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Posted by J. Daddy on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:51 PM
yep that's the locomotive, Alco built only one, the rest were built by other locomotive manufactures. The Yellowstone had the largest firebox ever produced on a steam locomotive to burn low grade coal found in Montana. To emphasize this Alco hosted dinner for 12 on its completion. The Yellowstone was the largest locomotive in the world until the UP Bigboy was produced in '41.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:00 PM

IIRC, the 2-8-8-4.  I think called the Yellowstone by the NP.

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Posted by J. Daddy on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:43 AM
you got the railroad! but not the wheel arangement...... hint: Alco made it and never produced another one. NP had different type articulates in their Z classes....
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Posted by ShopsYardMaster on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:34 PM
Northern Pacific "Z" class? Either a 2-6-6-2 or 2-8-8-2 arrangement, IIRC.

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Posted by J. Daddy on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:56 PM
 Murphy Siding wrote:

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was it a narrow gauge line, while the rest were standard gauge
That is the answer i was looking for !

     What krazykat says is true as well.  The grand scheme, apparantly, was to build a narrow gauge line from Chicago to Council Bluffs.

 

Well I like the easy ones... so here it goes "Which locomotive class premiered dinner for 12 in it's firebox and who/which railroad purchased her?

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:51 PM
That always happened to me on 'Oregon Trail'!

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Posted by Krazykat112079 on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:49 PM
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 Murphy Siding wrote:
 J. Daddy wrote:
was it a narrow gauge line, while the rest were standard gauge
That is the answer i was looking for !

     What krazykat says is true as well.  The grand scheme, apparantly, was to build a narrow gauge line from Chicago to Council Bluffs.

With wooden rails laid on the dirt?  What were they going to do when they got to the Mississippi River?

I hear they tried to ford it, but their oxen drowned. 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:44 PM
 Murphy Siding wrote:
 J. Daddy wrote:
was it a narrow gauge line, while the rest were standard gauge
That is the answer i was looking for !

     What krazykat says is true as well.  The grand scheme, apparantly, was to build a narrow gauge line from Chicago to Council Bluffs.

With wooden rails laid on the dirt?  What were they going to do when they got to the Mississippi River?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:19 PM

 J. Daddy wrote:
was it a narrow gauge line, while the rest were standard gauge
That is the answer i was looking for !

     What krazykat says is true as well.  The grand scheme, apparantly, was to build a narrow gauge line from Chicago to Council Bluffs.

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Posted by Krazykat112079 on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:20 AM

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     The first rail line abandoned in Iowa was only a bout 12 miles long.  What was unique about this line, compared to the competition?  ( I'm searching for the name of the road.  I *think* it may have been Farmers Union Railroad(?) )

Farmers Union Railroad was literally dirt poor...wooden rails placed directly on dirt...created and abandoned the same year, iirc

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Posted by J. Daddy on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:22 AM
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 17, 2007 10:31 PM
     The first rail line abandoned in Iowa was only a bout 12 miles long.  What was unique about this line, compared to the competition?  ( I'm searching for the name of the road.  I *think* it may have been Farmers Union Railroad(?) )

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Monday, December 17, 2007 7:52 PM

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     Many times, the names of foreign companies usually mean something unremarkable.  I'll guess that SJ translates to something as simple as Swedish Railways.
 

Ja!  Ja!  Ja! 

SJ = Svenska Jarnvagar  (with an umlaut over the middle "a"). 

(Swedish Railways; the "State" is implied) 

Your turn, now.   - a. s.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 17, 2007 7:32 PM
     Many times, the names of foreign companies usually mean something unremarkable.  I'll guess that SJ translates to something as simple as Swedish Railways.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:20 PM

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     Al-you're too quick for us tonight!  I figured Dale would get the answer in a flash, but hoped I could confound a few others.  I chuckle every time someone writes that BNSF or UP merging with CSX or NS could give us a *true continental* railroad, but they always overlook CN.  Well dine Al.
 

Thanks for the compliment!  I do recall, though, that "someone" told Dale to hold off Blush [:I] .  I'm really stuck for a North American question, so I'll ask the following.  It's something people will either know or not. 

In Sweden, what did (perhaps still do) the initials "SJ" stand for? 

Hint:  It has nothing to do with Jesuitry.  Big Smile [:D] 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:06 PM
     Al-you're too quick for us tonight!  I figured Dale would get the answer in a flash, but hoped I could confound a few others.  I chuckle every time someone writes that BNSF or UP merging with CSX or NS could give us a *true continental* railroad, but they always overlook CN.  Well dine Al.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:54 PM
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     What railroad came the closest to becoming a true transcontinental railroad?  I'm looking for the railroad that had the most route miles extending between the Atlantic and Pacific ocean,on a trancontinental basis. (Clue: It could be an eastern or western railroad, as long as it was part of a transcontinental route.) To clarify, this is a North American railroad, so the one in Panama doesn't count.

note to Dale:  Hold back a bit.Wink [;)]

 

Easy:  Taggart Transcontinental.  (Whoops!  Just  Wink [;)]  kidding.)  Since you excluded Central America but didn't restrict "North America" to just the USA, I'll venture out again and guess Canadian National.  IIRC it wasn't built to be a transcontinental road but was cobbled together by the Canadian gov't from eastern and western segments, and some regionals.  Also consider that Halifax to Vancouver is a lot more distance than NYC to LA or San Francisco.

Today's CP does not have any lines east of Montreal; it still calls itself a transcon. because Montreal is a port.  But it was deliberately created by private enterprise to be a transcon.  I can't recall if it once had routes to Halifax or St. Johns, but I remember CP used to run a passenger train thru the empty northern third of Maine, enroute from some Maritime origin to, I believe, Montreal.  But that's a long time ago.  

  

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:49 PM
 nanaimo73 wrote:
Just one note, since this is a "Railroad History Quiz Game", I'm guessing your question applies before a certain year. Could you add something like before 1980, or 1990, for example ?
Hmmm....I'm not sure I understand your question, but let's say pre 1995, before the BN/SF merger, although I'm not sure that would neccesarily change the answer.

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:43 PM
Just one note, since this is a "Railroad History Quiz Game", I'm guessing your question applies before a certain year. Could you add something like before 1980, or 1990, for example ?
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:29 PM

     What railroad came the closest to becoming a true transcontinental railroad?  I'm looking for the railroad that had the most route miles extending between the Atlantic and Pacific ocean,on a trancontinental basis. (Clue: It could be an eastern or western railroad, as long as it was part of a transcontinental route.) To clarify, this is a North American railroad, so the one in Panama doesn't count.

note to Dale:  Hold back a bit.Wink [;)]

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:50 PM
I don't have a question. Anyone else ?
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:31 PM
     Who's up?  Dale?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:27 PM
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Murphy-  al refuses to do any research, so you really can't expect much.  Whistling [:-^]  Go easy on him.  

  I'll give Al the benefit of the doubt, as he seems to be a nice guy.  And, because I did the exact same thing-see my post above at 5:01.

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Posted by Railway Man on Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:13 PM
Aha! Close enough.

The railroad was actually the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway (1881-1889), reorganized as the Rio Grande Western Railway (1889-1908), and merged with the Denver & Rio Grande Railway to form the Denver & Rio Grande Railroad Company (Consolidated) in 1908. The last spike was driven on March 30, 1883, at a location called Desert Switch, Utah.

At some later date the Utah lines were remileposted to become consecutive westward from Denver to Ogden, Utah.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:26 PM
 Railway Man wrote:

 Murphy Siding wrote:
     D&RGW?

You're now in the vicinity.

Rio Grande & Western?  I'm thinking of the line that built east from Salt Lake City, and was merged by Rio Grande.

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Posted by Railway Man on Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:36 PM

 Murphy Siding wrote:
     D&RGW?

You're now in the vicinity.

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Posted by Zwingle on Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:24 AM
 Murphy Siding wrote:
 al-in-chgo wrote:
 Railway Man wrote:

The U.S. controlled the Panama Canal Zone from 1903 to 1979; the railway was completed in 1855.  While it is true that the Panama Railway connects one ocean to the other, the term "transcontinental railroad" in North American railroading designates a railroad or route connecting a Mississippi or Missouri River gateway with the Pacific Coast, or across Canada.  It's a very old term.

Dale, you came up with number 6 with the SP&S.  Now for number 7.  As a hint, think about each of the trancontinental railroads, list the major components that created them, and you'll discover another one of them that has two halves, separate ownership, different name, that met more or less in the middle, with one of those halves building west to east.  Another hint, that probably won't be helpful, is that this line lost its west-to-east mileposts a long time ago.

RWM

(Above emphasis mine) 

               Ummm, how about Canadian National???  It was certainly a melange of disparate routes that didn't come together as a "Crown Corporation" (gov't-owned) until WWI. 

 

See note about 6 posts above, at 4:59.

 

Murphy-  al refuses to do any research, so you really can't expect much.  Whistling [:-^]  Go easy on him.  

One minor correction above:  The U.S. controlled the Panama Canal Zone until December 31, 1999.  President Carter signed the order in 1979.  I remember this well.  It wasn't exactly a jewel in Carter's crown, since he succumbed to Panamanian extortion.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:31 PM
 al-in-chgo wrote:
 Railway Man wrote:

The U.S. controlled the Panama Canal Zone from 1903 to 1979; the railway was completed in 1855.  While it is true that the Panama Railway connects one ocean to the other, the term "transcontinental railroad" in North American railroading designates a railroad or route connecting a Mississippi or Missouri River gateway with the Pacific Coast, or across Canada.  It's a very old term.

Dale, you came up with number 6 with the SP&S.  Now for number 7.  As a hint, think about each of the trancontinental railroads, list the major components that created them, and you'll discover another one of them that has two halves, separate ownership, different name, that met more or less in the middle, with one of those halves building west to east.  Another hint, that probably won't be helpful, is that this line lost its west-to-east mileposts a long time ago.

RWM

(Above emphasis mine) 

               Ummm, how about Canadian National???  It was certainly a melange of disparate routes that didn't come together as a "Crown Corporation" (gov't-owned) until WWI. 

 

See note about 6 posts above, at 4:59.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:20 PM
 Railway Man wrote:

The U.S. controlled the Panama Canal Zone from 1903 to 1979; the railway was completed in 1855.  While it is true that the Panama Railway connects one ocean to the other, the term "transcontinental railroad" in North American railroading designates a railroad or route connecting a Mississippi or Missouri River gateway with the Pacific Coast, or across Canada.  It's a very old term.

Dale, you came up with number 6 with the SP&S.  Now for number 7.  As a hint, think about each of the trancontinental railroads, list the major components that created them, and you'll discover another one of them that has two halves, separate ownership, different name, that met more or less in the middle, with one of those halves building west to east.  Another hint, that probably won't be helpful, is that this line lost its west-to-east mileposts a long time ago.

RWM

(Above emphasis mine) 

               Ummm, how about Canadian National???  It was certainly a melange of disparate routes that didn't come together as a "Crown Corporation" (gov't-owned) until WWI. 

 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:16 PM
     D&RGW?

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