edblysardIf so, wanting to have control of this forum should be an indication of someone or some group having very little life outside of their laptop.
If one happens to be a moderator who is responsible for maintaining order here, then situationally if they project an image of NOT being in control, potentially they might lose their bright shiny tin star.
So control has value, is such a scenario. Especially if he harbors concern that a favored group might get in a snit and pack up and leave on your watch.
He might even tolerate their ad hominem attacks on others, while protecting that favored group from like kind treatment
edblysardOh, and by the way, pick zugman, Water long over the dam, I'm afraid.
edblysardOh, and by the way, pick zugman,
Water long over the dam, I'm afraid.
Convicted One If one happens to be a moderator who is responsible for maintaining order here, then situationally if they project an image of NOT being in control, potentially they might lose their bright shiny tin star. So control has value, is such a scenario. Especially if he harbors concern that a favored group might get in a snit and pack up and leave on your watch. He might even tolerate their ad hominem attacks on others, while protecting that favored group from like kind treatment
As I recall, that was the way things usually played out.
C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan
schlimmI would hope that we can not only be civil in our posts but also tolerant of disagreements with each other and neither make personal attacks nor take criticism personally.
Please Schlimm, you are the LAST person who should be preaching on this forum to any active poster here about being polite, not to mention making personal attacks.
Many of your own comments are just downright acerbic.
Spare us.
Wow! A response of more than three words given by someone who contributes little but name-calling. "Kettle, meet pot."
tree68 gardendance You're welcome. And by the way, I don't expect anyone to respect me any more just because I'm a microsoft access visual basic and sql server programmer. With past experience with Basic, Qbasic, Fortran, Cobol, Pascal, and large routers under my belt (and fluent in a couple of them - or I was), you've got my respect...
gardendance You're welcome. And by the way, I don't expect anyone to respect me any more just because I'm a microsoft access visual basic and sql server programmer.
You're welcome. And by the way, I don't expect anyone to respect me any more just because I'm a microsoft access visual basic and sql server programmer.
With past experience with Basic, Qbasic, Fortran, Cobol, Pascal, and large routers under my belt (and fluent in a couple of them - or I was), you've got my respect...
Security+ here........You both have my respect........
schlimm Wow! A response of more than three words given by someone who contributes little but name-calling. "Kettle, meet pot."
"There you go again."
Ronald Reagan - 1980
Murray schlimmI would hope that we can not only be civil in our posts but also tolerant of disagreements with each other and neither make personal attacks nor take criticism personally. Please Schlimm, you are the LAST person who should be preaching on this forum to any active poster here about being polite, not to mention making personal attacks. Many of your own comment are just downright acerbic. Spare us.
Many of your own comment are just downright acerbic.
The perfessor forgets his past history. Those of us who have memories (mine grows ever so short every day) do recall those wonderful words that were less than encouraging.
BigJim EuclidI was told by the moderator that I should, “just let them play in the traffic until they do themselves in.” The only person that did themself in was you.
EuclidI was told by the moderator that I should, “just let them play in the traffic until they do themselves in.”
The only person that did themself in was you.
Hear Hear!!!!!!
I have a large router under by bed, does that count?
Also, I do not have any monitors in the trunk of my Caddilac.
RRKen Murray schlimmI would hope that we can not only be civil in our posts but also tolerant of disagreements with each other and neither make personal attacks nor take criticism personally. Please Schlimm, you are the LAST person who should be preaching on this forum to any active poster here about being polite, not to mention making personal attacks. Many of your own comment are just downright acerbic. Spare us. The perfessor forgets his past history. Those of us who have memories (mine grows ever so short every day) do recall those wonderful words that were less than encouraging.
The dear Professor is free to go to another forum site since he obviously feels so unloved here.
Murray The dear Professor is free to go to another forum site since he obviously feels so unloved here.
No one said he was unloved. However, I am sure Kim Jung Un is more popular.
Wow, schlimm, that is even a low for you!
Ken G Price My N-Scale Layout
Digitrax Super Empire Builder Radio System. South Valley Texas Railroad. SVTRR
N-Scale out west. 1996-1998 or so! UP, SP, Missouri Pacific, C&NW.
Lake schlimm Wow! A response of more than three words given by someone who contributes little but name-calling. "Kettle, meet pot." Wow, schlimm, that is even a low for you!
schlimm Lake schlimm Wow! A response of more than three words given by someone who contributes little but name-calling. "Kettle, meet pot." Wow, schlimm, that is even a low for you! Sorry but I'm not going to play your or Murray's old and tired games or name-calling.
Oh but Schlimm, you obviously forgot your prior post of treating people with respect. Your past posts of the last two pages suggest that you are hypocritical.
Are you hypocritical Schlimm?
schlimm Sorry but I'm not going to play your or Murray's old and tired games or name-calling.
Hi, everybody:
Can we please try to have a civil discussion? I hate to delete a thread that has as many pages as this one. I don't like to upset those who have valid points to share. If you continue attack each other, I will be forced to do so. C'mon, don't make me go there. We're all adults.
Thanks,
Ang
Angela Pusztai-Pasternak, Production Editor, Trains Magazine
Angela Pusztai-Pasternak Hi, everybody: Can we please try to have a civil discussion? I hate to delete a thread that has as many pages as this one. I don't like to upset those who have valid points to share. If you continue attack each other, I will be forced to do so. C'mon, don't make me go there. We're all adults. Thanks, Ang
Never been in a crew room have you? This BS is mild among men and their testosterone bumps.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
BaltACD Angela Pusztai-Pasternak Hi, everybody: Can we please try to have a civil discussion? I hate to delete a thread that has as many pages as this one. I don't like to upset those who have valid points to share. If you continue attack each other, I will be forced to do so. C'mon, don't make me go there. We're all adults. Thanks, Ang Never been in a crew room have you? This BS is mild among men and their testosterone bumps.
BaltACD,
I've received several complaints from forum users about this thread.
Angela Pusztai-Pasternak BaltACD Angela Pusztai-Pasternak Hi, everybody: Can we please try to have a civil discussion? I hate to delete a thread that has as many pages as this one. I don't like to upset those who have valid points to share. If you continue attack each other, I will be forced to do so. C'mon, don't make me go there. We're all adults. Thanks, Ang Never been in a crew room have you? This BS is mild among men and their testosterone bumps. BaltACD, I've received several complaints from forum users about this thread. Ang
Big boys don't complain - they deal with it.
That is why there is Private Messaging! Have a beef with someone - take it to PM's (not PMS)
BaltACD, the idea here is NOT to re-create a crew room, it's to have a place where people can discuss ideas intelligently and politely and safely. There's a growing awareness out there about how hostile forums can be to all kinds of people.
I'm a late-fifties white guy and I'll take my discussions with a big heap of politeness and humanity, thanks.
Angela, are you sure the complaints have been about this thread and not about certain specific people's posts in this thread?
Why can't you punish the offenders, for example suspend their accounts, instead of punishing all of us who want to read and participate?
This "I'm going to take away everybody's toys" action is one of the reasons why I left my prior otherwise beloved railroad website. Please don't make me pack up and try to find another one, or even worse have to eat crow and return to that old site, to everyone's great loss and detriment.
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Agreed Gardendance.
Based on the number of views, almost 7,000, and 200 posts, I'd say people are very interested in what we're discussing. No need to close it down.
Norm
jcburns BaltACD, the idea here is NOT to re-create a crew room, it's to have a place where people can discuss ideas intelligently and politely and safely. There's a growing awareness out there about how hostile forums can be to all kinds of people. I'm a late-fifties white guy and I'll take my discussions with a big heap of politeness and humanity, thanks.
Railroading and those who are involved in it at the field level are not big believers in 'big heap of politeness and humanity' - they are big believers in simple direct and sometimes very caustic communications - their lives can be endangered by those that don't communicate their reality in a emphatic and clear manner.
Politeness and humanity may be needed at the Board Room level (although I have overheard Board Room discussions that would make the crew room discussions seem tame).
Railroading is a rugged industry and the slightest lapse in attention or judgment can be fatal in a heartbeat. If one is easily offended, other employment needs to be secured.
BaltACD Railroading and those who are involved in it at the field level are not big believers in 'big heap of politeness and humanity' - they are big believers in simple direct and sometimes very caustic communications - their lives can be endangered by those that don't communicate their reality in a emphatic and clear manner.
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
To quote Jack Nicholson in 'A Few Good Men' - 'You can't handle the truth!'
If you act like a doormat on the railroad that's exactly how you will be treated. Any and all weakness is exploited. Never let them see your "buttons" cause they will push all of them. It was like this when I hired out and it hasn't changed.
Randy Stahl If you act like a doormat on the railroad that's exactly how you will be treated. Any and all weakness is exploited. Never let them see your "buttons" cause they will push all of them. It was like this when I hired out and it hasn't changed.
Awww.. your just saying that cause I push your buttons.
schlimm As several others have said, this is a public forum, not a club for whining railroaders of a certain type. If you want a private club, go there.
And if you can't stand the heat, why are you hanging around the kitchen?
Au contraire. You guys (Norm, R. Stahl, Murray, and now apparently BaltAcd, who always seemed more sophisticated) want a private club with your own juvenile code of misbehavior. You all whine and play narcissistic kids games to get the threads locked when anyone brings up a topic you can't handle with reason and logic. No wonder some of the other railroaders (dehusman) on here also object to this nonsense.
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