Why was everybody Kung Fu fightin' ?(They was fast as lightnin'. Now you have that song stuck in your head. )
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Deggesty al-in-chgoWhen did GN's EMPIRE BUILDER go from its post-WWII livery to the distinctive "Blue Sky" coloration? Al, 1967 http://www.gngoat.org/1968_builder.htm.
al-in-chgoWhen did GN's EMPIRE BUILDER go from its post-WWII livery to the distinctive "Blue Sky" coloration?
Al, 1967 http://www.gngoat.org/1968_builder.htm.
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I wish I could help you, but dunno, me! I was brought up "out east", in the land of the majestic New York Central "Lightning Stripes" and the sedate New Haven green-and-gold. I even liked the McGinnes flamboyant colors the New Haven adopted! I moved to Montana 'bout 15-years ago and never saw the "Big Sky Blue", except on freight cars. Never liked it, I must say, and the Burlington Northern "Cascade Green" was plain ugly. When BNSF had the Dash 9-44CWs delivered in the old Great Northern orange-and-green replica, I was ecstatic! Loved them "Pumpkins", and still do, even though a lot of SD40-2s and GP38s, and their progeny, wear the colors, too. The "Heritage II" and "III" schemes leave a lot to be desired, methinks. I hope someone comes up with a "standard reference" cite for all the color changes up here. I'm a buyer of books, so don't get into the video stuff at all. BTW, check out the www.izaakwaltoninn.com website. They have a replica SDP-45 (?) for rent in their Essex, MT motel complex. Beware the b'ars! Them critters bite!!!
Hays -- Shelby, MT
I have a question I've been nursing for years but it doesn't fit the definition of "Classic" for the ongoing quizzes at the "Classic Trains" forum:
When did GN's EMPIRE BUILDER go from its post-WWII livery to the distinctive "Blue Sky" coloration? And did that precisely coincide with the train's switch from EMD-type "carbody" HEP to the more modern (and at that time, in the public's eye, "freightlike") locomotives I've seen in their publicity?
The end of that time frame would be the imposition of Amtrak on May 1, 1971, or shortly thereafter, when the train kept its name but the cars went "rainbow" with a vengeance. But I'm wondering how long the Blue Sky color-scheme was in effect prior to that. Also, was it part and parcel of the same color-scheme applied to GN's freight cars, or were they implemented at different times?? If you have anything to say about whether the coaches and other cars were repainted, refurbished or renewed in significant ways, I'd enjoy hearing about that too. And does anybody know who the designer was? I personally think it's a very good color.
With her legendary attention to detail, I'm sure that Eleanor Roosevelt, had she lived longer, by not less than five but not more than ten years, would have known.
al-in-chgo
Sorry! Eleanor is buried at Hyde Park, NY in the prototype Boeing 747, per her request. Visit, sometime, and bring your metal detector and a tape measure. Look for small trees in the outline of an airplane. I won't touch the 'reincarnation' thingie....
Hays
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BULL MOOSE PARTY 2012!
Murphy SidingJust a note......Let's not let this turn into a political thread, or GASP! A serious thread !!!
We don't want this thread to go off the rails?
Other than NYC and DC, did any other cities have center conduit power pick-up tracks? I guess I'll have to call them "streetcars", ILO "trolleys", for the time being. Can't remember anyone saying "streetcar" in NYC, even though there was no trolley wire or pole on most of them, but that don't mean much. Most of the denizens still say "Grand Central Station"! No one says "fire hydrant": "Johnny pump" is the terminology. Even Eleanor said that! Was there a streetcar/trolley over the Willis Avenue Bridge? That was always my favorite way to sneak out of Manhattan and avoid tolls! Used the Third Ave. Bridge coming into town. Anything to save a quarter, or whatever.... Wasn't the X-town 42d Street line the "X" car? Fun times, again!
What did the Gummint do with all the critters? This, when thousands of Americans were starving? Sounds like the butter buy-out of later on...warehouses full of the stuff! Well, it is not recommended that you eat cotton, but... Guess I'll have to read the cite, when I'm in a good mood.
Murphy SidingMurray OK Kids...with the blessing of the moderators here, we have our very own thread about nothing. Think of it as the "Seinfeld" of threads. Please keep it clean....humorous....and even rail-related if you can. Have fun! Just a note......Let's not let this turn into a political thread, or GASP! A serious thread !!!
Murray OK Kids...with the blessing of the moderators here, we have our very own thread about nothing. Think of it as the "Seinfeld" of threads. Please keep it clean....humorous....and even rail-related if you can. Have fun!
OK Kids...with the blessing of the moderators here, we have our very own thread about nothing.
Think of it as the "Seinfeld" of threads.
Please keep it clean....humorous....and even rail-related if you can.
Have fun!
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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"Eleanor Roosevelt, indeed, in a syndicated newspaper column of September19, 1945, wrote: “We have reached a point today where labor-saving devices are good only when they do not throw the worker out of his job.”
Did Eleanor prefer steam to diesel?
Convicted One I see from the latest news that those here who were insisting that the Ethanol scam would not affect meat prices due to the increased demand and prices for feed grains, were talking into their hats (again)
I see from the latest news that those here who were insisting that the Ethanol scam would not affect meat prices due to the increased demand and prices for feed grains, were talking into their hats (again)
"So, in the late spring of 1933, the federal government carried out "emergency livestock reductions." In Nebraska, the government bought about 470,000 cattle and 438,000 pigs. Nationwide, six million hogs were purchased from desperate farmers. In the South, one million farmers were paid to plow under 10.4 million acres of cotton"
The relevancy of Eleanor Roosevelt never ceases to amaze.
Hey, thanks for the Bill Robinson funeral photos. Any photos of either NY or DC that show streetcar conduit track is much appreciated. Even without the streetcars.
The track on 125th Street was used by the 125th Street crosstown, the Third and Amsterdam, and the Kingsbridge-Broadway-Amsterdam-125th line. Earlier, before the photo, by the Willis Avenue line in addition. Rode those tracks often
Times square tracks by the Broadway-42nd Street "B" line.
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Had a few minutes on my personal computer which has the math (simple arithmatic) program and found the correct answer to be 6 hours and 51.42 minutes.
Of course we have been assuming the trains run at constant speed. Otherwise things get more complicated and a complex computer program would be required. Like those some railroads have to assist in dispatching.
Perhaps if tobacco farmers grew the corn for the ethanol...
Dave
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How many P-40's would fit a standard flat car in 1942? Would Eleanor's train take the siding to expedite vital supplies to the front?
Speaking of monkeys....... Did the makers of the Wizard of Oz intentionally make those creepy winged mokeys to look like Stukas diving on Polish refugees?
Had Franklin lived longer, would Eleanor have nationalized America's railroads in his 5th term?
Phoebe VetEleanor Roosevelt died in 1962. She never even SAW a Boeing 747.
BNSFwatcher Eleanor was a Democrat, and, as such, she always took her personal (read: United States Air Force Boeing 747) aircraft. If she ever would have had to take the train, it would, naturally, have been the Broad Way Limited. The New York Central never serviced Washington, DC and the management was a bunch of capitalist Republicans. Hays
Eleanor was a Democrat, and, as such, she always took her personal (read: United States Air Force Boeing 747) aircraft. If she ever would have had to take the train, it would, naturally, have been the Broad Way Limited. The New York Central never serviced Washington, DC and the management was a bunch of capitalist Republicans.
Eleanor Roosevelt died in 1962. She never even SAW a Boeing 747.
At about 6 hours and approx 50 minutes. Did not figure it to the last decimal point, but here is the algebra:
Total distance is 12 hours times speed of Elanore and 16 times speed of Lucy
D = 12SE = 16SL SE is Elanore's speed, and SL is Lucy's speed. In miles per hour
So SL = 3/4SE or 0.75SE
The meeting point is DL = HSE = D-HSL where H is the time (hours)
So D = HSE + HSL = H1.75SE
So 1.75HSE = 12SE
So H = 12/1.75 = 6.86 hours, approx 6 hours and 50 minutes
Not sure the distance but to make it easy, say 768 miles in 12 hours at 64 MPH and in 16 hours at 48 MPH. If Eleanor's train left Washington at 11 P.M. Central Time and Lucy's train left Chicago at 1 A.M. Eastern Time, I think they passed around 6:45 to 7 A.M. Eastern Time.
Victrola1 At midnight Eleanor's train left Washington bound for Chicago, and Lucy's train left Chicago bound for Washington, both traveling at constant speeds on adjacent tracks. Eleanor's train took 12 hours to complete the trip, and Lucy's train took 16 hours to complete the trip. At what time did Eleanor and Lucy pass each other??
OMG I just flashed back to high school.
One thing CAN be determined:
If the trip takes somewhere between 12 and 16 hours, then it MUST be Amtrak.
That's the greatest thing to help win the war since synthetic rubber. Eleanor will personally present your "E" award.
Check out the latest "Trains News Wire". They are going to power the Heartland Express with a 20% mixture of rendered beef tallow and 80% Diesel. A revolution in "MOO-tive Power", methinks. Aargh! Sorry about that.
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