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UP/BNSF Collision in Chaffee, Missouri

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Posted by Ishmael on Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:00 PM

Part of the overpass came down, and a few automobiles went down with it.  Luckily no one was seriously injured. Seven people went to the hospital in nearby Cape Girardeau but all were released. Two were train crewmen, conductors according to the TV folks. It's quite a mess, but rail traffic has been going past my house all day so they must have cleared it up. (I live on the River Line at MP 11 and Chaffee is the next division point south)

A spokesman for the NTSB was interviewed on TV and said they were going to check the work records of all crewmen for the previous 72 hours. He's thinking crew fatigue perhaps?

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Posted by NP Eddie on Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:48 PM

All:

I find it a bit strange, but when an airlines goes down, a former pilot will give a detailed account of the cidrcumstances, but when a train derails the news  media is stupid.

Several years ago, a Twin Cities TV station was broadcasting just outside the new Minnesota Twins baseball park in Minneapolis. The young thing doing the report called the BNSF's Minneapolis to Willmar main line, a "spur line"!

Most reporters or ignorant with a capital "I".

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:16 PM

Very evident that one train had the signal for the crossing and one did not - the big question becomes - which one??  Which will be answered by dispatcher(s) and/or data that the crossing itself captures.  Then the question becomes Why?

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:34 PM

Randy Stahl

I haven't heard of any fatalities thank god. Hopefully it turns out that just a bunch of stuff got banged up and no humans were sacrificed.

Randy

MSNBC reported 2 train crew, several motorists injured, no fatalities.

What's really different about the coverage here versus the, "Mainstream," is the intelligence and relevance of the commentary.  Over there, starting with the first posted comment, all the partizani, anti-terrorists, conspiracy theorists and just plain ignorant came out to play.  I had to go half way down the page (and past two, "How can a train T-bone a train?" comments) before somebody admitted that they'd looked at a map and found the location in the photo above.  I already had it in another window...

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:03 PM

I haven't heard of any fatalities thank god. Hopefully it turns out that just a bunch of stuff got banged up and no humans were sacrificed.

 

 

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Posted by cmulligan01 on Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:15 PM

This is an example of why when something like an accident or derailment happens I usually find out on a Mainstream website (nbcnews.com this time) and then come here. Often someone here is more informed. Then I can get a later detailed story from Trains News Wire. Then if it's really significant (like the Chatsworth wreck) in a future Trains issue.

There is a great amount of quality people with very wide ranging knowledge here. IMO one of the best forums anywhere on the net.

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Posted by cmulligan01 on Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:04 PM

I see someone put a Google Earth pic up, thanks, Big thanks for the coordinates. I put in Chaffee, MO and followed to the coordinates you posted.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:46 PM

Here's what the location looks like:

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:26 PM

Apparently happened at an at-grade crossing of BNSF and UP - several news report say that one train "T-boned" the other.  It also happened right under an overpass of County Highway M, which then collapsed - near Chaffee, Missouri, at these Lat./ Long. coordinates:

N 37 12' 17" W 89 38' 24"

- Paul North.   

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