Convicted OneBut then I believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Whether it's coming here to visit remains to be proven. Which I guess is part of the reason I am skeptical whenever I see individuals dismissed as "lone nutters". They may very well be just that, but I would prefer to draw that conclusion myself, as opposed to having it made for me.
When one uses a tool the is not capable of accomplishing the stated goal of the terrorist - he becomes a nutter.
The Universe is much too large with way too many galaxy's that contain way too many solar systems with way too many planets for us to be the only 'intelligent' beings to inhabit the Universe. With that being the case, we have only developed radio waves that are able to leave the Earth's atmosphere in the past 100 years or so - and we know the nearest star to us is 4.5 Lightyears distant. In view of the foregoing - where are we on the intelligent 'timeline' vs. other intelligent beings timeline - are we ahead of them - where they are hunter gathers living in caves on their planets - or were we in the hunter gatherer phase when the found our planet and concluded there was not intelligent life here? Questions, Questions Questions. Timing is everything.
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Backshop Convicted One Would it really harm the republic to hear what this person's reasoning was? "Reasoning" is a stretch, itself...
Convicted One Would it really harm the republic to hear what this person's reasoning was?
Would it really harm the republic to hear what this person's reasoning was?
"Reasoning" is a stretch, itself...
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Murphy SidingConvictedOne suggests it's possible the guy just snapped.
That is entirely possible.
Murphy SidingHow can anyone foresee that in the present
By observation. There are a couple on the NEC (still) who bear watching and it would not surprise me should they be involved in workplace violence. I am not alone in that observation.
Look on the bright side.
At least the voices in his head didn't tell him to stand on a highway overpass with a .30-06.
243129 Murphy Siding ConvictedOne suggests it's possible the guy just snapped. That is entirely possible. Murphy Siding How can anyone foresee that in the present By observation. There are a couple on the NEC (still) who bear watching and it would not surprise me should they be involved in workplace violence. I am not alone in that observation.
Murphy Siding ConvictedOne suggests it's possible the guy just snapped.
Murphy Siding How can anyone foresee that in the present
I would venture that in our employment careers we have all come across individuals we did not feel 'totally comfortable' around for any of a variety of reasons. One cannot predict how life's slings and arrows will affect any individual over time.
Locally we just had a former Army Ranger kill his ex-wife (of seveal years) and her current partner as well as a neighbor kid throwing a lacrosse ball around in his own yard across the street before killing himself. I have to presume the Army does a relatively high level of vetting to individuals accepted into and passing through Ranger training. Somewhere along the line the vetting no longer applied to the situations he was faced with in civilian life.
Even if someone is open about being interested in conspiracy theories (or supernatural phenomena, or any number of other things), it's hard to tell when the stars are going to line up just right and they'll go off the deep end. And they may never line up. For this guy, they did. Is believing in ghosts a disqualifying character trait for engineers?
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BaltACD Locally we just had a former Army Ranger kill his ex-wife (of seveal years) and her current partner. I have to presume the Army does a relatively high level of vetting to individuals accepted into and passing through Ranger training.
Locally we just had a former Army Ranger kill his ex-wife (of seveal years) and her current partner. I have to presume the Army does a relatively high level of vetting to individuals accepted into and passing through Ranger training.
BaltACDArmy does a relatively high level of vetting to individuals accepted into and passing through Ranger training.
Yes they do and he was probably an excellent candidate for Ranger 'duties'.
Murphy SidingAnd one of those you mention on the NEC could be normal as can be in the morning and chasing a navy ship with a locomotive in the afternoon. You would be able to say "I told you so" but you wouldn't be able to predict it.
There is no fool-proof system but proper vetting can lessen the possibilities of workplace violence.
tree68 Is believing in ghosts a disqualifying character trait for engineers?
If you asked a candidate if they believe in ghosts and they answered in the affirmative would you recommend they be hired?
They should ask candidates what they think of PSR.
zugmann Convicted One There could be pre-incident conditions that the RR might be relutant to own up to, and unable to disclose? I mean, HIPPA is a thing.
Convicted One There could be pre-incident conditions that the RR might be relutant to own up to, and unable to disclose?
I mean, HIPPA is a thing.
I found out from a legal professional that HIPPA only applies to medical personnel, it doesn't apply to anyone else or to facilities(if I remember correctly, it's been over a week already and it wasn't that important to me, I only remembered to most important part about it applying to medical personnel), but that people now believe that is the case so use that as an excuse to not release information to the general public.
So is HIPAA
MidlandMikeSo is HIPAA
But they're so hungry...
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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243129 Murphy Siding And one of those you mention on the NEC could be normal as can be in the morning and chasing a navy ship with a locomotive in the afternoon. You would be able to say "I told you so" but you wouldn't be able to predict it. There is no fool-proof system but proper vetting can lessen the possibilities of workplace violence.
Murphy Siding And one of those you mention on the NEC could be normal as can be in the morning and chasing a navy ship with a locomotive in the afternoon. You would be able to say "I told you so" but you wouldn't be able to predict it.
There is no fool-proof system
Ding! Ding! Ding! Lessen, not eliminate.
SALfan Don't forget the colander to wear on your head to keep the CIA from controlling your brain (like the woman in the park near Union Station in DC, when we were there).
Don't forget the colander to wear on your head to keep the CIA from controlling your brain (like the woman in the park near Union Station in DC, when we were there).
Colander? Are you she wasn't a pastafarian waiting for her diety to touch her with his noodly appendages?
zugmann MidlandMike So is HIPAA But they're so hungry...
MidlandMike So is HIPAA
... so hungry they had to name it twice.
243129 tree68 Is believing in ghosts a disqualifying character trait for engineers? If you asked a candidate if they believe in ghosts and they answered in the affirmative would you recommend they be hired?
Sure. There's people who engage in rituals on a weekly basis paying homage to plaster statues, and people who believe the Cowboys can win a Superbowl, why not ghosts?
I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point.
So the strange looking ship made him suspicious, and he wanted the fame of warning the world about the suspicious ship. Throwing his locomotive at the ship was his plan for the fame. But he let his exaggerated self-esteem and thirst for fame get away with him before he knew the facts about the ship.
Murphy SidingAnd that's exactly what he was hoping for. If you condone giving a soapbox to every "lone nut" who does something terrible to get attention, where do you stop? What about Theodore Kaczynski, Mark David Chapman, Timothy McVeigh, Travis Bickle, or The Monkees?
Well, I think that you are veering into the area of suppressing subversion, which I don't believe has a whole lot of relevance with a locomotive ramming a hospital ship, but who knows? Since the central authority has decided for us that we don't deserve to know.....we likely never will.
There is, IMO, a great potential for abuse in any decision to suppress news solely for the purpose of denying those involved their "moment of fame". I'm more comfortable being given the opportunity to evaluate for myself if 'The Monsters are Due on Maple Street' has relevance.......or not.
And no, I don't buy that vicious rumor at all that the Monkees tune "Mr Webster" was what set the Unabomber against the system.
BaltACDWhen one uses a tool the is not capable of accomplishing the stated goal of the terrorist - he becomes a nutter.
Yanno it's humorous....just a month ago this forum was rife with backslapping enthusiasts who would have reveled in the idea that a locomotive might ram a barricade. But now that one has done exactly that, where's the love?
Convicted One BaltACD When one uses a tool the is not capable of accomplishing the stated goal of the terrorist - he becomes a nutter. Yanno it's humorous....just a month ago this forum was rife with backslapping enthusiasts who would have reveled in the idea that a locomotive might ram a barricade. But now that one has done exactly that, where's the love?
BaltACD When one uses a tool the is not capable of accomplishing the stated goal of the terrorist - he becomes a nutter.
A barricade across existing tracks and 250 yards of land without tracks are very different obstacles.
Euclid I think he was in his right mind. I am guessing that this guy has a very high level of unearned self-esteem. He is also addicted to the idea of fame as the promise of social media. He indicates that his decision to attack the ship was to let the world know. He says that was on his mind and he just decided to go for it. When he was arrested he told the cops that he only had one chance so he knew he had to go for it. What is missing are the details of what he wanted to tell the world. The only thing he knew about the ship is that it looked strange. I would have to agree with him on that point. So the strange looking ship made him suspicious, and he wanted the fame of warning the world about the suspicious ship. Throwing his locomotive at the ship was his plan for the fame. But he let his exaggerated self-esteem and thirst for fame get away with him before he knew the facts about the ship.
Convicted One Murphy Siding And that's exactly what he was hoping for. If you condone giving a soapbox to every "lone nut" who does something terrible to get attention, where do you stop? What about Theodore Kaczynski, Mark David Chapman, Timothy McVeigh, Travis Bickle, or The Monkees? Well, I think that you are veering into the area of suppressing subversion, which I don't believe has a whole lot of relevance with a locomotive ramming a hospital ship, but who knows? Since the central authority has decided for us that we don't deserve to know.....we likely never will. There is, IMO, a great potential for abuse in any decision to suppress news solely for the purpose of denying those involved their "moment of fame". I'm more comfortable being given the opportunity to evaluate for myself if 'The Monsters are Due on Maple Street' has relevance.......or not. And no, I don't buy that vicious rumor at all that the Monkees tune "Mr Webster" was what set the Unabomber against the system.
Murphy Siding And that's exactly what he was hoping for. If you condone giving a soapbox to every "lone nut" who does something terrible to get attention, where do you stop? What about Theodore Kaczynski, Mark David Chapman, Timothy McVeigh, Travis Bickle, or The Monkees?
Yeah, I guess that even Patrick Henry was only one cruel twist of fate away from being dismissed as a "lone nutter"?
The Monkees? Say what? Whiskey tango foxtrot!
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