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Posted by NDG on Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:17 PM
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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, April 17, 2022 11:28 AM

I actually had to go look (no pun intended) to see how a fishbowl was built that late.  That 1982 date was within 3 years of GM in the United States giving up on building the New Look's replacement.

Turns out the Canadian GMDD kept producing the older design... many of which, apparently, were sold to the United States even though produced in Canada; very soon after making the Calgary bus, they implemented an 'improved nose' design called the Classic (which didn't sell all that much better than RTS).

The thing that killed them all was their high-floor design.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Sunday, April 17, 2022 7:21 PM

They rode much nicer than current buses.  And the seats weren't anywhere near as hard.

We also had an electric version in Edmonton.  I think the Illinois Railway Museum has one of these now.

Edmonton BBC trolleybus 192.jpg

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 8:19 AM

Edmonton trolleybuses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMBG4ELc6k

An American equivalent was Dayton, which I think still operates them with dual-mode "NexGen" coaches.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 9:25 AM

Seattle has a thriving trolleybus-trackless-trolley system.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 10:15 AM

King County Metro trolleybuses share the downtown transit tunnel with Sound Transit LRV's.

 

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Posted by Lithonia Operator on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 11:39 AM

During the STB hearings on the Amtrak Gulf Coast issue, various railroad officials have referred to a train performance analysis method know as "stringlining." Does anyone know what that is?

The only stinglining I know of is when trains derail on curves.

Still in training.


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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 1:04 PM

Lithonia Operator
During the STB hearings on the Amtrak Gulf Coast issue, various railroad officials have referred to a train performance analysis method know as "stringlining." Does anyone know what that is?

The only stinglining I know of is when trains derail on curves.

It is mapping out the operation of train schedules on a stringline graph of their operation with the elements showing Trains based upon progrssing time and locations across the track segments being viewed.

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Posted by Lithonia Operator on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 1:13 PM

Thanks, Balt.

Still in training.


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Posted by NDG on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 2:32 PM
OT.
 
Class ' New Look ' GM Autobus my Father and myself rode, 1960, in one-time Salmon Paint scheme.
 
Astounding!! So Modern.
 
Air vents below windows inside to reduce Misting and Fogging.
 
 
 
Queen Elizabeth Hotel, CNR Central Station of CNR Electric Operation beyond bus.
 
 
 
 
At this time, 1959ish, these still operated at Rush Hour until recently.
 
Preserved.
 
Montreal Tramways Company No. 975. American Car and Foundry. Gasoline.
 
 
 
FYI.
 
Still Extant. Traction Power Feeders.
 
 
One has been Preserved in Museum.
 

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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 4:14 PM

BaltACD

 

 
Lithonia Operator
During the STB hearings on the Amtrak Gulf Coast issue, various railroad officials have referred to a train performance analysis method know as "stringlining." Does anyone know what that is?

The only stinglining I know of is when trains derail on curves.

 

It is mapping out the operation of train schedules on a stringline graph of their operation with the elements showing Trains based upon progrssing time and locations across the track segments being viewed.

 

When was the last time this thread was on topic?  Idea

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, April 20, 2022 4:52 PM

rdamon
 
BaltACD 
Lithonia Operator
During the STB hearings on the Amtrak Gulf Coast issue, various railroad officials have referred to a train performance analysis method know as "stringlining." Does anyone know what that is?

The only stinglining I know of is when trains derail on curves. 

It is mapping out the operation of train schedules on a stringline graph of their operation with the elements showing Trains based upon progrssing time and locations across the track segments being viewed. 

When was the last time this thread was on topic?  Idea

Just like old light bulbs - it will flicker on from time to time.

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, April 22, 2022 9:20 AM

Looks like some centerbeams went on the ground at Tower 55 in Ft. Worth yesterday.

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Posted by chutton01 on Friday, April 22, 2022 6:16 PM

Virtual Railfan has a clip up, looks like 5 or 6 or so centerbeams.
Perhaps they should start installing rotary couplers on CBs to lessen the number of their coupled neighbors that flip over during "incidents"...Hmm

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Posted by NDG on Friday, April 22, 2022 7:24 PM
Train hits semi trailer, hits SUV at Grade Crossing, Fatal.
 
 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Saturday, April 23, 2022 2:18 AM

Overmod

Edmonton trolleybuses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMBG4ELc6k

An American equivalent was Dayton, which I think still operates them with dual-mode "NexGen" coaches.

Thanks!  I especially enjoyed seeing the shots on Jasper Ave and 109 St, with the old CP downtown station, overpass and great big neon sign.  None of that remains today.  

We still have our U2 LRT cars in service, though they have been heavily rebuilt and I don't believe any are still in the original light blue and yellow livery.  

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Posted by SD70Dude on Saturday, April 23, 2022 2:20 AM

NDG
Train hits semi trailer, hits SUV at Grade Crossing, Fatal.
 

Thank You.

That crossing looks like a terrible setup, with a curve and trees on one side and a very short distance to an intersection on the other.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, April 23, 2022 11:45 PM

Strange that it could be determined that SUV was also trying to cross tracks??  Chain reaction that took back of of trailer into SUV.  Determining how that happened is questionable. 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 12:04 AM

Grand Trunk Pacific construction video.  This looks a lot like the Wabamun lake area about 50 miles west of Edmonton, in particular the lakeshore curve shot just after the 7 minute mark is a dead ringer for the curve just east of the village of Whitewood Sands.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyfDHIsdKxg

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 9:04 AM

SD70Dude
 
NDG
Train hits semi trailer, hits SUV at Grade Crossing, Fatal.
 

Thank You.

That crossing looks like a terrible setup, with a curve and trees on one side and a very short distance to an intersection on the other.

In the article it is stated that RCMP and the local police agency are requesting dash cam or other videos of the incident.  Don't Canadian locomotives have forward facing video cameras like many US locomotives have?

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 10:36 AM

blue streak 1
Strange that it could be determined that SUV was also trying to cross tracks??  Chain reaction that took back of of trailer into SUV.  Determining how that happened is questionable.

Very obvious even from the preliminary comments in the original story.  SUV was coming the other way, did not get very far past the tractor, and when the trailer was hit sideways by the impact it overrode the SUV (probably damaging the roof severely) and likely the two of them were then moved by the impact.

Being a bit more judgmental:  the SUV driver may have seen the truck coming across, and assumed that if the truck driver thought it was OK to cross with all that length and slow speed, she could dart across the other way while all his length was still on the crossing as a 'gauge' of sorts.  That might have been logical if she could see the oncoming train, but her first real view of it over the flatbed, had she been looking, would have been a few tenths of a second at most before the impact...

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Posted by NDG on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 12:29 PM
Similar?
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk_-RK_jlzc





Safety First.

Decades ago I was in a Run Thru Caboose talking to the Conductor.

This Caboose had a Diesel- Electric Power Plant beneath the Carbody to power the Lights, Markers Ditch Lights Refrigerator and Stove.

There were also Oil Burning Heaters.

The Caboose was on the Main Line and there was a Siding between it and the Station, the Siding holding about 50 Cars  40 Ft. and provided access to the North and South legs of the Wye.

The Wye was used to Turn Engines, Ploughs, MoW Equipments and such, but was Specifically used to Turn end-dumping Wood Chip Cars as their Doors had to be on South End for Chip Dumper @ Kraft Pulp Mill at this location.

The Chip Dumper was similar to a Turntable but Hinged upwards at it's South end, the Car door opening as on a Dump Truck, the Wood Chips cascading into the Pit and blown onto large piles as to their type.

The Mill put out 600 Tons of White Pulp a day back then which were moved in wrapped Bales in 40 Foot Boxes, 8 Ft Doors preferred for Fork Lift Loading, Propane. Brown Stock Pulp could be manufactured when quality of Chips lower.

At that time the Mill had a  4 Whl.Rail Runner to move cars on and off dumper. Note Bell.
 

https://www.basininstitute.org/home/image.html?zn=7&id=3e6f599a562e0236890cb0b3bd7243d5 

 

AFAIK. These CP 343400 Chip Cars were amongst FIRST NEW cars to wearCP Rail Action Red Paint and Multimark 1968-69.



The Dumper also handed Trucks.

Previously the Mill had a Home Made Switcher made from a small CPR Tender, Chain Drive on top of Truck  w GM Diesel which swiveled w Truck.

Crestbrook Switcher No. 003, Chain Drive Diesel  in Coal Bunker, Right End. Note Coal Sheet Rivet Line.

Floor filled w Concrete.

Orange/Light Green. 
 
Railway Class POS.
 

https://www.basininstitute.org/home/image.html?zn=7&id=06e496091b46cc8b5b3ee8f68c86e847



I left the Caboose and jumped off bottom step, noise from Diesel beneath concealing approach from Left of a High-Nose GP9 running long-hood first.

I did not look and all but stepped in front of Unit, it's leading Right hand rail brushing my left Cheek and Nose.

Bell under Pilot Diagonal Corner on F End.

Almost.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 2:57 PM

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t's leading Right hand rail brushing my left Cheek and Nose.

   Wow!  Talk about a wake-up!  I think I would still be shivering today.

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Posted by NDG on Monday, May 2, 2022 6:55 PM
FYI.
 
On Google. Monday May 02, 2022.
 
Elijah McCoy. 
 
 
 

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Posted by NDG on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 1:08 PM
Transition CPR CLC/F-M 1600 HP Locomotives.
 
CPR CLC C-Line Locomotives were equipped w Westinghouse Electrical Gear.
 
They ' Transitioned ' seamlessly with soft ' Clicks ' from Electrical Cabinet,
which protruded uncomfortably into Cab behind Crew, w smooth Traction at the Rail.
 
C-Lines were GOOD locomotives for Pull and held the rail WELL.  
Smoke from the Traction Motors would climb the sides of the Carbody
at the Stop at the Summit at Yahk, the Junction w the Spokane International/UP
after the previous 2-Hour Pull from Sirdar/Kootenay Landing.
 
Given Sand and even without, C-Lines would get there, or until they Boiled Dry.
 
CPR H-16-44 Locomotives had GE Electrical Gear.
 
When Making Transition at Full Throttle w Full Tonnage, they would Transition
 by Dropping Load, Making Transition and violently picking up Load again
 at Full Revolutions on the OP.
 
The Slack would run in and a ' pause ' could be felt in the Caboose followed 
by a vicious Jolt as train Stretched Out even seventy or eighty cars back.
 
If not ready, the Trainman's head would hit the Rear Cupola window
and spill his Coffee sometimes break the glass.
 
In Rain or greasy Rail, when the Units started to slip, or Sand ran out,
the slack would run in and out rhythmically in Caboose
advertising a Stall, Double and Flag may soon be in order.
 
When Slack a Major Factor traveling FAST, Tail End men sat sorda sideways
w Coffee or Tea out overalleyway between Cupola Seats.
 
Had to RIDE IT to Believe it!!
 
A SUF ' Wood ' Caboose rode nice on Leaf Springs!
 
Cupola had Fusee Racks w Red and Yellow Fusees, and, often
the FIVE 5 Minute GREEN Fusees on a Dowel C I L,  for Hand Signals
rather than a Red or Yellow where the latter two may be confused
 with Caution or Stop.
 
Usually, before Train Radio ( CP 1.  161.475 ) a five foot length
 of Train Order Hoop topped w a Yellow Cloth Flag was in a Fusee Hole,
 the Flag was waved out a Cupola Side Window, depending on curves, 
 to Highball the Head End when passing over Permanent or Temporary Flag
 and Lamp Protected Slow Orders and when Switch relined behind
 and Trainman Aboard.
 
By Night a Lamp was Used, or Yellow Fusee.
 
If Snowing or Fog, Engineer Guessed.
 
Often Telegraph Poles had small Black On White Square Signs
w Numerals 10 20 30 etc. showing car lengths to Siding Switch Stands for Slowing coming in and distance
from Switch Pulling Out and TM back on.
 
Diesels and Radio in our time.
 
FWIW.
 
CP 8552 at Tadanac CM&S Smelter. Location once named Smelter Junction.
Caption is Wrong.
 
 
This locomotive is painted in original scheme w Grey on Rad end
 but has had the Control Stand moved over so the SHORT Hood leads.
 Note ' F ' .
 
Note Sun Awning. Gets hot here and hosts Rattlesnakes.
 
Line branched at this location down thru Switchback to Trail and Up to Warfield
 and Rossland where they once met GN RY.
 
Just out of sight to right is Banjo Signal at Level Crossing.
 
FWIW 2.
 
Just after receiving it's Action Red Paint job,in January 1972,
CP 8552 was sent up to Warfield  4% to Assist CP 8900 Train Master
 and they hit Head On.
 
 CP 8552 in it's shiny NEW paint handled next to Caboose to Calgary,
 and Scrapped.
 
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Posted by NDG on Thursday, May 5, 2022 7:20 AM
Electric Locomotives.
 
FYI. 
 
 

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Posted by NDG on Friday, May 6, 2022 3:09 PM
Various CPR Updates, Information from Internet.
 
CPR Station Golden. Looking East. 1965.
 
 
Concrete Pumphouse Building and Storage Tank for Bunker Oil for Steam Locomotives.
 
GP9 and CLC Cab Unit on hand.
 
Ebay..
 
CP 8603 Golden B C. 1971. Train Eastbound.
 
 
 
Station roof above Radiators.
 
CLC Diamond Builders Plates later removed and Sold to Collectors.
 
Track to left Kootenay Central Branch/ Windermere Sub South
to Colvalli 166.7 Miles. Parallels Columbia and Kootenay Rivers.
 
Ford Bronco. Left.
 
 
CP 8418 Cranbrook 1980.
 
 
 
AFAIK.
 
This was the LAST Unrebuilt GP7!?
 
Run off of end of Yard Lead and sent in for Rebuild.
 
 
CP 4506 Old Fort Steele. 1974.
 
Fell thru washed out Abutment, Wild Horse Creek,. Scrapped Here.
 
 
 
 
 
CP 8605-8718 Cranbrook, 1974.
 
 
CP 8605 Converted from Long Hood as Front c. 1961.
 
Bulge Roof CP 8718 to Right of Horn is Air Duct welded to roof of
cab to conduct cooling air from Short Hood into top of Electrical Cabinet in Cab.
 
Original openings were in Cabinet Sides and let Heat and Gases into Cab. Crews Shoved Train Orders and Rags into slots, some of which fell into Relays and caused Fires.
 
With Pipe Extension on Train Line, if left down and not put up on Foot Board
as is shown, Glad Hand would drag over Hard Surface Roads and not
couple, or WORSE, NOT UNCOUPLE, and tear Piping out from under Unit.
 
Builders Plates have now been Removed and Sold to Collectors.
 
Locomotives have less than a year to go, Likewise Ice House to left.
Tank once for Storing, Heating and Lading Bunker Oil into Tenders, right.
Tank, Spouts and Stand have not long , either.
 
 
 
 
More.
 
 
 
 
Two CPR Stations No Electricity nor Running Water into Seventies.
 
 
 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, May 6, 2022 5:34 PM

Did the crew on 4506's train make it out?

Looks like part of 8605's pilot has been dented back, maybe it came into contact with the rail on some rough track?

Thanks for confirming that there really were green fusees, I've never seen one in person and even the yellow ones are rare now.  

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Posted by NDG on Friday, May 6, 2022 10:45 PM
Fusees.
 
Thank You, Sir.
 
The last GREEN Fusees, 5 Minutes, on a Hand Dowel I saw were c. 1965 in manufacture from C-I-L. in lockers, in Cabooses which had BINS for Fusees and Track Torpedoes.
 
As I understand GREEN Fusees 5 Min on a Stick were intended for Passenger Service and to be used more for Hand Signalling in congested Yards and Interlockings whilst Leading a Backing Passenger Car Draft a fair distance using Backing Hose w whistle into a Terminal.
 
Local Operating Conditions would dictate.
 
When traveling SLOW in Train Order Territory with NO ' Tail End ' by Train Order, you were obliged to toss out Red Fusees from rear of Caboose regularly to Protect Your Tail End on the move.
 
The NAIL was SUPPOSED to stick in Tie ( Not Concrete, Nor Metal, DUH! ) at a 45 Degree angle.
 
( Last time I looked North Switch Track Three 3 Fort Steele Yard had STEEL TIES. C. 1996. )
 
Another Train Three 3 Units, who had just set off 4000 Tons in a storage Track, could be overtaking you at Track Speed, or MORE, whilst you ground along at Single Digit ranges.
 
Some MoW  Flagging Rules required Caboose to Replace Torpedoes before Yellow Over Red Flag Exploded by YOUR Train.
 
 
CP 8605 could have hit a Rock. Rocks larger than Microwaves were SMALL in the Mountains, as those F Unit CN 9000 Guys KNOW West from Jasper!!
 
 
Medium Rock, Kootenay Division.
 
 
 
CN 9344, W Front MU purchased to Rebuild. Did not happen.
 
 
 
CP 4506 was SECOND Unit as I recall, Lead Unit made it across Wash Out at Abutment. We scoped it all out at the time.
 
For Modellers.
 
Cooling Air Duct Roof some, but NOT ALL CPR H-16-44s and NO Train Masters.
 
 
On Scrap Dock w Traveling Crane. CP Ogden Shops, Calgary 1976.
 
Electrical Cabinet w Vent Louvres, Top, visible thru Window.
 
Curved Cut Out ahead of Number was Heater and Fan on Running Board. = got really Cold and often froze when engine idling at - 40 C = No Heat in Cab,
= Friction Tape on Doors, Cigarette Packages to scrape Mail Slot in Frost on Windows inside.
 
Older Geeps had Heater Fans in Electrical Cabinet and really SUCKED!!
 
For some reason CP 8714 received a Rectangular Tubular Duct, Dude!
 
 
 
 
 

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Posted by NDG on Monday, May 9, 2022 12:35 PM
A Survivor.
 
Back in the Mid  Eighties I Trained down to the Coast and had some time to kill in Vancouver.
 
Immediately noticed how many things had changed and decided to travel by City Bus over the Lions Gate Bridge to visit the PGE/BCR Shops.
 
 
Much gone at this location.
 
This Photo SHOWS their H-10-44, ex Columbia and Cowlitz, facing the shop.
 
 
Absent were the Railway Research Shays.
 
 
 
And the Two Hunsletts.
 
 
Back on the Bus.
 
Decided to return Downtown by the Second Narrows Bridge.
 
 
Rail Second Narrows Bridge.
 
 
 
 
Whilst wending back Downtown on the GM Coach along the shore, pondering all what was not, looking out the window at the large Grain Elevators beyond the tracks along the Shore.
 
 
 
There were no trains in the way, and Just by Chance, thru a small slot, saw a CP 539 Switcher lurking in the Elevator.
 
We heard they were EXTINCT on CPR!!  BUT!!
 
 
Scroll Down.
 
 
A GREAT FIND, as Second Generation had claimed so many as happened w Steam not all that long ago.
 
A Mission for the 'Morrow!!
 
The next day we rounded up Two 2 Mountain ( 4-8-2 ) Bikes and cycled down to see!.
 
Yes, it was REAL!
 
Then we found out the truth.
 
The locomotive had been sold to the Elevator and never repainted.
 
( He had never been in the Cab of a Diesel so old. )
 
Controller Handle Hanging by it's Key on the Controller itself. 
 
 
Just Wonderful w appropriate exclamations.
 
Shut down for Track Work, Track dug up both ways.
 
Another for the Torch when no longer needed or worn out.
 
Wrong.
 
It was sent the Squamish, Preserved and Repainted and Survives Today.
 
 
A Survivor.
 
 
Thank You.
 
P.S.
 
The Vancouver New Look GM Coaches had lost their Chiming Fare Boxes which audibly rang out the coin fares deposited,
 
Roster.
 

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