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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, March 16, 2024 11:10 AM

BaltACD
Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think.

I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black.  

Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons).  Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too.  The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles.

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Posted by NDG on Wednesday, March 20, 2024 8:12 AM
FWIW.
 
When I was young CP 2816 was still in Service,  with others,  and passed the end of our street regularly.
 
CP 2816 can be seen at Time 27:30 in the following Film.
 
 
Within weeks Streetcars would be gone.
 
Steam still had a year to go.
 

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Posted by NDG on Friday, March 22, 2024 6:50 PM

 

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Posted by Backshop on Saturday, March 23, 2024 6:29 AM

tree68

 

 
BaltACD
Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think.

 

I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black.  

Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons).  Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too.  The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles.

 

You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, March 23, 2024 9:14 AM

Backshop
 
tree68 
BaltACD
Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think. 

I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black.  

Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons).  Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too.  The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles. 

You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel.

Isn't synthetic rubber composed of a lot of petroleum dirived compounds?  Plastics use petroleum in their manufacture.  The fractional distillation of the petroleum refining process has portions of refined petroleum being used in many manufacturing processes that one would not consider petroleum being involved in.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Saturday, March 23, 2024 12:22 PM

BaltACD

Isn't synthetic rubber composed of a lot of petroleum dirived compounds?  Plastics use petroleum in their manufacture.  The fractional distillation of the petroleum refining process has portions of refined petroleum being used in many manufacturing processes that one would not consider petroleum being involved in.

Syntehetic rubber is indeed composed of petroleum products, espcially if your definition of petroleum includes natural gas and natural gas liquids. The Time-Life Science Library book, Giant Molecules, has good descriptions of the feedstocks for various polymers (i.e. plastics) and was written by someone very well versed in the field.

Most plastics are essentially hydrocarbons, often with other elements such as nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine or chlorine added. Some exceptions include Teflon (PTFE) where the hydrogen has been completely replaced by fluorine and silicone where silicon replaces much of the carbon.

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, March 28, 2024 5:47 PM
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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:44 PM

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Martin Mars Water Bomber.

Wasn't long ago that they were available to buy.  Forget the price tag...

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Posted by NDG on Sunday, April 7, 2024 12:23 AM

 Thank You!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by NDG on Monday, April 8, 2024 1:48 PM

 

 

The Eclipse Special.
 
Back in 1963 CPR ran an ' Eclipse Special ' out of Montreal to get into ' The Path of Totality '
 
The train having CP 1800-8705 on the point. CP 1800 was the Star of this occasion.
 
CP 8705 was one of two from Out West and a stranger in the MLWs and Alcos of the East.
 
National Film Board was on hand to film it all.
 
 
Long Ago.

 

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Posted by NDG on Monday, April 8, 2024 7:38 PM
For the Modeller. 
 
CP 5174 P1 Twelve-Wheel Tender. Brandon 1937.
 
 
CP 5174 Eight Whl Tender. Winnipeg 1947.
 
 
 
P1.
 
 

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Posted by NDG on Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:20 PM
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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:36 PM

I've been startled by snakes a few times, once under a switchstand I was about to use, other times in my own yard.

Fortunately, we don't have a lot of venomous snakes in NY.  The timber rattler is the most common and can be found in many places.  The Massasauga is pretty much limited to two locales (one just north of Syracuse), and the copperhead is most likely found in the Catskills.

Had a Department of Environmental Conservation office once speak at a conference I attended.  She was experienced in handling snakes, but related that one time she'd removed a small rattler from somewhere, but forgot just how flexible their jaw is as she held it behind the head.  She didn't get bitten, but did suffer a scratch that hurt significantly for a while.

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Posted by NDG on Monday, April 15, 2024 1:16 PM
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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 6:41 PM

Some angry commentary on RyPN about that insurance clause.  Be interesting to see what the underwriters would expect from an operating plan for that locomotive...

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Posted by NDG on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 7:34 PM
Retired, and TIRED.
 
Ran it myself back in the Nineties.
 
Much could be said, but NOT here.
 
Then they exploded a Locomotive in Cuba.
 
 
AND  a Case Steam Tractor in Ohio.
 
 
Time to go, for MANY reasons.
 
If something ever happened with a Steam Locomotive in a Public Situation
 surrounded by People and their Children.
 
And So On.
 
Understand CN 1392 will not be operating, either?
 
 
Safety First! Applies, in Every Way. 
 
 
 

Thank You, Sir.

 

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, April 18, 2024 2:19 PM
More Re Engine 1077.
 
 
Time to repatriate MF&M No 1 and Dieselize.
 
 
SAFER than Steam and Cheaper?   
 
A LOCAL Historic Artifact.
 

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Posted by NDG on Friday, April 19, 2024 1:02 AM
FYI
 
Morrissey, Fernie and Michel was a Great Northern Railway subsidiary.
 
 
 
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Surviving Equipment > Preserved > Diesel 
 
Diesel Locomotives of Great Northern Subsidiaries.
Diesel locomotives of Great Northern subsidiaries:
 

Diesel locomotives of Great Northern subsidiaries:

Thank You.

 

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