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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:57 AM

Good Wednesday morning everyone.  Well, I've gotten everything cleared away and cleaned up from last night. 

We have a temp of about 71, 72 degrees here this morning.  Also just finished pouring down rain.  Not quite cats & dogs, but pretty darn close! 

Coffee, juices and other morning beverages are fresh and ready to go.  Breakfast is on the serving station. 

Everyone have a good morning, take care and see you all later.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:21 AM

good morning

cw thanks for breakfast.sunshine and low humidity today.going to be great after I get a nap in.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:58 AM

Thunderbumpers in the area - one rumbling by just north of me right now.  Think I'll drive to the post office (I have other errands, too, so at least that's justified).

Breakfast is out of the way.  Now on to the other projects for the day.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:00 AM

.....A sunny morning here, but more important is the fact we have the windows open for the first time in weeks and weeks.  Low humidity, and back to more "normal" temps for this area.

Maybe I can get some stuff attended to now as I did not do in the high humidity.

Car went thru car wash yesterday, and attendant did some "hand work", and now just remaining is vacuum the inside and we'll have it all back in shape.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:48 PM

Menu for tonight:  Beef stroganoff w/garden salad, fresh sliced tomatoes, peas & carrots, corn and fresh from the oven made from scratch buttermilk biscuits.

  Dessert:  Also fresh out of the oven peach cobbler w/ice cream.

Was outside earlier this afternoon, and saw something I have never seen before:  a Google automobile, doing a 'scan' of streets.  Interesting looking vehicle.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:09 PM

Boy, what a different kind of day.  Humidity not an issue.  That in itself is different now for a  month and a half, at least.

Did get a bit done outside today.  More shrubs trimmed.

Tomorrow, hopefully, another mowing.  Setting on the back patio, earlier this evening, one could tell the humidity was way down {for here}, just by looking across the Fairway, and the blue sky.

Was reading a bit in the current Trains Mag. while setting on the patio and found the 2.2 % grade article of interest and something different. Some of the B&O grades listed of course happens to be just a short hop south of my home area.

It looks like the Pennsylvania R R in it's last attempt to go up and thru /over the Alleghenies made it with just a bit lower grade avg.  We understand in general, the grade avg. up from Altoona and around the Horseshoe Curve, and to the summit, works out to be a compensated grade of about 1.8 %.  Anyway, that kind of stuff of railroading is of interest to me, and enjoyed the article.  Must get to the other "Mountain RR" stuff in there.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:18 PM

....Any OTR truckers out there....And if so, did you see the TV news shot of the semi trailer...{appeared to be an aluminum open top rig, that they indicated somehow disingaged from the tractor, and somehow upended to catch a steel structure that crosses the width of the bridge and the photo showed it caught with the front sticking up on that beam.  That bridge beam is rather high.  {Not a clearance problem}.

I find it difficult how that could have happened....Even if it did come lose from the tractor...??  Anyone have any comments...?

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Posted by cherokee woman on Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:03 PM

Hmm, did everyone have trouble getting in the door this morning, like I did?  We started out this morning with a temp of 66 degrees.  At 8 a.m., we were down to 65 degrees.  In the 70s now, at 12:57 p.m. 

For the rest of the day, here is the menu:

1.  Beef stew w/cornbread and salad

2.  Beef stroganoff, salad and Italian bread

For Dessert:  Peach cobbler, chocolate cake, chocolate pie, and ice cream

Not much happening around home, just still working on getting half bath's vanity sink unclogged.  Thought we had it licked, but apparently not.  Walt has used both the plunger and the snake, and so far, still have a clogged drain/pipe/airway. 

Everyone enjoy your afternoon, especially if you're like us, and have lesser humidity and cooler temps.


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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:26 PM

afternoon

Modelcar yeah we saw that story last night.same thing has happened with trucks under the viaduct here in town.cw thanks for supper.tonight is friday.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:29 PM

Busy packing...

I can see where an empty trailer could "catch air" and fly like that.  As to how it got loose - maybe it was never actually secured in the first place, maybe something broke or got jarred.

Scattered showers around the area right now - in fact I came across a spot in the road where there was a definite line between had and hadn't.

Time to start loading the truck.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:00 PM

Quentin: The highside trailer dump issue happens  on a regular basis. Usually operator error/ failure to lock and secure the operating handle on the lift bed near the front. They not only attack bridges and wires,they also lay-over in curves after the center of gravity shifts. There is a certain Wabash (now COLT) bridge over I-70 at Columbia, MO that gets nailed (often with fatal consequences) by raised semi beds.

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:05 PM

Sir C - Ah...that answers my question!

I had another one that occurred to me while going over the N27th street bridge and looking down on the empty tracks.  Unfortunately, you didn't write it down, so I can't remember it....

But you will be happy to know that I thought of you as the first person to ask....

Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by AgentKid on Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:28 PM

Modelcar

Was reading a bit in the current Trains Mag. while setting on the patio and found the 2.2 % grade article of interest and something different.

Quentin, that is a great article. The photo on page 40 was taken by Nicholas Morant, and it is on page 199 of the book "Nichols Morant's Canadian Pacific", by J.F. Garden. The caption there states that the photo was taken at mile 128 of the Laggan Sub. The train is heading uphill and my Dad worked as 3rd trick Operator at the summit, Stephen, BC, 5.8 miles further up the line.

Dad knew Nicholas Morant to see him. He also said by the time he left, diesels were still pretty uncommon. But when I was a kid he did tell me he hooped the EMD demonstrator "F" units that came through in 1949, I think it was. There are a number of photos of those engines in the mountains. At least one of those demonstrators became a Soo Line engine that is preserved.

Well, I've got to get a few things done before I head out to supper.

Norris, it was good to hear you news. It seems things are going better than the last time you were here, and you had to hide under the table!

Bruce

 

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Posted by rvos1979 on Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:31 PM

Quentin:  I didn't read the story, but I have had a fifth wheel fail and lost the trailer pulling away from a light, luckily I caught it on my frame rails......

All I can say is it's *** hot down here in Dallas, I think they broke their record.  I tried to drag some cooler air down with me, but I think the chain broke crossing the Red River.  Running to Fort Worth in the morning, and unloading some silicon dioxide for MillerCoors (I'm guessing that this is a food additive).

Sister pulled up the carpeting in our hallway the other day, hardwood floors are still in good shape underneath.  We did find out, though, that the hardwood was torn out of the living room, and plywood placed down.  Marlene and I are thinking laminate, will talk to a flooring shop when I go home in two weeks.....

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:28 PM

rvos1979

Quentin:  I didn't read the story, but I have had a fifth wheel fail and lost the trailer pulling away from a light, luckily I caught it on my frame rails......

All I can say is it's *** hot down here in Dallas, I think they broke their record.  I tried to drag some cooler air down with me, but I think the chain broke crossing the Red River.  Running to Fort Worth in the morning, and unloading some silicon dioxide for MillerCoors (I'm guessing that this is a food additive).

Sister pulled up the carpeting in our hallway the other day, hardwood floors are still in good shape underneath.  We did find out, though, that the hardwood was torn out of the living room, and plywood placed down.  Marlene and I are thinking laminate, will talk to a flooring shop when I go home in two weeks.....

Welcome back to Texas Randy.....Enjoy your stay...be careul in this heat!  Its currently 96 at 8:27 PM here in San Antonio. 

Overnight we set a record here for highest low temperature on record...  82 degrees!

 

 

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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, August 12, 2011 6:28 AM

Good Friday morning everyone, and everybody sing along:

MusicHappy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you.  Happy Birthday, dear Tom, Happy Birthday to you!Music  Hope you have a great day today, and many, many happy returns to you!!

Coffee, juices and other morning beverages are ready, and breakfast is on the serving station. 

We're starting out with  a temp of 65 degrees this morning, going up into the mid to upper 80s today, with plenty of sunshine. 

Everyone have a good morning, Tom, enjoy your birthday, and I'll be seeing you all around noontime with a special birthday lunch for Tom and everyone else.


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Posted by Mookie on Friday, August 12, 2011 8:39 AM

Happy B-Day Tom! 

And I am going to do something in your honor that I know you would approve - I am going to go take a nap!  Thumbs Up

Long nite with lots of noise, wind and rain.  Not sure where these monsoons are coming from, but, oh well, we can always use extra water, sans rock band effects! 

Nite....

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Posted by edbenton on Friday, August 12, 2011 8:55 AM

Another thing that could have caused it also and I had it happen to me ONCE but caught it before anything bad happened to me.  Is a Failure of the PTO to fully disengage.  Heard a Snap and Ping on teh back of the the cab and saw my trailer going UP Stopped really Fast if you get my Drift since my Trailer was going Skyward.  Checked everything PTO I thought was disengaged but was not FULLy Disengaged so the pump for the Hydrdrlics was still pumping Slowly and creating Pressure.  Caused enough to snapo the catch handle of teh trailer I was hauling.  It can cause enough to raise the trailer if the driver is not paying attention. 

I will take a cup of Coffee and 2 of Orange juice called need to Kickstart teh Heart and run this Cold out of town at the same time.  I think I have found were I am going to be doing most of my Postings since the Foamers have about taken over the GeneralDiscussion area of the Forum that being HERE.  Sad isn't it that those of us that like to look at stuff have to Retreat to here to talk. 

 

 

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, August 12, 2011 8:57 AM

mudchicken

Quentin: The highside trailer dump issue happens  on a regular basis. Usually operator error/ failure to lock and secure the operating handle on the lift bed near the front. They not only attack bridges and wires,they also lay-over in curves after the center of gravity shifts. There is a certain Wabash (now COLT) bridge over I-70 at Columbia, MO that gets nailed (often with fatal consequences) by raised semi beds.

Mud Chicken...Bruce & Randy....Guess I didn't notice the trailer was a "trailer dump".....Believe that explains how it did get high enough to catch that steel structure that is positioned across the width of the bridge.  I am surprised that moving trailer {weight inertia}, didn't do more damage to that bridge structure....Meaning it's moving energy force it must have transfered into that bridge structure element.  I note it did bend that steel structure somewhat.

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, August 12, 2011 10:58 AM

Ed - I bite my lip a lot of the time and just lurk, since everything posted on the regular forum seems to either die immediately or go totally off subject.  We are pretty well protected in here and I know a lot of people sneak in here to read, but never post. 

Now when I have railroad questions - I either e-mail Mudchicken or Houston Ed or just mention something in passing in here to see if someone will comment.  We have the best of both worlds - we can railroad or just visit and eat!  Coffee 

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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, August 12, 2011 11:22 AM

Our regular fish and sides are ready for lunch, along with  Tom's special request for today:

3 Large thick crust double sausage pizzas, and have the birthday cake baked and iced:  FUDGE CAKE for everyone.

Tom and everyone enjoy your lunch, and I'll see you all later, with his birthday supper request and more fudge cake.


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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, August 12, 2011 2:53 PM

Happy B-Day Tom

Cw thanks for supper tonight.Matts taking care of our houseguest.She requires someone with alot of energy.We always spoil her and send her home.guessers say a little warmer with some rain.we'll take what we can get.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Friday, August 12, 2011 3:42 PM

Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes. It is good to have friends!! Thank you, Paula, for the fixins. That was sweet of you. It only has made it to 80 here today......

Tom

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, August 12, 2011 5:49 PM

If you're talking about the accident on I45 in Houston,, the driver just dropped a load, failed to completely disengage the PTO, and the trailer hydraulics did what they were designed to do, lifted the trailer.

Not real sure how the driver didn't feel the change in handling, but...end result was the trailer caught the overhead signage, popped the trailer off the truck.

They had I45 closed both directions for over 10 hours,  Aimee left work at 5:30pm, arrived home at 9:30 because of the traffic jam.

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Posted by switch7frg on Friday, August 12, 2011 9:04 PM

 Tom greetin's  to you . Glad you made it one more year.Happy B-Day Happy B-Day 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, August 12, 2011 10:04 PM

Arrived in MI about 9 hours after I left home.  Lots of people at Milford Memories.  I looked for people I knew, but only "scored" one.  Will be looking tomorrow.

Saw the same interesting thing twice on the way west, once in Canada and once in the US...  two locomotive hood sections, same two sections on both trucks.  Must have been EMDs headed from Illinois to London, ON.

Also saw a GO train underway east of Toronto, and a train full of MOW equipment came through Milford while I was enjoying some barbequed chicken at one of the vendors.  Later a manifest came through southbound, dynamics whining.  Most trains I've seen here in Milford in the last two or three visits.

Meanwhile, I'm pooped.  Time for bed.

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Posted by AgentKid on Friday, August 12, 2011 10:52 PM

Happy Birthday Tom. Almost a belated birthday for you in the Eastern time zone.

CW, I think I will enjoy some of Tom's Birthday Pizza and cake.

I see where CP and Parks Canada are bringing some of the best people in the world on the subject to Banff National Park for a symposium on how to keep bears off of CP's track. Ever since the advent of cylindrical grain hoppers with bottom unloading chutes, bears have wandered up on to the CPR ROW for a free meal. A very tiny bit of grain leaks out of each car on a train, and as the grain lies on the ground it ferments. So not only do the bears get a meal, they get hammered. Drunk bears put a whole new spin on the movie tittle "Bad News Bears".

The bottom line though is that all of these experts tend to admit you simply can't tell a bear where to go and how to get there! I did find out more information to add to the Government of Canada grain hopper thread, but I will have to post that later.

Everyone enjoy their Saturday and I will try to get back here tomorrow.

Bruce

 

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Posted by AgentKid on Friday, August 12, 2011 11:19 PM

This Just In.

Greyhound, whose passenger buses with their courier service, that drove the final nail into the coffin of the Combines that rode at the end of CPR and CNR branch line Mixed's in the mid sixties, has announced the discontinuation of 12 of their routes in Alberta. Bus service in Alberta will be deregulated on October 1.

The exodus of people from rural areas into the cities continues.

What goes around, comes around.

Bruce

 

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Posted by cherokee woman on Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:07 AM

Good Saturday morning everyone.  Nice, pleasant 71 degrees here in Louisville, KY this morning.  Going to be a very nice morning, although with a slight chance of seeing some showers later this morning, then some storms coming in between 8 p.m. and midnight. 

Coffee, juices and other morning beverages are fresh and ready to go.  Saturday morning brunch is on the serving station, along with some zuchinni bread I made yesterday afternoon. 

Everyone enjoy your morning, take care and I'll see you all this evening for our pizza fest.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:51 AM

AgentKid

This Just In.

Greyhound, whose passenger buses with their courier service, that drove the final nail into the coffin of the Combines that rode at the end of CPR and CNR branch line Mixed's in the mid sixties, has announced the discontinuation of 12 of their routes in Alberta. Bus service in Alberta will be deregulated on October 1.

The exodus of people from rural areas into the cities continues.

What goes around, comes around.

Bruce

 

Greyhound.....To my surprise, I passed one of the buses on I-70 west, in Ohio someplace this past Sunday on the way back to Indiana.  Hadn't thought of them for sometime as we've not seen any.  I don't know if it was an "official" Greyhound bus in service, but it certainly did have people on it and it looked completely "stock" as a Greyhound bus....??

Quentin

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