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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, August 22, 2011 1:17 PM

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Monday, August 22, 2011 10:33 AM

J, K & L

Japan Kyoto  34.986617° 135.742966°

KS Arkansas City  37° 2'43.73"N  97° 1'54.38"W
KS Dodge City  37°45'1.79"N 100° 0'17.83"W
KS Emporia  38°23'58.64"N  96°11'44.51"W
KS Goodland  39° 20' 28" N 101° 42' 55" W
KS Hutchinson  38° 3'2.11"N  97°52'19.47"W
KS Kansas City  39° 05' 25" N  94° 38' 24" W
KS Marysville  39°51'3.02"N  96°39'12.18"W
KS Newton  38° 02' 44" N  97° 20' 52" W
KS Osawatomie  38°29'42.12"N  94°57'4.11"W
KS Phillipsburg  39°45'56.77"N  99°19'28.29"W
KS Salina  38°51'5.73"N  97°36'22.89"W
KS Wellington  37°15'42.75"N  97°23'8.04"W
KS Wichita  37° 43' 58" N  97° 20' 03" W

KY Covington  39° 4'32.27"N  84°30'32.30"W
KY Louisville  38° 16' 08" N  85° 48' 09" W
KY Louisville  38°14'13.47"N  85°46'32.93"W
KY Loyall  36.855458° -83.349077°
KY Ludlow  39° 05' 30" N  84° 32' 48" W
KY Paris  38°12'5.76"N  84°15'32.57"W
KY Russell  38° 32' 10" N  82° 41' 58" W
KY Springlake  38°59'59.25"N  84°28'1.90"W

LA Baton Rouge  30° 28' 07" N  91° 11' 21" W
LA New Orleans  29° 54' 58" N  90° 06' 19" W
LA Shreveport  32° 30' 24" N  93° 30' 84" W

Just the "M"'s next.

 

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:47 PM

First, Thank you to MudChicken for info about the Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific that lead to 3 new entries in my list and one correction (all reflected in today's list).

Here are the "I"s:

IA Atkins  41°59'42.13"N  91°50'50.89"W
IA Boone  42° 3'42.46"N  93°51'52.79"W
IA Brooklyn  41°43'40.61"N  92°26'27.93"W
IA Cedar Rapids  41° 59' 18" N  91° 40' 09" W
IA Cedar Rapids  41° 59' 04" N  91° 40' 11" W
IA Cedar Rapids  41° 59' 13" N  91° 40' 15" W
IA Cherokee  42°44'40.67"N  95°33'27.65"W
IA Council Bluffs  41° 14' 00" N  95° 50' 04" W
IA Council Bluffs  41° 16' 09" N  95° 51' 40" W
IA Creston  41° 3'27.45"N  94°21'26.41"W
IA Davenport  41° 29' 14" N  90° 38' 12" W
IA Des Moines  41°35'16.69"N  93°34'23.28"W
IA Ft. Dodge  42°29'55.30"N  94°11'16.84"W
IA Iowa City  41° 39' 21" N  91° 31' 47" W
IA Iowa Falls  42°31'40.89"N  93°15'27.34"W
IA Lake Park  43°27'17.52"N  95°19'35.81"W
IA Manly  43°17'51.74"N  93°12'22.68"W
IA Marshaltown  42° 2'31.04"N  92°54'38.61"W
IA Mason City  43° 8'30.05"N  93°11'52.75"W
IA Mason City  43° 8'29.12"N  93°11'57.15"W
IA North Sioux City  42°31'45.96"N  96°28'34.68"W
IA Oelwein  42° 40' 59" N  91° 55' 36" W
IA Ottumwa  41° 0'34.52"N  92°24'15.11"W
IA Ottumwa  41° 1'15.13"N  92°26'53.71"W
IA Perry  41°50'39.72"N  94° 7'29.98"W
IA Sioux City  42°30'52.13"N  96°22'23.46"W
IA Waterloo  42° 30' 24" N  92° 19' 55" W

Note: the first of the 3 for Cedar Rapids, is not findable using Google Earth.  I have an old (and deteriorating) large panoramic photo of the area that shows two large roundhouses, one of which is detectable using Google Earth, and I used that to guess at the Lat/Lon of the other.

ID Nampa  43° 34' 14" N 116° 32' 50" W
ID Pocatello  42° 52' 06" N 112° 27' 06" W

IL Alorton  38° 36' 04" N  90° 07' 47" W
IL Amboy  41.712617° -89.331964°
IL Aurora  41° 45' 39" N  88° 18' 31" W
IL Austin  41°53'21.29"N  87°43'47.57"W
IL Bedford Park  41° 46' 10" N  87° 45' 28" W
IL Bensonville  41° 57' 13" N  87° 55' 55" W
IL Bloomington  40° 29' 21" N  89° 00' 24" W
IL Blue Island  41° 38' 58" N  87° 37' 34" W
IL Brooklyn  38° 39' 15" N  90° 09' 30" W
IL Carbondale  37°44'28.27"N  89°13'1.01"W
IL Centrailia  38°30'3.68"N  89° 8'42.94"W
IL Centralia  38° 30' 04" N  89° 08' 43" W
IL Champaign  40° 8'51.58"N  88°13'30.09"W
IL Cicero  41°50'44.66"N  87°44'28.01"W
IL Cicero  41°50'15.61"N  87°45'56.29"W
IL Decatur  39°50'55.58"N  88°56'38.29"W
IL East Hazel Crest  41° 34' 10" N  87° 39' 36" W
IL East St. Louis  38° 38' 00" N  90° 09' 07" W
IL Eola  41° 46' 18" N  88° 16' 23" W
IL Joliet  41° 32' 16" N  88° 03' 30" W
IL Riverdale  41°38'57.53"N  87°37'33.79"W
IL Rock Island  41°30'30.72"N  90°33'11.45"W
IL Savanna  42° 5'14.43"N  90° 8'28.44"W
IL Savanna  42° 5'20.53"N  90° 9'5.51"W
IL Silvis  41° 30' 57" N  90° 24' 56" W
IL Springfield  39° 47' 29" N  89° 38' 35" W
IL Stone Park  41° 53' 55" N  87° 53' 42" W
IL Waukegan  42° 21' 30" N  87° 49' 41" W
IL West Peoria  40° 40' 17" N  89° 36' 53" W

IN Anderson  40° 4'57.92"N  85°40'57.72"W
IN BeechGrove  39°43'5.37"N  86° 4'35.06"W
IN Bloomington  39° 08' 50" N  86° 32' 07" W
IN East Chicago  41°37'31.71"N  87°28'27.58"W
IN Elkhart  41°40'36.91"N  85°58'37.94"W
IN Elkhart  41°40'32.56"N  85°58'38.14"W
IN Evansville  37° 57' 48" N  87° 36' 27" W
IN Frankfort  40° 16' 55" N  86° 31' 18" W
IN Ft. Wayne  41° 04' 14" N  85° 07' 20" W
IN Garrett  41°21'6.57"N  85° 8'16.68"W
IN Gary  41° 36' 48" N  87° 21' 11" W
IN Hammond   41° 36' 14" N  87° 28' 00" W
IN Indianapolis  39° 45' 41" N  86° 08' 21" W
IN Indianapolis  39° 48' 24" N  86° 08' 22" W
IN Indianapolis  39°45'14.96"N  86° 5'28.54"W
IN Lafayette  40°26'31.03"N  86°52'45.75"W
IN Logansport  40°44'41.26"N  86°20'45.65"W
IN Logansport  40°44'45.06"N  86°20'50.48"W
IN Mt. Carmel  38°24'47.74"N  87°46'4.59"W
IN New Haven  41° 04' 21" N  85° 02' 01" W
IN Peru  40°45'23.75"N  86° 4'36.16"W
IN Peru  40°44'36.75"N  86° 5'11.54"W
IN Plymouth  41°20'24.98"N  86°19'11.35"W
IN Princeton  38°20'34.98"N  87°33'30.26"W
IN Richmond  39°50'15.91"N  84°52'24.72"W
IN South Bend  41°39'23.83"N   86°17'2.76"W
IN Terra Haute  39°26'55.89"N  87°23'34.73"W
IN Washington  38° 39' 25" N  87° 11' 40" W
IN Washington  38°39'25.21"N  87°11'47.95"W

Italy Napoli  40°51'15.69"N  14°17'34.08"E
Italy Napoli  40°51'17.59"N  14°17'36.70"E
Italy Napoli  40°51'18.76"N  14°17'40.08"E

 

Short list next time, Japan, Kansas, Kentucky and Lousiana. (And that will not even be 1/2 way!)

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:04 PM

Here are some more:

DC Washington  38°55'3.64"N  76°58'58.73"W

DE Wilmington  39° 44' 41" N  75° 31' 28" W

Denmark Roskilde  55°38'9.06"N  12° 4'47.02"E

England Derby  52°54'59.65"N   1°27'38.04"W

FL Pensacola  30°24'31.97"N  87°14'34.25"W

France Bordeaux  44°49'0.93"N   0°33'41.31"W
France Paris  48° 54' 41" N   2° 21' 17" E 
France Paris  48° 45' 25" N   2° 26' 13" E 

GA Athens  33° 57' 57" N  83° 22' 28" W
GA Atlanta  33° 43' 54" N  84° 23' 53" W
GA Atlanta  33° 46' 02" N  84° 24' 01" W
GA Atlanta  33° 48' 00" N  84° 26' 18" W
GA Savanna  32° 04' 32" N  81° 06' 06" W
GA Summerville  34° 28' 43" N  85° 20' 47" W

Guatemala Zaccapa  14°58'5.74"N  89°32'40.01"W

HI Lahaina  20°52'48.39"N 156°40'45.84"W

Hungary Budapest  47°28'3.41"N  19° 5'26.19"E
Hungary Budapest   47°32'31.29"N  19° 5'50.75"E
Hungary Budapest  47°32'32.21"N  19° 5'56.70"E

 

Next time I will do at least some of the "I"'s,  Long list (89) if I do all of them at one time. Iowa, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, and Italy.

 

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Posted by Dragoman on Monday, August 15, 2011 10:22 PM

Of course there is one more SanFrancisco cable car turntable -- the north-end terminus of the Powell-Hyde line at Bay & Taylor Streets.  (Both Poweel-Hyde & Powell-Mason lines have the same south terminus, as previously noted, at Powell & Market.)

Some of the other cable car lines go to the California Street line, which goes along California St. from Van Ness Ave to Market St at Drumm St -- but neither terminus has a turntable, since those cable cars are double-ended.

The "cable car barn" (and Cable Car Museum) is on Mason St, between Washington & Jackson Streets.  Not really a "roundhouse", and I don't know if there is a turntable inside the building, but that's where they park!

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:17 PM

And an OOPS! in the Richmond coordinates... no wonder you could not find it!

The two Richmond sites should be:

CA Richmond  37° 56' 05" N 122° 22' 40" W
CA Richmond  37°57'1.18"N 122°21'32.29"W

 EDIT: 8/16/2011

add:

CA Union City  37°36'58.60"N 122° 2'43.11"W

 

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:06 PM

Found another one in CA...

CA Concord  37°57'11.29"N 122° 1'29.78"W

I think this is another BART terminus similar to the one in Richmond.

I need to follow these lines around a bit more to see if there are others.

 

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:43 PM

Thanks!  Add another Turntable to the list for California:

CA San Francisco  37°47'4.94"N 122°24'27.50"W

The 'north end' is the one at:

 37°48'25.35"N 122°25'16.39"W

Are there other turntables for the cable cars?  Some of the tracks seem to diverge and head off in other directions than just between the two turntables I have now.

 

The 2nd Richmond one is in a seperate yard to the northeast... Parallel to 13th St. near Costa Ave).  I have it labeled (in other notes) as being part of "BART".  On Google Earth, the images show lots of what appear to be passenger cars at that site. 

The 1st one (to the southeast, the yard runs parallel and between Castro Ave and Richmond Pkwy) is a freight yard (tank cars, covered hoppers, etc.) and what appears to be an engine terminal (lots of engines around).

 

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Posted by Dragoman on Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:28 PM

Also, the 2 Richmond, CA locations appear to be the same ex-Santa Fe yard.  One turntable is still clealy visible.  Was their a second, or is the 2nd (slightly to the NE) the location of an old engine house?

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Posted by Dragoman on Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:20 PM

Of your two San Francisco, CA entries, one (the first) was for the State Belt on the Embarcadero -- the roundhouse is still intact, having been converted into offices.

What caught my eye was tthe second -- the Fisherman's Wharf terminus of the Powell-Hyde cable car line.  There is another similar turntable at the other end of the line, at the foot of Powell Street (at Market Street).  I can't figure out coordinates, but if you search 1 Powell St, San Francisco, CA on a map search program, you should be able to make it out.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:08 PM

Got waylaid by real life, sorry... here is the next batch:

CA Bakersville  35° 22' 36" N 118° 59' 10" W
CA Bayshore?  37°42'5.15"N 122°24'23.23"W
CA Bloomington  34° 3'59.54"N 117°21'54.78"W
CA Davenport  37° 3'46.40"N 122°13'38.94"W
CA Dunsmuir  41°12'37.20"N  75°37'32.75"W
CA Folsom  38°40'36.08"N 121°10'45.13"W
CA Jamestown  37°56'59.78"N 120°25'0.79"W
CA Los Angeles  34° 05' 51" N 118° 14' 21" W
CA Redondo  34° 01' 09" N 118° 13' 33" W
CA Richmond  37° 56' 05" N 122° 22' 40" W
CA Richmond  37°56'4.80"N 122°22'39.58"W
CA Roseville  38° 44' 47" N 121° 17' 28" W
CA Sacramento  38° 35' 17" N 121° 30' 04" W
CA Sacramento  38° 35' 07" N 121° 30' 19" W
CA Sacramento  38°35'13.76"N 121°30'4.17"W
CA San Diego  32° 42' 10" N 117° 09' 14" W
CA San Francisco  37°48'16.06"N 122°24'11.25"W
CA San Francisco  37°48'25.35"N 122°25'16.39"W
CA San Jose  37° 20' 18" N 121° 54' 30" W
CA Stockton  37° 56' 05" N 121° 16' 26" W

CO Colorado Springs  38° 52' 00" N 104° 49' 54" W
CO Colorado Springs  38° 50' 25" N 104° 51' 36" W
CO Como  39°18'58.05"N 105°53'27.03"W
CO Denver  39°45'43.67"N 104°59'39.20"W
CO Denver  39°43'39.39"N 105° 0'21.61"W
CO Durango  37° 16' 05" N 107° 52' 59" W
CO Golden  39° 46' 18" N 105° 11' 31" W
CO Grand Junction  39° 3'37.05"N 108°34'6.41"W
CO Hugo  39° 8'1.68"N 103°28'26.38"W
CO Leadville  39°15'33.92"N 106°17'19.77"W
CO Pueblo  38°15'37.06"N 104°36'52.25"W

CT Danbury  41°23'49.81"N  73°26'46.61"W
CT East Hartford  41° 46' 45" N  72° 37' 47" W
CT Hartford  41° 46' 48" N  72° 40' 10" W
CT Willimantic  41°42'53.49"N  72°14'8.24"W

Cuba Guantanamo  20° 8'55.44"N  75°12'10.57"W

Czech Republic Havlickuv Brod  49°35'59.39"N  15°35'19.53"E
Czech Republic Prague  50° 3'39.18"N  14°27'36.35"E

 

Have fun!

Next up, a rather short list of lots of places: Washington DC, Delaware, Denmark, England, Florida, France, Georgia, Guatemala, Hawaii, and Hungary.

 

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Posted by tatans on Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:32 PM

AGAIN,  I didn't READ the message before answering, ----sorry !

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:44 PM

Thanks, but...  Yep, have that one.  It will show up in this thread when I get down to "S" in the alphabet.  (I am going by the first letter of the State in the U.S., Province in Canada, and Country elsewhere.) I will post the next 38 in my list (California, Colorado, Connecticut, Cuba and Czech Republic) tomorrow

 

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Posted by tatans on Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:40 AM

Try:  50° 23' 17'' N     105° 32' 15'' W  - - - -  Moose Jaw , Saskatchewan, Canada.

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Roundhouses and Turntables (and transfer tables)
Posted by Semper Vaporo on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:22 PM

Several years ago a few of us here were using Google Earth to look for RR Roundhouses.  (I have lost track of the thread where it was discussed and the names of those that were exchanging info.)  In another recent thread I mentioned my list and it was requested to make it available to others.

I have decided to do it in small increments.  There are about 80 States/Countries in the list, some have just one entry and some have a couple dozen; at 487 entries there are too many to list all at once and have any meaningful discussion about them.  So, I have decided I will just take my alphabetized list and post a group of about 20 every other day or so.  It should take about a month and a half to get the whole list in this thread.   After we have gone though my list, I will make the (updated and probably corrected) Google Earth KMZ file and my Excel spreadsheet available to anyone that wants them.

Please note that my fingers sometimes decide to press keys that my brain didn't select, so there may be some errors in the list (and sometimes my brain directs my fingers wrongly, too... Last night I discovered that the roundhouse I listed in "Caliente, California" is really in Nevada!  Oops!).

Also, I sometimes have trouble deciding with which city the place is properly associated, so I may list a city that makes no sense to those that know the real place.

So, if you find a silly mistake, please just point it out without too much snickering or flame and I will correct my list.

If you know of more turntables, roundhouses or transfer tables, please post info about them and I will add them to my list.  Please give more information than just that there used to be one in some city, I am willing to hunt for a new place using Google Earth, but try to give some more detail about where it was, like; the direction from the center of the city/town, bounding streets or other landmarks, etc.  If I can find specific evidence on Google Earth of where it existed, I will add it to the list, otherwise it will have to just exist on your personal list.

I will list the State/Country, City, Lat and Lon. 

If you highlight the Lat,Lon here and type Ctrl-C, then go to Google Earth, click in the "Fly to" text box in the Search tab, then type Cntl-V and click the magnifying glass icon (or type the Enter key), Google Earth to take you to that location, and you can zoom in or out to your liking.

Also, note that Google Earth is constantly updating the images, but has a feature called Historical Imagery where you can view the older images.  Some of the places I have found are now parking lots, interstate highways, other buildings or even farm fields, but if you use the Historical Imagery feature you will find what I did a few years ago.  (The Historical Imagery icon is the clock icon in the toolbar at the top of the Google Earth window [7th from the left].  Just click it and a slider bar will appear that you can drag to the left to see the older images.)

Here is the first 25 in my list:

AB, Canada Calgary  50° 59' 08.74" N 114° 6'34.55"W
AB, Canada Edmonton  53° 30' 51.95" N 113°29'23.66"W
AB, Canada Edmonton  53° 35' 03.26" N 113°31'37.32"W

AL Birmingham  33° 32' 25" N  86° 50' 11" W
AL Birmingham  33° 31' 45" N  86° 50' 27" W
AL Huntsville  34° 44' 04" N  86° 35' 22" W
AL Mobile  30°43'27.11"N  88° 2'59.64"W
AL Montgomery  32° 23' 25" N  86° 18' 24" W
AL Tarrant City  33° 34' 12" N  86° 47' 12" W

AR Eureka Springs  36°24'52.82"N  93°44'0.75"W
AR Malvern  34°21'54.87"N  92°48'59.88"W
AR North Little Rock  34° 45' 52" N  92° 15' 04" W
AR Van Buren  35°25'44.96"N  94°20'35.74"W

Austria Strashof an der Nordbahn,  48°19'32.24"N  16°40'8.58"E

AZ Clarkdale  34°46'41.61"N 112° 3'32.97"W
AZ Phoenix  33° 27' 21" N 112° 06' 04" W
AZ Tucson  32° 12' 16" N 110° 58' 45" W
AZ Williams  35°15'12.89"N 112°11'8.63"W
AZ Winslow  35° 1'47.05"N 110°42'55.84"W

BC, Canada Coquitlam  49° 15' 27" N 122° 45' 33" W
BC, Canada Vancouver  49°16'24.00"N 123° 7'15.90"W
BC, Canada Victoria West  48° 25' 47" N 123° 22' 54" W

Bolivia Viacha  16°39'12.00"S  68°17'27.86"W

Bulgaria Ruse  43°51'39.95"N  25°59'5.56"E
Bulgaria Solfia  42°42'39.76"N  23°19'44.72"E

 

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