct., NY-4 Amtrak-Schenectady, NY
-173 Canadian Pacific-Rouses Point, NY-49 Canadian National-Montreal, PQ
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-3 Amtrak-West Side, NY-156 New York Central-Schenectady, NY-173 Delaware and Hudson-Rouses Point, NY
-49 Canadian National-Montreal, PQ
Station stops...New York NY, Yonkers NY, Croton-on-Hudson NY,
...Poughkeepsie NY, Rhinecliff NY, Hudson NY, Rensselaer NY, Schenectady NY, ...Saratoga Springs NY, Fort Edward NY, Whitehall NY, Fort Ticonderoga NY,
...Port Henry NY, Westport NY, Port Kent NY, Plattsburg NY,
...Rouses Point NY, St. Lambert PQ, Montreal PQ
Mileage by State or Province...New York 332, Quebec 49
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32-Ethan Allen Express
New York, NY to Rutland, VT 241 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-11 Amtrak-Spuyten Duyvil, NY-62 Metro North-Poughkeepsie, NY-82 CSX-Carmen Jct., NY-4 Amtrak-Schenectady, NY
-59 Canadian Pacific-Whitehall, NY-23 Clarendon and Pittsford-Rutland, VT
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-3 Amtrak-West Side, NY-156 New York Central-Schenectady, NY-82 Delaware and Hudson-Rutland, VT
Station stops...New York NY, Yonkers NY, Croton-on-Hudson NY,
...Poughkeepsie NY, Rhinecliff NY, Hudson NY, Rensselaer NY, Schenectady NY, ...Saratoga Springs NY, Fort Edward NY, Fair Haven VT, Rutland VT
Mileage by State...New York 224, Vermont 17
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33-Northern Northeast Corridor
New York, NY to Boston, MA 231 miles
Current line ownership...New York, NY-18 Amtrak-New Rochelle, NY
-56 Metro North-New Haven, CT-157 Amtrak-Boston, MA
Traditional line ownership...New York, NY-6 Pennsylvania-Sunnyside Jct., NY-
3 New York Connecting-Port Morris, NY-222 New York, New Haven and Hartford-Boston, MA
Station stops...New York NY, New Rochelle NY, Stamford CT, Bridgeport CT,
...New Haven CT, Old Saybrook CT, New London CT, Mystic CT, Westerly RI,
...West Kingston RI, Providence RI, Westwood MA, Boston-Back Bay MA,
...Boston MA
Mileage by State...New York 29, Connecticut 115, Rhode Island 51,
...Massachusetts 36
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34-Vermonter
Washington, DC to St. Albans, VT 606 miles
Current line ownership...Washington, DC-244 Amtrak-New Rochelle, NY
-56 Metro North-New Haven, CT-55 Amtrak-Springfield, MA-15 CSX-Palmer, MA-236 New England Central-St. Albans, VT
Traditional line ownership...Washington, DC-232 Pennsylvania-Sunnyside Jct., NY-
3 New York Connecting-Port Morris, NY-120 New York, New Haven and Hartford-Springfield, MA-15 New York Central-Palmer, MA-55 Central Vermont-
Brattleboro, VT-49 Boston and Maine-Windsor, VT-132 Central Vermont-
St. Albans, VT
Station stops...Washington DC, New Carrollton MD, Baltimore-BWI MD,
...Baltimore MD, Wilmington DE, Philadelphia PA, Trenton NJ, Iselin NJ,
...Newark NJ, New York NY, Stamford CT, Bridgeport CT, New Haven CT,
...Meriden CT, Kensington CT, Hartford CT, Springfield MA, Amherst MA, ...Brattleboro VT, Bellows Falls VT, Claremont NH, Windsor VT,
...White River Junction VT, Randolph VT, Montpelier VT, Waterbury VT,
...Essex Jct. VT, St. Albans VT
Mileage by State…District of Columbia 6, Maryland 90, Delaware 22,
...Pennsylvania 49, New Jersey 57, New York 31, Connecticut 95,
...Massachusetts 65, New Hampshire 25, Vermont 166
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35-Downeaster
Boston, MA to Portland, ME 115 miles
Current line ownership...Boston, MA-37 MBTA-Plaistow, NH-78 Guilford-
Portland, ME
Traditional line ownership...Boston, MA-115 Boston and Maine-Portland, ME
Station stops...Boston MA, Woburn MA, Haverhill MA, Exeter NH, Durham NH, ...Dover NH, Wells ME, Saco ME, Old Orchard Beach ME, Portland ME
Mileage by State...Massachusetts 36, New Hampshire 35, Maine 44
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Current Track Ownership Summary
6,482 BNSF…Coast Starlight 186…Empire Builder 1,806…
...Portland Empire Builder 378…California Zephyr 1,036…Southwest Chief 2,211
…Sunset 196…Texas Eagle 147…Heartland Flyer 209…Pacific Surfliner 22…
...San Joaquin 276…Cascades 155…Illinois Zephyr 257
5,751 Union Pacific…Coast Starlight 1,202…California Zephyr 1,383…
...Sunset 1,779…Pacific Surfliners 103...San Joaquin 87…Texas Eagle 1,132…
...Ann Rutledge 512...Kansas City, St. Louis Mule 274...Cardinal 11
4,013 CSX…Sunset 761…Pere Marquette 137…Lake Shore Limited 537
…Capitol Limited 297...Cardinal 697…Crescent 6…Silver Meteor 1,098…
...Silver Star 1,007...Carolinian 274...Auto Train 860...Newport News line 188…
...Maple Leaf 380...Adirondack 82…Ethan Allen Express 82…
...Boston Lake Shore Limited 167...Vermonter 15
2,147 Norfolk Southern…Southwest Chief 29…Sunset 4…Wolverine 173…
...Blue Water 60…Pere Marquette 38…Lake Shore Limited 339…
...Capitol Limited 480…Cardinal 79…Pennsylvanian 249…Crescent 1,144…
...Silver Meteor 2…Silver Star 38…Carolinian 202...Newport News 2
1,285 Canadian National…Sunset 2…Texas Eagle 35…Cascades 1…
...Ann Rutledge 35...City of New Orleans 927…Wolverine 25…
...Blue Water 159...Cardinal 6...Maple Leaf 83…Adirondack 49
691 Amtrak…California Zephyr 1…Southwest Chief 1…Texas Eagle 2…
...Illinois Zephyr 1…City of New Orleans 1…Ann Rutledge 2...Wolverine 104…
...Blue Water 100...Pere Marquette 2…Lake Shore Limited 21…Capitol Limited 3...
...Cardinal 228...Pennsylvanian 195…Crescent 226…Silver Meteor 226…
...Silver Star 226…Carolinian 226...Newport News 226...Maple Leaf 19…
...Adirondack 15…Ethan Allen Express 15...Northern Northeast Corridor 175…
...Boston Lake Shore Limited 12...Vermonter 299
557 Canadian Pacific…Empire Builder 384…Adirondack 173…
...Ethan Allen Express 59
236 New England Central…Vermonter 236
126 Buckingham Branch...Cardinal 126
118 Metro North…Lake Shore Limited 62…Maple Leaf 62…Adirondack 62…
...Ethan Allen Express 62…Northern Northeast Corridor 56…Vermonter 56
78 Guilford...Downeaster 78
66 Tri-Rail Commuter…Silver Meteor 66
62 San Diego Northern…Pacific Surfliner 62
57 MBTA…Boston Lake Shore Limited 20...Downeaster 37
45 Metrolink…Coast Starlight 1…Southwest Chief 4…Sunset 1…
...Pacific Surfliner 45
38 Metra…Empire Builder 32...Cardinal 6
23 Clarendon and Pittsford…Ethan Allen Express 23
9 Kansas City Terminal…Southwest Chief 9…Ann Rutledge 9...
...Kansas City, St Louis Mule 6
9 Terminal Railroad Association…Texas Eagle 9…Ann Rutledge 9...
...Kansas City, St. Louis Mule 2
6 New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal…Sunset 6…City of New Orleans 3
…Crescent 4
5 New Orleans Public Belt…Sunset 5
3 Kansas City Southern…Sunset 3…City of New Orleans 1
2 Minnesota Commercial…Empire Builder 2
1 Belt Railway of Chicago...Cardinal 1
1 Conrail…Wolverine 1
21,746 total

Heritage Ownership (route mileage, overlap removed)
3,746 Southern Pacific…Coast Starlight 1,202…California Zephyr 596…
...Sunset 1,975…Texas Eagle 2…Pacific Surfliners 103...San Joaquin 87
2,778 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe…Southwest Chief 2,043…
...Texas Eagle 147…Heartland Flyer 209…Pacific Surfliner 128…San Joaquin 276
1,592 Great Northern…Empire Builder 1,469…Cascades 155
1,435 New York Central…Wolverine 262…Blue Water 144…Pere Marquette 24
…Lake Shore Limited 940…Capitol Limited 325...Cardinal 34…Maple Leaf 458…
...Adirondack 156…Ethan Allen Express 156…Boston Lake Shore Limited 198…
...Vermonter 15
1,251 Southern…Sunset 4...Cardinal 76…Crescent 1,142…Silver Star 36…
...Carolinian 200
1,150 Chicago, Burlington and Quincy…Empire Builder 18...
...California Zephyr 1,036...Southwest Chief 171…Illinois Zephyr 257
1,125 Missouri Pacific…Texas Eagle 852…Ann Rutledge 274...
...Kansas City, St. Louis Mule 274
927 Illinois Central…Sunset 2…City of New Orleans 927
883 Atlantic Coast Line…Sunset 151…Silver Meteor 839…Silver Star 564
...Carolinian 162...Auto Train 766
759 Seaboard Air Line…Sunset 211…Silver Meteor 213…Silver Star 331…
...Newport News line 4
755 Pennsylvania…Wolverine 14…Blue Water 14…Pere Marquette 14…
...Lake Shore Limited 14…Capitol Limited 156...Cardinal 241…
...Pennsylvanian 444…Crescent 228…Silver Meteor 228…Silver Star 228…
...Carolinian 228...Newport News line 228...Northern Northeast Corridor 6…
...Vermonter 232
726 Chesapeake and Ohio…Pere Marquette 137...Cardinal 517…
...Newport News line 72
571 Denver and Rio Grande Western…California Zephyr 571
568 Northern Pacific…Coast Starlight 176…Empire Builder 245…
...Portland Empire Builder 148
426 Baltimore and Ohio…Capitol Limited 294...Cardinal 132
416 Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific…Empire Builder 416
399 Louisville and Nashville…Sunset 399
397 Western Pacific…California Zephyr 397
274 New York, New Haven and Hartford…Northern Northeast Corridor 222…
...Boston Lake Shore Limited 1…Vermonter 120
273 Gulf, Mobile and Ohio…Texas Eagle 273...Ann Rutledge 273
240 Spokane, Portland and Seattle…Coast Starlight 10…
...Portland Empire Builder 240
196 Delaware and Hudson…Adirondack 173…Ethan Allen Express 82
190 Grand Trunk Western…Wolverine 25…Blue Water 159...Cardinal 6
187 Central Vermont…Vermonter 187
164 Boston and Maine…Vermonter 49...Downeaster 115
133 Canadian National…Cascades 1…Maple Leaf 83…Adirondack 49
121 Chicago, Indianapolis and Louisville (Monon) ...Cardinal 121
112 Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac...Cardinal 6…Crescent 6…
...Silver Meteor 112…Silver Star 112...Carolinian 112...Auto Train 94...
...Newport News line 112
74 Burlington Northern…Empire Builder 74
40 Missouri Kansas Texas…Texas Eagle 40
29 Wabash…Southwest Chief 29
18 Union Pacific…California Zephyr 18
15 Chicago and Indiana Western...Cardinal 15
9 Kansas City Terminal…Southwest Chief 9…Ann Rutledge 6...
...Kansas City, St. Louis Mule 6
9 Terminal Railroad Association of St. Louis…Texas Eagle 9…
...Ann Rutledge 9...Kansas City, St. Louis Mule 2
6 New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal…Sunset 6…City of New Orleans 3…
...Crescent 4
5 New Orleans Public Belt…Sunset 5
4 Chicago and Eastern Illinois...Cardinal 4
3 Amtrak…Lake Shore Limited 3…Maple Leaf 3…Adirondack 3…
...Ethan Allen Express 3
3 Cumberland and Pennsylvania…Capitol Limited 3
3 Kansas City Southern…Sunset 3…City of New Orleans 1
3 New York Connecting…Northern Northeast Corridor 3…Vermonter 3
2 Chicago Union Station…California Zephyr, Southwest Chief, Texas Eagle,
...Ann Rutledge, Illinois Zephyr, City of New Orleans, Wolverine, Blue Water,
...Pere Marquette, Lake Shore Limited, Capitol Limited, Cardinal
2 Minnesota Transfer…Empire Builder 2
1 Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal…Coast Starlight, Southwest Chief,
... Sunset Limited, Pacific Surfliner

State Mileage
Alabama 320 (28th)…Sunset 88…Crescent 232
Alaska 0
Arizona 775 (7th)…Southwest Chief 386…Sunset 389
Arkansas 305 (30th)…Texas Eagle 305
California 2,023 (1st)…Coast Starlight 864…California Zephyr 224…
...Southwest Chief 333…Sunset 253…Pacific Surfliners 232…San Joaquin 363
Colorado 658 (10th)…California Zephyr 477…Southwest Chief 181
Connecticut 162 (37th) …Northern Northeast Corridor 115…Vermonter 95
Delaware 22 (46th) ...Cardinal 22…Crescent 22…Silver Meteor 22…
...Silver Star 22...Carolinian 22...Vermonter 22
Florida 908 (5th)…Florida 564…Silver Meteor 451…Silver Star 280...Auto Train 165
Georgia 307 (29th) …Crescent 157…Silver Meteor 126…Silver Star 143...
...Auto Train 126
Hawaii 0
Idaho 102 (41st)…Empire Builder 102
Illinois 1,067 (3rd)…Empire Builder 48…California Zephyr 204…
...Southwest Chief 217…Texas Eagle 278…Illinois Zephyr 258…
...Ann Rutledge 278...City of New Orleans 362…Wolverine 14…Blue Water 14…
...Pere Marquette 14...Lake Shore Limited 14…Capitol Limited 14...Cardinal 26
Indiana 448 (20th)…Wolverine 45…Blue Water 45…Pere Marquette 46…
...Lake Shore Limited 155…Capitol Limited 155...Cardinal 254
Iowa 294 (32nd)…California Zephyr 274…Southwest Chief 20
Kansas 485 (18th)…Southwest Chief 485
Kentucky 193 (35th)…City of New Orleans 43...Cardinal 150
Louisiana 407 (22nd)…Sunset 287…City of New Orleans 88…Crescent 48
Maine 44 (45th) ...Downeaster 44
Maryland 151 (38th) …Capitol Limited 61...Cardinal 90…Crescent 90…
...Silver Meteor 90…Silver Star 90...Carolinian 90...Vermonter 90
Massachusetts 282 (33rd) …Northern Northeast Corridor 36…
...Boston Lake Shore Limited 161…Vermonter 65...Downeaster 36
Michigan 520 (17th)…Wolverine 244…Blue Water 260…Pere Marquette 117
Minnesota 380 (26th)…Empire Builder 380
Mississippi 553 (15th)…Sunset 75…City of New Orleans305…Crescent 173
Missouri 668 (8th)…Southwest Chief 202…Texas Eagle 193…
...Ann Rutledge 286...Kansas City, St. Louis Mules 282
Montana 668 (8th)…Empire Builder 668
Nebraska 387 (24th)…387
Nevada 465 (19th)…California Zephyr 465
New Hampshire 60 (42nd) …Vermonter 25...Downeaster 35
New Jersey 57 (43rd) ...Cardinal 57…Pennsylvanian 57…Crescent 57…
...Silver Meteor 57…Silver Star 57...Carolinian 57...Vermonter 57
New Mexico 600 (13th)…Southwest Chief 430…Sunset 170
New York 777 (6th) …Lake Shore Limited 504...Cardinal 2…Pennsylvanian 2
…Crescent 2…Silver Meteor 2…Silver Star 2…Carolinian 2...Maple Leaf 461..
…Adirondack 332...Ethan Allen Express 224…Northern Northeast Corridor 29…
...Boston Lake Shore Limited 38…Vermonter 31
North Carolina 569 (14th) …Crescent 182…Silver Meteor 181…Silver Star 224…
...Carolinian 288...Auto Train 181
North Dakota 424 (21st)…Empire Builder 424
Ohio 381 (25th)…Lake Shore Limited 243…Capitol Limited 262...Cardinal 48
Oklahoma 134 (39th)…Heartland Flyer 134
Oregon 348 (27th)…Coast Starlight 348…Portland Empire Builder 9
Pennsylvania 641 (12th) …Lake Shore Limited 43…Capitol Limited 196...
...Cardinal 49…Pennsylvanian 385…Crescent 49…Silver Meteor 49…
...Silver Star 49...Carolinian 49...Vermonter 49
Rhode Island 51 (44th) …Northern Northeast Corridor 51
South Carolina 545 (16th) …Crescent 123…Silver Meteor 220…
...Silver Star 202...Auto Train 220
South Dakota 0
Tennessee 134 (39th)…City of New Orleans 134
Texas 1,538 (2nd)…Sunset 933…Texas Eagle 531…Heartland Flyer 75
Utah 389 (23rd)…California Zephyr 389
Vermont 183 (36th) …Ethan Allen Express 17…Vermonter 166
Virginia 648 (11th) ...Cardinal 237…Crescent 237…Silver Meteor 186…
...Silver Star 186…Carolinian 186...Auto Train 168...Newport News line 76
Washington 981 (4th)…Coast Starlight 177…Empire Builder 349…
...Portland Empire Builder 369…Cascades 120
West Virginia 297 (31st) …Capitol Limited 86...Cardinal 211
Wisconsin 235 (34th)…Empire Builder 235
Wyoming 0
District of Columbia 13…Capitol Limited 6...Cardinal 8…Crescent 8…
...Silver Meteor 8…Silver Star 8...Carolinian 8...Vermonter 6

Canada 168…Cascades 36…Maple Leaf 83…Adirondack 49

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[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by RPRiebe

Gents:
This is my first day, technically due to the clock, second, here and I am hoping that you may have some information as to railroad books.

Are there any books, that deal with, other than the U.S., British or France, singular, Diesel locomotives from the fifties world-wide; especially the carbody passenger units.
There seems to be a fair amount of info on English speaking countries early Diesels, but sporatic, info on the export units, or early units built in non-english speaking countries.
Even the internet seems to be lacking on info on most countries first diesel beyond the very early box units.

Sorry if this is a too general enquiry, but whilst one can find a great deal of books on steamers, the diesels that followed do not seem to be to heavily written about, at least not in books still available.
Thank you for your time,
Bob

I have a fair amount of railroad and locomotive books . I'd be happy to go and look for some info. Is there any specific type,or country you had in mind? You're right-if you get just a little bit off the norm, information gets sparse. A lot of times, a railroad book will have a picture,page or even a chapter about something out of the ordinary. Where are you in Minnesota?

[Murphy Siding]

Simon Reed: I e-mailed you my address. Thank you! Yes, I would be interested.

Glad to here that there are lots of railfans in the UK.

Thanks

[Simon Reed]

MurphySiding - In view of your obvious interest in all things British e-mail me your address and I'll mail a couple of UK railfan magazines to you...these will give you some questions to ask and will also give you some idea how bouyant the UK enthusiast market is.

[Tulyar15]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tulyar15

QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

The railways in Wales, Scotland and England are all run as one pretty much. Northern Ireland is a little different as (I think) they may have a different gauge - certainly the railways in the Republic of Ireland (south of the border) are broad gauge. There's no bridge or tunnel across the Irish Sea so any interchange involves either sea or air travel.

The Northern Ireland Railways is still a state owned, vertically integrated company, as is Iarnrod Eireann, its counterpart in the Irish Republic. The Irish standard gauge is 5' 3" which was chosen as a compromise between the 4' 8.5" of the Dublin and Kingstown (now Dun Laoghaire) Railway and the 6' 2" of the Ulster Railway. (An official from the Irish Office of the then UK Govt rounded these figures to 4' 6" and 6' and took the average, which is 5' 3". The only other countries where this gauge is found are certain Australia states (Victoria I think) and Brazil, where Irish builders were employed.

The political border between Northern Ireland and the Republic is the border between the two rail companies but the Belfast - Dublin service is operated jointly with NIR crews working thru to Dublin and IE crews to Belfast. Nowadays the two companies not only use the same stock and locos but the stock used is painted in the same livery. The NIR have a large fleet of DMU's used on Belfast commuter services, these also run across the border to Dundalk. Sometimes when a major sporting event takes place in Dublin, particularly a 6 Nations Rugby match, these DMU's will be pressed into service for extra trains and IE sometimes borrow them to put on extra local services.

Another case of American ignorance on my part[*^_^*]: I didn't think the two Irelands got along with each other. It appears the area has settled down somewhat.
Thanks

They do nowadays. At one time trains on the Belfast - Dublin line used to change engines at Dundalk, the nearest station to the border, but IE and NIR reached an agreement for thru running in the 1960's which has worked out well ever since. All cross border freight trains are worked by IE loco's; the only commercial freight traffic in NI is that which runs thru from the south. This comprises mostly container trains to Belfast, plus seasonal shipments of fertiliser to (London)Derry.

The history of Irish Railways is very convoluted and is a study in itself. In the days of steam they used British built locos and when they went over to diesels in the 1950's the bought British ones at first. But these were so unreliable they went over to EMD in the 1960's and they've bought nothing else since then. (Though IE are now saying they may be the replacement "HST2" train if Briti***OC's order them in large enough numbers to enable IE to buy an extra few fairly cheaply). Irish railways have always been popular with British railfans because until recently they had a lot of old rolling stock but in the last 10 years they've bought lots of new stock.

[mhurley87f]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

How did the Government go about nationalizing the railroads? Did they buy out the private owners,or maybe the railroads were in bankruptcy anyway?

Thanks

The Big 4 had been through a very tough time in the depression years, and their ability to pay dividends to their Ordinary shareholders was key to the nationalisation process, where Government Bonds were issued in lieu of Railway Company shares. The value of the bonds issued reflected the yield of the shares originally held, so Great Western shareholders, who had been paid dividends most regularly, were compensated better than those who had held London, Midland & Scottish, Southern, and London & North Eastern Shares.

I suspect that many Institutional Shareholders would have been relieved that unloading their holdings to invest elsewhere would become much easier.

The LNER was reput to be the weakest of the 4, and some commentators are on record of believeing that, had it not been nationalised on 1 Jan 1948, it would have been bankrupted by the direct and indirect costs it would have faced following a devastating storm later in 1948, when almost every underline bridge carrying the Edinburgh to Berwick on Tweed (and on to Newcastle and London) main line was washed away or irreperably damaged by swollen streams and rivers.

[Anonymous]

Gents:
This is my first day, technically due to the clock, second, here and I am hoping that you may have some information as to railroad books.

Are there any books, that deal with, other than the U.S., British or France, singular, Diesel locomotives from the fifties world-wide; especially the carbody passenger units.
There seems to be a fair amount of info on English speaking countries early Diesels, but sporatic, info on the export units, or early units built in non-english speaking countries.
Even the internet seems to be lacking on info on most countries first diesel beyond the very early box units.

Sorry if this is a too general enquiry, but whilst one can find a great deal of books on steamers, the diesels that followed do not seem to be to heavily written about, at least not in books still available.
Thank you for your time,
Bob

[Murphy Siding]

How did the Government go about nationalizing the railroads? Did they buy out the private owners,or maybe the railroads were in bankruptcy anyway?

Thanks

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Townsend
. GWR fans generally have a chip on each shoulder and say things like "there are two ways to do something, the GWR way and the wrong way"

That's the part I remember from Thomas the Tank Engine[;)]

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tulyar15

QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

The railways in Wales, Scotland and England are all run as one pretty much. Northern Ireland is a little different as (I think) they may have a different gauge - certainly the railways in the Republic of Ireland (south of the border) are broad gauge. There's no bridge or tunnel across the Irish Sea so any interchange involves either sea or air travel.

The Northern Ireland Railways is still a state owned, vertically integrated company, as is Iarnrod Eireann, its counterpart in the Irish Republic. The Irish standard gauge is 5' 3" which was chosen as a compromise between the 4' 8.5" of the Dublin and Kingstown (now Dun Laoghaire) Railway and the 6' 2" of the Ulster Railway. (An official from the Irish Office of the then UK Govt rounded these figures to 4' 6" and 6' and took the average, which is 5' 3". The only other countries where this gauge is found are certain Australia states (Victoria I think) and Brazil, where Irish builders were employed.

The political border between Northern Ireland and the Republic is the border between the two rail companies but the Belfast - Dublin service is operated jointly with NIR crews working thru to Dublin and IE crews to Belfast. Nowadays the two companies not only use the same stock and locos but the stock used is painted in the same livery. The NIR have a large fleet of DMU's used on Belfast commuter services, these also run across the border to Dundalk. Sometimes when a major sporting event takes place in Dublin, particularly a 6 Nations Rugby match, these DMU's will be pressed into service for extra trains and IE sometimes borrow them to put on extra local services.

Another case of American ignorance on my part[*^_^*]: I didn't think the two Irelands got along with each other. It appears the area has settled down somewhat.
Thanks

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Thanks Murphy.
First of all, I'm wondering about the Groupings that took place (1948 ?). From what I understand there were over 100 different companies operating until the 1920s when a bunch of mergers brought the number down to about 30 or 40. I believe after WW2 the Government forced the strong railways to take over the weak resulting in 4 railways. I think they were the Southern, the Great Western, the London, Midland and Scottish and the 4th up through Newcastle. Could someone please tell me the rough geographic areas each covered ?
I am also wondering about how these railways aquired their steam locomotives. In the United States most of the railways designed their own locomotives (along with the builders) and told one of the three builders (Lima, Baldwin or ALCo) what to build. Did the railways in the U.K. build their own steam or were there builders, and who designed the locomotives ? When did the 4 railways stop acquiring steam, and did they stay with Belpaire fireboxes till the end ?
Thanks.

Murphy Siding,
My laziness results from spending 1 or 2 hours a day with this mess-
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44086
Hopefully I'll be done this week.

OK- I forgive you for your* laziness*. I checked my e-mail today. Thanks for the book! That was pretty cool. If you're planning to publi***hat Milwaukee book,I'll take a signed, first edition![;)]