The Official Eleanor Roosevelt (And Anything Else Non-Topical) Thread

[al-in-chgo]

Murray

 Hope everyone is having a nice "Eleanor Roosevelt" Friday!!!!

 

 

"My Day" was fine, Murray. 

Speaking of ethanol, they say FDR mixed a mean martini.  What we would call "Happy Hour," he called "The Children's Hour" (ironically used, but there is a poem that uses the phrase).

Of course, years after Franklin's death Eleanor had Good Luck to contend with (note capitalization).      -  al

 

 

[Anonymous]

 Hope everyone is having a nice "Eleanor Roosevelt" Friday!!!!

 

 

[Victrola1]

Throw Eleanor from the train. Who dunit?

Fala barks innocence.

 

 

 

[BNSFwatcher]

Aha!  Finally I understand why my father was a Democrat in the '30s and '40s!:  repeal of prohibition!

Hays

[BNSFwatcher]

Anna Eleanor decoy?  Could have been Madeline Albright or Helen Thomas.  Nancy ain't old enough.

Hays

[Deggesty]

Victrola1

How did the Women's Christian Temperance Union take Mr. Eleanor derailing their train of reform? Did shipment of fuel for the human internal combustion engine help railroads recover from the depression? 

 

Perhaps they simply slowed down on their buttermilk consumption--buttermilk had ethanol in it. A great-aunt of mine belonged to the W.C.T.U., and she loved her buttermilk.

[Victrola1]

How did the Women's Christian Temperance Union take Mr. Eleanor derailing their train of reform? Did shipment of fuel for the human internal combustion engine help railroads recover from the depression? 

 

[Convicted One]

Well, one could easily tell from his sponsorship of the 21st amendment that papa Rooseveldt was a big ethanol supporter.

[Victrola1]

The Man Who Never Was. 

http://www.themanwhoneverwas.com/

Was there ever a decoy Eleanor Roosevelt?

[Deggesty]

tree68

Like the plywood tanks used a decoys in Britain before D-Day, it certainly wouldn't have stood up to close scrutiny, but would have done a decent job throwing off someone looking to bomb an aircraft factory from on high.

At the beginning of WWII, the Germans had some airfields that had only wooden airplanes on them. The British dropped wooden bombs on them.

[Murphy Siding]

tree68

Phoebe Vet

I have never seen an airplane factory that is not on an airport.  How do they fly the finished product away?

I suppose it could have been an aircraft PARTS factory.  It would make sense if we were being bombed during the war, but our military did a pretty good job of keeping the fighting off shore.

I am not saying it's not true, just that I never heard it.

Here you go: http://thinkorthwim.com/2007/08/19/1034/

trompe l’oeil  !!  I'm sure Eleanor would have approved.

[nanaimo73]

http://www.japaneseballoonbombs.com/

[BNSFwatcher]

When was the "Oreo" invented/branded?  I'll have to 'Google' that.  'Wiki' must have an extensive data-base.  Here, in Montana, we have Bighorn sheep (that look like goats) and Rocky Mountain goats (that look like sheep).  I have never heard of anyone milking them.  They tend to stay in the really high country.  Other than that, I'm not a big fan of Feta cheese....

I did Google "Oreo".  Invented in 1912.  There will be a centennial celebration in Hyde Park the summer of 2012.  Anna Eleanor will be the hostess.  Moose milk will be featured.

Hays

[BNSFwatcher]

I don't think they covered the runways.  The camo netting would have fouled the props, no?  Hey!  This is southern California:  "Any shade is good shade!".  Of course, that was before Californians got hooked on frijoles, and before the invention of "Beano".  My next-to-last ride on a commercial airliner was in a L-1011 "Death Tube".  The rear engine caught on fire in DFW.  That was in 1979, and I have been an "Amtrak-totaler" ever since.  Of course, I flew a lot as a UH-1 ("Huey") crewchief, and even on some "Gooney Birds" (C-130s) after that, but NO commercial!  They still miss Minneapolis!  As far as the Imperial JAF goes, they did start some forest fires in OR or WA, methinks.  Maybe this is where Anna Eleanor's XP-747 was built, mostly out of plywood.  Howard Hughes would have extracted an exorbitant number of pieces-of-silver for that, but FDR ran the mint!  Anyone up for stealing a backhoe and doing some excavating in Hyde Park? 

Hays

[Phoebe Vet]

Very interesting.  I see it WAS on an airport.  Did they cover the airport, too?  I wonder how they dealt with ventilation.

We will never know how effective it was since the Japanese never came to the mainland.

I wonder if those guys are available to work on my layout.

[tree68]

Phoebe Vet

I have never seen an airplane factory that is not on an airport.  How do they fly the finished product away?

I suppose it could have been an aircraft PARTS factory.  It would make sense if we were being bombed during the war, but our military did a pretty good job of keeping the fighting off shore.

I am not saying it's not true, just that I never heard it.

Here you go: http://thinkorthwim.com/2007/08/19/1034/

[blownout cylinder]

Murray

And a very happy Eleanor Roosevelt Sunday morning to you all.......

 Sorry. I could not resist changing it to Sunday Morning

 

[Phoebe Vet]

I have never seen an airplane factory that is not on an airport.  How do they fly the finished product away?

I suppose it could have been an aircraft PARTS factory.  It would make sense if we were being bombed during the war, but our military did a pretty good job of keeping the fighting off shore.

I am not saying it's not true, just that I never heard it.

[tree68]

Murphy Siding

Not an airport, an aircraft factory.  It was, I think either Consolidated, or Lockheed, that had a camoflauged factory in the LA/Long Beach area.

Can't remember the specifics, but I do recall seeing  a picture of it.  More than just a tarp - it was a 3-D depiction of a built-up area.  Like the plywood tanks used a decoys in Britain before D-Day, it certainly wouldn't have stood up to close scrutiny, but would have done a decent job throwing off someone looking to bomb an aircraft factory from on high.

I don't think they included Eleanor's house, though.

[Murphy Siding]

Phoebe Vet

I never heard the tarp story, but it would take a really big one to hide an airport.

I think that tarp thing was a Cheech and Chong movie.

  Not an airport, an aircraft factory.  It was, I think either Consolidated, or Lockheed, that had a camoflauged factory in the LA/Long Beach area.

[Phoebe Vet]

Al:

Martin isn't gone.  It's now Lockheed Martin.

I never heard the tarp story, but it would take a really big one to hide an airport.

I think that tarp thing was a Cheech and Chong movie.

[al-in-chgo]

Phoebe Vet

That's probably it.  The Boeing 747 was probably designed by the Lockheed Skunk Works.

ROFL

Wait a sec, Phoebes.  Wasn't the Lockheed plant covered up with an enormous tarpaulin that looked from the air like ordinary suburbia?  Or am I confusing it with some dear departed aircraft firm like Martin??  Dueling myths!  (Bearing in mind sometimes myths are right on.  Not that often, though.) 

I really don't know what E.Roosevelt would have thought of all this.  -  al s. 

 

But she had a distinct preference in margarine!   -  al

 

 

[Phoebe Vet]

That's probably it.  The Boeing 747 was probably designed by the Lockheed Skunk Works.

ROFL

[Victrola1]

Concerning the GN color scheme change, what color is goat's milk? If Guernsey cows give a milk yellow with butter fat, what about goats? As the passenger business lost money, did the blueish white hue of skim milk become symbolic of fat cut out and lean leaving?

If riding the Empire Builder, did Eleanor eat her Oreos with goats' milk? 

[BNSFwatcher]

Nope.  It was the XP-747.  They must have outfitted it at the "Skunk Works".  I flew home, on Xmas leave, SFO-IDL-SFO in 1959-'60, "AA" Boeing 707s both ways.  Anna Eleanor wouldn't have fit in a 707.  Like I said, it had no USAF markings....

Hays

[Anonymous]

And a very happy Eleanor Roosevelt Saturday morning to you all.......

[Phoebe Vet]

BNSFwatcher

Update:  forget the metal detector and tape measure.  My nephew, who lives nearby, told me that the vertical stabilzer of the empennage sticks up, about 4'-0" out of the ground.  It is engraved "Boeing XP-747" and "Anna Eleanor Roosevelt, 18??-1962" on both sides.  No USAF tail number....

Hays

The first flight of the Boeing 747 was February 9, 1969.  Mrs. Roosevelt had been dead for 7 years at that time.  Your fable would work better if you made it a Boeing 707.  That's what they were using for Air Force One at the time.

[BNSFwatcher]

Update:  forget the metal detector and tape measure.  My nephew, who lives nearby, told me that the vertical stabilzer of the empennage sticks up, about 4'-0" out of the ground.  It is engraved "Boeing XP-747" and "Anna Eleanor Roosevelt, 18??-1962" on both sides.  No USAF tail number....

Hays

[Victrola1]

"LANSING, Mich., Tuesday—We had a very pleasant trip yesterday afternoon. Much to our surprise, we were met in St. Louis by Mr. T. M. Hayes of the Wabash Railroad. It turned out that he had been with Mr. Frederic Delano for ten years, that the latter was president of the Wabash and for several years thereafter. We were his guests on the trip to Decatur, Illinois, where he was born and raised, and then back to Chicago. He made it a very pleasant journey. It is always interesting to travel with some one who is very enthusiastic about his job, and the Wabash Railroad is quite evidently one of the main interests in Mr. Hayes' life. His father was with the railroad for 57 years, and he has already 37 years of service behind him."  Eleanor Roosevelt, March 13, 1940

Eleanor has revealed through a love letter, her heart belongs to Decatur. The Wabash is her true love. Others vying for travelers' affection in the Chicago to St. Louis market are jilted. 

There is an uproar. Franklin grins amused clinching his cigarette holder at an even higher angle.

The Alton, The Illinois Central, the C. E. & I. oh how they cry. Who among the rejected suitors takes it hardest? 

 

 

 

[wanswheel]

And now...the end is near...and may I say...not in a sly way...she's looking

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