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Posted by edblysard on Monday, December 13, 2010 5:27 PM

And here we go with the wide angle lens jokes....Devil

I take some of you Geeps Zug....love 'em, they work, and work, then work some more, even broken they try.

Got to use a SD9 once...that's a smooth ride and a neat locomotive.

Asked a BN crew today about the notice, they had no clue, it had not been discussed with them by officials and they don't know a thing, the conductor said he would look it up this evening and print it off, stash the copy in his bag for me next time he come over here.

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Posted by D.Carleton on Monday, December 13, 2010 6:10 PM

Could any of this be the reason behind NS designing their own cab? http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2332239

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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:23 PM

Well, that locomotive was involved in a bad accident, so that cab may have been installed by them purely for that reason...

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Posted by D.Carleton on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:09 PM

trainboyH16-44

Well, that locomotive was involved in a bad accident, so that cab may have been installed by them purely for that reason...

There are more to come...

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Posted by Mr. Railman on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 3:55 PM

it's funny. I looked on youtube "EMD to the Rescue" and got a surplus of results. then I looked up "GE  locomotive to the rescue" and I didn't get many results. So I think there will be a lot more GE locos going haywire and EMD comming to the rescue. 

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:25 PM

Randy Stahl

 

 oltmannd:

 

OK.  

You can trade in your SD70M-2 for a vintage B23-7, with the toilet compartment vent right in front of the horn.  Chem toilet with no forced ventilation.  Rusted out cab walls.  Small windows.  Tiny, narrow cab doors that need to be slammed shut (and still leak air and noise.  85dB in run 8 interior noise (if you keep the windows shut).  Two forced air heaters w/o ducting - that have "hi" and "low" setting (and maybe sidewall strip heaters, if you are lucky".  An a control stand so junked up with rattling, bent up, "add on" boxes that make you have to stand up to see the conductor  ('cause you'll never hear his snoring....)   And a carbody guaranteed to get you completely filthy if you try the engineer's side rear walkway past the radiator cab.

Did I miss anything?

 

 

 

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:11 PM

Mr. Railman

it's funny. I looked on youtube "EMD to the Rescue" and got a surplus of results. then I looked up "GE  locomotive to the rescue" and I didn't get many results. So I think there will be a lot more GE locos going haywire and EMD comming to the rescue. 

 

I've had plenty of EMDs crap out on me.  Railfans just seem to prefer EMD over GE for some reason, so that skews the videos...

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:45 AM

EJE818

They are ok to lead on NS, CSX, UP, etc. The only railroad with the ban on the pre-iso cab ACes leading is BNSF. The rest of the class one railroads are unaffected.

CN 8005 and 8018 (SD70M-2) have both been spotted leading in the last week...on CN.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:17 AM

zugmann

 

We have Rubbermaid coolers for ice and water.  I like them because they can't really break like a refrigerator can.  And you can easily clean them out when needed, letting them dry out in the sun.

I've seen them on some engines that have been on run-thru trains.  I've also wondered if all of them that come out get back home.  I've even seen some just like them in the crew lounges at a couple of our away from home motels.Whistling

I'm not sure, but I think the beverages found in the motel coolers may not be the same kind that Zug would find on the engine.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:46 AM

Laugh x 3 !

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Posted by enr2099 on Friday, December 17, 2010 3:38 PM

CNW 6000

 

 

CN 8005 and 8018 (SD70M-2) have both been spotted leading in the last week...on CN.

 

As stated, this restriction doesn't apply ON CN. This restriction applies on BNSF to the early batches of SD70ACe/M-2. CN 8800-8849 are also non-isolated cabs but don't have nearly the same noise and vibration issues of the 8000's.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, December 17, 2010 6:29 PM

Yeah I know that Tyler... posted that to confirm (for lack of a better word) as a current example, that CN's still running them.

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Posted by BNSF_Conductor11 on Friday, December 17, 2010 7:13 PM

edblysard

Three, they came in on a ferterlizer train for Mosaic....they load up and kick pretty good, but stop like a garbage truck...I like the 70M better, it kicks great and stops great.

We took the train out to Mosaic and spotted the plant with them, my engineer did not like how they shoved against a minimum brake set, he said he could not tell when the slack was all bunched in, and they didnt seem to set their independent brakes up as a trio, but each one by itself instead.

We took them back to north yard and stayed on them to finish our switching...they ride ok, but  overall just dont seem to be the quality I expect from EMD.

 

So, Coborn, how many?

And besides the modelers club, / Historical group, what railroad do you work for?

Is it a Class 1, Class 2 or a Class 3?

And lastly, where did you get your information?

Was it a safety bulletin, general order, terminal order, what?

Because I have never known any Class 1 to give a hoot in a holler about the cormfort or ride quality for road crews...as long as the toiliet flushes, the heater sorta works and the lights all come on they could care less how it rides. 

 

 coborn35:

 

 

 edblysard:

And you got this information from what reliable source?

How many SD70ACEs have you ridden in?

 

 

How many have you ridden in Ed?

 

 

 

I work for BNSF and this is an actual general order that was recently released.

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:48 AM

Can you post a copy of the entire order?

Would be great if you could.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:42 AM

The thing that gets me is why BNSF has issued such a order and to my limited knowledge none of the other Class I's have.  Normally all the Class I's follow each others lead very closely.

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