Erik_Mag SALfan Don't forget the colander to wear on your head to keep the CIA from controlling your brain (like the woman in the park near Union Station in DC, when we were there). Colander? Are you she wasn't a pastafarian waiting for her diety to touch her with his noodly appendages?
SALfan Don't forget the colander to wear on your head to keep the CIA from controlling your brain (like the woman in the park near Union Station in DC, when we were there).
Don't forget the colander to wear on your head to keep the CIA from controlling your brain (like the woman in the park near Union Station in DC, when we were there).
Colander? Are you she wasn't a pastafarian waiting for her diety to touch her with his noodly appendages?
Cthulhu?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu#/media/File:Cthulhu_and_R'lyeh.jpg
Convicted One Yeah, I guess that even Patrick Henry was only one cruel twist of fate away from being dismissed as a "lone nutter"?
Yeah, I guess that even Patrick Henry was only one cruel twist of fate away from being dismissed as a "lone nutter"?
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Murphy Siding Euclid I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point. So the strange looking ship made him suspicious, and he wanted the fame of warning the world about the suspicious ship. Throwing his locomotive at the ship was his plan for the fame. But he let his exaggerated self-esteem and thirst for fame get away with him before he knew the facts about the ship. Did you want me to refute the first sentence where you say he was in his right mind, or the whole rest of the post where you refute it?
Euclid I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point. So the strange looking ship made him suspicious, and he wanted the fame of warning the world about the suspicious ship. Throwing his locomotive at the ship was his plan for the fame. But he let his exaggerated self-esteem and thirst for fame get away with him before he knew the facts about the ship.
I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point.
So the strange looking ship made him suspicious, and he wanted the fame of warning the world about the suspicious ship. Throwing his locomotive at the ship was his plan for the fame. But he let his exaggerated self-esteem and thirst for fame get away with him before he knew the facts about the ship.
Did you want me to refute the first sentence where you say he was in his right mind, or the whole rest of the post where you refute it?
Good grief. I said he was in his right mind, meaning his normal self. I did not say he was a model citizen.
https://heavy.com/news/2020/04/eduardo-moreno-california-train-usns-mercy/
Euclid Murphy Siding Euclid I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point. So the strange looking ship made him suspicious, and he wanted the fame of warning the world about the suspicious ship. Throwing his locomotive at the ship was his plan for the fame. But he let his exaggerated self-esteem and thirst for fame get away with him before he knew the facts about the ship. Did you want me to refute the first sentence where you say he was in his right mind, or the whole rest of the post where you refute it? Good grief. I said he was in his right mind, meaning his normal self. I did not say he was a model citizen. https://heavy.com/news/2020/04/eduardo-moreno-california-train-usns-mercy/
Murphy Sidingf Patrick Henry had tried to drive a locomotive 750' past the ends of the railroad tracks in order to hit a ship in the harbor, then yes.
Wouldn't have required near such drastic action on his part. Had the USA failed in their attempt at independance, I have little doubt that many Tories would have "groupthinked" him to be a "nutter".
Convicted OneWouldn't have required near such drastic action on his part. Had the USA failed in their attempt at independance, I have little doubt that many Tories would have "groupthinked" him to be a "nutter".
History was always written by the victors.
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EuclidI think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point.
Do you have a source for any of this?
And I really would like a defintion of what you consider to be "of the right mind"?
zugmannHistory was always written by the victors.
That was really the point I was trying to make abstractly with my "cruel twist of fate" comment earlier, but evidently it sailed over a few heads.
I have faith in your next attempt.
A USNS Hospital ship is strange? Perhaps the only thing strange about it is that it usually isn't berthed in the Port of LA/LB, otherwise you'd have to have been living under a rock not to know the USNS has Hospital ships, and that they had been ordered to the two areas by the Government to help combat COVID-19. Even I knew that and I almost never pay attention to the news, headlines of articles are almost I ever need(for amusement purposes mostly).
Convicted One Murphy Siding f Patrick Henry had tried to drive a locomotive 750' past the ends of the railroad tracks in order to hit a ship in the harbor, then yes. Wouldn't have required near such drastic action on his part. Had the USA failed in their attempt at independance, I have little doubt that many Tories would have "groupthinked" him to be a "nutter".
Murphy Siding f Patrick Henry had tried to drive a locomotive 750' past the ends of the railroad tracks in order to hit a ship in the harbor, then yes.
Poor guy. Maybe he truly believed he was going to be a modern day Dr. Prescott, but ended up a Paul Revere.
zugmann have faith in your next attempt.
There are a lot of tormented minds out there, envisioning infinite perils.
The guy who drove this locomotive off the end of the rails has already gotten his name in the paper, his 5 minutes of fame. Suppressing parts of the story is not going to prevent that. Is the republic really so frail that it would suffer irrepairable harm to ask this guy "what threat do you believe you are bringing attention to?" and publishing that along with the rest of the story?
Of course there is always the potential scenario where some perpetrators seek to advance valid, albeit controversial ideas, Where the authority prefers to not risk popularizing subversive ideas . But I really don't believe that is a facet to this story.....However once again, not knowing for sure, being forced to speculate presents it's own set of challenges.
I'm sure there will eventually be a book. Or podcast.
Flintlock76 Colander? Are you she wasn't a pastafarian waiting for her diety to touch her with his noodly appendages? Cthulhu? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu#/media/File:Cthulhu_and_R'lyeh.jpg
Flying Spaghetti Monster (hence "pastafarian"), not the "Why settle for the lesser of two evils when you can have the greatest of all Evils".
zugmann Euclid I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point. Do you have a source for any of this? And I really would like a defintion of what you consider to be "of the right mind"?
Euclid I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point.
I conclude this from reading this link giving more details of what he did.
There has been some speculation here that he was a normal person who just flipped out and did something outrgeous and totally out of character. What he did was outrageous alright, but in reading what he said about it, I conclude that it fits right into his personality. So what I mean by being in his right mind is being perfectly consistent with what I believe his personality is; as opposed to an abberation from his personality that cannot be explained. I do not mean his bevaior was stable, ordinary, rational, etc. in normal terms for average people.
With my suggestion of him being motivated by social media fame, I think what he did was in a way very similar to people who fall off cliffs while taking a selfie. In regard to what I said about being full of unearned self esteem, I mean always being told you are perfect. It is just an impression I get from reading what he said. He radiates self-confidence. So he had no doubt about acting on just a hunch that the ship was a danger, while showing the world he was a hero for exposing the danger by drawing their attention to it. But he was too self-confident to make sure the ship really was a danger. And the lure of fame was too strong to spend more time investigating. The actual act was indeed a very spontaneous decision, and he decribes that quite vividly.
Convicted One..."what threat do you believe you are bringing attention to?"...
You know those white boxcars with shackles we joke about here? Some people believe they are real...
As I've said before, look up "REX84" and prepare to be amazed at the conspiracy theories that surround it.
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Murphy Siding Patrick Henry had not been properly vetted, trained, and supervised.
You never know Murph, perhaps Eduardo Moreno was trying to shed light on the great plywood conspiracy, exposing why you see your orders pass you by three times before eventual delivery.
Convicted One Murphy Siding Patrick Henry had not been properly vetted, trained, and supervised. You never know Murph, perhaps Eduardo Moreno was trying to shed light on the great plywood conspiracy, exposing why you see your orders pass you by three times before eventual delivery.
tree68 Convicted One ..."what threat do you believe you are bringing attention to?"... You know those white boxcars with shackles we joke about here? Some people believe they are real... As I've said before, look up "REX84" and prepare to be amazed at the conspiracy theories that surround it.
Convicted One ..."what threat do you believe you are bringing attention to?"...
I feel more unease about our situation today in 2020 than I did about the situation in 1984.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Murphy Sidingould they arrive any sooner if BNSF had a ship to target?
I guess the easiest solution would be to get Moreno on the ballot for an upcoming primary election. That way every conscious thought he has had since the age of 3 becomes discoverable and news worthy?
tree68You know those white boxcars with shackles we joke about here? Some people believe they are real...
The amount of people that believe 5G towers spread Corona? Let's just say we need to invest in education more.
tree68s I've said before, look up "REX84" and prepare to be amazed at the conspiracy theories that surround it.
Thanks for re-emphasizing that. I took your suggestion and found it quite interesting.
So says the person who would hire folks who believe in ghosts.
tree68 If you asked a candidate if they believe in ghosts and they answered in the affirmative would you recommend they be hired? Sure. There's people who engage in rituals on a weekly basis paying homage to plaster statues, and people who believe the Cowboys can win a Superbowl, why not ghosts?
Sure. There's people who engage in rituals on a weekly basis paying homage to plaster statues, and people who believe the Cowboys can win a Superbowl, why not ghosts?
tree68ook up "REX84" and prepare to be amazed at the conspiracy theories that surround it.
Just reviewing the brief entry they have at wikipedia on the subject, it becomes abundantly clear from the excerpt of the inquiry of Oliver North, and the effort to blindside that line of inquiry, that the government indeed has something they would prefer that the general public not be aware of. Something, as it turns out, that the public would find to be an encroachment upon their rights.
There is an old saying that goes "You have nothing to worry about so long as you are not doing anything wrong" Perhaps that proviso is a two way street, and the government at times seeks to surpress things that it ......what's the best way to put this?....would be reluctant to own up to? Obviously they had means, method, and motive in the example cited.
zugmann Convicted One Wouldn't have required near such drastic action on his part. Had the USA failed in their attempt at independance, I have little doubt that many Tories would have "groupthinked" him to be a "nutter".
Convicted One Wouldn't have required near such drastic action on his part. Had the USA failed in their attempt at independance, I have little doubt that many Tories would have "groupthinked" him to be a "nutter".
Judge Matsch certainly felt that way.
Convicted One tree68 ook up "REX84" and prepare to be amazed at the conspiracy theories that surround it. Just reviewing the brief entry they have at wikipedia on the subject, it becomes abundantly clear from the excerpt of the inquiry of Oliver North, and the effort to blindside that line of inquiry, that the government indeed has something they would prefer that the general public not be aware of. Something, as it turns out, that the public would find to be an encroachment upon their rights. There is an old saying that goes "You have nothing to worry about so long as you are not doing anything wrong" Perhaps that proviso is a two way street, and the government at times seeks to surpress things that it ......what's the best way to put this?....would be reluctant to own up to? Obviously they had means, method, and motive in the example cited.
tree68 ook up "REX84" and prepare to be amazed at the conspiracy theories that surround it.
Murphy SidingAdmit it. You have an Area 51 T-shirt and commemorative hat, don't you?
Well, I don't.
Railroad angle: One of the reported locations for the internment camps is/was the Beech Grove shops. One theorist even noted that the barbed wire at the top of the chain link fence around the facility was supposedly canted to keep people in, not out...
And the military installation where I worked was reported to have not one, but two internment camps. I covered most of the installation at one time or another while I was working there and never saw any such thing. Unless they were talking about motor pools and such, which do have fences around them...
But I do find the fertile imaginations fascinating...
And, like most legends, there may be a sliver of truth involved.
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