Okay. I'll stick with western Indiana.
Along the western edge of Gary is a major north-south highway, Indiana route 912, also known as Cline Avenue. Draw a line along that road, from Lake Michigan on the north through Griffith on the south, and you'd cross a good many railroads' main lines. Let's go back to 1964--before a major merger--to get the full effect: name the railroads, from north to south. I'll give you the ones at the ends: EJ&E and EJ&E.
Another hint: when Cline Avenue goes through the heart of Griffith, it is west of the famous crossing at Broad Street.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
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CShaveRR I think this was the Chicago, Attica & Southern, but I can't tell you (without looking it up, which is still against the rules) what it was previously called. Something to do with the C&EI?
I think this was the Chicago, Attica & Southern, but I can't tell you (without looking it up, which is still against the rules) what it was previously called. Something to do with the C&EI?
Absolutely right Carl it was the CA&S which had formerly been the Chicago & Indiana Coal Railway, The C&IC ran north-south in western Indiana from Lacrosse to Brazil with a connection to the C&EI at Momence, Illinois. It was controlled and operated by the C&EI from 1894 to 1922. When the C&EI emerged from bankruptcy and was reorganized in 1922 the C&IC was spun off and became the CA&S. Its principal traffic was coal from mines in southern Indiana and as this dwindled down the CA&S itself entered bankruptcy in 1931 from which it never emerged. A modest upturn in traffic during WW2 enabled it to linger on until it was completely abandoned in 1946.
Your turn to ask the next question.
Mark
Yow, lots of things went belly up in 1946....
Virgina & TruckeeMissouri & Arkansas RailroadOklahoma RailwayUtah Idaho CentralCassville and Exeter Railroad - that was the SHORTEST
I don't think ANY of these would even come close to being the larges abandonment.
When It was completely abandoned in 1946 this railroad became the largest single abandonment in US history up to that time. What was the name of this road at the time it was abandoned and what was its name prior to an earlier reorganization?
Texas ZepherKCSfan - you responded first. Your turn.
Too late for my hunch that the city would be found on a D&RGW map.
1st Salida roundhouse
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Narrow gauge turntable
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Standard gauge turntable
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Narrow gauge 2-8-2 and standard gauge 2-8-0
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Narrow gauge 2-8-2 and standard gauge 4-8-4
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Barrel Transfer: n
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Diesel trains at Salida, both The Royal Gorge
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Texas ZepherWhat City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger. This town also housed the railroad R&D facilities.
KCSfan - you responded first. Your turn.
The city also was the home for the railroad's R&D facilities/laboratory.
Well crumb. I didn't think it would be so common.... I am certain all of the answers are correct, but not the one I was thinking of. Don't know if I should switch questions or narrow it.
The city I am thinking of is less than 10,000 population, and is not a suburb of a major metropolitan area.
From prior post: "Of course the IC's main locomotive shops were in Paducah, KY."
Okay, but what about Centralia, Illinois? - al
KCSfan Texas Zepher Keeping with the theme of shops. And I hope there is only one instance of this .... What City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger. The Illinois Central had two roundhouses and shops in Chicago. Passenger engines were serviced at the 23rd St. facility (about 1-1/2 miles south of Cenral Station) and freight locomotives were serviced at Markham Yard (the roundhouse was actually in E. Hazlecrest, a suburb of Chicago). Of course the IC's main locomotive shops were in Paducah, KY. Mark
Texas Zepher Keeping with the theme of shops. And I hope there is only one instance of this .... What City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger.
Keeping with the theme of shops. And I hope there is only one instance of this ....
What City was home to two railroad shops which were owned by the same railroad? Both the shops are locomotive shops (two round houses, machine shops, etc.) though not necessarily considered the primary shops for this particular railroad. This was not the result of a merger.
The Illinois Central had two roundhouses and shops in Chicago. Passenger engines were serviced at the 23rd St. facility (about 1-1/2 miles south of Cenral Station) and freight locomotives were serviced at Markham Yard (the roundhouse was actually in E. Hazlecrest, a suburb of Chicago). Of course the IC's main locomotive shops were in Paducah, KY.
Altoona qualifies. There was the East Altoona shops. Complete roundhouse for running repairs and servicing. Not part of the Juniata Works which included the locomotive back shop, car shops, passenger shops, paint, test, etc.
Collinwood also qualifies the same way. Independently managed backshop accross the tracks and down the road a bit from the running repair and electric shops. I am sure there are others.
You have to mean within physical city limits. If metro area is allowed then there many more.
Did you mean two running repair shops in the same city?
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Texas Zepher oltmanndColonie was not in Schenectady. The shop was on the old main that ran down the Hudson from Medhanicville. Anybody want to take a stab at it? A military guy would know this one...I believe you are looking for Watervliet. But what I don't understand is why all the news paper articles about the fire in March 2004 call it Colonie. It was also the Colonie Police and Fire units that responded to the call.
oltmanndColonie was not in Schenectady. The shop was on the old main that ran down the Hudson from Medhanicville. Anybody want to take a stab at it? A military guy would know this one...
It was definitely Watervliet. The shops were just SW of the Arsenal, about a half dozen blocks from the Hudson. You can still see the shop floors on Google Maps, the buildings are gone. Definitely NOT Colonie which was much further to the southwest, between Albany and Schenectady, just west of I-87.
You're up!
Sayre was the LV backshop - correct! Don't know if GE Railcar is still there or not, either...
Colonie was not in Schenectady. The shop was on the old main that ran down the Hudson from Medhanicville. Anybody want to take a stab at it? A military guy would know this one...
Collinwood Shop were in metro Cleveland, actually in Collinwood, OH. Totally levelled in the 1990s. (though the running repair shop is still there) Close enough!
The Colonie shops were in Schenectady. Wasn't the building damaged or destroyed by fire?
Weren't LV's shops in Sayre, Pennsylvania? I think they were taken over by North American Car for a while (whether GE Rail Services is still there I don't know). Or was Sayre the car shop and Binghamton, New York, the locomotive backshop?
PC's other shop was Collinwood, in Cleveland, Ohio.
Union Tank Car (UTLX) was using Erie's Marion, OH yard as a car repair/storage facility. Not sure if they are using any of the shops buildings.
D&H - Colonie shops in ____, NY (not Oneonta) The other big industry in this town makes (or at least made) big guns for the military. Currently leveled, I think.
LV - no
EL- Correct! Marion was ex-Erie, Scranton was DL&W and is now Steamtown. Conrail used it for some minor work for a few years before closing it. Marion was not used by Conrail - not sure if the structures are even there anymore.
PC - Juniata Locomotive Shop in Altoona currently NS's one and only backshop - correct! Beach Grove may have still been doing some minor backshop work in 1970, but the other main backshop was ______ Shops in __________, __. (think Water Level Route)
RDG - Reading, PA - Correct! This was Conrail's caboose shop and business car shop for many years. Not sure if many of buildings are still standing
LV - Huntington shops in Easton PA
EL - Marion OH - Scranton PA - currently Steam Town
PC - Juniata/Altoona PA - currently used by NS - Beech Grove - currently used by Amtrak
RDG - Reading PA
A quickie. Locomotive backshops.
What city/town were the backshops for the following RRs: (circa 1970)
D&H (don't be fooled by the name of the shops)
LV
EL (there were two)
PC (there were two)
RDG
extra credit if you can give the current disposition
Murphy Siding Cabbage cars?
Since Oltmannd guessed mixed trains instead of branch line. I'm giving the win to Murphy Siding, so take it away Murphy Siding.
Cabbage cars?
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Accommodations?
Texas Zepher oltmanndCShaveRRDrovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.I was thinking mixed trains, Drover's caboose is getting closer but I believe they are still officially classified as caboose. Oltmannd is thinking CORRECT. The red colored passenger cars were for BRANCH LINE service and used on mixed trains. The took the place of coach, caboose, and baggage and they were called ___________.
oltmanndCShaveRRDrovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.I was thinking mixed trains,
CShaveRRDrovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.
Ummm, combinations? - a.s.
CShaveRR Thanks for the latest hint. Drovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.
Thanks for the latest hint. Drovers' cabooses, for hauling the cowboys whose cattle was being shipped on that particular train.
Oooh. That sounds good! I was thinking mixed trains, but that's perfect. In fact, if that's not the answer, it should be. How about "cowboy caboose" or "cowboy crummy" for a nickname?
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