I don't see the roundhouse and turntable in Chadron, NE. on the list. It has been purchased and it and the line to it has received a grant to make upgrades to put it back into service as a contract railroad equipment facility.
Nuremberg, Germany - DB - 2 half roundhouses side by side with turntables, first one the leads are electrified for electric locomotives
49° 24' 50.26" N 11° 05' 17.16" E
The second is used for diesels
49° 24' 47.89" N 11° 05' 22.83" E
Hamburg-Wilhelmstadt - DB mostly abandoned
53° 30' 40.90" N 10° 00' 23.32" E
Hamburg-Eidelstedt Freight Yard Roundhouse with turntable, notice the long building for servicing ICE high-speed trainsets immediately to the south.
53° 36' 28.84" N 9° 52' 52.78" E
Meiningen, Germany - DB Roundhouse with turntable
50° 34' 25.79" N 10° 25' 17.60" E
Meiningen, Germany - DB Steam locomotive works -home of DB's operating steam collection and one of the most capable steam workshops in the Western World. Roundhouse with turntable
50° 34' 54.21" N 10° 25' 09.79" E
Hanau, Germany - DB remains of two roundhouses each with a turntable one above the other
50° 06' 54.33" N 8° 56' 28.92" E
Neuenmarkt-Wirsberg, Germany - German National Steam Museum, Roundhouse with Turntable
50° 05' 37.50" N 11° 34' 54.93" E
Bremen, Germany - DB remains of two Roundhouses with Turntables
53° 05' 08.85" N 8° 48' 33.94" E
Lübeck, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable filled in.
53° 51' 45.77" N 10° 39' 30.48" E
Rostock, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable
54° 04' 52.00" N 12° 08' 46.39" E
Wismar, Germany - DB Remains of Roundhouse with Turntable
53° 53' 50.65" N 11° 28' 07.32" E
Kiel, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable
54° 18' 25.32" N 10° 07' 40.02" E
Stralsund, Germany - DB THREE Roundhouses with Turntables
54° 17' 56.85" N 13° 05' 07.68" E
Szczecin, Poland - PKP Roundhouse with Turntable
53° 24' 58.93" N 14° 33' 45.22" E
Leipzig, Germany - DB Two side by side Roundhouses with Turntables
51° 21' 10.19" N 12° 23' 20.04" E
Remains of third Roundhouse with Turntable here
51° 21' 04.13" N 12° 24' 01.35" E
Riesa, Germany - DB Remains of Complete circular Roundhouse with Turntable
51° 18' 28.04" N 13° 16' 47.04" E
Dresden, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable
1st one 51°02' 07.58" N 13° 42' 31.92" E
2nd one 51° 02' 21.03" N 13° 42' 42.25" E
Ulm, Germany - DB Roundhouse with Turntable, remains of two more
48° 24' 16.74" N 9° 58' 14.65" E
Probably every German city of any significance that I didn't mention has at least one, except Stuttgart and Munich which have been extensively remodeled.
That's all for tonight!
Three turntables on the Long Island Rail Road:
NY Greenport 41° 05' 57.26N 72° 21' 50'' W
NY Jamaica 40° 41' 46.46N 73° 49' 23.90''W
Turntable & roundhouse both still in service, transfer table missing
NY Oyster Bay 40°52'29.04'' N 73° 31' 42.92''W
I think these were the only turntables on the post WW II LIRR, most places had a wye for turning.
Jim
43-33-12N and 96-43-13W will bring up the 2-stall roundhouse of the IC in Sioux Falls,SD. It's now an auto parts yard. Turntable gone.
Milwaukee had a nice large roundhouse and turntable just across the river to the NW. Unfortunately indigents managed to burn it to the ground one cold winter night a few years ago. The city was planning to save it.
OR Portland 45° 29' 28" N 122° 38' 45" W OR Portland 45° 38' 58" N 122° 41' 10" W
122° 41' 10" W
The first one is the current home of SP4449 and SPS700. They'll be moving shortly though, as UP needs the space they're in.
The second coordinate is actually in Vancouver, WA, just a bit north of Portland, OR.
In NY -
At 41 16 07.47 N 73 46 51.04 W in Yorktown Heights. There was a turntable on the Putnam Division of the New York Central. There was also a small rail yard. This is where most of the commuter trains for the division turned. It's now a historical display, but if you go back in time you can see the old turntable pit.
At approximately 41 11 35.64 N 3 53 18.02 W in Croton-on-Hudson, NY. There were two turntables for the New York Central's Harmon yard where steam was removed and replaced with electric for the ride into Manhattan. The land where the turntables and roundhouses were was sold to a developer a while back and townhouses built over the area. There is no trace of the turntables.
There was also a turntable in Poughkeepsie, NY - but I don't know the location.
Nice project you have going.
Here, courtesy of the C&O Historical Society, is a list of turntables that existed on the C&O. I hope it helps (and that people will assist you with similar listings from other railroads).
Indiana:
Peru, Muncie
Kentucky:
Ashland, Allen, Pikeville, Wayland, Mt. Sterling, Netherland, Louisville, Russell (2), Maysville, Stevens, Covington.
Ohio:
Cincinnati, Cheviot, Columbus (Parsons, SE of town), Marion, Walbridge (SE of Toledo), Toledo, Logan, Nelsonville, Pomeroy.
Virginia:
Phoebus, Richmond (both at Fulton and 17th Street), Dillwyn, Charlottesville, Waynesboro, Clifton Forge (2), Lynchburg, New Castle, Hot Springs, Covington, Alleghany.
West Virginia:
Ronceverte, Marlinton, Hinton, Stone Cliff, Meadow Creek, Nallen, Gauley Bridge, Handley, Pratt, Charleston, Huntington, Kingston, Danville, Madison, Sproul, Whitesville, Peach Creek (Logan), Taplin.
This list was dated 1935; I suspect that most, if not all, of these would have lasted into the 1950s.
As for Ohio, I'd be surprised if you couldn't find something around Bellefontaine.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
Too few left to break it into two lists... So here are the rest of them:
A-the-a, a-the-a, -a-the-a... That's all Folk's!
After a few days for more additions and/or corrections, I'll consolidate it all and make both a Google Earth KMZ file and an Excel spreadsheet available (links to files on the web).
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
Semper Vaporo That makes TWELVE in Switzerland! Maybe it is just because the images of Switzerland on Google Earth are particularly clear, but all the RR properties (the roundhouses in particular) are very clean and well maintained.
That makes TWELVE in Switzerland! Maybe it is just because the images of Switzerland on Google Earth are particularly clear, but all the RR properties (the roundhouses in particular) are very clean and well maintained.
Cleanliness is SOP for Switzerland. There are still many separate railway companies in Switzerland each of which has its own maintenance facility all of which need to be checked.
Here is another one
Meiringen, Switzerland - Zentralbahn
Turntable 46° 43' 36.85" N 8° 11' 10.36" E
Transfer Table 46° 43' 37.98 N 8° 10' 54.46" E
Thanks again! I hunted all over Switzerland and only found 2 (neither of which you listed!)
I think I have found another one, adjacent to another one (only a few car lengths away). It appears to have been built to turn longer cars and to not have to shut down the roundhouse to rebuild that one. Do you know if this is true?
The Roundhouse is at:
The 2nd (larger) one is just a couple of carlengths West Southwest of it.
EDIT:
Semper Vaporo Thanks... But I have some questions to get the city names right... I name my findings by the nearest city name that Google Earth puts screen and I have found that I am wrong often because the place is really associated with some other city that may not be the closest. I realize that city boundaries are often intertwined and confused and that Google Earth may label some suburbs that may not be truely associated with the site I am looking at. (And sometimes Google Earth is just plain wrong!)
Thanks...
But I have some questions to get the city names right... I name my findings by the nearest city name that Google Earth puts screen and I have found that I am wrong often because the place is really associated with some other city that may not be the closest. I realize that city boundaries are often intertwined and confused and that Google Earth may label some suburbs that may not be truely associated with the site I am looking at. (And sometimes Google Earth is just plain wrong!)
Depends on how you want to list them, based on how they are really named in Switzerland or upon a system generated by Google Earth, which appears to be based on Hamlets which are not officially recognized as a political subdivision in Switzerland. In Switzerland it goes down like this Canton (State), Bezirk or depending on language (District), Commune, Gemeinde, Kreis, Stadt (Municipality or City).
The 1st one you have listed as being Vitznau and I can find that name on Google Earth, but it is associated with the station adjacent to the turntable and a metropolitan area to the north. The city names that appear nearest the station are: Seemli and Hinterbach.
Vitznau is the Gemeinde (Municipality) governing all of the Canton of Luzern east of Weggis. Seemli and Hinterbach are hamlets that would be known to locals, but do not have any legal existence.
Gemeinde Vitznau
The 2nd one is closer to Pedemonte and Bollette.
Similar problem here. Bellinzona exists and is the capital of the Canton of Ticino. I don't find any official reference to the other two.
I would have associated the 3rd one with Igis.
Here the situation is different. Igis is the correct Gemeinde (Municipality). Landquart comes from the hamlet (unofficial), Bezirk (District -official), and railroad name for the location. Remember the District is the intermediate level of government, above the Gemeinde. I believe the railroad name predates the area being annexed into Igis.
It might be best to label this one as RhB Landquart Shops, Igis, Switzerland.
Can you shed any light on how you came up with the names. BTW: if anyone wants to use the coordinates as they appear in the posting, you may have to shorten the compass direction names to just the first letter ("N" for North, etc.). Google Earth works for me that way, but did not like the full compass direction name.
Can you shed any light on how you came up with the names.
BTW: if anyone wants to use the coordinates as they appear in the posting, you may have to shorten the compass direction names to just the first letter ("N" for North, etc.). Google Earth works for me that way, but did not like the full compass direction name.
Notice that I added more locations to my original posting. There are likely many more in Switzerland that I can look up.
beaulieu A few to add to your list; Vitznau, Switzerland - Rigibahn turntable only, rack for cogwheel equipped, 2 tracks - cross pattern 47° 00' 33.69" North 8° 28' 57.75" East Bellinzona, Switzerland - Swiss Federal Railway (SBB) San Paolo Yard turntable only 46° 12' 11.84" North 9° 2' 12.17" East Landquart, Switzerland - Rhätische Bahn (RhB) Roundhouse with turntable 46° 57' 50.60" North 9° 33' 20.39" East
A few to add to your list;
Vitznau, Switzerland - Rigibahn turntable only, rack for cogwheel equipped, 2 tracks - cross pattern
47° 00' 33.69" North 8° 28' 57.75" East
Bellinzona, Switzerland - Swiss Federal Railway (SBB) San Paolo Yard turntable only
46° 12' 11.84" North 9° 2' 12.17" East
Landquart, Switzerland - Rhätische Bahn (RhB) Roundhouse with turntable
46° 57' 50.60" North 9° 33' 20.39" East
Geneva, Switzerland - Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) Cornavin station turntable only
46° 12' 53.84" North 6° 08' 31.93" East
Erstfeld, Switzerland - Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) Traverser
46° 49' 06.91" North 8° 39' 01.99" East
Olten, Switzerland - Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) Main Car Shops
Traverser 47° 21' 39.14" North 7° 54' 56.16" East
Turntable 47° 21' 42.80" North 7° 55' 03.04" East
Realp, Switzerland - Dampf Furka Bahn (historic Steam railway) Turntable former roundhouse.
46° 35' 36.62" North 8° 30' 01.04" East
Spiez, Switzerland - Bern -Lötschberg - Simplon Railway (BLS) main shops traverser only
46° 40' 51.98" North 7° 41' 10.92" East
There are probably many more in Switzerland if you are interested.
The next batch:
There, that'll keep ya busy!
I spent some time AGAIN studying the images of Galesburg, Illinois and FINALLY found where I was sure a roundhouse existed.
And entering the whole address from Paul's post (just did a copy and paste of everything in the last line after the words "Go to") took me right to the roundhouse and turntable. That makes it EASY! Thanks.
In Louisiana, the New Orleans Public Belt RR (NOPB.com) has a turntable still in use. I'm using a borrowed computer and don't have access to Google Earth, so don't have coordinates handy, but sattelite view on Mapquest shows a good view of it. Go to 4822 Tchoupitoulas St, New Orleans, La.
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The "N"'s:
I was just wandering around on Google Earth again. I zoomed way out with all the pushpins showing all the turntables/roundhouses I have found (makes for a mighty yellow screen!). I do this every once in a while, looking at the gaps and blank areas. I then go looking for towns in one of those areas that I figure were associated with a RR or maybe cattle or grains or maybe transloading to ships. Way too many show no signs there were ever RRs in the vicinity, even though I am sure they could not have existed without them.
Most often I find a place where there is an area where I am sure one should be, but find an Interstate highway interchange instead.
Often I have to switch to different years in the Historical Imagery feature, and it is not always the oldest image that proves the most useful in finding the telltales of where a turntable or roundhouse were.
Every once in a while I stumble upon something.
I was looking at central Michigan and figured Lansing should have something, but I could not find a thing. So i followed a rail line to the southwest right to Battle Creek... Bingo! Another one! And follow some East and yet another one in Jackson. I decided that Muskegon should have had some RR operations, but found nothing, so I worked my way north and found something in Ludington. Following lines north to Manistee finds another.
This could go on all afternoon, but I have other things to do now.
Consolidation of the above help...
Thanks for the leads, everybody.
Several of the above are only visible if you select just the right historical image. Ground vegetation certainly can hide or enhance the ability to detect the footprint of a roundhouse.
Some of the others I cannot find any evidence, even though my somewhat practiced eye at finding roundhouses sure says that there just had to have been one in a certain area, just based on the topology of the land (and tracks and streets). But without the real clues of radial lines on the ground or semi-circular walls/foundations, I just don't feel like guessing the location of the center of the turntable (roundhouse 'focal point').
I think inch53 mistyped, I found the round house at
39 51'32N 88 09'43.19W
James
Zwingle,
There’s one more in ILL you missed for sure.
The C&EI had a round house [still there i think] and turn table [gone] in Villa Grove ILL. 39 09’32.00”N 88 09’ 43.19” w
And the NYC and PRR both had round house in Terre Haute Ind, but neither one of the footprints show up on Google maps for me. You might have better luck.
NYC was in this area, 39 29’ 54.31”N 87 22’ 48.04”W
PRR was somewhere round here, 39 28’ 54.76”N 87 21’ 53.76”W
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/4309
You might be able to find something in North Yard, Muskegon, Michigan (not sure they had a turntable, but it would be logical).
You can definitely find evidence of the roundhouse and turntable at Durand, Michigan. Go northwest from the diamond to the yard, then stay along the south side of the yard.
Grand Haven definitely had a turntable at one point (I understand the engine house was rectangular, though): I couldn't find any evidence of it, though, as things have been pretty well paved over in that area. The old GTW station was at 1 North Harbor Drive; go northeast on Harbor Drive another block and a half to where it was...it's now under the street and/or a parking lot.
Millinocket Maine , roundhouse, turntable,coal tower, ashpit......
The "M"'s:
And yours is such a great list! Quite a project! Thank you again for sharing it.
Okay... added more in Kansas:
And, no I had not found the one in Cullen, Louisiana, but since it does show in Google Earth, then I am adding it to the list.
To reiterate... if I can find evidence of where the roundhouse or turntable exists, or at one time existed, then I will add it to the list. It may only be a depression where the turntable pit was or a vague semicircular remnant of a wall or radial striations on the ground, and that is enough to add it to my list.
I have a few that I was able to determine where the roundhouse was by triangulating off of buildings, streets and/or other landmarks that appear in a photograph and pinpointed the center of the roundhouse on Google Earth by looking for those landmarks that are still visible and doing the same triangulation.
if I can't find it or find a way to determine where the center of the turntable/roundhouse WAS then I won't add it to "MY" list (feel free to add anything to any list YOU have).
Semper Vaporo --
You may have to subtract one (if you had it on your Louisiana list) --
"Historical train turntable, buildings razed" in Cullen, LA.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Historical-train-turntable-buildings-razed-2135611.php
Hint Coffeyville: N37 01' 46.0" W95 37' 28.1" http://local527.freeservers.com/photo.html
Hint Coolidge: N 38 02 28.0 W102 01' 02.8 http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM90YV_Coolidge_Kansas anything aerial pre-1985 ought to show the RH floor (after that two large polebarn haysheds start obscuring the brickwork)
Hint Syracuse: N37 58' 56.5" W 101 45' 41.6 http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,2149328 a PBX tower & radio system dogshouse sit on the RH pit along with two grain elevator storage tracks now.
Hint: Elkhart: N 36 59' 49.0" W101 53' 53.4" (1913-1926 Roundhouse moved after 1926 to Boise City OK (Boise City Terminal N36 42' 58.8", W 102 30' 41.6" after Cimmarron/Colmor Cutoff got serious, 4 Stall at Elkhart, 26 at Boise City w/ provisions to double)
Hint: Pratt Kansas had 3 Roundhouses (CRIP ATSF & A&N/WNW) at one point....busy place
Hint: Downs, KS had a MoPac 10 bay RH N 39 30' 07.5" W 98 33' 01.6" http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/d/downs.html
Hint: Horton, KS http://www.kshs.org/publicat/history/2004winter_quastler.pdf http://www.rits.org/www/structures/Heidi/HORTON.JPG
Hint: Herrington, KS http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,1572908
Diningcar probably knows of several more......
Thanks, Mudchicken: I found evidence of a Roundhouse and/or Turntable in 6 of those cities, but I cannot find anything at all in the others:
Thanks Zwingle: two more in Iowa:
The list is at 499 entries now.
Whoops, make that 501.
There's a two-stall Milwaukee roundhouse at Calmar, IA. This was field-checked and extensively photographed by me last year. It stands open and empty, but it's solid.
There's also a mostly-filled turntable pit at Manilla, IA.
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