War of the Worlds

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by thaddeusthudpucker

come on!!!

all i really wanted to know was if a locomotive could runaway like that!!

now we are talking about picking up one another in specially armored suburbans while we stock up on whisky and how tom cruise's teeth stay white while some schlub is popping popcorn with death rays?!?!?!?!?

yes i do know that this make believe, but at the same time i am learning a little somthing about locomotive systems!!!

wow, i never realized that this would go this far when i posted it!!

Hehehe.... OK seriously..... HAHAHAHAAA!

I think if the top end of a P42 was sheared of by a Martian heat ray, it would stop, because all the electrical system would be disconnected or short circuited, and any that was still would be fried by the fire, same for the diesel and then generator assembly. Too much of it is computerized today. The whole system would shut down and the train would likely come to a stop, also wouldnt the Dead Man controls automaticly kick in after about 90 seconds? Or more likeley the melting control system would trigger the system into Stop mode.

If the scene in the story was set back in the 1953 version, an E-unit and some streamliner car aflame, it would be far more beleivable because almost all the control systems, fuel pumps, etc. were mechanically driven and more likely to continue running even if the rest of the engine was in flames.

Would anyone else concur that a modern engine would shortly come to a complete stop if it was suddenly set aflame[?]

[chad thomas]

QUOTE: Originally posted by thaddeusthudpucker

come on!!!

yes i do know that this make believe, but at the same time i am learning a little somthing about locomotive systems!!

What are you learning? How an F40PH is affected by death rays? Or how far from reality Hollywood can distort railroads?

I mean dude, seriously.[;)]

[chad thomas]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Thrown of course

Unless I can borrow one of those new missle launchers from Amtrak.

missle launchers from amtrak? so..thats where the billion dollor 06 FY opporating buget for amtrak is for..not trains but train defence from ETs..lol
I chose to reject your reality..and substitue my own...lol
csx engineer

Reality ???? My reality is that the actual population of the universe is one. And you are all figements of a deranged imagination. That's the story I'm stickin' with.

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Entertainment........not documentary.......fiction......

Is this correct? [:0] Can I unbolt the steel door and come out of my basement? [8)] What a relief !!! Now I have to go see if I can get my money back on all this ammo I just bought.....[:(!]..

Nope...still too dangerous...in fact you need to crack the door open, slide all beer and snack food out, then quickly lock the door. The aliens are attracted to beer. I'll be by to pick them up in specially sheilded Suburban....

Sorry Dan, No beer. This one is way too big for beer. Had to stock up on Whiskey instead. If I would have opted to stock up on enough beer to get me through this I would have to sleep verticaly in the corner. Besides whiskey bottles make better malatof cocktailes to get even with them for burning up our trains. But you can still swing by, just don't forget to bring a gas can and a chunk of garden hose.

All the better, the aliens used the ethanol to fuel their spaceships (they must be from a corn belt).

If I may quote Roger Miller:
"Chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug
Make you want to holler hi-de-ho
Burns your tummy, don'tcha know
Chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug"

[csxengineer98]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Thrown of course

Unless I can borrow one of those new missle launchers from Amtrak.

missle launchers from amtrak? so..thats where the billion dollor 06 FY opporating buget for amtrak is for..not trains but train defence from ETs..lol
I chose to reject your reality..and substitue my own...lol
csx engineer

[Anonymous]

come on!!!

all i really wanted to know was if a locomotive could runaway like that!!

now we are talking about picking up one another in specially armored suburbans while we stock up on whisky and how tom cruise's teeth stay white while some schlub is popping popcorn with death rays?!?!?!?!?

yes i do know that this make believe, but at the same time i am learning a little somthing about locomotive systems!!!

wow, i never realized that this would go this far when i posted it!!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by npr765

Does the word special effects ring a bell?

From the trolley perspective, actually more of a clatter-gong [:)].

[chad thomas]

It will be shaken somthin that's for sure [xx(]

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Thrown of course

Unless I can borrow one of those new missle launchers from Amtrak.

i guess that means..Shaken![;)]

[chad thomas]

Thrown of course

Unless I can borrow one of those new missle launchers from Amtrak.

[dharmon]

molotov cocktails!!!!!!

shaken or stirred?

[vsmith]

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[chad thomas]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Entertainment........not documentary.......fiction......

Is this correct? [:0] Can I unbolt the steel door and come out of my basement? [8)] What a relief !!! Now I have to go see if I can get my money back on all this ammo I just bought.....[:(!]..

Nope...still too dangerous...in fact you need to crack the door open, slide all beer and snack food out, then quickly lock the door. The aliens are attracted to beer. I'll be by to pick them up in specially sheilded Suburban....

Sorry Dan, No beer. This one is way too big for beer. Had to stock up on Whiskey instead. If I would have opted to stock up on enough beer to get me through this I would have to sleep verticaly in the corner. Besides whiskey bottles make better malatof cocktailes to get even with them for burning up our trains. But you can still swing by, just don't forget to bring a gas can and a chunk of garden hose.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Entertainment........not documentary.......fiction......

Is this correct? [:0] Can I unbolt the steel door and come out of my basement? [8)] What a relief !!! Now I have to go see if I can get my money back on all this ammo I just bought.....[:(!]..

Nope...still too dangerous...in fact you need to crack the door open, slide all beer and snack food out, then quickly lock the door. The aliens are attracted to beer. I'll be by to pick them up in specially sheilded Suburban....

[chad thomas]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Entertainment........not documentary.......fiction......

Is this correct? [:0] Can I unbolt the steel door and come out of my basement? [8)] What a relief !!! Now I have to go see if I can get my money back on all this ammo I just bought.....[:(!]..

[Anonymous]

Does the word special effects ring a bell?

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

vsmith !!!!! What are you trying to say here???? Do you think they faked some of this stuff??? Heaven forbid!

Nooo, I'd never say that! i always say the truth...

Toms teeth are real, Katie really loves Tom and isnt just furthering her career..

Scientology is the best religion on Earth

Tom Arnold has real talent

OJ was innocent

Reaganonics works

Deficits dont matter

Saddam did it



What, Me Lie?[}:)]

[Murphy Siding]

vsmith !!!!! What are you trying to say here???? Do you think they faked some of this stuff??? Heaven forbid!

[vsmith]

Sorry Dan thats just plain Greed!

How else do you think they pay Tom Cruise $30 million a picture while those min wage students schlub it working behind the counter?

As for the Heat Ray, I think it might overcook the popcorn, and if you've ever burned popcorn in the microwave, it aint to pleasant an experience.[;)]

PS Toms teeth are perfect because some other schlub in a booth computer enhances the stains out of his teeth in each picture.[:o)]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mehrlich

Dan,

Because IT'S A MOVIE!

Okay, then how come it cost $30 for me and my daughter to go to the theater, each have a drink and share a medium popcorn?

And can the martian death ray be used to pop popcorn?

[Anonymous]

Dan,

Because IT'S A MOVIE!

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

The really pressing questions are:

1. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of service, how come the crossing gates are working?

2. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of serice, how come a diesel ELECTRIC engine is working?

To answer CSXtrainredneck's question, it would take a while for enough ot the control circuits to burn through. As several people have mentioned, the thing that would stop the train is not that the control systems are burned through, but that they are working, namely the alertor.

Dave H.

Q: 1. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of service, how come the crossing gates are working?

A: Because ITS A MOVIE! [8D](theres a guy in a trailer off screen controlling the gates waiting for Stevies signal to pu***he button)

Q: 2. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of serice, how come a diesel ELECTRIC engine is working?

A: Because ITS A MOVIE! [;)](The train only exists inside a computer, so it can be made to do anything, run with no electronics, have steel burn, or even fly and change into a robot if so desired)

How come Tom Cruise's teeth stayed perfectly white, even though he did not bru***hem for over a week?

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

The really pressing questions are:

1. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of service, how come the crossing gates are working?

2. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of serice, how come a diesel ELECTRIC engine is working?

To answer CSXtrainredneck's question, it would take a while for enough ot the control circuits to burn through. As several people have mentioned, the thing that would stop the train is not that the control systems are burned through, but that they are working, namely the alertor.

Dave H.

Q: 1. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of service, how come the crossing gates are working?

A: Because ITS A MOVIE! [8D](theres a guy in a trailer off screen controlling the gates waiting for Stevies signal to pu***he button)

Q: 2. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of serice, how come a diesel ELECTRIC engine is working?

A: Because ITS A MOVIE! [;)](The train only exists inside a computer, so it can be made to do anything, run with no electronics, have steel burn, or even fly and change into a robot if so desired)

[alcodave]

The E.M.P. only affected objects in the immediate area of the lightning storm.I beleive the train was still moving due to its own momentum and that it was set on fire just outside of the town.I really enjoy this thread alot of people are asking good questions and making creative comments lets keep this one going!

[dehusman]

The really pressing questions are:

1. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of service, how come the crossing gates are working?

2. Since the EMP rendered all things electrical out of serice, how come a diesel ELECTRIC engine is working?

To answer CSXtrainredneck's question, it would take a while for enough ot the control circuits to burn through. As several people have mentioned, the thing that would stop the train is not that the control systems are burned through, but that they are working, namely the alertor.

Dave H.

[Murphy Siding]

You would think that the "fried" electrical system would cause the train to go into emercency braking. But, this a make believe movie, and we are talking about martians arn't we?

[Anonymous]

can some one answer my question please because i would like to know

[Anonymous]

would it be possible for a train to runaway like in the movie if everything was fried[?] like all the electrical[?] beside in the movie it fried everything that the beam touched so would/could it also have fried the brakes and/or anyother possiblilty of stoping the train so the train was like a boyscout derby car with no way of stoping it except to derail, come to the end of the line, hit another train,etc.[?]

[Anonymous]

I saw WOTW again today, and i have to agree with whoever said it was a F59PHI and a Talgo trainset....but i am not exactly sure it was a Talgo trainset. the train appeared to be consisted of superliners to me.

As far as me stating it was a P42 the first time, I was totally shocked there was a train out of control in the first place, and all i saw was a modern, streamlined locomotive.

which opens another can of worms. being that the loco was a F59PHI in leiu of a P42, does that in itself make it possible that the train would run without a crew for a while, on fire as it was?

(this is the part where an engineer with EMD experience comes in!!!)

Now, i do know that this movie is make believe, but i also believe that if aliens do come from another world, they are going to be angry for what we have done on this earth all by ourselves. WWI, WWIII, Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Gulf I, Gulf II, the civil war, and all of t6he other wars i have not mentioned come to mind. if humans are capable of doing those knids of thing to ourselves, what do you think we are going to do to other life in the universe?

[dharmon]

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