Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
Yeah!
Hmmm.....what will my question be?
What year was Union Pacific forced to divest SP because of monopoly concerns?
That's correct (and it's an answer not many know, so good on ya). It was never much of a through route; the SP had no intention of sharing traffic with the Santa Fe, and kept right on building past Deming to El Paso to meet itself coming west, and the Santa Fe soon gave up and acquired the A&P franchise to build its own line to the Pacific Coast.
Deming was then in New Mexico Territory; New Mexico achieved statehood in 1912. Arizona Territory was split off in 1863.
RWM
I beleive it was Deming in what is now New Mexico, on March 8, 1881. Wasn't it between the Southern Pacific Railroad and Santa Fe?
Just a guess, maybe the one I'm thinking about was the third. Am I right?
Railway Man wrote: Other than subway tunnels (and stopping at the Atlantic Seaboard) it would be the Hoosac, 4.75 miles, constructed 1851-75 with a few pauses.RWMI guess I should contribute another? Let's try this:Every school boy in my day knew where the two halves of the first transcontinental railroad met. What's not so well known is where and when the second sets of rails building from east to west, and west to east, came to a joint. Name the location, the date, and the railroad(s) involved.
Other than subway tunnels (and stopping at the Atlantic Seaboard) it would be the Hoosac, 4.75 miles, constructed 1851-75 with a few pauses.
I guess I should contribute another? Let's try this:
Every school boy in my day knew where the two halves of the first transcontinental railroad met. What's not so well known is where and when the second sets of rails building from east to west, and west to east, came to a joint. Name the location, the date, and the railroad(s) involved.
Absolutely correct about the Hoosac. Another interesting bit of its history was that 196 men were killed in constructing it. If OSHA were around then it would never have been built.
Mark
Since Stix didn't post a question I'll take the liberty of asking one in his place.
What's the longest railroad tunnel east of the Mississippi, what's its length and when was it built?
I guess I actually asked 3 questions.
wjstix wrote: The CNW "Alco line" across southern Minnesota, now a part of the DM&E / Mayo controversy?? I'd have to dig out my "Chicago & NorthWestern in Minnesota" book at home to remember which CNW/CStPM&O predescesor built the line though....only one I can think of now is the Winona and St.Peter.
The CNW "Alco line" across southern Minnesota, now a part of the DM&E / Mayo controversy?? I'd have to dig out my "Chicago & NorthWestern in Minnesota" book at home to remember which CNW/CStPM&O predescesor built the line though....only one I can think of now is the Winona and St.Peter.
Ding! Yep, the very DM&E line. He began working for the C&NW when they started expanding westward from MN in 1879. He spent the majority of his time building/working the stretch between DeSmet, SD, where his family lived at this time, and the end of track at Pierre. You're up!
Murphy Siding wrote: Chicago, Milwaukee & Omaha (The Omaha Road)?
Nope! Hint: The line he surveyed/helped build has been the subject of recent topics here.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
KCSfan wrote: This is just a guess but was it by way of the Rock Island which built the first bridge across the Mississippi River at Davenport in 1856?Mark
This is just a guess but was it by way of the Rock Island which built the first bridge across the Mississippi River at Davenport in 1856?
Maybe my question was a little too obscure. I'll go ahead and answer it and ask a different question. The Milwaukee purchased the Davenport & Northwesternin the 1870's and operated as a subsidiary until being completely absorbed later. The only part of this line remaining runs from downtown Davenport, where it is in use by IC&E to East Davenport, turning north to Eldridge where it ends. The first line was built from Davenport to DeWitt in 1870. In 1871 another line was built from Eldrige to the Northwest, ultimately ending at Jackson Jct. on the now Sheldon line.
The CM&StP did reach East Moline in 1866, however. The DRI Line from East Davenport to Clinton wasn't completed until 1900. The Crescent Bridge connecting RI to Davenport wasn't completed until 1899.
My alternate question was going to be: "How did the Milwaukee originally enter St. Paul?" But then I thought that might not be too different from the other question on the obscurity scale. (The answer to that one was: via Madison, Prairie du Chien, Marquette, Cresco, Austin..)
So I'll ask another question.
Um... Fun question: Remember "Little House on the Prairie"? Charles Ingalls was portrayed as a farmer, when he was in reality a railroad builder.
What railroad employed him, and which line did he work?
wjstix wrote: deepspire wrote: MP173 wrote: ding, ding ding ding ding, we have a winner, in Albert Lea, You are up. ed How and when did the Milwaukee Road originally enter Davenport, IA?Was it the "DRI" line, Davenport & Rock Island??
deepspire wrote: MP173 wrote: ding, ding ding ding ding, we have a winner, in Albert Lea, You are up. ed How and when did the Milwaukee Road originally enter Davenport, IA?
MP173 wrote: ding, ding ding ding ding, we have a winner, in Albert Lea, You are up. ed
ding, ding ding ding ding, we have a winner, in Albert Lea,
You are up.
ed
How and when did the Milwaukee Road originally enter Davenport, IA?
Was it the "DRI" line, Davenport & Rock Island??
Hint: It was nearly 30 years before the DRI Line.
MP173 wrote: Thanks for the handoff Carl...I am a bit surprized I got it.Here goes...Illinois Central's northern most point of freight service.ed
Thanks for the handoff Carl...I am a bit surprized I got it.
Here goes...
Illinois Central's northern most point of freight service.
Albert Lea, MN
No idea, just a guess: Waterloo, IA?
Ed, I searched the Forum using keywords "Chicago" and "1852" for the answer. My guess for the two railroads would have been wrong, but you're on the money!
Your question, sir!
How about the Michigan Central, which hooked up with the Illinois Central?
Sorry. Staying in Chicago.
What was the first eastern railroad to enter Chicago, also which Chicago road did it join with to get into downtown?
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CShaveRR wrote:I'm sorry--I was supposed to ask the next question!In Chicago, there's a police district known as the Grand Crossing District. How do railroads tie in with this?
I'm sorry--I was supposed to ask the next question!
In Chicago, there's a police district known as the Grand Crossing District. How do railroads tie in with this?
K, let me wing this. This is probably wrong just guessing. Is it the district around the Grand Central Station? Mike
bnsfkline wrote:It was actually Pennsylvania Central Railway Co.
The offical name was Pennsylvania-New York Central Transportation Company. Penn Central For short. Good answers everyone. Mike
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